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Alpharius would get his taste smacked out of his mouth if malcador found out through the warp that his son went against his other father. I could never see Alpharius being disloyal after being raised by malcador and big E personally, along with a competitive rivalry with his older brother Valdor. Also remember the great name swap.

Don’t forget Alpharius hiding in plain sight for the last ten thousand years. He’s been sitting on the golden Throne dressed up as a spooky skeleton! Gotta give dad time to build a secret force after all!

I love how the new Alpha Legion book, Harrowmaster, basically confirms that with how secretive and confusing the 20th are, that in the modern setting they are exactly as confused about the Alpha Legion as the fans are

I found this on one video of Alpha Legion: Both Alpharius and Omegon only pretended to believe the cabal. They actually planned to sabotage the Traitors from within. The thing is, they both made this decision separately, and neither of them knew the other was pretending. The Alpha Legions' secretive and scheming nature had begun to work against it. Even if they had been honest with each other, they wouldn't have believed each other. But they both found ways to discretely help the Loyalists. Alpharius launched an early attack against Terra before the rest of the Traitor Legions arrived, which helped Dorn identify and fix all the planet's weak points. Omegon was sent to recruit Jaghatai Khan to the traitors, but instead provoked a fight with the White Scars so that Jaghatai would go off on his own to find his own answers. And when Alpharius and Dorn fought, Alpharius outright offered to throw the match and help Dorn achieve victory, but Dorn just ignored him and killed him.

When Omegon makes his return (probably the last one to do so) i hope he reforms the loyalist Alpha members into the Omega Legion.

Absolutely love Omegon out of the two twins his agents were the best imo “What does your Primarch expect from you?” “Everything”…

It was Omegon who was living as Alpharius after being “discovered” and was pro Cabal and died at Rogal’s hands, leaving the real Alpharius who is secretly a loyalist to play 4D chess with his legion. My sons are weird sometimes.

Alpharius was the first primarch either found or was never lost. He was the only Primarch that was pure and raised by The Emperor and Malcador.

What if Alpharius/Omegon was/is an ascended primarch like Corvus Corax? When every Alpha Legion member claims to be Alpharius, what if that was true? He having some sorta of ability to hop from one body to another, so really is every member and not at the same time.

Ah yeah, the Schrödinger's Loyalty Legion.

The Harrowmaster book was great at exploring the diverse factions inside the Hydra and why serving the Alpha Legion is the best pick for regular humans among all the legions.

After reading Praetorian of Dorn and the Alpharius novel, I feel like there are hints that the Alpharius found on Terra, and the Omegon found during the Rangdan Xenocides, swapped names after meeting each other. Some of the evidence to reach this conclusion involves the fact that in the Alpharius novel, Omegon was found with and used the Pale Spear, despite Alpharius himself usually being depicted as wielding this spear. Also, in the Horus Heresy book The Primarchs, in the novella The Serpent Beneath, "Omegon" inexplicably regards his own oddly private, completely unmarked suit of armor, which to me seems like a telling memento or reminder of the Ghost Legion (the Alpha Legion before they found Omegon). The more deceptive or Imperium-friendly acts usually attributed to Omegon seem to be more in line with how Alpharius claims he was taught on Terra in the Alpharius novel (taught how to fool others' senses of their perception of him, supposedly founded the blood games, etc.). In contrast, Alpharius outside of this novel seems more callous of human life, as well as more direct and confrontational, blowing up an actual settlement in the previously mentioned The Serpent Beneath novella, and actually coming to blows with Dorn and seemingly losing his cool; this behavior seems more in line with the Omegon from the Alpharius novel, who would not have received Malcador's training and is most likely the primarch who assaulted Horus' flagship. As confusing as this probably is, I think there's quite a bit of evidence to suggest they simply swapped their names after finding each other. This would mean that the "true" Alpharius, the one found on Terra, is the one still alive, under the guise of being Omegon. When it comes to the Alpha Legion, at least there's always more fuel to put on the speculation fire.

People say they are loyalist because it's confirmed in the book "The End and the Death"

I hope Leutin09 does a dedicated video on the Alpha Legion. With all his theorizing and scientific explaining it will be 10 hours long.

There was also a moment where a squad of guardsmen were fighting off a swarm of tyranids, but Alpha Legionnaires saved them at the last minute.

A great war rages in the shadows and dark alleys and forgotten sectors of the galaxy. A war of spys.

I recommend a video about the Remembrancers during the latter part of the Great Crusade. About their duties and role as the ordinary human POV characters in the Horus Heresy novels. Including a focus on Ignace Karkasy, Mersadie Oliton and Euphrati Keeler with the XVI Legion.

Superb video as always @majorkill. Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc?

Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would have reacted to being in Guillimans situation as imperial regent would be pretty cool ngl

I genuinely think that the Alpha legion are a mix of everything. There are full blown chaos Alpha legion, mixed bag who are only "loyal" because they're anti-chaos but don't necessarily go and help the imperium unless it benefits their own fight against chaos, and then straight up "LOL at Raven Guard being the sneaky guys" loyal from the shadows Alpha legion

I believe that the one who killed Dorn was Omegon and Alpharius is following Malcador's orders before dying, acting loyally from the shadows while pretending to be traitors in order to carry out acts in favor of the emperor that the empire itself would classify as treason or heresy. Most alpha legionaries don't know why they fight, but the warband that keeps doing the "I am Alpharius" thing are actually led by Alpharius himself and when necessary the alpha legion will sacrifice its traitor warbands and They will unite under the command of Alpharius in favor of the emperor in the last and great battle against chaos

I think the Alpha Legion sees themselves as the necessary evil to the imperium to keep them engaged with and aware of the chaos. They seem to act as a "teach em the hard way or they won't learn it" type of training force

I’d really like to believe that the Alpha Legion low key aids the Lamenters out of sheer empathy. Not like total victory aid, more like “Almost all of them didn’t die” kinda aid. Even clearing their paths just enough for them to succeed in their missions.

In the Alpharius book Alpharius took up the role of Omegon, also why would Omegon be the loyal one? He has spent less time with the Emperor and Malcador and would not have a reason to be loyal to them so there's a far larger chance that Omegon was the traitor and Alpharius was the loyalist.

Another fun fact as to why they are broken and do not trust each other is that they have no living horus heresy veteran. The alpha legion did not travel to the eye of terror, they stayed in real space. They are very similar to the loyal chapters in that they have lost most of their legion knowledge and the only unifying goal they have is the destruction of the Imperium. They don't really know why their ancestors joined the traitor legions but they are still following their commands

Wait, I thought the twist was that Alpharius was Omegon and a Traitor, and Omegon was really Alpharius who switched places with him and was a Loyalist.

I've got one. What if the Primarchs where found in the order of their creation. So the Lion was first and Horus was nearly last. I think that could change quite a bit, don't you think?

i think the code thing is the best way to describe it. some are loyal, some arent, for various reasons

I still think Omegon was the traitor, and it was Omegon who died on Pluto's moon. I think he just hijacked the Alpharius Identity because nobody knew about Omegon and he needed legion loyalty. Why would the first found primarch personally raised by Malcador ever betray the Imperium. Going along and being a double agent is the very type of thing Malcador would've taught him, not to mention that was the whole purpose of the Alpha legion to begin with. But, Malcador didn't raise Omegon. Also the weird alien artifact spear was Omegons weapon he found on whatever crazy ass alien world he landed on. The Alpharius that died was wielding that spear. Alpharius being the first found also would've known all his brothers the best albeit from a distance and would've known Dorn wouldn't entertain a supposed traitor. Omegon however likely didn't have that knowledge. I don't even think Omegon was necessarily a traitor, he just didn't play the same game as Alpharius and Malcador. I personally am all for Alpharius showing up out of nowhere saving the Imperium G-man losing his mind only to be psychically backhanded by the Emperor and told that's his most loyal son and the only one that did what he was told.😅

I swear major is like a 6 cylinder revolver. Popping off excellent video after video and it's not even Christmas yet

I've just started reading Harrowmaster and it has been fun so far. The Alpha Legion I have seen so far have been Chaos aligned at least. My take is they are like the Dark Angel Fallen some are Imperial, some are Independent, some are Chaos. Though Alpha Legion Independent and Chaos are actually more on the same side it is just how their Warbands will operate.

Would like to see another day in the life of Majorkill video. Been two years since

I prefer the theory that Alpharius is the loyalist twin. Better sounding name with more recognition, supposedly raised on Terra, had all that backstory with Big E, Malcador and Valdor, etc.

Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.

Majorkill you should do a video on the life of a chaos cultists

Wonder what the loyalist primarchs would do once they found out about Omegon. Would they pummel and execute him or would they give the little brother a hug?

Can we get a video about each primarch reaction to the emperor being put on the Golden Throne after the Heresy ?

Lore on the Imperial Navy, high lords, mutants, and Ecclesiarchy please

Lets not forget about the Alpha Legionnaire that has been spotted working with Eisenhorn.

I always feel like when people talk about the Alpha Legion, Head of the Hydra is completely ignored. I mean yes, all records lie, but who tells us the same doesn't go for any other books. The main theme I took away from Head of the Hydra however was: Alpharious was always aware that, all things considered, he as a person is not important. That Omegon isn't important. The only thing that matters is which options they set up and ultimately chose to execute. Especially Alpharious lived his whole live in the shadows, as a non-existent person. The mathematical unknown nobody could calculate with. Always bordering with his actions near heresy, since the duty that was imposed on him by Malcador was, to protect humanity. Whatever the cost! Ironically, this made him in my opinion the most unlikely to fell to chaos. He had just one obligation, and if this meant to seemingly betray humanity, to be able to protect it more effectly, so be it. Nobody had liked him anyway, really. It was the perfect cover. Because, of course even Alpharius nor Omegon could predict who would come out on top ulitmately. The only thing they knew for certain was, that they had to prevent both prophecies of the cabaal from happening, because both would mean the end for humanity. The problem regarding the death of one of them was, I think, that they realized that fighting a primarch wasn't something they could impose on anyone else. And so, one has to die so the other one can continue the work. Setting cogs in motion, placing small seeds so they may be reaped when time is due. And when the Arch enemy tries it's final blow, they will probably be there. Aside from all the Lore-Discussion, we also should not forget that the Alpha Legion is basically a perfect plot device for GW. All the trash talk aside, with them dispersing their forces basically on any possible outcome, they made sure whatever happens, they'll come out on top. And with some people claming that GW has written the universe into a corner, I can see them picking the Alpha Legion as a literal deus ex machina to resolve that. Hell, they could just one day appear with a million trained and fitted space marines they created themselves with the untainted gene seed, crushing the tyranid invasion short of terra or something as far as potential storytelling is concerned. Wether this is disiarable or not is a whole different story.

Omegon meeting the lion or the autist and how that would effect current setting would be awesome.

Absolutely love the language and presentation haha keep doing what you're doing!

There should be a tally of every time the dark angels did something heretical VS every time the alpha legion did something loyal.

Can we get a vid on what exactly gene flaws are? Like the red thirst and black rage are the biggest examples I know but does each legion have some flaw they’re prone to?

Majorkill, are you familiar with Mass Effect? Because I’m wondering who would in an all out war between the Tyranids and the Reapers.

Video 50 of asking ‘What if Nykona Sharrowkyn killed Fulgrim’

This is actually a great video idea. Nice

They say the Thousand Sons are dedicated to Tzeentch, but the real twist is that Tzeentch is dedicated to the Alpha Legion.

Man they have the drippiest armor

Awesome video Fulgrim

Omegon is definitely chillin like a villain. They might be the most confused astartes in the galaxy. But they are super fuckin badass in their execution of misguided actions.Im always a sucker for alpa legion content. One of my top factions

Another wonderful installment

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Live from the black library does a really good job talking about this too

I think the Alpha Legion is like the Fallen in terms of loyalty. Because the Fallen didnt have a lot of answers when they were cast into the warp and had to decide for themselves what to do, and the Alpha Legions secretive nature meant they were in the same boat.

I love that tabletop wise you can feasibly run alpha legion as loyalist or traitor, lore wise they can access equipment from both tactics from both and their objectives could align with either

A video of the top ten community made wholesome moments would be great

hey Majorkill. I was curious if in the future there would be a video about the modern Eldar, and the necrons current relationship. It would be interesting to know the modern day Eldar perspective on the returning necrons. And the current necron thoughts on the now dying Eldar. Also it would be cool to hear about some battles between the two races in modern 40 k.

Majorkill with the Major upload schedule 🫡

Space Marines motto, "Do what's right". Alpha Legion motto, "Do what's right for you".

I'm always on the side that Omegon was the one that died to Dorn. Alpharius wearing unique battle plate and going on to 1v1 an opponent just isn't his MO. He takes to the field personally to ensure a plan or objective is met, but that's usually with him hiding who he is really. There's also the fact for his upbringing he was already in command of his legion, and controlling it from the shadows. Then there's Omegon who was raised alone on some planet and likes to wield unique battle plate and weapons. Basically Alpharius is more of the type to keep his direct involvement to minimum while Omegon would one to confront someone directly. In the Alpharius book we even end off with Alpharius arranging for Omegon to meet Horus to mark the official return of the 20th Primarch. Hence why I think Omegon was the one to charge dick first into Dorn only to have it sawn off. One theory that I've been brewing is that Alpharius was still the one to be traitor while Omegon loyalist, however Omegon's death/actions made Alpharius realize that the cabal's prediction is no longer valid and turned back loyalist.

Still think A/Os unique primarch ability is to inhabit multiple bodies. Explaining his one soul being split between two bodies, and the legion claiming to all be Alpharious.

@Majorkill I was wondering for the past few days whether Orks being corrupted by chaos is still canon or not?

I'm starting to see that the Alpha Legion is an entire legion of The Fallen.

Glad we've got to the bottom of this difficult question!

These videos are making alpha legion my favorite legion as time goes on

Do a video on the chief librarian from each legion.

My impression on the alpha legion was some groups were given missions to help the loyalists and that's what they went with and the others who went on traitor missions became CSM's. Could explain why traitor legionnaires don't think there are any loyalists left in the legion?

Alpharius: Brother, I forgot whose side are we on.

I got a conspiracy theory that Cawl's Primaris project was derived ultimately from the Raptor project that the Alpha Legion stole. They also coulda had a hand in keeping the project unknown until the big reveal

Love it baby. another day, another *asmr video

Excellent!

Video idea What would’ve Perturabo do with Imperial city defenses, if he had been put to build it over Dorn.

My personal head cannon these days is that Rogal Dorn fought and killed Omegon, who was pretending to be Alpharius. Omegon who was in fact Alpharius, didn't fight and got killed by Guilliman. He is still around and secretly is still a loyalist who occasionally helps the Imperium in the most Alpha Legion way possible. The Alpha Legion meanwhile has largely fractured with some elements being loyalist who still take directions from Alpharius. Meanwhile the traitor elements of the legion, occasionally also take directions from Alpharius who plays the game and sacrifices lesser Imperial holdings to keep up appearances and enable the loyalist Alpha Legion to keep secretly helping the Imperium. I feel this way because Alpharius was the only Primarch actually raised by the Emperor and Malcador. And the line of thinking that Alpharius/Omegon displays, is arguably what you would get if you get raised by mainly Malcador. It also fits with all the Primarchs being very heavily influenced by their upbringing. In general they all seem to have been designed by the Emperor to be very impressionable on top of certain traits being designed into their genetics. A bit like taking the nature vs. nurture debate in humans, but taking both elements to the extreme. Then again, Primarchs are extreme "human" beings in all regards. Not just their physique or abilities, but also they way they function. They are humans, but where as most individual humans occupy a small part of the entire spectrum of what defines humanity, the individual Primarchs, tend to cover a very broad spectrum of human emotions, thinking patterns and other elements indeed. It quite frankly also clever writing which makes Primarchs, potentially such interesting characters.

Keep the good shit up compadre

Imperium: Are you loyal or a traitor? Alphareus (Or maybe Omegon): *Well yes, but actually no.*

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Yay you did it thank you. Now I can still confused.

Great video! To the alpha legion on vraks, I personally think they don't intervention to help the imperium, but more for their own to heat it up. When the imperium sends Astartes and titans, the whole battle gets more and more hectic and a lot of chaos warbands and traitor titans showing up on vraks as result. And it wasn't far away from being clear that the imperium will win this battle. I personally think the alpha legion did this, to weaken booth sides and cover some 9f their secret missions

Wasn't that Alpha Legion base a Necron construct?

Agreed, Omegon is blatantly alive, and the legions split between fallen warbands that followed alpharius and ultimately ended up sucking on the chaos tit and those who stood with omegon and are still loyal

You know how the Custodes need field experience? Know how nobody can ever know that they ever leave the Emperor's side? Voila, Alpha Legion. Alpharius is standing guard right next to the Golden Throne, perhaps juckling to himself from time to time.

I never played Warhammer never owend any figures never even read a Warhammer book but this Guy makes me a fan of it 😂he talks about Warhammer but he makes it realy fkn funny to watch he puts in a cheeky joke once and a while this channel has realy grown on me thé last couple of weeks

How about a video detailing what the galaxy would look like if The Emperor never existed

They are my favorite traitor legion, but also my favorite loyalist legion. Also story about covert ALs shooting each other was comedic-gold.

If humanity died out, wouldn't Slaanesh still feed on the Eldar? Was the Cabal a tool of Tzeentch?

Isn't it fun getting confused by our shenanigans

0:45 except financially. There's my obligatory plastic crack joke

"I'm a spy, Leela, that means even I don't know what side I'm on. That's rather silly That's politics"- Co-Ordinator Narvin- Gallifrey

"Alpharius was arrogant and kind of stupid" * *sniff* * Finally I found a primarch to empathize with.

on the less "meme" part, aren't they some warband that are actualy loyalists but infiltrated in the traitors, basically the one working for/knowing about Omegon while other are just pure traitors ?

I thought the Alpha Legion's war cry was confused screaming. You think we'll hear about that mini Astronomicon person they took every again? Day 319 of requesting a Commissar Yarrick Major Mini pls and thank you.

The one sin control, Omegon to be specific, is probally trying to help the imperium form the shadows, like section 31, without having to deal with thh Administratum and the fucked up rules that the imperium has now. More flexibility

The Third Path. Alpharius 2nd and Omegon 1st chose a third option to the Cabal's two choices, Alpharius 2nd aiding Horus, and Omegon 1st aiding the Imperium. Alpharius 2nd tried to convince Dorn of his cause, something Omegon 1st, formerly Alpharius, would have known better than to try with Dorn. Ingo Peck wasn't just operating under loyal orders, he was tasked with waking up a unit of stasised Alpha Legionairs under the Imperial Palace and giving them the loyalty code word, then leading them against the traitors. Shout out to Live From The Black Library for putting all this together.

Another day saver as usual

Plot twist : The true Alpha Legion primarch is Jagathai, because even Big E had no idea which side he will take, and was surprised that he chose the Loyalists Jaghatai best primarch... change my mind

Alpha legion out there doing just enough to convince whoever the winning side is that they were with them the whole time😂

You need to read Renegades: Harrowmaster. For firstly its a great book but it also realy elps understanding the mindest inside the alpha legion warbands

It seems obvious to me what the Alpha Legion did with the Special Astartes Gene Juice, they gave it to belisarius cawl