Everything I know about HDR Gaming on Win11. Summary with tricks and tips. 

The settings I show on this video are just examples to help generalize for all TVs and monitors, and not the settings I would use for that specific game. It might be better, for example, to just set Mastering Peak Maxcll 2000 to tone map the 2000 Nits Maxcll this game has when maxing out the peak brightness slider in game to then use Dynamic tone mapping for OLED Motion Pro high on the LG C1.

As always, thank you for your time.

Love the channel name. One of the saddest days of my life was when my Panasonic g25 died. Tried replacing boards but couldn't revive it. Now I mostly play on my projector which is about 400 nits hdr brightness so looking forward to going through your channel and learning how to maximize its performance. HDR is such a mess but I'll trust a fellow plasma afficionado

yess been waiting for this video man! so glad i watched your videos and took the time to learn reshade, its utterly transformed my gaming experience. im currently playing through dragon quest 11 s with some upscaling mods, and the lilium reshade tools you showcased in the last vid, and its been absolutely beautiful.

This is the video we've been waiting for👍

I just bought Evnia 34" QDOLED and I am getting too deep in HDR rabbit hole 😭😭 Your videos and your knowledge are starting to be my refuge right now. Thank you!! 😭😭

also, a few things id like to add, you kinda touched on it in the video, but the inverse tonemapping, in my opinion, often looks just as good if not better than even native hdr, as hdr10 has some quirks and issues with flickering,shimmering, and other weird little things inherent to hdr10. using the scrgb hdr is a great way in literally any game (that it works in) to ENSURE that you will get correctly tonemapped, accurate, and beautiful true HDR. you may have to use the black floor fix for certain games, and the color depth and space might not be quite as.... "saturated" as hdr, but imo, it actually looks more natural and "true to artists intent" or whatever, which is especially important and awesome for games that DONT support native hdr, as using the reverse tonemapping essentially is simply expanding the overall brightness over the selected peak brightness, depending on which form of tonemapping you pick, and can really bring sdr games to life. sdr on w oleds can be pretty dark, so like mr plasma tv says, there really is no situation for pc gaming in which you should EVER be using sdr, aside from maybe browsing and other non game applications. you can, of course, still use the regular tonemapping, but just from what ive messed around with, the inverse tonemapping is not only much easier and more universal, it also looks amazing. its a no brainer for me. the only time ill probly ever use something else is if the inverse tonemapping doesnt work for the game. seriously, i think its that good. 1 recommendation tho is to make the input white point and the setting below it 1/10th of the peak nits. so for example, on an lg c1, at peak nits of 800 with hgig, i find that setting the input white point and setting below it to 80 nits to be nearly perfect. and setting the gamut expansion to 1.05 makes the colors even more "accurate to intent" without losing any of that hdr saturation and depth. really lilium and the people working on reshade should be hired by windows to just make this stuff proprietary software on all windows machines at this point, thats how good and consistent it is.

Thanks for the great video! ❤️

MajorPainTheCactus AutoHDR has a settings addon for Reshade that comes with the download. You can set max luminescence and white-point directly so you don't always need the Lilium tonemapper.

love your content, so pure

This info helped me out a lot brother thanks

What are some games that have "perfect" native HDR without external tweaking?

no SpecialK :c, best SDR to HDR solution we have available

Man please can you make a video about Everything that you know for consoles too. It would really help me and people who have console.

My biggest problem i face in games is clipping the white clipping is insane no matter its hdr or sdr i use nvidia filter to improve it by lower highlights & exposure in brightness option as i am on win10 and nvidia app doesn't show rtx hdr

Thank you for your awesome work! I've a question: when you max out the peak brightness slider in the game then game tone mapping is off?

Hi Ariel, thanks for another great video. I don't know if it's been answered in another video but I've got a question regarding AutoHDR in Win11. If I wanted to use BFI with AutoHDR on an LG C1, what would your recommended settings be?

using lilium's hdr shaders on my lg 27gp850 (i know it's a fake hdr due to hdr400 cert and no local dimming) on monster hunter world and the game looks amazing compared to it's native hdr implementation, and i'm able to achieve 0 minCLL, which looks very good on the ips low contrast panel because i can really push the blacks as down as my panel can

Yo. Did you know that you can inverse tonemap any sdr video into hdr in mpv player ? (one of the best player foundations there is.. many other players use this as a reference point..) It has exactly the same effect as cactus reshade + liliums inverse tonemap on games, but its on your local movies. Interested ? Setup takes like 2 minutes, and requires no reshade.

Correct me if I'm wrong, basically if a game doesn't have HDR, you have to do the sdr/hdr trick which consists by selecting the icc 400 profile from github, maxing the sdr/hdr slider, selecting 540 cll on the service tv menu and that's it? No need for lilium tonemapping or anything else? Sorry for bothering you but I'm writing down all these settings for every situation. Thank you so much for what you are doing bud!

I tried gamma 2.2hdr on cyberpunk yesterday. It has perfect blacks with these gamma settings. No need for reshade or anything.

Hey what you recommend for window calibration max nits for aw3423dw? Set to 930 or 1060? My aw3423dw in HDR 1000 mode is capable of producing 1060 nits, but when i calibrated using windows 11 calibration tool, as soon as I reach 930, thats when the grey bars disappear and i have a fully white picture, but i set it to 1060 anyway since thats what the display is capable of, is this correct? or should i set to 930?

I'm confused why you set MaxCLL of 1000nits if your TV can't reproduce higher than 800.

Plasma! I found new thing. In Ghost of tsuhima the details in bright objects clip . For example there is sun , its shines the ocean and there are ships BUT the sun is so clipping that you cant see ship . When i change mastering peak and max cll to 1000 the sun clips and you cant see anything. When i set 4000 nits with dtm off the detail comes back and you can see the ship . When i set 10000 nits the detail comes again but in some cases 10000 nits juts overclips the detail. But when i set 10000 nits with dtm the sun is not clipping much but when i switch to dtm off it becomes like dull , with dtm on its bright and punchy

What value should i choose for Mastering Peak and MaxCLL on a LG G3 65'? Also your videos help me to discover new ways to improve HDR, thanks a lot👍

Same principle and methodology as using vst plugins in audio while using shaders.

Amazing man thank u! What do u think of A95L 77” is it the best tv on the market without mentioning the bit over price.. for movies, tv shows & ps5 pro when release, im a sports guy but i heard it dim down! So idk, i will be buying A G4 83” for the living room for overall using! If recommended by then by the proffesions, but for now i will be getting A95L for my room will i lose any black level on a dark room? i guess i will be getting in for my 15 ft sofa to wall room i will bring the sofa 2-3 ft closer and put the the tv on sonoc wall mount and pulled it out some ft, ur thought? And ur thought on the tv overall? Was going g3>g3 but i changed my mind on the last weeks. Im sorry for the long tittle!

How to be able to determine if native HDR in a game is horrible like in acvalhalla and rdr2 compared to other games? Do you turn HDR in game > calibrate it > then look at highlights and dark corners or are we talking brightness is too dim or its not as colorful or something else maybe?

So when you first launch a game and enable native HDR, the first thing you do is lilium analysis + black floor fix to fix blackfloor with default in game hdr settings then once black floor is fixed, then you adjust the peak in game, saturation and brightness?

Can you somehow test if resade hdr trick works with win10 or not because my games are just crashing with major's autohdr addon

If I'm using auto HDR with the 800 nits icc srgb to gamma 2.2 profile, should my sdr slider also be set to something or it doesn't matter?

What is the best hdr settings for guardians of the galaxy with dtm off or hgig?

Plasma may I ask when you choose lilium's inverse tone mapping over just regular tone mapping? Cause I've noticed for some games the inverse tone mapping makes the colours go wrong

Just an overall advice I'm guessing monitor for gaming you would recommend the LG C1 can I ask what type of PC you would then recommend? Would a 3090 be good enough or even 4060? Or has to be 4070ti+. Ram of course 32gb or more. What processor though? Would an I5 be okay or must be i7 or i9 or is Amd fine like Ryzen 5 or again should it be Ryzen 7 or 9? Thank you for helping

How do you get 2000 nits on an lg c1 oiled. Doesn’t it only go up to 800? Did you adjust something in the service menu or am I missing something?

Plasma can you make the same video for console users, i am sure not only me would be happy but every guy that has ps5 or xbox

So, just to confirm, is Dlyanraga's ICC HDR profile only to be used when opting for Win 11 Auto HDR? If I'm using Reshade with inverse tone mapping and HGiG enabled on my LG C2 on a game without native HDR support, would I need to disable Dlyanraga's ICC profile? Additionally, if I'm using Reshade, should I use any HDR color profile at all?

what about using "Use legacy display ICC colour management" per app? What does it do with HDR?

Hello please help. How to turn of oled motion pro in game optimaser. Its always of.thanks

Since some recent windows-update my alienware aw3423dwf is reporting 240 NITS instead of 1000 NITS in the advanced display settings. Is that just an wrongly displayed value, or an actual problem?

This looks really interesting, but I don't know if it's worth checking on my display, gigabyte M27q HDR400 it's not the best lol.

The c1 has a peak brightness of 800 nits so wouldnt you want the max cll to be 800? Wouldn't anything above 800 cause clipping .

What's the best option for Resident evil games? The cactus addon doesn't work for it.

Appreciate your content man thank you for sharing everything. Any chance that you would make a step by step noob friendly guide on how to download reshade, lilium reshade etc and how to use it? I know that you made several videos already but simple step by step vid would be great for newbies like me 😂, again thank you for the content man 👍🏻

My problem is I get headache and dry eyes from it. No problem with SDR, no problem with being out on a super sunny day, and I've tried having good bias lightning etc. Obviously I'm oversensitive but I think there's something wrong with how HDR works in general on most TV's. It's like the whole panel is pushing out a ridiculous amount of light even behind objects that aren't suppose to be a light source, like a wall or the ground. Even if it doesn't always look that way, I can surely feel it, if that make sense. Anyways, I will continue tweaking cause I really like the concept of a more dynamic image, and you're doing a great job explaining the details.

Is there any way to fix clipping in sdr i have clipping on most of the games even on sdr

Thank you a lot Plasma , so in the summary. I should i set in secret menu 4000 nits mastering peak and max cll AND in games i should set if available 4000 nits or just the max that is available like in some games the hdr max slider is till 1500 nits while still having set 4000 nits in secret menu . Also the games that support hdr system calibration i should set 4000 nits which is 25 clicks in ps5 hdr menu. Right?

Same good old advice. Use your eyes. For audio. Use your ears 😁

Plasma i found new thing! Cinema , just cinema not cinema home is better with dtm but not because of the overall brightness but because its gives brightness to lamps sun and so on without raising shadows and the picture brightness is great. So dark scenes are dark and very bright scenes are even brighter then in game optimiser. I tried your recommendation of mastering peak . For example in immortal fenyx i settled 4000 nits in game and in secret menu 1113111 , in ghost of thsushima i set 1000 nits and on gta v 2000 nits in secret menu 1500 nits in game. I am doing everything thing correctly or am i missing something ? You know better so i thought better to ask you because you are more experienced then me. Btw i tried hgig and dtm off I really tried it but i cant use it because during the day its very dark , too dark but during night time its a tiny bit better. After when i switch to game optimiser dtm with the same settings the shadows of the game become more visible but not immediately, like after time. What is your opinion Plasma and what is your recommendation as always. Thanks 💪🏻🙏🏻 ps: Plasma please check the replies section because when u answer me i reply some of my questions.

Plasma ca explain me in depth about mastering peak setting. I want to set and forget. Should it be 2000 nits or 1000 nits ? In some games the max hdr slider is even to 10000 nits should i then put in secret menu 10000 nits or what ? Or how ? Can u explain me please

Did you find any other solution for RDR2 other than auto-hdr? Would love to find a Native hdr solution...

I wanted to use the lilium shaders on Elden Ring, but when I run the game most of them say error. Not sure why, considering I am using the newest reshade (6.0) and they are included with the program now.

Bro majorpaincactus autohdr addon crashes my game is it because im on win 10?

Screw this PC hdr bs, I'll just use the Xbox series x instead and it will work?

So plasma i should max hdr slider in all games to max and set in lg secret menu 1000 nits in mastering peak and max cll?

Is Win 11 any better for HDR than Win 10?

How would you setup MajorPainTheCactus and BFI please?

Horizon Zero Dawn just crashes with Major Cactus HDR Add-On unfortunately. Native HDR is trash and Special K looks exactly the same like native for some reason. Is there really no way to fix hdr in this game?

Plasma why shouldn’t i use 4000 nits for system calibration games too ? Can you explain please 🙏🏻

So Plasma should i set 1000 nits in secret menu and max cll mastering peak or should i set 4000 nits?

hey plasma, if game has native HDR, why did you use ilium tone mapping? Is it okay to adjust in game slider to match maxcll with my display peak luminance and then use lilium hdr black floor fix and fix black floor? I am on PC with qdoled monitor but maybe for TVs you guys use lilium tone mapping?

So i should set 4000 nits in every game that has it like i did before?

Me acordé de vos hoy, te cuento lo q me pasó. Me quedé unos días en la casa de mis padres, me quedo en una habitación donde había una tele vieja pero me di cuenta q los colores y el movimiento eran realmente muy buenos. Les pregunto a mi padres si cambiaron ese tv y me dicen q estaba guardado. Lo colgaron hace poco en la pared. Y cuanto más lo miraba más me gustaba. Resultó ser un plasma Samsung BN63 06.... No tengo idea y no puedo encontrar mucha info. Pero la claridad de movimiento es increíble. Es 1080p. Los colores son increíbles. Sabes algo de este tv?

Hey, would running hdr all the time not burn in your splay faster than sdr? I run my s90c at 50/50 hdr brightness and 29 sdr brightness. I have just been running my Windows 11 pc with the stock auto hdr and calibration app at around 1350 nits.

does this cover windows 10

Alternate fix for washed out AutoHDR is to change the nvidia color output from full to limited. Seems to work ,but you have to return it to full when playing native HDR.

Where should the SDR HDR brightness Windows slider be if using MajorPainTheCactus please?

Plasma i recently downloaded Ghost of Tsushima should i set 4000 nits in secret menu in max cll and mastering peak and then calibrate ps5 hdr menu ? Or what?

Man i love your channel could you make videos a bit shorter? Or put timestamps?

I really can't play in HDR on my PC anymore after I adjusted the SDR image on my C2, the image is simply better than anything I've ever tried to do with HDR, everything is much more solid in SDR, here my settings for anyone who wants to test and compare Game optimizer (FPS) FTDA 0, BS 10, WS 10 Brightness 100 Contrast 100 Black level 50 Peak brightness High (ColourControl) Gama BT.1886 Depth colour 40 C. gama Native Sharpness 10 W. Balance W50 R 0, G -10, B -10

sdr is so dull man😂 Our eyes see in hdr in real life

why my comment got filtered?

If some people think 50% of Games have bad HDR, than HDR was a marketing Gag in the first Place. BlackFloor and ColorSpace DCiP3 is most important. HDR make the colors look different but not better i think. For good Dynamic Range only OLED is good. If people like 50% of hdr games than they should use a pesonal color filter, at the end HDR is nothing different. Additionally annoyimg is that JDR cranks the Monitor to 100% brightness,