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Did he really ask why a dragon was hoarding gold??? That's been an aspect of Anglo-Saxon mythology for hundreds of years since greed was their worst vice.
@@christianrapper.... It's because they're *Greedy*. Dragons are literally supposed to be so greedy that they value having the gold itself rather than having any desire to spend it. This is literally Dragons 101.
@@kgmaster9421 What do you mean "and"? "and" I watched this video, instead of cinema sins. "and" theres a more rewarding feeling after watching a story that relies on its viewer's understanding of the content, instead of one-liners and deceptive phrasing. Would you like a more thorough explanation?
You missed one. In Jeremy’s “why did this group run” “Why didn’t that group run” The first group were just pitchfork wielding peasants, and he says they should have fought Shrek, But the second group were fully armoured knights with halberds, basically, superheroes of the era, and he said they should have ran.
Not to mention, they were there to compete for the "privilege" (as Farquaad put it) to go rescue the princess from a fire-breathing dragon. They were prepared to go up against horrible monsters before Shrek even arrived.
@@jbcatz5 I'm pretty sure if one of they won and survived the dragon, the next step would be to kill farquard so yeah, Shrek _is_ the best warrior to send
Blue Blade The problem is whenever they’re actually trying to criticize something, they have no idea what the hell they’re talking about, and get it completely wrong. Because they’re stupid
"Why is the ogre scottish" is basically saying "This made up creature in a fantasy movie isn't american? Why not?? Why isn't everyone speaking in an american accent." Like as a Scottish man I'm actually pissed. Edit: This is officially the most controvertial comment I've made on youtube. Lmao. Never mention you aren't american online.
The love's true form thing is a sin as well, the reason she becomes an ogre permanently is because Shrek is her true love, she take's loves true form, Shrek is an ogre, loves true form is thus OGRE
Not to mention 1. Beauty is subjective to the person 2. Beauty isnt only lying in physical appearance. It's Fiona's confidence and acceptance for what she previously oppressed about herself that makes her both such a strong character for the time, AND what makes her beautiful.
@@pineapplefrostyfruits9225 woah woah woah Wait Are you telling me that Hollywood and the Media are LYING TO ME!!!?? That an Hourglass figure, Big Tits, Huge Ass, and a Plastic Face is the only way to be Beautiful??!!!!
Also, the curse SPECIFICALLY says "take love's true form". Shrek was her love. She took his form. Even if she turned into an ogre, if she fell in love with Donkey and kissed him, she would then turn into a donkey. *crunches chips* You padding the sin count bro?
Historically, the Best Man was supposed to be the best man with a sword so that if someone tried to kidnap your bride he could help protect her. Groomsmen were meant to help you kidnap your bride and Bridesmaids were there to act as decoys to protect the actual bride from being kidnapped...
I remember hearing about this but your comment gave more context to the tradition, the first time I heard about this it only said something about bride kidnapping and that's it.
I just wanna know what’s wrong with a character being Scottish? Like are we only allowed Willy from The Simpsons? What else would Shrek be? American? Because that’s pretty rude to think everyone in movies have to be like you isn’t it Jeremy?
Kerhs Duolingo, most villains in movies made in the United States tends to be English and not Scottish, and since Jeremy thinks that Farquad is the protagonist and Shrek is the antagonist; he thinks that the Shrek should be played by an English actor instead of a Scottish actor.
Kerhs Duolingo, I agree with you that villain being the story being played an English actor, and the hero being played by an American actor is bullshit, but Hollywood has been doing that since it ever first came into existence to now.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Where'd you get the idea that Jeremy thinks Farquad is the protagonist of this movie?? Seriously, I haven't watched the original CinemaSins video (that's what we have Th3Birdman for), did he actually say as much? Because if so, that might just be the worst take of his I've ever heard. And he's made a lot of bad takes.
I quit watching CinemaSins when I realized they were intentionally misrepresenting movies to provoke people into commenting to "correct" them as a way of gaming The Algorithm via engagement, because that's dishonest and I don't appreciate that. But I'm kinda glad they do it, because I'm consistently entertained watching you call them out on their BS.
@@philsharpe4315 Sorry friend, but you're mistaken. Their intentional misrepresentation of movies is obvious if you watch any of their videos about a movie you're familiar with. Or you could watch the video this comment is on, as Th3Birdman provides a helpful example.
@@ejigantor6634 bro, I just want to say, thanks for not shitting fire on people who might need it. It's good to have compassion. Not sarcastic either, just giving a genuine thanks
@@noriakikakyoin6983 that movie can go burn in hell alongside the other disappointing threequels of all time, Godfather III, Spider-Man 3, Jurassic Park III, Kung Fu Panda 3 and Five Nights At Freddy's 3
@@enderlove2794 i watched and got so bored with them repeating the same jokes. Now I much more like Cinemawins who actually seems to want to discuss the movie.
11:13 also because donkeys are indeed colourblind but they can’t only see red color, and the request was for a blue flower with red thorns so yeah picking any blue flower is a 50% success
"Falling in love with Eddie Murphy's Ass." I actually laughed out loud at that joke, my mom had to shush me because she was on a call! See, *this* is the difference between CinemaSins and Th3Birdman.
@@Th3Birdman Hell, they’re so cowardly they refused to their location gag in the infinity war video because of your parody video. Also, they ended up having to do that infamous “we will deep-fry your kebab” clip, just to pad the runtime.
10:55 the third film also addresses this: Her mom taught her how to fight before she was even locked away. Most likely to ward off any asshole who had intentions that weren't in line with breaking the curse.
Just wanna say thank you for that fact about Robin Hood. Him being French in this movie always bugged me because I knew him as an English character, but now knowing the context you gave it actually makes a lot of sense. Goes to show the difference research can make and I’ll definitely be more inclined to actually look things up now instead of just assuming something is wrong. It’s funny, but I don’t think I was respecting this channel enough until I was on Jeremy’s side and proven wrong. I was always entertained and loved your videos but now I see how they can be legitimately important to the RU-vid film criticism community. So, genuinely, thank you for what you’re doing
By the way most people in the middle ages actually could read, it's a common misconception. If we assume Shrek had parents they probably taught him to read.
Where did you get that that was a misconception? Even the nobles were illiterate more often than not in the high and central middle ages, and peasants or lowborns who could read were extremely rare (and I mean an absolutely hair-thin percentage). Mainly because books were extremely rare, and often reserved for the clergy, most of whom could indeed read. Why would any noble or peasant need to learn to read if they didn't had anything to read? News were delivered by criers, messages were memorized and recited by emissaries (letters were there, but not every noble knew how to write or read) and most shops had a sign with a shape or drawing that would allow you to identify the purpose of the store without any letter on it (like a ham, a drumstick and a chain of sausages making up the sign of a butchery)
@@jorgedeanoperez316 Why do you think books are required to read? All you need is someone who can read, some wet sand and a stick to teach someone. Hell, historically there are people who taught themselves how to read... Ever think that the 'no one knew how to read' nonsense has more to do with modern jokers being conditioned to think government controlled schooling is the only option to keep a person from being a drooling half-wit? ... The reason people would need/want to read is the same damn reason the written alphabet was put together in the first place, you know when there weren't any books, signs or anything to give people access to reading.
@@RenaldyCalixte Technically many of these stories never belonged to anyone except "the people ". The Brother's Grim published many of them -however - they merely compiled them from the stories that were being told by the people for generations. Plus public domain means you don't have to ask permission. That's the whole point of the 'public' part of it.
Public domain used to be available after 35 years of the product existing. Guess what company in the early 1900s changed that and continues to change that law, stretching it out and out and out because they refuse to have Snow White be released to view without gaining money from it?
Shrek: "The first thin I'm gonna do is build a 10 foot wall around my land" Jeremy: "and Mexico will pay for it" Me: That was so corny that it should be illegal.
@@mattholt2451 It can criticize it, yes. But this isn't giving a critique on the flaws of and just wiping shit off a clean plate with a infectiously dirty rag.
I like that CinemaSin’s writing makes Jeremy seem like he has dissociative identity disorder and short term memory loss that clings to his running gags as his only tether to reality.
Also, for Jeremy sinning the gold that the Dragon was guarding: Gold hoarding is a common trait in Dragons of any mythos. As you said yourself, Birdman, Smaug is an excellent example. And even in video games like Skyrim, the dragons at the word walls are always guarding a high value loot chest, and always have at least 150 Septims on their corpses.
I'd heard about the CinemaSins They'd find some faults, we'd laugh and grin But now they're washed out, desperate for the viewers Making pop culture references out of the blue Manipulating scenes to try to fool you They're a cold and they're a broken hallelujah Hallelujah, hallelujah, Hallelujah, hallelujah
Mike Myers did initially record his lines with his normal accent. (There are still recordings you could find via the technical goofs from Shrek 1.) But after listening to a rough cut of the film, Myers was afraid that the character didn’t have as much charm with the way he recorded his lines, so he asked the Dreamworks crew if he could re-record all of his lines using a Scottish accent. End result is what we see in the final cut and is honestly a good call.
(9:02) imagine being isolated on an island guarding a princess for years and years with no one to talk to. Then, a male comes a long (remember you probably haven’t seen a male in years), and they start flirting with you... Hell yes you would be flattered.
@13:10 The spell cast on Fiona clearly says “Until you find true love’s first kiss, and then take love’s true form”. Keyword: Love’s true form. Shrek is her true love, therefore she would become an ogre when they kiss, becoming her true love’s (Shrek) form (an ogre). CinemaSins just irritates the hell out of me sometimes.
Also, shrek wasn't even made by disney, it was made by dreamworks, which from a simple google search, can tell you is also not owned by disney, but is owned by mega media conglomerate NBCUniversal, which in turn is owned by Comcast.
FatQuickscope41 Since the majority of fairy tales are Disney you could say that is what Shrek was aiming for. But they reference just about any genre of film so it isn’t a Disney thing
MattyP The producer Jeffrey Katzenberg had a huge falling out with Disney at this time, of which then-CEO Michael Eisner played no small part. It’s pretty well-known that this movie was intended as a jab at Disney, not just fairy tales in general.
9:01 In some lore, such as Lord of the Rings, a good way to talk to dragons without them roasting you alive (at least for a bit) is to use flattery, to basically kind of “stroke their ego.”
9:44 There's an even simplier explanation for why Fiona's dress fit in both her Human and Ogre forms. Magic. This has got nothing to do with her wearing stretchy clothing, as even the wedding dress changes size to fit her at the end of the movie.
10:03 dude, that picture is actually real? Now I wanna know where can I find such a view of the moon, and why the moon looks like that in the first place. It's gorgeous!
It's a photo of a supermoon, right at about sunset. The moon can appear HUGE in the sky during this time. I personally caught one (not this big, but still fairly large).
0:32 "There are 2 K's, 2 E's, and 2 R's in this logo... This has always made me so mad... Yes, there are 2 K's and 2 R's... But there aren't 2 E's. I've never seen anybody point this out, WHERE IS THE SECOND E???
9:14 It’s called keeping a hoard. Dragons and dragonkin do it as a show of their power. As B3rb says later, look at the vast hoard of Smaug! He was literally swimming in so much gold he that even Fafnir would be properly jealous! Ya don’t mess with dragons unless ya ready to feel the burn.
"...stopped trying to kill them because she's fallen in love with Donkey (Eddie Murphy's @$$)." I love how you vocally rephrase some of the written dialogue, making some punny double entendres. I wonder if this one in particular was enough to send Cinema Sins to go mule-ing after his mother.
11:05 I was about say this wrong until I remembered that in my Kung-Fu class I took about 5 years ago we referred to our teacher as "Shifu," and I was just remembering wrong. Points for accuracy, but what she was doing was not Kung-Fu, and could also be Karate if we're using well known fighting styles for names, in which case Sensei would apply to the Japanese martial art.
Minor point -- this film actually has quite a lot to do with Disney. Katzenberg was a major driving force behind the Disney Renaissance, and then Eisner up and fired him. Shrek was in no small part a massive f*** you to Katzenberg's former employers. It specifically thumbs its nose not just at fairytales, but specifically at Disney's version of fairytales. That's why it's a jukebox musical, why Duloc is a mockery of Disney World, and why so many of the character designs are similar to the way Disney draws the characters. This is pretty well documented.
12:57 to add on this sin, she didn't really have much of a choice but to marry Fuckwad because that was his endgame in the first place without knowing of her curse. What you said does apply though, as she does begin to fall for shrek throughout the movie
8:56 its not necessarily a bad sin, but i have trouble believing that its coming from a genuine place when this is the same "person" or production that called Hermione's underage actor attractive. It feels more like, "Hey ladies! Im a nice guy, i respect womens boundaries! Also, periods suck! Please show me your boobs now!"
In addition to the Robin Hood thing, Robin Hood was French in the Star Trek The Next Generation episode Q-Pid in which Q transfers the officers into the story of Robin Hood and Jean-Luc Picard plays Robin Hood.
8:11 Jokes on Jeremy, a Pizza delivery guy showing up at the gates of a giant, fiery, dragon guarded castle is actually not that farfetched in the Shrek Universe.
Robin Hood's real identity was Sir Robin of Loxley. His family's lands were taken by Prince John after he was assumed dead during the Crusades. Most versions of the tale established that as his backstory except for, maybe, the Disney version starring Nick Wilde's ancestor.
i was so worried when you took that sin off for sinning all star and when you said you were trolling i burst out laughing. well played Th3Birdman, well played
I had the BIGGEST crush on her. My ex actually looked almost exactly like her, but Asian lol Then she was in Charlie's Angels with two other women I have crushes on to this day, and it was bliss.
Minor correction, Robin Hood wasn't a nobleman in the earliest folk tales. It wasn't until after the upper class started writing them down that his nobleman backstory was added to it because they were uncomfortable with stories of the lower class being praised for robbing them. So whether or not Jeremy is wrong depends entirely on which period in history we draw from. Somehow, I doubt he was aware of this, though. Yup, this is what a degree in folklore studies lets you do with your life: make minor corrections to random videos on the internet.
