Not that it makes it any less funny that a pizza delivery guy is the only one we see being inconvenienced, but yeah, the director just wanted his cameo.
I mean, it's quite possible the downstairs bathroom was off limits to guests. Maybe Dom didn't want drunk people pissing all over his bathroom for him to clean up in the morning. It's not that strange of an idea, so didn't deserve a sin.
I feel attacked because my home is 2 stories but the only bathroom is upstairs in the master bedroom, so if I have guests over I’d be like go ahead into my personal room
Not as good as tyrese sayin “Mia hide your baby oil” when the rock walks up then the rock on the spot spitting out “better hide that big a forehead” in ff6 best non scripted line ever
They should of stopped after fast five. Introduced the Rock, had fantastic action, racing, had a cool oceans 11 safe thing, and ended perfectly. After that they started going crazy
@The God of Skyrim let me rephrase it. It wasn't a real event until 2013, the movie is from 2001, and the event was made up for the movie. The real world event is based in the movie event and not the other way round.
Stephen Bushong same! Feel like several of these “sins” are complaining just to complain.... I mean it’s Hollywood 🤷♂️ it’s about entertainment... they’re not going for accuracy and realism for 2 hours. Dom probably didn’t tell him about a bathroom downstairs because he’s got something to hide in it? 🤷♂️
He does happen to make some very valid points though. This franchise is hands down my favorite ever..... but I was smiling at some of these sins because they’re actually super true
@@jackassaddictpretty sure this isn’t an actual critique channel, it shouldn’t be taken seriously. The whole point of the channel is to show stuff that nobody notices
On top of that, there are plenty of car guys on RU-vid alone that sometimes install that many parts or more in a day. Boosted Boiz and Cleetus McFarland are good examples of this.
The most shocking thing in this movie is that the Toretto's owned a fucking store that is not only never seen again in this movie but never in any other movie after it. So, for literally ONE scene, Dominic Toretto was potentially an owner of a grocery store.
What annoyed me the most is how it took Brian like over a minute to enter the house at the party, he was literally walking up the steps and decided to actually enter after Dom shouted at everybody which was like over a minute like what is he doing? Nobody's mentioned it though.
I like to imagine that after John cena, dom has an even younger brother who just manages a grocery store and is totally unaware of the globe spanning adventures his family partakes in
Missed Sin: After the fight between Brian and Vince, Dom tells Brian not to come there anymore. Vince attacks a paying, regular customer without any real provocation and Dom tells said customer to piss off. That's just poor business management.
So we aren’t gonna talk about the “Danger to Manifold” flashing on the car’s laptop and then the floor panel falling out randomly. Then Dom is sitting in the passenger seat where there is a supposed missing floor panel.
Nobody said it wasnt, lol, actually this movie has way more sins that the ones that were pointed out. That doesnt mean that is a bad movie, actually I really like this one.
@@Desmond-b4w not the pizza boy, the dude in the yellow R33 that said that. His name was Leon and he was a member of Dom's crew, but he just disappeared after this movie and no one even acknowledges his absence.
@@vontavius01 Yeah I was thinking about this morning after binging them all. Just like Toretto's diner, we're apparently supposed to forget they ever existed.
You forgot "not double clutching when you should". Double clutching is only required when there are no syncros in the transmission a la, a semi truck. It is very slow and would not be helpful in a race.
@@Brandonmntoya it's useless is a normal car...just rev match The point was btw that Dom criticised him for not double clutching in a f**king drag race where you only shift up
Forgot a few sins during Race Wars. 1: Tran's shirt switches to a tank top 2: Interior shots clearly show both drivers in a Civic 3: Jesse thinking his Jetta can smoke Tran's S2K 4: Tran dumping $100K in engine mods only to barely beat Jesse with a shot of nitrous
It's a safe bet it was Brian discouraging Jesse from racing in the first place and could have said any number but _someone_ was overconfident with his 2.0L 4-banger. CAI and a catback + a rumored 150-shot nitrous buuut in reality that spray would've caused his engine to detonate. Even if he had won that race against Tran he wouldn't 'be rollin' with his father. >.
DareToBeDeviant Not 100% true about the nitrous. That 2.0 ABA has forged pistons from the factory (1993-1995 had forged, 1996-1999 cast), the pistons even have their own oil squirters. It probably could take the nitrous, since people boost ABA"s all the time. I have ran 20 PSI on a bone stock 1995 spec 2.0. BUT for some reason, the movie used automatics, so then the 4 speed auto would blow up.
JobeMinacum Thanks for the specs. I'm not that into German mech. All I do know is without a perfect engine refitted with high quality parts made for extreme conditions, running so much spray is asking for trouble. I admit, not a pro with forced induction. Only worked on 3 supercharged cars in 8 years. Everyone where I live are all about going slow and gentle so fun is lacking. >.
DareToBeDeviant No worries! The 2.0 8v code ABA is actually a really stout motor, great for forced induction. A hair under 10:1 compression, forged pistons, oil squirters, dual valve springs, all from the factory from 1993-1995. That's what I have in my MK2 VW, and I am running over 20 PSI day to day with it. I have a 2 stage boost control, dd is only 1 bar, when I want to go fast I set it to 1.5 bar which is about 22PSI. Puts down over 250whp, and gets 28mpg. They're very stout motors, but the one in the F&F should have been a VR6.. it would have been much more realistic. No one mods a 2.0 expecting a lot of power because you won't get any. The 2.0 in the movie car just had a 260* cam, a camgear, intake, exhaust, and the direct port nitrous. That's like 130bhp (stock is 115hp and 122tq), about 280+ with the nitrous, but the trans never would have handled it. The MK3 platform VW automatics are HORRIBLE.
JobeMinacum Wow I just got schooled. XD Good job on your car, and even more impressive is the potential mileage with that kind of boost. All my cars are n/a but would probably introduce some induction if I had the funds and know-how. Except the classics I have. Old motors are old. I'd like to be able to close the hood anyway. >.> It's a shame no one did their homework when these movies were produced. Now any newbie whose seen them all will think 100% of all that baloney is completely true, most notoriously the infamous "NOS!" *boom* scene. If purged near an open flame, the nitrous would blow it out like a candle. The last 'true' racing movies were from the 70s and 80s. I miss realism.
GT Touring, Le Mans, Formula 1, WRC - all have competing vehicles that use 8 Speed Gearboxes Some new Audis, Maseratis and Range Rovers use them too. They may be rare in the US but they're pretty prevalent across Europe. I did say that it was unlikely the Eclipse had one but my point was that it's not impossible that it did. Illegal street racing is pretty big business _(moreso in the movie)_ so if you have the right connections _(especially black market connections)_ you can get practically anything. If they can afford all the crappy sound systems, hydraulic suspension, roll cages and NOS they can afford to fork out for a better gearbox.
3:35 sorry but Sin FAIL. First thing any car guy does is lay out all his parts on the floor to look at before the build. Its probably the most accurate part of the movie. Irony given all the fails they have
@@Ian4bis interesting. Would that mean a old us V8 with a single cam And push rods? We don't have that type of engine over here (not commonly anyway and the last time we had that type of engine was in the late 50s/early 60s And they were v6s -exotic!- or the old none cross flow heads on 900cc-1300cc engines. I only ask because I've built lots of engines and never been able to work on a push rod engine :( they just don't really exist in England anymore
@@Ian4bis there's a video from the guy that actually built the supra, and in that, he say saying that all those part are actually spare parts that were laying around the garage, none of that parts were actually used in the supra!
1:45 "you mean to tell me a car can run when it does this shit?" ....yes yes it can, not recommend lol but it technically can still run depending what he broke. But its white smoke so its coolant probably leakjng to the headers. Even after all the dramatic scenes
Sergio exactly what I was thinking, typically it’s a blown gasket or a fluid is leaking (like coolant or power steering fluid) very possible to drive. Low key pissed me off when he said that😂😂😂
it could be as simple as a blown oil seal or fitting spitting a small amount of oil onto the hot headers. Definitely nothing wrong with the car. I remember working at a gas station once and some lady wants me to top up oil in her engine. A split a drop on the headers and it started smoking, then she started getting all upset and complaining to the boss thinking I had broken her car XD
@@Jezza_C_WT yh that annoyed me as might just have cracked the the the rad cap (expansion tank cap) a lot of steam but if it’s spitting liquid coolant on the hot engine could cause that much steam so no actual damage just low on coolant
Jay Vette If sins are counted as something wrong in a movie, then the “Danger to Manifold” is not a Sin, injecting too much NoS to the Engine could blow welds on your intake and damage, if not destroy the Manifold.
@@thatonetanker5565 Yes, but in the scene in question, all that happens is the floorboard rips off. That's not the manifold. That's not even near the manifold, or has anything to do with the manifold. That is definitely a sin.
Jay Vette Yes i know, I mean the Computer is warning that the Manifold may explode or what, that happens in real life but i guess the real sin is the Floor Pan unbolts itself,lol.
John Ziriada on the DVD there’s a prequel thing to 2 Fast 2 Furious where Brian finds a dusty R34 GTR sitting in the back of a used car lot haha. So not technically in the movie but a sin for sure
What about the 100 speed transmissions, the “I wanna go faster in a race so I just press the gas down further” scenes. Those two things alone count up to more movie sins counted in any two of your videos. Lol
The only thing that I think is incorrect in this video is the critique of 'race wars,' by saying that it's "highly illegal." There ARE racing events that are legally sanctioned on the runways of US military bases, such as the Coronado Speed Festival.
Are we all just gonna pass up the fact that Silvia S15s and Nissan Skylines are not only illegal to own in the us, but nearly impossible to legally import?
the r33 skyline and everything before it are legal because they qualify as classic cars, and the silvia is perfectly legal here. it the r34 skyline that illegal and it doesnt appear in this movie anyway
It's shocking how much better this movie has aged. With each sequel, this movie becomes better and better Also, that truck chase at the end is fuckin gnarly
Because it's the only one grounded in some sort of reality, unlike the later ones where they go from simple petty criminals to unkillable God tier mercenaries.
CinemaSins To be fair, you don't need anything to cross in to Mexico when you cross the land border. I cross all the time in El Paso/Cd. Juarez. The problem is getting back. (0_o)
How the hell did the truck get more damaged than the Dodge and why did the Dodge fly and roll over when hitting and apparently climbing all over the damned thing? It should've just gone straight into the truck to a dead stop with the Dodge being crumbled like a soda can, killing Dom.
@@jwheelerjr000 the movie actually had a very competent (and real car enthusiast) consultant called Craig Lieberman. He is the guy waving his hands and starting the races during Race Wars. He has a RU-vid channel where he talks about this movie's production. He also talks about the infamous "Danger to manifold" warning. Definitely worth checking.
I'm surprised you skipped all the glaring car related errors. There's the famous "granny shifting, not double clutching like you should" nonsense, the ridiculously exaggerated effects of nitrous oxide, the fact that floorpan on Brian's car inexplicably falls out when his engine blows, and lets not forget "I live my life a quarter mile at a time".
They hardly ever have super cars. They usually just have beanermobiles like tricked out hondas and mitsubishis. I'm assuming Need for Speed will be more like what you're saying.
Also: Nissan SR20 engines in Hondas, and why the Hell would the truck drivers just hold their rigs steady while all this crap is going on? I used to drive a truck...this would be like an elephant swatting off a couple of housecats lol.
I think the first race really confused me a lot. his computer says 'danger to manifold' then his floor pan flies off.. lol Also he says at the very beginning his car maxed out at such and such., an he says he needs nos to go faster.. Yet nos will not change your gear ratios it will still max out at the same speed.. hahaha But even the director said ff1 and 2 were marketed at teenagers, and they would have done more research if they knew it would be such a success. As they continue to cop shit from car guys. lol
martinshoosterman you do know no matter how high your engine revs your gearing is what will max out... lol Its got Nothng to do with how high your engine revs... Also your rev limiter will stop the engine from revving any higher than it can.. running nos and revving the engine past its operating point without a rev limiter will result in failure, not many people are that stupid, and your top speed will still be the same, it just might have got you there quicker. so i dont know who would have told you that. a limiter is a limiter, its limits shit for a very good reason. and again, its modifying the gearing not the engine to increase top speed.
Tim Huth lol. you like cars and you know a good amount about cars so im not going to insult you, but you do realise your revs, are 100% responsible for your speed. your engine revs in revolutions per minute. the gears simply multiple this inorder to increase your speed. so you can do 150km/h at 3000rpm, not 45,000rpm. when you hit your highest gear your engine is under allot more stress because the rpm is being multiplied allot more. just like on a bicicle, thats why as you aprouch higher speeds your exeleration goes down. but even in your highest gear you will still exelerate untill your engine hits the limit. a car running nos will probably not have a rev limiter. with out one a number of things will happen at the top end. most likley you will destroy your engine. but in the case were you have a rock solid engine, it will simply run out of power and stall. probably breaking something ells. with nos not only will you get more power inorder to be able to rev a little bit higher, the nitrogen oxide also helps each individual explostion take less time which means your engine will not mis fire. all of this combined will allow you to reach a slightly higher top speed. although 99 times out of 100, it breaks your engine. if you were too ad in another gear you would reduce the stress on the engine by alowing it to decrease in revs, but you then increace the power requirments to exerate causing the rate of exeleration to drop dramaticly. eventually you get to the point where even at the point were the engine is producing the most power, thats still not enough to exelerate it, and even if their are plenty of gears left the car will simply stop accelerating.
martinshoosterman you still mentioned that you would need another gear.. the car reaching maximum revs isn't the top speed. it is limited by gearing.. final gearing can be modified to allow it but that is really all.. Your really explaining overrevving, which is not about topping out.. That would not help him win a race if he were to overrev the engine to get a miniscule amount of speed over what the gearing will allow.. hop you understand what im trying to say.. If you want more top speed, you need a new or modified gearbox with a longer final gear..
Tim Huth yea, if you want allot more speed then you need another gear (or a smaller final gear), although your car will not always be able to handle another gear, sometimes you car will stop exelerating before you hit max rpm at your final gear. but over reving can give you a solid 10-15mph which in something like a 1/4 mile drag race, thats a win right their.
3:32 - you probably would, it’s basically the same thing people do when putting together a Lego set, organizing all the pieces before you start assembly
3:35 actually that is what we do, I work building performance cars regularly and we very often lay all the parts out in front of us, it’s so we know what has to go on first everyone gets forgetful
Maybe the chasis twisted because of the torque :p. But why was the floor pan bolted on is beyond me. Also i think the computer said danger to the intake manifild, which wasn't demaged in the end. The thing that started smoking is most likely overheated coolant, or clutch. (Most likely coolant). Therefore the car could keep running after it "blew up". Also the big sin was the exploading nos. NOS does not expload. Even if the bottle is under heavy pressure it has a safety valve.
jura2304 i agree with the intake part and the N2O not exploding however, n2O pooly rigged can cause a gaint fireball. seen it happen first hand. and since in the movie he was racing and because of the scamble never left chances are his bottle would still be open therefore the pressure being an issues wouldnt explode. the n2o in the lines couldve ruptured and caught fire. which again is extremely unlikely however still possible
you forgot the following sins 1. Nitrous oxide is not even flammable so no flames shooting out the exhaust if it did happen it would melt there exhaust NOS its used to cool down the block so it can run at higher RPMs for longer 2. The 20 gear transmission because they were shifting way to much for a straight away which the only vehicles that use that many gears are old semi trucks from the mid 90s and before 3. When Brian lost his floor panel in the first race it was magicly back when the race was over 4. If there was that much white or blue (I never could tell for sure) while means he was gushing anti freeze or oil the most common reasons why that was is the car blew a head gasket because of a catastrophic misfire or knocking in which case would have come close to if not cripple the car permanently 5. If that area was in California and that was the Mack truck model I think it was it is not allowed on California's roads because of their emissions and safely law's
dude do you even know what MAP means it means "manifold absolute pressure" it is only one of the many sensors of the for fuel systems its a input the PCM but it doesn't control the air fuel ratio the O2 sensor does and if he did shoot flames out of the tail pipe for that long it would have fried them because most Asian imports they have to O2 sensor right outside the exhaust ports and the car would run like shit he would also burn the exhaust valves melt the exhaust system do you even know what kind of fuel ratio it would take to blow flames out your tail pipe you would be dumping around a gallon in every compression stroke and the flames coming out were to steady which means the that the mixture was still ignited during the intake stroke which would make a intake back fire and light his air filter on fire at the same time frying the map iac, iat, and maf
betatalk357 and NOS is there to keep the system cool if the flames flaring out the NOS is not even doing its job admit it its just movie logic its a great thrilling action movie but not a good logic follower
You missed all of the things that were actually wrong with the movie from a technical aspect; a 7-speed trans in the first scene Brian is in, the blown out passenger floor, the laptop that somehow knows the burst strength of the intake (or exhaust) manifold, etc. And that's just in the first couple scenes.
1:39 Of course it can run! just cause there's white smoke coming out of the engine it doesnt mean it cant run. thats a pretty obvious sign of fried piston rings (as dom said a minute later). And that is definentally not instantly lethal to an engine
Can't forget about the screen that shows Brian whats wrong with the car, "Manifold malfunction" or whatever. The manifold is a piece of steel that directs air into the cylinder heads. No car on earth even now has a sensor for it... nor any aftermarket for it because its useless. At least the Charger has its exhaust, fuel tank, and such when it flips... unlike some of the cars in the later movies.
Ahh, yea... technically I guess you got me there and I'm sure he was pushing way over the amount of boost rated for that plenum and his intake bolts... :-/
As a personal theory I believe this movie could've been even greater, (besides all of the movies counted and uncounted) if they changed the plot a little after Dom gave Brian the card before going to street wars and actually joining his crew or something. It's sad how the series is now it's completely outrageous when comparing the 9th to the first one, almost makes this one look like a master piece with the sins lol. I was born watching the movies especially being from Miami totally made me believe it was real
White smoke could mean its just the radiator overheating, which once its cooled means it could probably run again, plus the car most likely has an intercooler
The white smoke is coolant turned into steam due to the engine running so hot after 2 NO2 shot. The engine did suffer damage from overheating but likely not enough to prevent it from running, it would just run like shit until the bottom end was rebuilt assuming the block/heads weren't cracked.
Probably one of the mods involved cutting out that space and attaching a replacement panel. Maybe that's something people really do, for weight reduction or something
Is it blocked via posters choice or just blocked? Cause it might be because of Lionsgate, being a Canadian/American company but having a HQ in Montreal. Don't quote me on that though, it's just my friend lives in Canada and he finds a majority of Lionsgate film websites or stuff including stuff from them blocked, he gets round it with an extension called 'Hola! Better Internet' changes your IP address, I use it for NetFlix to get the US version, so it should work on RU-vid as well, hope it does for you mate, really good EWW episode the Catching Fire one
Sin 45 shouldve been "Also, stolen Panasonic DVD players. Really? You couldn't have stolen something better? I don't know. Like money?"...I could see him saying that haha.
"the car is smoking and you telling me it can still drive?!" Yes. All he done is overheated it, and fucked piston rings. Cars drivable, it won't be driving great tho
at 8:17, umm how would the driver know he's getting robbed? "I'm gonna put a stack of books or a mannequin in the front seat for this trip, i may get robbed and the robbers may use a harpoon gun"
Because they rob the same strip of road every time. Truck drivers can go. Oh. I gotta drive down the road where trucks get robbed all the time. Better think ahead. They do the same thing when wrecks are on a road or ice, you know, shit that gets called in and they can watch ahead for. See those falling rocks signs on sides of roads? Yep. You know, every other safety hazard sign out there. All the same thing. Either someone is as stupid and deaf as you, or you thumbed up your own comment, which is sad.
ok, I'm more talking about why you'd put a "Mannequin" or a "stack of books" in the front seat, like the two most stupid things to do, um a stack of books would been obliterated by the harpoon gun and so would've the mannequin. but idk why you said something bout safety hazards, wtf does that have to do with getting robbed?
i know if i was a truck driver, i sure as hell wouldn't put a mannequin in my front seat, cuz god only knows that all my trucker buddies would make fun of me. i may carry a machete with me though, so i can cut any damn rope or wire that is foreign to my truck..
Videos I'd like to see made next. 2 Fast 2 Furious National Treasure (and sequel) Watchmen Jarhead Gladiator Shaun of the Dead Hot Fuzz Paul Terminator sequels All Indiana Jones movies The A team 21
I know something about trucks pulling out. The blind turn will be clear but because it takes like 20 seconds to get up enough speed to pull out, any car speeding (such as those two) will come around and hit you before you could even reverse. The truck scene is the most realistic part of the movie.
I know there are a ton of things wrong with this movie but... it brings me so many childhood memories, its really nostalgic. Ill give you a like though :)
The best part is that most of the people on the race scene were hispanic, black, asian, etc and turns out the only white guy with blonde hair turns out to be the cop. You think they would have all caught that immediately.
I just find it ironic that a guy who made his career with films that glorify fast cars and fiery crashes ended up dying in a fiery crash while speeding.
