Everything WRONG With The Guns In Cyberpunk 2077 

what if kel tec is bugget arms in the future by a change of director and a new foccus?

Fun fact! The fallout 4 assault rifle IS an assault rifle, it has a detachable box mag chambered in an intermediate round and it is select fire, technically, therefore, it is an assault rifle, also if you say that it doesn’t look like one, nor does the HK G11, but the G11 is an assault rifle

Please share the mod(s) that you've used to correct the stats. I can't be the only person here that would want them.

Erebus is a AI-powered gun with smart bullets which "connect" to local network inside the body and basically burn out the brain similar to netrunner attack, and synapses are burned to a crisp with a very heavy data flow, erasing their memories and personalities piece by piece in a quick manner, like a portable, swift and violent Alzheimer. What's more horryfing, is that their "souls" (or consiousness) could be sent behind the Blackwall for the Rogue AI to tortue them indefinetely. So it's not just a warcrime, it's a thing you would never wanted to exist even if you're killing Hitler with it.

Erebus is a AI-powered gun with smart bullets which "connect" to local network inside the body and basically burn out the brain similar to netrunner attack, and synapses are burned to a crisp with a very heavy data flow, erasing their memories and personalities piece by piece in a quick manner, like a portable, swift and violent Alzheimer. What's more horryfing, is that their "souls" (or consiousness) could be sent behind the Blackwall for the Rogue AI to tortue them indefinetely. So it's not just a warcrime, it's a thing you would never wanted to exist even if you're killing Hitler with it. Also, SPT-32 Grad uses Militech scope, which is intended to be used also as a binocular (and is shown to be used like that), so the sniper scope thing is more of an optional feature.

There is no escape from my wrath

@@ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy LOLL

The animations in modern Bethesda games are so bad, tho that I'd still prefer the worst guns in this game to the best Bethesda has to offer

@@ItsYaBoyBrandyBoywhen we getting another modded play through

​@@ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy Can we get PUBG in a next video?.

Insane levels of based

It’s also chambered in .500 nitro express Which is used in fucking elephant guns by the way

He asked specificaly for "a handgun that could flatline a cyberpsycho fan at 50(15?) paces, no matter how chromed up they were"

Also, bet y'all didnt know that hipfiring it gives it the ricochet attribute, with aiming down the sights giving it low armor/cover piercing abilities

Style over function is Cyberpunks whole thing lol

Along with making every city Japanese

Not even specifically a cyberpunk thing, just art in general.

@@railfandepotproductions because the genre came out in the late 80s/90s. Where Japanese electronic was dominated the market. Everyone thought the Japanese will take over.

@@knell18897 what about blade runner, it was released in 1982, not the late 80s

@@railfandepotproductions i was thinking about mikepondsmith version, and the animes from Japan

In a broader sense, I've noticed tons of overarching themes of humanity being in a cyclical state and not really changing despite the locations and times doing so.

yeah but otherwise every pistol would be a glock and every rifle a ar-15. thats boring

no you're right, Night City really is in California, according to lore it's between LA and SF, where the real-life Morro Bay is

@@puzzlefischer1205 oh i know that but i’m just joking about the gun laws. 😅

​@@puzzlefischer1205All of the sudden, the Night City is starting to feel like dystopia.

Technically, in canon, Night City is its own sovereign, independently governed nation. As of 2020(I don't know if any other material since then has updated this) the weapon laws in night city are as follows: open carrying is pretty much for police and corporate security only. Only police, military, and corporate security, and physically disabled people are allowed to own automatic weapons, and only corporate security may own blades over 18 inches in length.

@@lakshaykochhar6799 ALL THE SUDDEN?!?!?

it's entirely possible that this is intentional, just imagine the corpo profit of selling brand-specific attachments, although ghetto modifications like add-vantage does work around this

@@puzzlefischer1205 it's *possible* but given the nature of the game's development I don't think it's likely. Either way, it ends up working out amusingly

@@RagnellAvalon the optimization and glitches were very bad (at launch), but they definitely put in a lot of effort when it comes to world building and narrative

@@puzzlefischer1205 if it was intentional they would make a point of it in the story. Like, put it in a dialogue between characters or make a quest about it. These things need explaining and approving by the developers

If you know anything about cyberpunk lore you know for a fact this is correct. Lol. Even if it wasn't intentional it's correct.

"Man-Made Horrors Beyond Your Comprehension" The Gun

"You know what, fuck you!" *shoots an AI into your brain*

What it does is literally sending your enemy straight to hell. It forcibly uploads your consciousness inside the blackwall (practically hell in cyberpunk universe) to be toyed around by rogue AIs (who are literally demons) all the while it fries your entire body inside out

You basically send them to hell

Not only that but if you think about it The blackwall's rouge AI is basically harvesting whoever taps into it. Erebus is basically doing the job Alt wants By basically forcing the targets at hand into the blackwall, by making them into blackwall versions. So it's not only the fact they die horrifically, but that they're also now entities from beyond the blackwall. Which makes me question why in the mother of fuck are the VDBs fucking with the wall.

I'm so sad the 1Tru Luv from the tabletop isn't in 2077. It's a sniper rifle with an anime girlfriend AI.

The best ship in from the game

Yet...

Sadly

@@ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy skill issue just duct tape magnets of opposite poles and put a sling shot on one end

​@@itsyaboymarcelluswallace that might just work, for an Ork.

​@@itsyaboymarcelluswallace That was some poor man's railgun.

A future were small arms manufacturers followed the Apple model instead of the PC model is truly dystopian AF, so it fits lol.

@@phazonlord0098 i mean it is literally what tge game lore is. Mega corp selling their own product while sending their own private army, spies to hit the other mega corp while the government sit there sucking their own thumb.

Cyberpunk is largely about unchecked capitalism and megacorps having a monopoly on basically everything so I actually really like this take.

And yet this mf thinks Cyberpunk = modern day America All we gotta say is *BWEEEM* *INCORRECT*

​@@TenshinSoundthat's false.

Now it sounds like I wanna get the game…

@@magnusvonbraun9870 Chip in Choom

And then you realize this is true for world design and bugs

@@sigmamale4147 Cyberpunk has amazing world design and the current version doesn't have that much bug

​@@magnusvonbraun9870just remember your actions mean practically nothing in games unlike advertised. Sad stuff

'New Swatting tec just dropped.'

So correct me if I'm wrong. The old net is our real life worlds current internet. And in Cyberpunk it got filled to the brim with computer viruses. And then the old net was covered up by basically digital cardboard and then they build a new net over it. Am I correct?

@@tdpuuhailee8222 yes Also the viruses can melt your brain and some are full skynet murder everyone types others like alt are more human ish

@@tdpuuhailee8222 Basically.

@@tdpuuhailee8222 Correct, and now the corporations have set up their own private nets in place of the old one. These new nets are disconnected from each other, e.g. Night City's net is not shared with Atlanta's net.

I knew someone would do that once I've seen that they come in different plastics from the vending machine like the early MACs 😂

Turn it into the vastly superior grit now so that's a plus

LOL I've had that happen with Clipper lighters. I'm just happy they're refillable 😂😂

Does Malorian Arms 3516 contains any electromagnetic accelerators? I read the descriptions and cannot see it.

@@sciarpecyril Yep, that entire "barrel shroud" has the accelerators. the thing about the company that made his gun, Malorian Arms? Yeah, they're like the Night Hawk customs but with a computer degree of Cyberpunk. They have access to some of the highest tech shit, but they rarely get to flex because their guns are expensive as hell and only used by the wealthiest solos who prefer utilitarian but strong weaponry, or corporate heirs who want a flashy piece for their belt.

@@cadendains8106 Not anymore though. They removed its ability to penetrate walls in the 2.0 update.

Just mod and get the Malorian 3516 Explosive. Problem solved and it packs a punch. I use John Wick's Combat Master when im out on gigs though 😂​@cdsatcher

@@cdsatcher True, that annoyed the shit out of me when I played after 2.0, but at least it still gets stronger from Tech perks.

Too bad its damage is too low, so outside of Johny's memories it is barely functional.

@@13253415you can upgrade it so it stays usable

@@13253415 That's why I play with HARDCORE22 mod. Insta-cures the bulletsponge.

​@@13253415 game balance nerfed him lol

@@13253415 The crit chance when you use all of Johnny's gear is 100%, so it basically is the same if you cosplay as him

Battlefield 4 managed to implement shotguns very well

I don't care, it should be realistic or it's BAD gun design Stop coping

@@ni9274 "stop coping" my friend, I dislike the confetti canons, I'm just explaining why things are the way they are for anyone who might not know... why so hostile?

​@@ni9274 one of my favourite game is Battlefield 2 Modern Combat on PS2. Its shotgun kills at range of 20 meters. The problem is, everyone calls it a bad game.

I always enjoyed shotguns in Payday 2, althought that is a PvE game so balancing isn't as important as it is in a normal PvP.

damn, that mean.

That sounds terrifying. Thank you for the explanation.

@@romkoppel5302 basically, the AI is using you to collect data on how to kill humans. and it plans on killing every human it can.

@@charlumau it means that "thing" will hack into the nervous system and make your nervous system think its in pain, enough to kill you.

Ohhh I thought it absorbed people like Alt Cunningham, that's uh.... way more fucked up.

And thats a damn good reason to not buy an arasaka gun, but I guess consumers in Cyberpunk are just as invertibrate as IRL so points for accuracy. Still, gonna have deduct points for consumers not complaining about their own purchases and giving politicians more power so they can protect them from themselves, which is totally unrealistic. "WHHHHAAAAA MICROSOFT HAS A MONOPOLY" Meanwhile literally every single Linux distro : *_exists_*

I was gonna leave a similar comment, but I'm pretty sure they don't have standardised attachment points by company either so it still sucks. Absolutely what *should* be the case though, since I recall hearing about something similar with cyberware even if it might have just been fanon.

@@felixjohnson3874 Yes, and most people don't want a 5+ step install that isn't just a wizard, or to have to boot their web browser though command line. Windows maintains its monopoly because all the competition fails to do everything windows does as well as it does or better without being inconvenient for the average tech-illiterate rando.

@@tidalgrunt6549 you can literally find videos of children installing ubuntu. As in, literal bloody 6 year olds. If the worlds adult population is dumber than the average 6 year old then I'm sorry but blame darwin because at that point its just a selection pressure. Given everything we do in our day to day lives relies on technology, maybe there is a good reason why "tech illiterate rando"s should feel pressured to take some damned accountability for once in their life. If you cannot handle computers as well as a 6 year old, you aren't just incompetent, you represent a genuine liability. You have alternatives, your unwillingness to use them is your problem, and your problems do not justify taking away other people's rights; *_including_* other people's right to use software, hardware and anything else as-is, whether you like it as-is or not. Oh also, look up the fucking definition of a monopoly. At most you could argue duopoly but even then its pretty tenuous. And this is ignoring the fact that monopolies mean jack shit. You wanna hear about an "unchallengeable natural monopoly"? *_fucking MySpace._* I am genuinely sick and bloody tired of internet warriors blindly parroting economic terms they don't understand to defend their own inability and laziness. Drop the righteous indignation and find a spine to borrow; your problems are yours, and no-one elses. Your refusal to solve your problems does not give you or anyone else, including even 51% of anyone elses, the right to force other people to solve them for you.

@@felixjohnson3874 in our world you don't have to deal with your OS trying to fry your brain if you modify it or have to deal with killsquads if you start distributing your own proprietary software

Lots of nuance of the old RPG was lost in the translation into a videogame sadly. My cope for the loss of caseless ammunition is that the setting as of 2077 is technically post-post-apocalypse so maybe people went back to using old antiquated relics to kill each other for a while, but that still makes no sense because then the high tech guns should be old designs and the metal pieces of crap welded together should be current. It makes zero sense why a megacorp like Arasaka for example would have modern conventional rifles like the masamune when smart-linking exists, and has now been upgraded from a literal smart neural link between your weapon and your body to aim your gun for you like an aimbot to literal smart magic gyrojet bullets that can somehow change their trajectory in mid air and home into targets, which is its own brand of stupid.

cause it's based on the gun from Bladerunner

Well Johnny was blowing shit uo in the early 2000’s. From 1988-2023

​@@kamj6607what is this supposed to mean? The Blade Runner gun did not have a clear grip and Blade Runner came out in 1982, not the 2000s.

Haha corrupt data and unstable AIs go brrr

Despite being grammatically incorrect, "rouge" still technically fits.

Ah yes, the schizophrenia gun

​@@dimsthedimwit600Except in this case, the Schizophrenia can actually stab you

yum...

That's not particularly dark, if anything it's pretty inline with our current reality.

create the problem sell the solution

​@@anafu-sankanashi8933you're saying our current reality, or at least our future, isn't looking dark?

Pretty much every company in the Cyberpunk universe is a version of what Apple would be if they were given full freedom on what they can do. Creating ecosystems that instead of helping the user, are meant to oblige the user to pledge full loyalty to your products because everything else is not compatible, and the customer is pretty much obliged to suck it up or fuck off

@@ZeroDegg More like if every company was a cable company

I saw a lot of Hudson H9.

It's more like the end result of a pistol polycule, really.

MK23 SOCOM

she's a healthy one

Its the mk23. How the hell could you possibly not know that??!!!!

You can tell actual effort went into designing these guns, I’d like to think that one of the pitches to the design team was “we need weapons that look like modern day guns but if they continued to develop further from how they look today to the point where they look like a completely different weapon than what they actually were” not what Bethesda did and probably put in “blocky cassette futurism sci-fi shotgun” into Sora and went to the designers and said “recreate that”

Style over Substance Doesn't matter how you do it, you just have to look cool doing so That is the main rule of cyberpunk

they did take a lot of effort on developing this game and designing its aesthetic, and that's what really separates 2077 from Starfield, one has the foundations of a great game but was launched at a shitty unfinished state due to higher-ups of CDPR having their heads up their ass; the other is foundationally a bad and lazy game with huge amounts of stuff that they skimmed over and overall just not satisfying to play

@@valeon7303 Absolutely this right here, but also Cyberpunk's universe specifically you have Kitsch: style over substance, Neo-Kitsch: style and substance, Neomilitarism: substance over style, and Entropism: necessity over style, and all 4 can definitely be seen in a lot of the weapons, the impractical mad things are pure kitsch, something like the disposable one entropic, the liberty is pretty decent as a neokitsch design using the functional unity platform but giving it the gaudy barrel, and by extension the simplicity and straightforwardness of the unity fits neomilirarism.

Idk maybe I am a fudd, but most of cp2077 guns look to me goofy af, only redeeming quality of cp2077 is modding community.

My god. This is unforgivable

Yo dawg...

Especially the ones you throw to reload, forgot the gun company name.

@longcheese6179 if you mean borderlands I think they was called tedior

Cyberpunk has never been grounded or realistic, it's the darkest and worst possible hypothetic future where common sense goes to die, and consumerism is the only thing that matters, worse yet people are so abused by the corpos that they're fine with it

Guns don't need to make sense in video games for you to enjoy them lol

No one is safe 🪓

​@@jablinski_time but you'll never see it the same anymore 😢

Nobody is safe. NOBODY. It's complete PANDEMONIUM in here!!! GOD HELP US ALL.

Let's see what you're say about Everything Wrong with Fallout 3 (DLC include) and Half-life (1, expansions and 2) ​@@ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy

Which is pretty much all the in-game arms manufacturers care about anyway.

@@CarlSlime I like to imagine Cyberpunk is the worst timeline possible and in this timeline the impractical designs of the obscure weapons that inspired them won out over the practical designs.

@@TenshinSound how is that the worst timeline? china is worse already

@@TenshinSound I think the guns of 2077 are purposely designed to be jank, since the creators of the game did say something about how fucked up this timeline is in some interviews, and also all the goofy adverts and descriptions, similar to GTA, just shows how fucked up their world is, except this time it's futuristic and 100x more twisted

dont forget how heavy they would all be. irl you probably couldnt carry any of these comfortably for more than 5 minutes. SO much metal despite IRL straying from metal in favor of polymers.

Pull over? Are you admitting to watching RU-vid videos while driving? Like an absolute braindead moron? And then writing this comment? While driving? Or is this just some crazy bad communication you've done here?

Sorry are you watching HOUR LONG content while driving????

@@Nate-bd8fg I have RU-vid premium, so I run the audio through the stereo system and leave the screen off.

So that's why ask the guns look like dog shit in this game. The source material

100%.

@@LymeGreen04 Gun look very good, you're literally the only one that hate them

@ni9274 why are you so upset I think the guns look like hot garbage? Does my opinion offend you? Go back to rule 34 and cry about it

ur so real for this i was doing the exact same

Saaaaame!

So much of cyberpunk is style over practicality. Looks are everything in the dark future so it makes sense

Then why say they're "bad gun design" ?

Honestly it was kinda weird he didn't bring that up, isn't the dardick video from forgotten weapons the top result if you just look up magazine fed revolver? Tbh it's not an insane system, it basically pipelines the cycling process and I imagine could lead to a super mechanically simple mag-feeder with a little work. IIRC it being so simple and robust has led to it being used for heavy rapid-firing autocanons because you really can just pipeline the entire process, pick up a bullet, rotate, fire, rotate, eject, rotate, pickup a bullet, rotate, fire, rotate, eject, etc.

Yeah, as soon as I heard "magazine fed revolver" I was like "yes! He's gonna talk about the Tround!", and then a completely different gun got brought up. I suppose it's because the revolver in game doesn't exactly look like it's using the Tround's feeding system I didn't know that the system actually was used still, I thought the Dardick was such a failure it sorta dragged the entire idea down with it

It was patched, but yeah, i survived a 30 story fall with that thing

RED came out *with* 2077; what's the source on RED inspiring 77?

@@Crossfade1625 Red itself would come out a month before 77. Even still, it is fair to say that Red may not have fully inspired (for the purpose of the Malorian, it absolutely did and we can see this in RED's mechanics for the Malorian as well as how the Malorian is modeled in game compared to the Malorian's actual art)- if we want to get super pedantic, we can go down to 2020 which arguably inspired moreso (though RED itself is just an updated version of 2020). If you do want to see inspirations though, RED's lore is referenced consistently throughout the game with the aftermath of the Arasaka Tower nuke as well as with the lore surrounding Johnny in his final moments (see the corebook). That said, RED is one of the larger inspirations BUT 2020 as well as 2013 has many inspirations as well (2020's events are referenced with Johnny's dialogue with Samurai as well as the events which are stated in 2077 to take place in 2020 whereas 2077 almost entirely copies Cyberpunk 2013's backgrounds with the exception of Corpo).

Red did not inspire 2077. The entire ttrpg catalogue stemming from 2013 - 2020 - v3 - cybergenerations + RED inspired 2077. As for the Malorian, it does not give a W&S bonus in RED it simply comes with a smartgun link. You may be confused with some of the superchrome weapons found in a later added supplement. In the original introduction of the Malorian 3516 it was considered one of the most powerful handguns on the market, dealing 6d6 damage and far superior in single shot damage against rifles. This model sports some nice details, including an Orbital Titanium Frame, Something known as Dyna-porting,and Direct cyber interlink that locks up the cyberarm the gun is being held in through the use of interface plugs and cords. This can be found In Blackhands Street Weapons for Cyberpunk 2020 Page 16-17

@@reedmichello7819 You are right, I am wrong about the Wardrobe and Style- you are however wrong about Red not inspiring 2077 the lorebook in the base corebook literally is showcased within 2077, alongside the countless references to the lore in game (especially with the lore of the Nomads). This literally can be found on CD: Projekt Red's website.

It got changed with Phantom Liberty

The dying night now uses a unique skin with the bayonet, and its original look got turned into the xmod-2 version of the same gun. Edit: They also changed some of the legendary effects, the ones I remember are: Moron Labe -original: higher fire rate -updated: higher damage, odd recoil pattern Headsman -Original: lower capacity, double (quad, maybe?) pellet count -Updated: lower capacity, slug rounds, higher headshot damage Fenrir -Original: bonus fire damage -Updated: fire and electrical damage, chance of cyberware malfunction

@@trippy0752moron labe has an unstable fire rate it gets slower and faster randomly

Thanks. I stopped reading their patch notes a while ago. I only recently installed the game again, after some hardware upgrades. When I started a new character (since all the major systems were overhauled), I was really confused when I obtained the Dying Night.

That one handed smart shotgun goes hard tho

I swear he doesn't actually play half the time, just bitches for youtube views

Agreed I will take these guns design over… the alternative… ahem Bethesda!

Why do you have to forgive a fucking sci-fi game for not having realistic guns ? Everything need to be a military sim ?

@@ni9274 calm down man it ain’t that serious.

It does really look like something that would be mounted on a turret, vehicle or some kinda killer robot

​@@Scharrezthe HMGs are welded to the mech enemies

every one of those guns is just meme tier lmao

The Nue does say it's "Engineered to fit any hand" - and in Cyberpunk that could include nonstandard bionics. If you've got some big trash compactor of a hand you might not be able to fit your finger through a traditional trigger guard.

There's smart projectile based weapons that shoot smaller models and solid metal shots for tech weapons that go from three burst shots to a giant rod of metal so ammo is probably just streamlined also it's a bideo game when compared with rpg sourcebooks

Riskit is good

I just miss suppressed revolvers, it was dumb as shit but fun as hell.

Still one of my favorite weapons in the game. And it still performs well enough as a main weapon on a dedicated kereznikov-pistols build. But yeah, it is missing some of that punch, the firecracker attachment helps a bunch though.

I’ve only played the game with knives because the guns were just too cursed.

​@@TepidtamalesNice. Now I'm gonna do a bare knuckle run. Must. One. Up. You.

Also, most of the gun designs are interpretations from the tabletop game. The original tabletop game was released in 1988 when Mike pondsmith was 34. The game isn’t really based off of our future either as it’s based off of a split and fictionalized timeline starting in the 1980s and has the Soviet Union not collapse (I believe it’s still around in 2077) and has the USA basically completely fall apart after a nuclear war. The future of this world is based off of a vastly different history than ours.

In the unlikely event you didn't already find your answer, I believe it's the AWSC - Advanced Weapon Stat Customization mod. It gives you a full settings menu to change cycle rate, number of rounds in a mag, effective range and so on for every weapon in the game.

@tryveliek7799 thank you brother

@@tryveliek7799 Holy shit thanks brother

which is funny since birdshot is worse at long range

"B-but they have subdermal armor!" Lol

It is technically possible to load an MP without doing so, but its harder to do. Something to do with the way the bolt operates iirc

@@AedanTheGrey I think it's just an oversight with H&K, which you'd think would've set some warning bells of before it was heavily adopted but it's possible it's oversight for the fact the MP can chew through ammo

Unfortunately not. They don't use a single cartridge morph-target with each variant being a morph key. Instead they have separate meshes for bullets (e.g. bullet_a.mesh,) and casings (bullet_shell_a.mesh). There are a, b and c variants. In a few instances, they mix and match them and they don't fit.

The guillotine is labeled as only slightly better than bringing a knife to a gunfight

I agree. definitely doesn't deserve to be anywhere near F.A.R.T The HGM definitely does with that clip line tho

@@runback_1258 That makes me wonder, aren't wiki's written by fans? So that line must've been written by a fan, right?

@@AshenVanguard yes, the Cyberpunk wiki is on Fandom, which is, as its name implies, a website for fans of fandoms

on PC it's holding the weapon button (1 2 3, 4 if you have arm cyberware) that isn't your currently selected weapon in order to trigger the inspect animation

@@puzzlefischer1205 for me i just gotta hold B on my keyboard

Definitely, i even mapped the holster button onto mouse 4 for the sake of convenience

Except that all guns that accept attachments use MLOK and Picattiny rails and 1/2x28 threaded barrells. Not even remotely similar to power tools 😂😂

@@absolutelybarbarictv5638except this game is set in a world where a mayor was killed because he wanted to make corporations pay 1% tax. I wouldn’t put it past the gun manufacturers to make everything proprietary in 2077

@@absolutelybarbarictv5638 now let me introduce you to this neat idea called "fiction"

@@absolutelybarbarictv5638 this is a fictional world, doesn't need to follow what is true in real world