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Nah he’s right. College football isn’t what it used to be. Regionality made it great and the greedy tv corporations decided college students needed to travel 100,000 miles a year so they can get ratings lol

He's keeping his eyes closed because he knows the next step is reducing deadweight teams from the B1G.

usc ucla is a big rivalry....

Iowa and Iowa state have been doing this forever now so it could work

Yes it will make it harder for teams like mine Michigan and for osu but because of the 12 team playoffs it will make the landing softer. I can't wait. Welcome to the B1G

I mean the conference is dead they'll be without jobs soon regardless.

What is it you think they could have done? This was set in motion way before them, and they didn't have the choice on USC and UCLA demanding a bigger cut of the money than the rest of the schools. When as a conference you don't listen to your biggest brands at all, this is the result. They found a better home where they can competitively fund their athletics department. Then the other schools wanted to make the same mistake when their new most important members wanted a bigger money share, so they had to do the same or else be relegated to tier 2 status with the leftover Big 12. They'd have been stupid to not just join the Big Ten and the PAC commissioner had no way to stop them.

@@johnwatsoniv384 I didn’t mean try to fix it by convincing USC/UCLA to stay. I meant fixing by preparing for the worst. Invite new members to create a brand new PAC12 look. The Big12 almost got dissolved when Missouri, TX A&M, TX, OU bolted to the SEC. The Big12 immediately invited new members to keep the conference together. The PAC12 should have immediately immediately invites new schools. Instead they sat around a whole year doing nothing & got jumped in line by the Big12 for a new TV deal.

It’s official. Their going to on a plane all year doing homework 😂😂😂

​@@user-do4ue7di7hNaw, not really. Had this been 20 years ago or even 10 shit like school work, homework, or even classes, it might be difficult to impossible, but with advancements in technologies and communications, it's not gonna be a problem or at least, not a big enough problem to matter. I think with some of the other sports their will be bigger hurdles to jump but I think that those issues will have been thought through before offers made and accepted. And I think those issues would have relatively been worked out. Whatever the case I don't believe things are going to be as terrible or untenable as some make it out to be.

Not really

@@jordanjones4587explain why they're not? Explain what you mean not really

​@@richardcelino9173he can't sec troll

@@stevesalisbury3657😂😂😂😂😂

It's a win, because they were both stuck on the Pactanic. It was a loss for tradition.

Agreed. Not only that, but, the new streaming deal the PAC 12 was offered, is still less than what the Big Ten can offer these two schools, even at a bargain price. Oregon and Washington even at the offer of half of what USC and UCLA will receive, is still almost 20 million dollars more than the new Apple TV contract could offer them. At the end of the day, Money Talks.

I would like to see Stanford and Cal join them. B1G would have some sort of Pacific pod/sub-division with Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA -- helps with travel and scheduling, each team has a natural rival there, and if the B1G still cares about academics, you bring 2 absolutely world-class universities into the fold.

I normally like his takes but this is bad. I get from Illinois point of view this is bad, they just added likely losses to their schedule to teams they have no interest in playing. As an Oregon fan, if they keep the Civil War as a non-confirm game then Oregon will keep the rivalries I care most about. Wash, USC and new ones will grow as we play Mich, Ohio St. I did like the Standford rivalry but that was mostly because they were the only other good team for a bit.

@brandonjordan4596 I think the Apple Cup and Civil War will still be played yearly. Washington and Oregon need their own rivalry game because me being a Husky I hate the Ducks more than anyone

And East and West.

@@luc-rikardofils6673 Let the dust settle, and we'll be stuck with the big 4 conferences for the next decade or so. Then when the next round of TV contracts comes up in about ten years or so, we'll see the ACC and Big 12 broken up and divided between the BIG 10 and SEC.

How do Cal and Stanford join the Big Ten when they're not invited? The Big Ten has everything it wants from that side of the Mississippi except Texas, so now the focus is on ACC schools. The SEC will most likely not make any moves right now because they don't have hardly any moves left to make. They got Texas and now they don't have anywhere to expand into that gives them a larger footprint or more money than what they're already getting. The Big Ten has the chance to expand into all the biggest Southern states besides Texas by raiding the ACC, and it already contains the biggest states outside of the Southeast within its footprint now. The SEC can only expand to add more good football teams and block the Big Ten from getting those teams, but in the process they will hurt their existing members by creating less revenue to distribute per school, which will create a gap between the Big Ten's money and theirs. If they don't block the Big Ten though, the effect is the same because the Big Ten will expand into all these areas with lots of people (and good amounts of transplanted Big Ten fans) and that will make its media deals more valuable. The SEC also can't take ACC schools unless enough of those schools vote to dissolve the GOR so they can leave. They'd need to take on a lot of teams they don't want or work with another conference to gather up 7 or 8 programs that wanna leave so they can win that vote. The SEC also has to contend with the fact that these schools are going to have a chance at more money in the Big Ten than the SEC, and many of them are AAU schools that would make even more money working with the Big Ten universities on that than they ever will with sports.

@@johnwatsoniv384 it will happen.

Last time we had to choose between North and South things got ugly...

I think -- I'm hoping, at least -- that Stanford and Cal are invited pretty soon. Certainly could be things about the money that I don't understand, but in pretty much every other way, Stanford and Cal are a good fit. And for what it's worth in terms of people who actually give a damn about football in the Bay Area, you _do_ get the Bay Area, and that's a lot of people.

I hope not,I'd rather go after clemson,miami,notre dame,Florida state.

@@stevesalisbury3657 It'd be interesting to get FSU/Miami/Clemson. It's gonna be hard with those grant of rights issues though unless they find a loophole out of it.

@@stevesalisbury3657 - Clemson + FSU + Miami = $360 million USD in penalties that needs to be coughed up by someone, yes? Notre Dame isn't interested, apparently.

I hope B1G get Wazzu and Beavers they’re good programs with great fan bases def better than Nike U fans

good for them....love there coach and there program

Yeah CFB rivalries are big casualties of realignment. It's all about the 💰!

The annual in-state rivalry games don't necessarily have to end. Iowa vs. Iowa State; Florida vs. Florida State; Georgia vs. Georgia Tech, etc

@@emeryjl Some will continue, but others won't. I guess the Rose Bowl will now be the B1G vs at large.

​@@redsentertainmentsportsNah, I think the Rose Bowl will permanently be a part of the playoffs especially with the expansion to 12 teams, etc.

There is a good chance the SEC will still have a lock on the top players. It seems like GA, Bama, LSU tend to have the top players year after year.

​@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 The SEC has a lock on the players in their territories. But the new TV deal will benefit the Big10 with some elite prospects. They will be able to offer players a lot of media exposure since they have 3 time zones and games airing on 3 different networks. And the Big10 now controls almost all the media markets outside the South. So they will be competitive on the recruiting front.

@@scratchpenny In theory. Right now Saban, Smart and others in the Sec have getting players from all over, especially CA. I'm not sure that is going to change immediately.

@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 I agree. Probably not immediately, but the Big10 does have very wealthy schools and favorable media markets. After all, the biggest-rated non-bowl game of the year is already consistently Michigan vs Ohio State. With them adding so many Western schools, it will likely benefit them down the road with recruiting. This is why everyone in the media is saying that it's already essentially just two conferences - SEC and Big10 - because that's the only conferences where the vast majority of the top prospects will go. In the near future, we will see that NIL and media markets will affect college football significantly. It's already happening. And it will mean traditions and loyalty won't exist for top prospects. Right now, guys like Saban and Smart have brands that can be relied upon to draw/keep recruits, but that can only last for as long as they're around. The CFB expansion will help increase the media exposure and fortunes of the top 15-20 programs. So amongst the top schools, I think there will be more recruiting parity than in recent years. But the gap between the haves and have-nots is going to drastically widen.

@@scratchpenny Totally agree with what you said about the NIL shaking things up and maybe evening things out. After all, USC's run in 2003-2005 was due to their "proto-NIL" practices. 😏 As for the SEC it has proven itself as THE "NFL training ground" since Saban arrived. That in itself is a huge brand and a sell for the absolute best players in the country. Clemson, Michigan, Ohio State, and maybe Oklahoma being the exceptions in certain years. I agree with you...what's here is here and there are really only two conferences. Which is sad for my old butt because I still miss the days when Nebraska and OU used to run the Big 8.

We hardly knew yee..

Yeah thats because USC and UCLA left them and the conference. They had no choice when things started crumbling. WA and oregon were talking to the big 10 a year ago too...

im gonna miss playing utah...go ducks

it sucks but it was all in the p12 leadership...total mismanagement...the commissionaire made more money then usc and oregon....paid MILLIONS just to keep the head office in the bay area.....why? its on and on...i do not blame any of the schools for leaving

i like it

he was largely right....and this is coming form someone who likes that the Big 10 is expanding and think it will add popularity to the sport in general....but I still think he is largely correct on the points he made

@@nweeezy I don't...

BASKETBALL: 18 Teams works the same way by being tied to your partner who you play twice a year and then you play everyone else once = 16 Teams = 18 Conferece Games, so far. Then to make it 20 Conference Games, GONZAGA and UCONN are added for Basketball and other Sports. Now, EVERYONE plays GONZAGA and UCONN both one time a year and GONZAGA and UCONN play eachother twice! Giving the first Conference with 20 Teams and 18 Teams for Football.

I wonder if they'd consider kicking schools out.

Huh? Rutgers doesn't have a big fan base, but it is in the NYC media market. With UCLA and USC the Big 10 has footprints in the NYC, Chicago, and LA markets. "Conferences" are nothing more than media conglomerates anymore.

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Me too, as michigsn fan I love more competition, tired of sec acting like they play hard schedules.michigan vs those 4 teams excite me,tired of season revolving around osu game

@@stevesalisbury3657and if Oregon and Washington accept and fsu and Clemson go to the big10 the sec might actually have legitimate competition

2 9-team division and play 1 cross division game.

Hmm I'm a Cal fan myself, but a bit pessimistic. I think the Big 10 will want to add Notre Dame and Stanford. Cal could "possibly" be given a lifeline at some point by the Big 12. Cal is definitely in an awkward spot, since it doesn't really fit culturally with the Big 12, and it's "too big" for the Mountain West.

@@DARKSEID76 if Notre Dame ends up in the Big10 then yes Cal is screwed. But if not, I can definitely see them going over with Stanford just due to their academics and it’ll add more balance to the conference on the west coast.

@@donjuan914 I definitely hope that's the case lol.

And sec is the afc

I said nfc more big10 and sec more afc but yeah

NO....the pac 12 commissioner killed the p12

NO....stupidity in the p12 leadership killed the p12

I hope you remember this comment this time next year.

Oregon isn't ranked high and does little research

@@andrewmueller9986 no one cares

@@willl7780 just stating facts not saying anyone cares

only dip shits are looking at this from an academic standpoint...this is about football nothing more@@andrewmueller9986