EVERYTHING You Should Know About Safer Seas In Sea of Thieves 

It shouldnt be hard to just make a seperate pve gamemode without shared stats…

naw thats boring

@@jjeff5095maybe for you

@@jjeff5095 you play on your exciting server then, other people play on the boring server. Everyone wins.

that's also my prediction. Once they see the player numbers (and ancient coin purchases) Safer Seas is pulling, it'll be their primary focus away from High Seas.

I agree, this fanbase is so toxic and full of pvp enforcer fascists, these players never touch grass

Boooooorrring!!!

“Always huge assholes” is code for better players who are being pirates IN A FUCKING PIRATE GAME.

""That's a pirate game" is a lazy ass excuse for people to behave like jerks. In fact, pirates rarely sank other ships because it was incredibly expensive and dangerous. Trading ships were boarded and then plundered, but sinking them was rare. Even hijacking was more of an exception. Most gold was earned through smuggling and simple transport trips. That's the historical part. Every time you start and head to the exit door, there's a little note with a code of conduct for the game, ever read it? You should, then you would know that it's just a damn game and EVERYONE is supposed to have fun with it. No one has a problem with PVP when it happens respectfully. What makes people quit are those who deliberately target smaller crews, chase and sink them, and insult them until they switch servers or stop playing. Just think before you post something. People like you are only afraid that eventually there won't be players left to treat like dirt, simply because they can, and then this game wouldn't be fun for YOU anymore. And this fact says a lot about you and the player base.@@49HEALTH

@@49HEALTH no it’s assholes, anyone who gets enjoyment from ruining others experiences is an asshole. And your so against a private server because the only players you’ll run across are those who want to sink people too, and they’ll be just as good. And they won’t have much loot either because they’ll be in a server full of lazy people only out to sink people. And that’s called karma, and the fact that safer seas is even a thing is because there’s a flaw with the game, if there wasn’t safer seas wouldn’t even be a thing, and that’s fact

I paid for my game, let me play it how i want ​@49HEALTH

Dude it’s not fun to fight people who only want to fight. This makes tucking worst, ambushes worst, reapers will be harder, etc. This game will be a snooze fest on one side and a sweat fest on the other side. That is not fun.

​@@49HEALTH too bad you're way of having fun (bothering people and being toxic) isn't the only way of having fun. Maybe you should play another game. Like call of duty or something. This game has pve content and atmosphere and stories. It's not just a pvp game.

@@piercemchugh4509 yes cuz stealing loot, tucking, etc in a PVP PIRATE GAME is toxic. 1000 iq you got there. Also, I want to get away from the sweatiness in games. Playing cod won’t help. The amount of times I’ve been called toxic for simply stealing loot IN A PVP PIRATE GAME is baffling to me. You guys need to play animal crossing and stop ruining a game us REAL PIRATES love.

once they devs see the overwhelming number of Safer Seas players compared to High Seas, they will inevitably release more updates that cater to Safer Seas because that's where the profit is. It might take a while, but I'm very sure they'll eventually allow ship cosmetics in safer seas.

Yeah, I think a lot of people undersimate how many players just want a chill game session. For a lot of players fighting megs, skelly ships, kraken, doing skull forts and solving riddles or delivering cargo is plenty. I look forward to both honestly. High Seas will have more PvP than ever when I'm feeling like being a sweat lord but there are times when I just want to relax and fish or go do some pve stuff. Now I have a place to do either!

if your that bad at pvp you don’t even need to be playing 😭

@@jordanc6736 If *YOU'RE* * that bad at grammar you shouldn't type.

Lol

​@@Brimst0ne_XBlegend

Absolutely! I don't care about slower progress! The fact that I can play without being hassled is enough for me.

and that 30% is still 300% more than I'm able to bring back when sailing with other players. =/

Didn't you know most of the pvp player base thinks we don't spend money in the emporium lol we probably spend the most

Yep. Come december, people will start to realise how many people just want PVE.

This. Honestly this.

100% this. Sea of Thieves was fun. Getting stalked by some sweats who only cared about violence when you just wanted an evening goofing around with friends after work was not, and never was. "Git gud" was all the most vocal 'fans' could parrot over and over. So fuck 'em.

@@TechbotALPHA It's Sea of Thieves, not Sea of Peace; half of the fun of the game is the Risk/Reward. The other half is interactions with other players. Whether you like it or not, it's the game. If you want to play a Pirate game with PVE servers and mass multiplayer experiences, go play Atlas. Either that or be content with your Safer Seas alternative when it comes out. At the end of the day; the safer seas mode should be looked at as Sea of Thieves Lite; for players wanting to learn the basics of the game.

Yeah, Sea of THIEVES. Not Sea of Murder Hobos. It's not the one that hunt you for your loot that are annoying. But 90 percent of the times the ones attacking don't care for your loot but just want to kill you and harass you about not beeing as sweaty as them in a video game. I have no problem being attacked sometimes from crews that actually have the goal to STEAL your loot. But that's not their goal most of the time. Sadly I see no solution for having an actual full server of players and not having one or 2 ships just having the goal to ruin others fun

@@deathstarjacko Pirates weren't exactly the friendliest bunch either, nor can I really say I've ever personally experienced being 'harassed' in an online game. If your loot isn't being taken, I don't see much of an issue; just juggle boxes in the water after they've sank you. Though if we're being honest, we both know that nobody's sinking you, only to leave your loot floating about in the water. You should have no problem being attacked by anyone, at anytime. Everything in the game is solely for cosmetics, there is no real setback to being sunk beyond a time sink, and so long as you've enjoyed your time and looked at the game in the perspective of the "journey being more important than its end." You'll have plenty of fun in current Sea of Thieves. Your loot isn't yours until you've sold it, and you should always be prepared to lose it.

🎯🎯🎯

Yeah! I loved making friends in Sea of Thieves. No matter how other players opened I always waved or started playing an instrument. Even forced hostile players to join my alliance by blasting them with cannons while screaming "Will you be my friend now?" Unfortunately the PvP just isn't fun to me, and worrying about players spotting or sinking my ship kept me anxious while I just wanted to have an adventure.

Nope. People want to PVE in peace WITHOUT other people. We've been saying this since 2018.

thanks lud

Safer Seas literally gets rid of other players so you can get loot in peace but with the downside of only getting 30% of the reward.

Rock&stone brother

Much better for the overall health of SoT. The main reason I left was PvP, it isn't fun for me.

@@Slothiz I usually like PVP but Sea of Thieves PVP sucks no headshot damage multiplier, crappy hit registration, lack of weapons, lack of a basic perk system to customize your fighting style, and that "getting good" is literally just learning to glitch exploit. Its as barebones as you can get when it comes to combat the only saving grace is the ship to ship fighting.

@@happyjohn354 Here is why SoT pvp sucks. Ship 1, takes 6 hours and does activities, random crew of friends just having fun and doing pve stuff. Ship 2, 2 hardcore sloop white sail pvpers gets sunk 14 times, but still somehow manages to win the loot, after respawning and returning to the fight several times. Ship 2 spends 1 hour doing this, to win 7 hours worth of loot. SoT Favors pvp and death means almost nothing.

It will be great for PvP players as well. I argued about this with Falcore in his chat years ago when he insisted PvE servers would "NEVER" happen. High Seas will be full of good players looking for real fights. It will be great for content creators a and anyone who genuinely wants good PvP encounters. The only people who lose in this update are the people who deserve to lose. The toxic ego maniacs who only want to stack a team of legends for the soul purpose of tormenting casual or newer players. You know who I'm talking about. Those guys aren't real PvP players. They don't want any kind of competition. Well, now those losers are going to get fed to actual good players who can respect other good players when they get sunk. It's about to be the worst experience ever for all the bullies and I can't wait to hear them complaining in comments and chats. Best decision Rare has made for the community since letting us opt out of crossplay.

@@Brimst0ne_XB Falcore said it would never happen because Rare said it would never happen.

Sounds cool, but there is a Reward for taking out a reaper, there flag sells for a lot at reapers, Also a anti reaper faction would just turn into a different PvP faction for you to worry about.

safer seas are private pve servers that are coming

It's cause they are in the seas, you have to swim pretty deep.

@@middlemonster oh ok

If the devs could do this, they would get rid of PVE altogether and endlessly grief anyone who even remotely wants to PVE. The devs ABSOLUTELY HATE PVE. They only put it in so they had someone to steal from. Safer Seas is only being introduced because Microsoft is forcing them to. Otherwise they wouldn't even consider it. The insane restrictions are proof they hate it.

@spankyjeffro5320 I can see where you are coming from, but pvp is a core part of the gameplay loop for sea of thieves. The game was designed around player interaction. Both cooperative and competitive. Whether or not they did a good job in how they incorporated the player interaction is a story for another time. Safer seas are designed to be a place for new players to find thier bearings and also a place for people to do things such as tall tales without player interference. It's because of the safety these servers will provide that restrictions on your profit are needed as that wouldn't be fair for somebody who took no risk to earn the same as somebody who did. However making only 12% of what you could on high seas seems a little to much to me. And this is even worse if you factor in things such as gold rush and gold and glory which safer seas won't have. I think just making safer seas a barebones experience with no emmisary flags or bonuses would suffice.

same I have been looking for a reason to come back but with all the downsides i just cant. I rather have infinite fog or something than no pirate legend or fort of the damned

I always just hit a sea fort or two. Unless they nerfed them recently, I haven't played in a bit

Basically it's a ship that can only be customized by you and you can name it

seriously. if u have to stop youtube for college and work and mental health, you don’t have that 9-5 grind set that REAL entrepreneurs like me have

@@user-kr2gq9gv9i yeah whatever happened to just believing every ailment was the devil's work. I hate the future, people care to much about each other and wanted to be happy. Just be miserable all the time, like my great great great grandfather who died of infection from a leech put on his head to stop a headache.

you can, you just can’t exceed level 40 in levels

@@wornoutsneaker So you just don't get any experience towards increasing in levels then? Well that's stupid.

Its sea of thieves, a pirate game What do pirates do ppl, they blow up ships with their cannons, it's the way of game, if y'all can't accept that, stick to Minecraft and fortnight

I just wont solo emissary anymore tho

december

you already have private servers right? (or can't you invite people there?)

nuh uh We can use insider but I got banned from it and you can't use it anymore bec of quick swap 😞

true

Yeah thats a huge let down

definitely. and at 30% rate is pretty low

Why does this even bother anyone? There is no progression in this game. All of the big rewards are just achievements for bragging rights. If you are playing solo/pve only, who the f even cares about this stuff. The best thing about Sea of Thieves is it's core content and gameplay, the rewards are just added bonuses, I honestly don't care about cosmetics/titles, so the lower rewards mean nothing to me. I don't play OW2, L4D2 or Garry's mod for the "rewards/progression" I just like having a fun time with friends. Also, most of the higher rank and PVP events are just recycled tasks. Everything you can do in PVP will be doable in PVE, it won't look as fancy or be as challenging (maybe), but you are essentially doing the same tasks, fighting mobs, sinking skips, digging up/collecting loot and turning in your haul. If anything, people will be encourage to grab every piece of loot they can find, rather than stuff that's "worth it" and maybe over time that 30% will seem like more than you get in PVP cause it's consistent and mostly risk free.

@@middlemonster It'll encourage hoarding a bunch of treasure on the ship because you don't have to worry about players coming and sinking you for it I wager, and turning it all in.

@@RaxusXeronos only problem with massive loot stacking is the painful turn in rate, since captaincy isn't available, which means no soverigns

@@ItsFelix_ I don't have captaincy anyway.

I hope so. It'd give me a reason to return to it.

@@Slothiz it will be a slow process of transformation

If they had PVE only servers from the get go, no one would have ever complained, their player base would be much larger and the rewards in PVE servers would have been 100%. But things like PVP achievements/events would be for PVP only servers. If they had just done this in the beginning, there wouldn't have been such a massive exodus of players after the first few months. Their player base would have stayed higher and it would have generated more sales over time. But now that they are giving less rewards (which is not new player friendly) it's likely they won't get many new players. More like old players who already own the game or play via Game Pass. The reason SoT is THE game for trolls/degenerates is because it's massively popular on Twitch and the devs are simps for their Twitch Streamers.

@@middlemonster SoT should have been by everyone and for everyone. from my very modest point of view they have followed a very questionable path from the beginning. SoT, ironically, adapts much more to PvE than to PvP. They could have told thousands of stories through missions given by NPCs but instead they designed a beautiful but empty world. I hope that the direction taken by the developers will lead to a game like this over time... but as I was saying, the road will be very long and perhaps when it happens it won't interest anyone anymore.

I greatly doubt this. The entire concept of the game is you are a pirate on the seas with other pirates. It’s entire concept is built around being a filthy pirate and stealing riches by any means necessary. It’s the same reason why all progression is cosmetic because otherwise this would make anyone who plays more have an advantage and kill the entire concept all together. This mode is very cleary a way to let people dip their toes into the game instead of just being tossed in and leaving immediately. No one complained about people wanting PvE because they dislike it, but it simply isn’t the game’s design. Where this mode makes perfect sense however is with their crossover tall tales they add to draw people in and now they can start up the game in a contained environment to do that content.

I fundamentally disagree. Firstly, I believe that removing all the caps on safer seas would remove piracy from this game. There would be no reason to collect loot in high seas, when safer seas is right there with the same rewards.(Risk vs. Reward, when the Reward is the same why take the Risk.) Secondly, I believe due to there being no reason to collect loot on high seas, due to the above mentioned reason, the players who wish to pirate people would simply leave. This would cause more decline in the player base. Thirdly, I believe that the PvE players would eventually realize that everything in the game is pointless, with only cosmetic progression(kinda turning the game into another job), and they wouldn't gain skill progression either due to the lack of any real threats, making them increase their skill. This would lead to one of two consequences in my mind. The PvE players would leave after a while, because of the lack of any real rewards(I truely believe that the feeling of escaping with your hard fought treusure is better any Reward you gain from it), or Rare would practically change their game from a live service game, to a single/co-op experience, by catering to the only audience they have left. BUT that is just my opinion tbh I'm a random dude that likes this game idk the future if a change were to happen.

@@DepressedIcecream I can realize that point, and I think it’s just doomed to fail because of what it is unfortunately. Player base is declining still after the influx of players trying out safer seas and its back to steady decline. I loved the game, it’s great and I’ll always remember it as such, but they didn’t add anything to stop from becoming fodder, and that’s all new players are and all the ones coming back to try it out. My friends have given up and so have I. I do believe PvE games can be successful, I mean look at helldivers 2 no PvP whatsoever. But I know it’s a pirate game, and people will want some PvP. How to balance that and make it work I don’t have the answer, all I do know is half wants PvP and half wants PvE.

@Kindly_1 To your first point of the game being doomed to fail. I am assuming you mean the declining player based due to in your opinion the skill gap and PvPvE problems, but I disagree. I think the "drop in player count"(I dont think the drop is really that bad the game is still alive I just think it feels empty due to less ships per server) Is mainly due to the content drought, not PvP vs. PvE.

@Kindly_1 Also, I do agree that Co-op multi player games can be and are successful, but I don't think SoT would be SoT without that PvP element to it. I love the looming threat of PvP over all my PvE, because it makes me feel alive, and when I do sell that loot I gained the feeling turns into joy and feeling like I just snuck through everything to get there. Good luck, and even though you said you won't play this game again, I do wish to see you on the seas.

@@DepressedIcecream it’s not an opinion it’s based off the survey and reports on their discord/website/Reddit and so forth which google can provide those links. And I get that PvP is a risk factor, but there’s no risk involved when your caught. And the fact that reapers at level 3 get to see you anywhere and come sink you is actually the most toxic and disgusting mechanic I have seen a game implement ever. It’s don’t get caught and your good which (this is where my actual opinion begins) is just boring and pretty depressing one you get a person on board or a hole in your ship. That’s when it’s forced PvP. And me and my friends as well as half the player base holds that opinion, and there’s no majority PvP advocating it’s just the other half. So they get to play no worries while the other half plays other games, that’s why it would be better to be an option because maybe once people could unlock (like everything) then they could try and battle) but sorry it’s just too much time investment to ask someone to stockpile ammo and food and wood while looting and navigating when players demand 100% attention. An Npc enemy you can at least have a breath. Real players you can’t, it’s attrition or numbers and that’s about it. They either need to rework the combat or their game will die, it hasn’t leveled out and the decline chart isn’t leveling off either. That’s what the stats say and that’s what it will be until a real fix.

Nope. Just face it. PVE'ers don't want you or anyone else in their game. They don't want to game with you. PVP'ers are a toxic minority.

pog

MANGE COMMENT!

MANGO WATERBED! Why are you yelling nonsense?

No noobs to kill getting old?

@@briancox-zi4mp a 70% cut is not enough people will still go play safer seas, i'm not caring about new players, but about old players that will stop playing high seas, i love pvevp, and i think this will split the community, pve players will go play safer seas and pvp players will go play high seas/hourglass

Its better than nothing your expecting too much from a PvP Community who is up in arms and pandering to the Devs to keep this N o PvE Server crap from happening. But sure quit find a different pirate game As if you ever will.

@@Rairosu Mate I couldn't give less of a fuck about the SoT "community". It's a video game. If I can't enjoy playing the damned video game with the people I want to play it with without being constantly harrassed by morons screaming "Allah akbar" like a bunch of edgy little twats then it's a game that isn't worth my time and wasn't worth my money. You like PvP so much? Great. Good for you. The ability for _others_ to play PvE doesn't take anything away from you. You'll still have your toy and you'll still have plenty of other toxic ass holes to play with. Behaving like an entitled dick towards people who don't want to be forced to play on open servers full of toxic ass holes only drives down player numbers and shortens the game's life span. SoT, being live service, will die. Just a matter of how long that takes. If you really give a damn about the longevity of your precious "pirate game" then you'd want to _attract_ players, not alienate them. Adding private servers will not stop you from playing on open ones and will certainly not result in no one for you to fight. You'll just be less likely to encounter people who don't _want_ to fight. As for the whole "iT's A pIrAtE gAmE!" argument: Pirates did not sink most of the ships they encountered out of the blue. Fun fact: Chests full of gold do not actually _float_ and they don't magically bob back to the surface for your convenience after you sent the ship that was carrying them to the bottom of the ocean. When playing the merchant ship is less valuable than just sinking every ship you see and waiting for the cargo to pop back to the surface then who the hell is going to play the merchant? When every ship on the sea is a pirate, what's the damned point? It's not a "pirate game", it's just a free for all with a coat of pirate paint.

Definitely, I guess the PvE lords are rejoicing. I quit the game a while ago but it's sad to see what the game is becoming.

People said the exact same thing when arena got yeeted. Didn't die back then and won't die now. If anything this only appeals to a larger audience.

@@flagrus7901 except that was just a gamemode being removed. THIS is going against the entire concept of the game, and destroying a large chunk of the community just to please the whining children

ah yes a NEW 100% optional mode for NEW playes. logic. the game will die.

@@Tim42161 you don't understand the effect it will bring