God of War Ragnarok Valhalla has a ton of moments where Kratos addresses his past! Here is Every moment he does! Follow me on Twitter!- Twitter.com/jonford543 Discord for God of War Fans!- / discord Support me PLEASE- / @jonford
jon, the next time you get in touch with sms, please ask them to add leg armours in the next game. kinda pisses me off me that we can go maximum drip from the waist up but then we're stuck with the default pants and boots.
My favorite moment is where Kratos talks/yells at his past self coming to terms with what he was and what he will be. I know most people were expecting a boss fight but to me it would have been a bit strange given how different the gameplay is compared to the old.
The fact is that Kratos can freely talk to Mimir about his past already indicates that Kratos fully trust Mimir´s presence at all time, despite him being just a head.
Because Mimir is one of those few ppl who genuinely like Kratos and understands him. Also he knows when to stop talking and just listen. He’s basically a true bro to Kratos.
2 Broken men who have made many a mistake and furthered some of the worst agendas of their time in the service of selfish self serving gods. Yea can't see why they'd relate at all.
Fun Fact Great acts of strength often require QTEs in God of War. The greater the feat the more QTEs with killing gods mostly requiring 2 iirc. Kratos having to leave his daughter behind requires 3. It took everything in that man to leave her
@HanyaPanya444 it was. He always loved his families. Especially his children. Even though we didn't see much of it: we saw how that love fueled his rage into grief because someone wanted to mess with his family. Hell he carved through several armies just to get a cure for his sick child or else she would be killed.
I just love the meta narrative of Kratos lamenting over having the boat captain's death follow him no matter where he goes and that being the one joke that appears in EVERY God of War game.
The first playthrough i did of this it took me right up until the end to realize that Tyr basically putting Kratos through therapy to literally face his past. All through the backdrop of Valhalla where the dead have to reconcile their lives before they move on, meaning Kratos literally put his past to rest Thats some deep shit
ya . i think tyr wants kratos to take his place as god of war . also do they have that device they can travel to other pantheons. also kratos vs tyr. tyr used most egypt so it’ll prob be a egypt ane
@@FearFxlthere are 4 possible realms. There is a side mission in Ragnarok when you find 6 treasure that belongs to Tyr. 4 of them indicates one posible realm You have Egyptian (the Egyptian cross). The kila dagger (Indian), janbiya (Arabic sword) and the special sculpture (Maya). So at least in god of war series those realm exists. The other two treasure are a music instrument (Greece) and a Fertilty God (Czech Republic) Personally I think Egyptian gods would be interesting but personally a Maya world would be great, there are some crazy gods While
This shit was obvious and lazy 10 minutes in. At least with 2018 it was subtle, fight talk fight talk fight talk is so boring. 2018 had subtle actions like when Atreus was sick kratos wasn’t “I think the urgency of Atreus being sick is important because he is my son, this feeling won’t go away until Atreus feels better. I must be infected as well as my son” Everyone would be making memes out of it I don’t know how people haven’t memed this dlc yet
I noticed how Tyr was kind of a therapist when he first discovered after Ragnarok, from some dialogue between him and Freya. How he said he could feel her love for her home and assured her that she did do something to help make things better. If anyone is gonna help Sindri, it’s gonna be Tyr. I can see them crossing paths at some point.
Bruh I loved this DLC I been playing GOW since I was 10 years old now 23 and this was just the perfect love letter to those game while continuing Kratos story I just wish young kratos and old kratos had a dialogue except kratos monologue at the end
It would be cool to see them talk, but I feel it would ultimately take away from our current Kratos development. He did need to speak to himself not his actual past self but how he perceives his past self and that is lost with another voice chiming in. Plus there is no way younger kratos would listen
I think that was done on purpose. Instead of allowing the past to speak to him, he finally stands up against it and speaks from the heart, and not the mind. He doesn't allow the past to taunt him any longer, he finally accepts it and learns to move on, to do better.
True, but due to the context of that one, they probably didn’t want to bring that one up. Tossing a boat captain to his death just because he could doesn’t sound nearly as bad as using what was likely a sex slave to keep a door up before letting it crush her to death
@@ryanmoore6259 i guess, but thats kinda the same logic that he used for the captain. Though, I guess the message could be repetative if they used the Princess. Idunno
There seems to be relief in his voice when he mentions no longer remembering Calliope's song. While he still has sad memories of Calliope, those no longer haunt him through that song.
Yeah i had no idea that he talks about her in the game. So sad. He had to sacrifice his time with her in order to save her. If he had stayed, both he and she will die along with the rest of the underworld by the goddess. The fact that you (as kratos) had to keep pushing her away was so messed up. Yikes im gettin teary lmao
At first, I was really curious how they would justify Kratos taking on another Pantheon after this, considering all he's gone through. But now I think I know. He basically has become a God of Hope, so what he does is bringing hope to other lands by taking down the other pantheons that causes their suffering like he did Greece and Midgard.
my guess is he'd face their pantheons to either liberate any tyranny going on through them, or as a trial to make sure they're ready for any threats, possibly justify giving him new weapons with the sense of "face me to earn the strength to seek peace"
@@MKW-oc8fji think faye changed destiny twice she probably rejected the one who was supposed to be loki father (vaguely described in the prose edda as being the "rageful striker" funnily enough), meaning loki wouldn't be born in time to be part of many of the old myths, the wolf that eats tyr hand isn't fenrir, mjolnir creation wasn't interfered by loki, and hellheim wasn't governed by his daughter hela instead faye decided to fight the gods herself, and that is where we get the leviathan axe she didn't manage to succeed in that part, and new prophecies would keep getting created, thats where the prophecies of ragnarok probably appeared and odin attempted to kill all giants during the first game multiple characters say that the signs of the beginning of ragnarok are happening ahead of schedule, probably because faye sent kratos and atreius on their journey way earlier then it was supposed to happen
It’s sad to admit that this dlc brought me more resolution then any therapist did. I committed many sins to those that I love. Instead of letting go, when I could at least look ay myself in the mirror, I held onto that pain. It’s time to let go.
Same here I’ve learned so much from this current kratos people make mistakes sometimes they’re so fucked up we feel like we can never move on from them but we can and we will, I know this is a fictional story but its message still stands
@@klebin8241 Such a path is not for everyone, but however fruitless the endeavor might seem, we must have hope that it is possible for even us. Don't give up brother, I have hope that you'll make it, because I believe in the good that resides in you, regardless of how small or seemingly weak it may be. Why? Simple, because you wish for it to be so, you desire it enough to wish it. What that tells me is that you have the potential to change and become a better version of you, the you that you want to be, that you choose to be. And only you can achieve that. So don't give up, have hope instead.
I’ve held onto a lot of pain in my lifetime. My biological father was an arrogant, secretive, selfish, childish fool. My mom divorced him back in 2017, but he left an eternal scar that felt like it couldn’t heal, a void. When I confronted him, reminded him of the man that he became, he walked away from me. Then afterwards, I became bitter. Why? Because I held onto a lot of rage towards my actual father. He never gave me or my family closure. He ruined me. By the time I moved out for the first time, I felt like I was turning into him, a fiend, a fool. I was lost. It was to the point where my friends, those that I knew for years, were scared. However, it wasn’t until my mom and my stepdad got me back on the right path. Now, after so long, I finally feel like myself again and I see my struggles as a lesson. Never turn into someone u truly despise, or someone that other people could despise or else you’ll lose everything and everyone u love, and you’ll become a shadow of your former self. A monster. Be better. We must be better.
There’s a part where he talks about his fight with Hercules. When asked if he regrets it, Kratos said no since he was dangerous and wanted to be God of War for every reason but the right one
This DLC really is a love letter to all longtime God of War fans, those who played not only the Norse games but also the Greek ones. Also a great send off for the Greek era.
The story about his daughter got to me the most, it was so nostalgic and sad cause Chains of Olympus was the first game I ever played and it just took me back to a simpler time of my life as well.
I feel like one of the tings they tried to express in the throne scene is that there is no " young kratos" and " old kratos", there is only Kratos, a god, who was not spared by the passage of time, of introspective, of growth, of change. He was always a complex character and now he realized that he's not so isolated of his past self because he became noble, he's not so different because he always had that in him, in one way or another.
Interesting they brought up the boat captain from the first game. Back then, he was the series’ punching bag, bringing him back every now and then, only to have him butchered again by the very man who costed him his life. He was used for laughs then, and now is looked back on with regret and judgement. While they didn’t do so much of it here, i do like when shows or games take a character that was solely a joke and give more respect to them further on.
It's hard to forget the day Kratos had the rare chance to see his daughter again but was subsequently forced to leave her behind again. Probably one of the few things he will never be able to completely forgive himself for.
Remember, even the OG creator of GoW hates Kratos being like this, hates him having... you know character development and growth I cannot fathom how even he couldnt understand his own freaking character and what he went through after his trilogy
It's not a matter of understanding... He created the character, the character is HIS and NO ONE BUT HIM can say anything about the nature of his character, and NO ONE Can say that understand his character more than he do, it's stupidity to think otherwise. However... I preffer this, let's call "side creation" better.
I like this version better. I prefer complexity and depth of character to just mindless vengence all the time. Kratos feels more like a real person now because he has evolved and the previous games had consequences.
@@KoorosmHe may have created Kratos, but he gave up the right to make any kind of declaration like that. In a sense, it was _never_ his character to begin with. If it was, they would have never been able to make the Norse Games to begin with.
I think one of the funnier-yet-sad things that Kratos ever had to do....was do the same button mash QTE he uses on enemies to muster up the strength push his own daughter away. Weird they would do it, but I get the concept and the struggle.
The intelligence of Kratos has been on display since the first game, albeit hinted or glossed over in the first three games. One does not become a General without understanding strategy and tactics. On top of that, Hera (admittedly drunk) underestimates Kratos and his intelligence when he has to solve her garden. Then after that he has to solve an ever-shifting murder-maze to get in and out. More examples are out there. However intelligence is separate from wisdom. Kratos was always smart, though his brutality led people to underestimate that in the Greek games. However now Kratos has to gain wisdom, not just to run from his actions but to accept them. He knows the most terrifying monsters are the smart ones, and he was no exception back in Greece.
Kratos: The God of War, The Ghost of Sparta, the monster of Olympus, the destroyer of a pantheon, butcher of the innocent, murderer of his own family... the husband, the teacher, the father, general of Ragnarok, savior of the Valkyries, champion of the nine realms, the man who brought the tyranny of Asgard to an end, the man who broke the cycle and chose against all odds and his very nature to be better... The God of Hope.
Honestly, I can't believe that the series creator hates the newer titles because of the development and growth of Kratos as a character rather than still being the angry for sake of being angry monster that he was in gow 3 for his vengeance was all that he had left
Tbf he has every right to believe that since it was his creation and he had a certain vision for it. Not saying that anybody is wrong but he has every right to make his case
@dreezysig7469 if his vision is keeping kratos 1 dimensional I'm glad he failed. Because watching Kratos grow as you progress the story is brilliant to me when you compare where he was to where he is now.
@@Bilther_ash that i agree this Kratos is better than the old kratos cause he actually cares about his son, friends an everything and in war of asgrad he don't need to destroy eveything just one evil god that started it all.
@Darknova591 precisely, I actually played the norse games first so when I played the Greek ones rather being made to hate kratos as a character I was excited to see how far he was yet to come
I think the reason for that is because it would then give a distinction between Kratos of the past and present, when the truth is that even the past Kratos is still Kratos
I wish I had a friend like mimir to speak too and share my problems with. I know how it sounds, but wouldn’t we all want to have a friend that we could tell our secrets too?
I enjoy the references to Kratos’ past. I think every God of War player should play through the original trilogy not only because they’re crucial to Kratos’ story, but because the games are great. Additionally Kratos pretty much confirms that it hasn’t been centuries since the destruction of Olympus because Kratos said that he didn’t meet Faye centuries following Calliope’s death and I think Kratos wouldn’t have left out the exact details of the timeframe if they weren’t accurate, especially considering that it’s Mimir he’s talking to. I believe it’s been at least 50 years since God of War III, not centuries. As for the vase appearing in Tyr’s temple, perhaps Faye was able to plant it as she knew of the journey Atreus and Kratos would undergo. It’s even possible that Freya was wrong about the timeframe of the temple’s condition.
@@justsomeguy747 the God of War: Lore and Legends book directly says Kratos arrived in the Norse realms 115 years ago. We don't know how many years he spent between killing Zeus and arriving in the Norse realms.
One of the beautiful parts about Valhalla is that it also shows how much Santa Monica studios and the people running it (Barlog for example) have grown and matured as well.
This dlc is amazing. Not only does it give all the insight to those who never played the original games, and context for most of Kratos' story through all the old generation games. But it gives us who played every god of war game back then such amazing levels of pride in how far Kratos has come. We went from a rage fueled being that knew nothing of how to feel. How to be human. And now we get to play as that same being who has learned humanity, love, responsibility, honor, the ability to reflect on his past and learn from it, the ability to take constructive criticism and apply it to better his life and relationships with those around him. He has friends. He has love. He's the shining example of what every god is capable of, and that every god and every human for that matter, every being is capable of change and attonement for his past transgressions. This DLC was made for the fans who've played all teh games. ands they delivered in spades
19:25 I love how Kratos seems almost out of breath when he finally sits on the throne, like he needs to steady himself. It's a great show of expression.
Dude fuck whatever the original creator says or does this is the best I’ve seen character development I’ve ever seen in a videogame since the first Spider-Man game
Ok, I cannot think of the captain in God of War without laughing. Yeah, what happened to him was pretty bad but then he kept on dying and his reactions to it were hilarous!
TC Carson made it abundantly clear that he didn't want to be Kratos. Man voiced the Greek destroyer for 8 games. Main line God of War titles, Chains of Olympus, Ghost of Sparta, Ascension, a Soul Calibur game and a Mortal Kombat game.
I feel as if Kratos wasn’t ready to address what he was upon seeing his younger self, he probably would’ve had to fight him, and probably either die or revert back to his old ways.
I really think there should be a game of Atreus going to Greece and hearing the ghost stories about the god of war, about his father. Seeing how he deals with the fallout of his father’s actions, how he reacts to the stories, how he grows from learning. I think that would be really good. I also want Kratos himself to go back but I feel like it could be really powerful if done right to have Atreus travel to Greece, maybe even meet his half sister
ngl I've always hoped that we could get something revisiting greece. though in my imagination it would've been from the eyes of hercules on a journey of self-discovery through the broken lands of his newly godless home.
Its says a lot knowing that Kratos felt great shame for letting the boat captain fall to his death which was completely pointless as he was blinded by rage and revenge at that point.
15:00 'hopefully' this means thay even though not as powerful, Kratos still carries the primordial force of hope inside him, possibly he can summon the blade of olympus that way, give it a better story just like the berserker sword, and actively use that power like in the ending of GOW3, The God of War and the God of Hope simultaneously
hearing Kratos speak about Lysandra and Calliope is so heart-breaking. when he said he forgot Calliope's song, and that his feelings are Lysandra are so complicated only because he only sees his failures when he thinks of her, made me choke ho
I get why Helios would be present with how he went out and how his head was used and discarded, but what about Poseidon that man was given just a horrible and brutal death.
K: "I don't like Greece. Is messy. Slippery. And gets everywhere." Mir-mir: "I'm the smartest head alive. Yet i can't fathom, how you heard that reference..."
My only, and I mean only, complaint is there weren’t unique bosses or characters from Greece. There’s a recreation of Hercules’s arena but no Hercules boss fight. Now I’m not saying we needed bosses of Zeus, Hades, Poseidon or Hermes, but if we’re gonna be in a previous boss ring why not throw in that boss? And Pandora should have appeared. Even if it was a brief echo of her speech on hope and not her actual spirit being shown. I did like he remembered her words when confronting his past self. And did like the Boat Captain being mentioned.
Kratos has come far too long from what he was before, the the servent of Ares to the Ghost of Sparta, to the God of God now, to the Father of Atreus & the God of Hope, he finally accepted & forgave himself from his own guilt The whole story behind Valhalla isn't about going back to the old days in Greece & the classic nostalgia: It's about how you should accept in what you've done good or bad, improve upon it to become better in the newer days I love this series so much, & I love how it gives a greater impact irl sometimes
4:59 , What Kratos said is exactly what the Boat Captain think of kratos himself, every words to be exact, you can find the captain's note in the underworld in GoW 3.
What made it so heartbreaking is if there's a miracle to help undo everything and turn back time for Kratos to correct his mistake and save his daughter and the entire Greece, he wouldn't take it since doing so would undo Atreus.
Just goes to show how much kratos has grown and how much he trust mimir its so hard warming. I have played all gow games and the new gow just makes kratos a very likeing character
you know I remember a comic that showed what would happen if the witch from that one mission of 2018 GOW that showed Greece being rebuilt and kratos being hailed as a hero, worshiped as a god and that it was his daughter leading the rebuilding of the land.
Kratos screwed over that captain boat three times 😂 Once when he killed him, another one in the afterlife, and he was summoned as a spirit during the fight against the barbarian captain
And even now, after all the games that came since, the ending of GoW1 is still canon. People still pray to kratos when they go to war, but now… it is for peace. For hope.
Having this Valhalla DLC, gives me hope that they consider of remaking/remastering god of war 1-3, ghost of sparta and chain of olympus for ps5 and pc. This is pure nostalgia for og god of war.
