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Evolution of Gokus Design (Part 1) 

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In this video I'll be going in depth discussing all the changes wether large or minuscule over 196 chapters of Dragon Ball. I'll specifically be directed my attention on Akira Toriyamas art style and not any animators.
I hope you enjoy :)
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@lefthand4605
@lefthand4605 4 года назад
Fun fact: Akira Toriyama watched Astro Boy when he was a kid, so he purposely made Gokus hair with Spikes. Look up Goku and Astro boy and compare their hair style side by side.
@snin3202
@snin3202 4 года назад
Ah i got a goosebumps when you set the pictures of goku's evolution designs side by side. Good video man! I love ur contents
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
Thanks😁 It took alot of time but it was worth it!
@Foxdude89
@Foxdude89 4 года назад
Small and chubby kid Goku will always be my favorite version of him haha. I honestly feel that the changes in his appearance over time was very organic too as he was getting older and stronger. The DBS art he made seems to be regressing in my opinion but maybe that’s because he’s out of his prime now?
@tipsy634
@tipsy634 4 года назад
Yeah, Toriyama at his current age won't be able to produce art like what he did before. He doesn't seem to have the energy to divert from his current art style.
@nomad155
@nomad155 3 года назад
It was said cause it took too lynch work to make em bulky, plus Sayians stay in their prime until they're in their 80s.
@najmashahin9427
@najmashahin9427 3 года назад
@@tipsy634 toriyama dosent draw the manga anymore
@tipsy634
@tipsy634 3 года назад
@@najmashahin9427 i know, it's done by a guy called toyotaro, a longtime fan and imitator, though as good as toyotaro's art is, it doesn't compare to toriyama's at his prime
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 2 года назад
@Najma Shahin There are character sheets from Toriyama, for BOG, Resurrection F and Super, plus DB Minus. That's how you can see Toriyama's modern style.
@femto2099
@femto2099 Год назад
anytime I see a picture of kid goku next to current goku, it makes me feel like a proud parent for some reason lol
@ziel9474
@ziel9474 4 года назад
1:17 No one: Goku: Maybe her peepee was bitten by a snake?
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
ahaha didn't even notice that when I used it
@sissysovereign1294
@sissysovereign1294 2 года назад
I find it so funny how OG Goku and the other kids from back then looked like super round and chubby babies, but kid trunks,Gohan,and Goten all look like buff mini adults at his original age.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 6 месяцев назад
Goku was a chunky boi
@franciscobutte
@franciscobutte 3 года назад
Kid Goku arcs are so underrated. They are my favorites.
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 Год назад
To me it's better than DBZ
@DemonFox369
@DemonFox369 Год назад
A lot of this has to do with emotions and how Goku is getting older. Kids have bigger heads in proportion to their body. Kids are chubbier when younger. Goku also gets more muscular and leaner therefore he gets more angular. The art is pretty consistent with how one would expect a character getting older and more muscular to look
@lovesgibson
@lovesgibson 4 года назад
You should have way more subs for the amount of quality you put into this
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
Thanks dude much appreciated! And I'm working on the part two right at this moment haha so thanks for the motivation as it takes a lot of time to make :)
@noone-sx9by
@noone-sx9by 4 года назад
great video as usual, can’t wait for part 2!
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
It might be a while but it'll come one day haha
@noone-sx9by
@noone-sx9by 4 года назад
ForgottenRelics JW i will gladly wait for more content
@TheKusa5
@TheKusa5 3 года назад
Man seeing so much young goku is nostalgic as hell for me I really miss original dragonball.
@sweetpataterz8738
@sweetpataterz8738 2 года назад
Dragon Ball > Dragon Ball Z
@lastboss25
@lastboss25 4 года назад
kid goku is very cute!!
@RunwayH
@RunwayH 4 года назад
This got I my recomendation . very good
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
Thats great! And thanks :)
@ScapeVEVO
@ScapeVEVO 4 года назад
You should do a video analyzing Shintani’s way of drawing Goku
@lucilaci
@lucilaci 7 месяцев назад
the small, chubby goku without or a very small neck is just too cute. i dont like the sightly older one as much. also i really like when teenage/adult goku has his face similar to small goku. he looks like a big child, which is again very cute. also i really like the round eyes, not the hook eyes.
@Soynereh
@Soynereh 2 года назад
I swear, Toriyama style it's so hard to replicate to me. The guy sure has a knack.
@corel7966
@corel7966 4 года назад
very neat analysis. i do hope you'll make a part 2 sometime in the future.
@GeekedOutNeckbeard
@GeekedOutNeckbeard 4 года назад
I heard the Z came from Akira writing a 2 down to signify that this is Dragonball "2" but his English was bad it looked like a Z, so Toei or the editors? Made it such, and then he never corrected it. Not sure the truth on it, but that would be a rather hilarious way for the biggest, baddest series to get it's well-known name.. Albeit SSJ was brought on due to wanting to not ink hair..
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
I think it was because he was planning to end the series soon so he added the Z on the end since it represents the last letter on the alphabet therefore the final chapters.👍 But it seems dragonball got even more popular and that kinda changed haha. And it was more for his editor as toriyama didn't ink the hair. And with a black and white comic white is a simple way to illustrate a change😃
@georgezee5173
@georgezee5173 4 года назад
Though a funny theory, I don't think it would make sense since Toriyama had always written stuff in English for his usual vehicles designs and clothes. I'm not saying he had good English, but he knew how to properly write in our alphabet, so the 2 looking like a Z is highly unlikely. Furthermore, Japanese write our numbers all the time, for maths, for writing dates, etc., so it's even less believable that he would write a 2 looking like a Z. About the hair thing: being Dragon Ball the most important manga at the time, I really doubt that he needed to ink Goku's, Vegeta's and Gohan's hair himself in the case he was tired of doing that. He would've had an assistant to fill those large black shapes, so him making Goku blond when turning to SSJ it's not about saving time inking but to make him stand out,
@muffdingo
@muffdingo 4 года назад
@@georgezee5173 no toriyama would sketch and ink all main character designs back in the day, therefore ssj having white or blonde hair would be easier for him to rush the chapters out, toryiama had a small team of like 5-6 people in the prime and they usually dealt with background lettering and extras on the page
@miruharabae
@miruharabae 3 года назад
His eyes & hair comes instanly to my mind
@MALAKAI1107
@MALAKAI1107 4 года назад
Good work Im always fascinated with character design changes
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
Glad you did! There have been so many changes with dragon ball over the years so there will be plenty more videos like this :)
@Kusanagikaiser999
@Kusanagikaiser999 2 года назад
For me Teen Goku was my favorite look Goku ever had, I don't know exactly why is my favorite, but I just love the way Toriyama and the animators in this last period of Dragon Ball drew Goku, have like that shounen classic protagonist vibe to me, like a Seiya from Saint Seiya, for me this was top tier Goku normal look until I would say Frieza Saga (which probably is my second favorite look of Goku normal).
@stevenc5140
@stevenc5140 6 месяцев назад
How did Goku tie the dragon ball around his neck???!?!? 😂
@georgezee5173
@georgezee5173 4 года назад
Most of his proportions changes are due to him growing up throughout the series as time passes by. The same goes to Krillin's design.
@cupertinoish
@cupertinoish 2 года назад
Dragonball is the easiest fighting themed manga to re-read. Everything is simple yet exciting.
@mikemath9508
@mikemath9508 3 года назад
Im in over my head but its refreshing for somebody to just say "the fortune teller baba arc" out loud. Even TFS didn't acknowledge her outside of a one time line. She's so obscure but so powerful
@0kdevv_
@0kdevv_ 4 года назад
soooo is part 2 coming?
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
haha one day, it took a while to make and I dreaded working on it at times😂 But I haven't forgotten about it :)
@fabriziodavilaalva2.074
@fabriziodavilaalva2.074 4 года назад
Vaya fue muy informativo el video sobre todo mostrando viñetas del manga desde el anime clasico hasta inicios de z. Por cierto esto es en español
@ryanstrumpfler8115
@ryanstrumpfler8115 4 года назад
You are incredible. I love all of your analysis. Thank you for creating these.
@yushaare
@yushaare 4 года назад
FINALLY, been waiting for this one
@ms.antithesis
@ms.antithesis 4 года назад
Wait, was the Z in the viz translation only an American thing? Coz here in Britain I've never seen hat version of the manga.
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
Well here in Australia there is a Z in the manga also except for the kanzeban edition so I'm guessing it isn't just America :)
@ms.antithesis
@ms.antithesis 4 года назад
@@forgottenrelics1197 we didn't really gf et the anime till the mod 2000's here, so maybe they never bothered to release the manga till the red print was out. Ever since I got into dragonball I've only ever seen the 3 in 1 red manga that came a long some modern toyama illiterati9ns on the front.
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
@@ms.antithesis Ahhh interesting, that sounds like the kanzeban edition of the manga you're talking about however the release of the anime was pretty much the same here as well being mid 2000's I believe. But there's another edition the vizbig 3 in 1 which is even larger than the kanzeban and has some original color pages aswell which is has the Z in the title unlike the other release so it can get a little confusing haha
@ms.antithesis
@ms.antithesis 4 года назад
@@forgottenrelics1197 it was still viz.
@ms.antithesis
@ms.antithesis 4 года назад
and it had no colour pages.
@ms.antithesis
@ms.antithesis 4 года назад
Amazing video as always mate. All your shit's interesting af and normally pretty well presented.
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
Thanks man I was a little unsure if people would find this video interesting at first so I'm glad it was in the end!
@ms.antithesis
@ms.antithesis 4 года назад
@@forgottenrelics1197mate all your vids are interesting, also I've just noticed how many subs you've gained over this last month, good job.
@GalekC
@GalekC 2 года назад
I'm such a stickler for this stuff, haha
@edwardelric8881
@edwardelric8881 3 года назад
i read the manga first from the start and so seeing him evolve was cool
@TheTyroofToriyama
@TheTyroofToriyama Год назад
3:58 and 2:45 Perfect hair for Kid Goku. I don't want him to have the modern eyes, Goten's arms or adult hair. Little Goku and Kid Goku should look different in this regard, even if they wore the same costume
@DoreThan_Draws
@DoreThan_Draws 3 года назад
Man you are so noticeable in Goku huh I mean you can notice even the tini smallest differences
@jonathan_king000
@jonathan_king000 2 года назад
Your first video wow I thought that was the normally video love ur content
@mikemath9508
@mikemath9508 3 года назад
Your thumbnail confused the hell out of me. Why is it left to right, but then panel 3 is adult goku and panel 4 is kid goku again
@mikemath9508
@mikemath9508 3 года назад
A moving background adds to the megabytes of a video, and its a tad distracting when also you have a moving piece two show what you're pointing at. I can't to say recepticule
@seanolds6087
@seanolds6087 3 года назад
You didn't consider wind resistance with kid goku hair. Specifically when he's on the nimbus cloud.
@TheGreenManiac10
@TheGreenManiac10 3 года назад
Replicating Akira Toriyama back then was difficult but now people are able to do easily
@AirAmour
@AirAmour 3 года назад
Yes, it It really was. Specially if you're talking about Toriyama's old art style. In my opinion, his art started to get a little underwhelming as time passed... not that is his fault, of course! Since he was always so busy with this kind of stuff, is no wonder why he chose to simplify it a bit with the more sharper/blocky look he gave to his characters around the time he was writing Dragon ball Z. My only real problem with that, is how almost every character looks the same with the facial expressions and more bland backgrounds. I really like to think that Toriyama's prime was around the Dr. Slump and Dragon ball era.
@sayanorasonic
@sayanorasonic Год назад
@@AirAmour even ppl nowadays only copy late dbz art. I havent seen much ppl copying early dbz. Raditz and saiyan saga especially is so stylized
@snicklesnockle7263
@snicklesnockle7263 3 года назад
*Goku's Come one man, that's literally elementary school
@Av2007.
@Av2007. 4 года назад
This deserves way more views,great video!
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
Thank you! It was one of my most time consuming ones so I'm glad you liked it.
@Av2007.
@Av2007. 3 года назад
Wow this comment is really 1 years old , time flies
@mikeJRthe2nd
@mikeJRthe2nd 2 года назад
Me: Goku's change in design is because he was growing up. Akira: Taller Goku makes it easier to draw fights.
@ghoulchan7525
@ghoulchan7525 Год назад
Well it made sense.
@mikemath9508
@mikemath9508 3 года назад
I see gokus growth as the main part of DB taking over the course of two years. He went from 12 to 13 to 14 to time skip, 17
@julian6020
@julian6020 4 года назад
Guys are the 3 N1 db volumes complete ? Also nice vid
@filipbrcko
@filipbrcko 4 года назад
His hair is different because it has grown 😂
@sheerheartattack6322
@sheerheartattack6322 4 года назад
Pure blooded saiyans hair don't grow only their facial hair grows
@AfroZander5360
@AfroZander5360 4 года назад
Love these art analysis vids man 👏
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
Glad you did😃
@fridaynightplans_
@fridaynightplans_ 4 года назад
No part 2 yet? I wanna see the transition to the the boxy eyes
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
Haha I've been holding off because this one took took a lot of time and I realised I might have to mention his modern stuff which would make the video quite long. (Unless I might a part 3) But I definitely will make the part 2 :)
@fridaynightplans_
@fridaynightplans_ 4 года назад
ForgottenRelics JW thank you! New subscriber here. I almost watched all your vids due to quarantine. 😂
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
@@fridaynightplans_ Dang that sucks about quarantine😂. But welcome to the channel anyway and I'm glad they served as some entertainment. 😃👍
@alan_1414
@alan_1414 3 года назад
Chubby kid Goku is my favorite
@DarthBerial
@DarthBerial 3 года назад
Should've kept the early Saiyan saga art style. I do not like the blockiness of everything now.
@sayanorasonic
@sayanorasonic Год назад
I agree, it looks so good for me. Everything is so well proportioned
@annedrieck7316
@annedrieck7316 3 года назад
Evolution of Bullma designs
@maganhassan2627
@maganhassan2627 3 года назад
it's like we're seeing goku's growth in the series lol
@yuhyuhyuh6873
@yuhyuhyuh6873 3 года назад
Late dragon ball my favorite
@Anime-tt3yv
@Anime-tt3yv 4 года назад
Ima be honest he does a rlly good job and as long he makes dragon ball and dont change character its all good
@noone-sx9by
@noone-sx9by 4 года назад
first
@Jc-587
@Jc-587 4 года назад
Chubby Goku is best boi ❤️
@JohnZ-
@JohnZ- 4 года назад
You mean, “Goku’s”
@paintbrush3554
@paintbrush3554 4 года назад
this is why i love this channel♡☆☆
@xlavienture5358
@xlavienture5358 4 года назад
^^
@sheerheartattack6322
@sheerheartattack6322 4 года назад
This was a kick ass video I'm excited for part 2 and part 3 if that comes
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
Currently working on it although it is taking longer than most vids! It's definitely coming tho 👍
@sheerheartattack6322
@sheerheartattack6322 4 года назад
@@forgottenrelics1197 Hell yeah!! Take all the time you need bc I already know its gonna be amazing
@davionfowler2393
@davionfowler2393 4 года назад
U deserve more subscribers bro keep up the great work
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
Will do! And thanks :)
@saiyajindxmusic2506
@saiyajindxmusic2506 4 года назад
you should talk about Totally not Mark's arts because its near being Toriyama ( 98.7 %)
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
I was thinking talking about Instagrams top dragonball artists, so I could include him in a video like that😃
@t.b.g.animation6185
@t.b.g.animation6185 4 года назад
ForgottenRelics JW can you please go 2 my channel and you can see my animation please go and check it out
@justrenz6908
@justrenz6908 4 года назад
I'm going to need a part 2 sir 😂😂😂
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
working on it literally right now haha
@justrenz6908
@justrenz6908 4 года назад
@@forgottenrelics1197 oh , cool! I'm going to sub to be notified. Thanks man, keep up the great videos.
@tuttifrutti8851
@tuttifrutti8851 4 года назад
Bloody brilliant!
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
Thanks!
@muffdingo
@muffdingo 4 года назад
Do you say 1985 or 1995? Because it sounds like 1995 and that would be completely incorrect for the chapter to come out in 1995 also what I’m talking about is around 2:20
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
I said January 4th 1985, the auto-generated subtitles also show the same thing. But yeah I did say it pretty fast haha
@muffdingo
@muffdingo 4 года назад
@@forgottenrelics1197 thanks I was just wondering sorry if I came off douchey mate
@bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368
@bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368 4 года назад
So is there not gonna be a part 2
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 4 года назад
I might do it next, unsure yet but I will definitely do it👍
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