Most informative video, keep coming back to it. Very helpful. Just to add, I think General Constance is a better second tier gatherer than Lucy because she gets 20% extra from resource spots and increases troop load. Seems easily attainable as a full fragment in tavern most new players seem to have her.
So very informative. Thank you so very much! I was told to concentrate on getting all your buildings up to yor keep lvl. The few vids of yours I've watched over the last few days since subscribing have really enhanced my game. Thank you!
Spent tons of gems in the tavern but couldn't get a single Jindeok. Settled on five Constace I. She has 20% bonus, not 40% like Jindeok but still pretty good. I would also put a full Champion gear set on them all as they give extra 10% from tile and only use Kings weapon for speed (sword for stone, bow for ore, etc). Full Kings set doesn't not offer that extra 10% bonus. I also kept Shimazu Yoshihiro just because he brings back 30% extra food instead of 20% like Constance, but he's only good for food.
First off I am a big fan of your tutorials! If you made it.. I have watched rewound watched until i understood what you are teaching... I then took back this information to my clan and shared. I have also gave you full credit. I just finished doing your Tavern raid got two baibars one of each of the following queen Jindeok Tarjin andrew jackson spent 204 k gems to do this. I also bought two more Cleopatras cause at first I was not getting anything but worried! LOL btw I am tavern keep 28 not at the min 29 you advised but I am impatient. Couple of questions why catapults for queen Jindeoks collecting? Level one warriors are the same upkeep? But you chose catapults and one of my fellow clans people says to use lvl one warriors. I dont know the answer to this question but I am sure you do! Thank you Miser keep up the tutorials and I will keep watching and learning! St. Jude dwr server 289
Happy to hear! Warriors work fine as gatherers. Siege are slightly better because they have a higher troop load, meaning you need fewer total to collect the same amount. However, if you aren't great at bubbles, warriors would be a better choice since healing is cheaper than training.
I don't know if you're still around, Miser---it's been a while since anyone has commented. While I also think this (and others of your) videos are really very good and helpful, it seems like a lot of Evony content is directed toward higher level players. Or in this case talking about which generals and equipment you 'should' have. It's frustrating for players like myself. I've been playing for about 4 months. I spend a little---$10-20.00 a month. Just finished Keep lvl 26. I haven't even seen one Jindeok opportunity yet, let alone five. I have one Lucy, which I think just about everyone gets these days and I have only just in the last couple weeks gotten a King's scroll for a Bow and more recently a Spear. I guess what I am trying to say is, I would love to see someone like you (there are some shit videos out there) do a video for players are a long way off from Keep 30 but are regular, active players. What can we do with decent but lesser generals and equipment?
You might want to take a look at the walk-through series. It gives a keep by keep breakdown that you knight find useful. You won't see a lot of good generals in tavern until you get it up to about tavern 30. The priority before then is really just growth outlined on the walk-through video.
Very helpful, bit in some instances you use jargon that you understand but others do not. I’ll try to listen again and note what the terms are and the time at which you use them so that you can tell the context and perhaps explain in another video or in the comments. Usually, when I ask a question, I am not the only person wondering about that specific topic
Just started playing and have watched videos to learn , keep is lv 11 . I was hoping the title ( no 1 ) might mean it was aimed at the beginning/ beginner ! Sadly this isn’t the case as the host starts off at lvl 30 keep 😳 If someone does a set of videos by Monarch lvl and what to do to grow a strong kingdom with and without spending a fortune I think it would be a very successful series.
It's more of a general purpose priority kind of video, not specifically targeted at keep 30. The target range is probably more around Keep 15 - 35. Until then things are just unlocking as you go, so the priority should just be to continually work on doing whatever is necessary via research and buildings to get your keep to a higher level. You'll definitely want to join an alliance as soon as possible and join boss rallies to get speedups and resources.
@@The_Miser , I appreciate both the reply and the notion it’s impossible to pls all 😜. That said maybe you have forgotten the brain ache deciding what’s what and which path to follow when just starting out for the first time ! In my ltd experience of playing games of a similar type ( nowhere near your level ) there are categories of players .... The big spenders ... The casual spender .... The free loader ! Each category has two sub categories, the player that fights and the player that hoards ( bubbles ). I like to think I’m a bit of both myself as I’m not a huge spender so my battle stats will always struggle against those that are . I appreciate the philosophy of getting your supply chain sorted to allow growth and then army development because doing each piecemeal isn’t really going to win many awards ( I’m not advocating ignoring your army completely) . For me though it’s the the little things/ the details that matter. For example in some games I’ve played the army size and training speed is directly linked to the amount of barracks / camps in your city. Is that true in this game I’m not sure but I’m told no , would you like to confirm this ? I’m holding my medals back for when I have gold Generals, is this a bad idea ? The same with composing gear for generals. Do whole sets of the same colour give an added bonus or should the gear be chosen to match the assignment. I appreciate this is a long mail but to us newbies there are so many questions. 🤔
Hello very informative video!! Thank you. How many farms and sawmill, etc.. you run, I want to focus on archer, is 8 sawmill, 6 farms, 5 quarries, 6 mines, 6 army camps good?
Lol all t1 sieges. You are suggesting no PVP till k35? Just curious, how long would it take to get to k35 if one play strictly following your suggestion? I'm k27 and I do like PVP. Planning to build a full march of t11s then stop till t12. Is that a bad idea? Also, do you dismiss all lower tier troops?
Yup. It seems crazy but it's very effective. If you like PVP, you've probably realized by now that there is little you can do to stop getting crushed by bigger players. K27 to K35 would probably take half a year. It's a slow process, but much slower if you have an upkeep and are constantly engaged in PVP. However, if you enjoy pvp, pvp and don't do this. This is more a fast-grow option. It's very effective, but it's not exciting. Play the way you want to play, imo.
Focus on what is necessary for the next keep build. Tavern and shrine are important only because they are needed to upgrade required buildings. Later, tavern is useful for obtaining generals, and the shrine is super important for increasing prestige. At level 15, they aren't going to be high priority, though. You should also be upgrading your in-city resource tiles as you grow to keep resource production high. What you can do is use build slot #1 for short builds like resource tiles, and use slot #2 and #3 for bigger builds that you plan to let run down on time. This reduces the gems you spend on extra build slots since you only pay once.
First priority is to unlock t14 troops. Archers are by far the hardest to unlock, but definitely work toward getting all. After that, you can really start to build up those troops and research to be competitive. Congrats on k35!!!
Just want to say - your delivery, content, and image are spot on. Thanks, so much for the well explained tips. Any chance I could steal your time for some alliance guidance? Sudden promotion to R5 and new in the game - loving your snippets about alliance development 😎🙏
Love the videos. for Jindeok The skill books jumped back and fourth between the resources. Would it be of any advantage to skip a resource book on each and use load increases instead assuming you have of her. Also will you be doing any videos on BOC and BOG strategies and game play.
I'd use lvl 1 books to just fill her up. What happens, happens - unless you have tons, in which case plan for what you need more. After filled up, then use max level books of those types to replace the lvl 1s. I will be doing pvp video and such soon.
Wow! I really like you videos. but i got some questions. * What lvl of tavern do you must have for Queen Jindeok begun to appear? I'm My tavern are lvl 20 i a have never even seen any epic golden historic generals. i do have seen some epic purple historic generals. (My keep are lvl 23) the server are 50 days * I have now 5 purple sub citys. (and a blue main sub city) (i have 6 slots) should i focus on gold production only? * Why do the player you are showing, not have a skill for troop load for Siege Machine for on each queen? Anyhow, ain't that good to have on even if maybe hes choose are better some how? * when you farming mining etc. Should you have troop load on? Or march size? would they not give equivalent results? Do you understand how i thinking? * i have some army now. i think its a bad idea to just to dismiss them. what are the best way to put em to use? attacking NPC sub under NAP? * My plan are to have 1 mounted troop... or 3. lol and the rest lvl 1 catapults. i don't know why did have lvl 1 ground troops? Is that good to have? and why did he have some lvl 9 siege machines??? it that any reason why not have all in lvl 1? * Should i change culture? Now i have Europe. Keep up your good work!
1) I think it's possible from anything above level 20, but it gets exponentially less likely the lower level your tavern. After 27, you'll see more consistency. 30 and above it becomes very common. 2) No. Gold production from subs is insignificant. Most gold in the game comes from events such as vikings. Focus on getting subs for attack/defense or resource production/gathering. 3) Depends on how many troops you have. For most players, yes. Troop load means less troops needed so you should use it. March size increases the maximum size of your march which you should be increasing through technology and rally spot upgrades. March size horn you would use for something like reinforcing a player, world boss, etc. 4) Your idea is pretty solid. You can train general experience this way and put them to good use. 5) Have maybe 100 tier one cav or ground to join rallies. The gatherers you could do t1 ground or t1 siege. I would choose siege because I don't have bubble fails. If you are worried about bubble fails, ground might be better since they will go to hospital. However, siege have better troop load so you need fewer troops and therefore you'll eat less food. 6) Up to you. I would probably choose Korea or China for culture. Resources are more important. When you get to the bigger keep levels and your builds start to take hundreds of days (or thousands), you can always spend a few gems to change to Europe for the build, and then switch back.
Thank you so much for your video I am going to start using your method. I have a couple of questions: 1. How do you defend yourself during the undead event if you do not have any troops, and 2. I already have quite a few troops do I dismiss them?
1) You don't. Have someone else reinforce you. You get the same rewards and they get extra points. 2) That or wound them into your hospital and don't heal them.
Hi! Thanks for the series and the great channel. It is hard to find good quality information about this game and I am glad I found your channel! I have two questions for you: 1) What is the distribution of your in city resource production tiles? (i.e, how many sawmills, farms, mines, army camps?) 2) I am having a hard time farming for food, mostly because my upkeep is still 800k a hour even after dismissing a bunch of troops. I need to keep some of my high tier cavalry to do monsters still for my alliance. Do you have any tips on saving up on food? I do have Shajar on my wall at the moment.
1) Choose a focus troop that you will use as a primary (except ground). Whatever resource that takes more of, max it with in-city tiles. For example, if you are focusing on archers, choose to max lumber mills. Make only 1 farm, and 1 army camp (unless you are supported by alts). The rest can be filled with the other two resource types. 2) Raise your cap for protected food through research and warehouse building level. Put as much into storage in your alliance warehouse as possible. Save food boxes for when you need them and make sure you have critical talented.
@@The_Miser Thank you! In general, would you say that farming tiles is more lucrative than in city production (assuming everything being maxed out)? Trying to decide whether to go the China or Korea subordinate city route. Thanks again.
Nice video, but there’s one question: how much is it relevant if there’s tile hitting on a server? Would you still recommend to focus on gathering? Another case: tile hitting was against the server rules but some players went rogue and started hitting tiles and doesn’t seem anyone can stop them even big players. How to keep growing?
Hi, do you have a more detailed video regarding completing the consuming return events? Gaming Addicts Genghis said you had a video on it, but I cannot find it. Thanks.
Nothing specific. He might be thinking about the recurring events series, but there's nothing dedicated to consumptions. Feel free to ask whatever questions you have here or in the discord channel, though.
@@The_Miser Thanks. I'm just looking for tips on how to maximise what you get from it. He mentioned something about you saying not to force it, and also to hold off and skip an event so you can be better prepared for the next one. Also, I am completely confused about what order and how often the events rotate. You said 2 months in your video but that seems awfully long. Thank you.
@@lala42911 The events have always been resources consumption followed by speedups consumption and then all over again. I do mention that it is worthwhile to opt to skip a consumption if it will allow you to achieve a higher tier or two the next time. The rewards for the 3rd and up tiers are just so much better. It's usually about 1.5-2 weeks per consumption event, then a week break, then the next consumption.
Thanks for your great series of videos. The problem with building only/mainly 1 siege all the way before reaching a high level keep is that, once you get hit for whatever reason, the loss to the siege weapons can only be restored with gems. Isn't it a big risk? Also troops don't consume food at all due to the warehouse upkeep, so I still don't know the benefits of building only level 1 siege.
Not a problem! The siege that you are training for gathering are only level 1 troops, and the total resources required to build them is pretty insignificant in the long run. You can lose them all and it wouldn't be too big a deal. Also, when they die they fill up the repair in the trap factory which is actually nice. You want this to be filled so that more valuable troops don't go there. Instead they would go to your holy palace for free healing. You can also do level 1 ground troops if you prefer. If you have frequent bubble drops, that would be better. Troops don't eat food up to the limit of the warehouse upkeep. After that, they do. So when you start needing billions of food for buildings, it makes a huge difference.
@@The_Miser troops upkeep showing in the resource information, is it consumed anyway regardless warehouse food protected from troop upkeep? or troops will not consume it until it exceed this warehouse limit? warehouse protected food is 1million, troops upkeep is 500k, does this mean it will not be consumed until it is above 1m?
What skill books do you choose for your gathers. I figured for each one you wanted faster gathering on one type, increased seige load, what about the 3rd?
@@The_Miser yea I learned that you can only pull 5.5 mil out of a spot the other day. I figured you would want the extra loads esp setting over night nope.
Great question. Technology would be a great focus area for this series. Short answer, yes. Focus first on resource ones such as in-city production and gathering speed.
Yo. So with all those siege(1M) and however many t10, this keep had is he able to complete his undead for his keep size? Usually we send siege away for undead or are you saying don’t worry about undead till what level?
You can do undead. Just have someone with troops reinforce you. If you are in an active alliance you wouldn't want to be keeping your troops home anyway. You would send them out so that the person reinforcing you gets maximum points.
I need more general and monarch help I buy packs daily and dont have a clue to what the items are all about, do you take accounts and refine them for us. ?? lease respond
I am in an active alliance. Most of the members stay in the hive and conduct alliance wars on nearby boss monsters. I prefer to roam the world map actively looking for sites from which I can hit several bosses in all directions, although I go back to the hive later in the day and join in some alliance wars. However, that deprives other members from adding my strength to alliance war hits, and it means lower totals in events where all members are encouraged to join in boss attacks. I was wondering if each member could send me a general and one troop that I can then take with me on my world map excursions and if we all would then get credit for an alliance war hit on a monster? I'm at Lv27 and most of the other members are below Lv20.
Thanks for posting this! I'm transitioning to this play style now (although I do love battlefield) I was wondering if using this strategy would you pick certain days to join rallies and others to send out all 5 marches to gather? Alternate maybe? Seems like a delicate balance is needed to be effective.
Rallies are always a better choice if you are online. You'll find that you'll have an excess of resources this way, and less speeds. Sometimes you might even send out a march or two to gather while you join rallies. Make sure you send 1-10 ground or cav to bigger boss rallies rather than the siege to prevent increasing wounded for the boss runner.
@@The_Miser So today the rss event began and I did as you suggested in the video. However, I am only a k27 right now and with the k28 upgrade to keep along with k26 watch tower and k27 holy place upgrades triggered I was only able to get the first level of rewards in each rss category. Should I train troops to make the most out of the remaining 10 days left?
@@edwardhenderson2988 I would say it depends on how far away you are. If not far, wait for troop train day and polish it off. If far, just let it slide and start prepping for the next resource one which you'll do better.
The Miser's Guide to Evony Have you considered doing a video on alt accounts? I recently started one to aid in rss collection for upgrading my main account. I think getting your take on how to effectively build an alternate keep would be interesting.
@@edwardhenderson2988 I probably won't do that, but really the idea would be the same. Follow the priorities for resource gathering and production. Outfit your generals with resource gathering gear, books, etc. You just wouldn't convert to military later. You probably wouldn't focus on any research or buildings that are non-essential for getting keep level up and increasing resource collecting. I'd also say that it wouldn't be beneficial to upgrade beyond keep 30 because the amount of resources it takes to upgrade tiles versus the production increase is much less effective from 30-35.
Aside from Lucy, if you don't have Queen J yet, how about Attila? I currently use Lucy & Attila to gather. Also for resources. How many of each building do you recommend? I see many suggesting building all farms & sawmills, then use gathering to get stone & ore?
If you don't have QJ, there's a purple version you can get that's similar but not as strong. If you can get that, great. If not, it doesn't matter which general you use but Attila would could help with troop load. For buildings: Do you want to focus on archers or siege? If archers, consider maxing out your lumber mill, build 1 farm, 1 camp, and maybe 3-4 mines, and the rest quarry. If the opposite, switch quarry and lumber mill. This makes better use of your % increases in production. You can focus your gathering on the resources you find you lack.
One more question, how buildings of each resource should I have? I presently have a lot of farms but I won't need that many if I use this technique correct?
Correct. You wouldn't need many farms because upkeep is low. When you train military you want only 1 farm because food production is basically impossible anyway due to hungry troops.
Dear Miser. Just wanted to give you a gratitude, as I have been following you for long time. Always was fan of you as you give ppl honest and unbiased guides. I always tell anyone new to the game just to follow your guide about how to grow fast. Anyway as the Evony policy is to make ppl pay and no real game play in it. Maybe always was. But realized it late. Decided to leave the game at K38. This game is not for me. Even though I’m not a big coiner I have wasted lot of time here to be K38 with some 3.5 ish power. That’s nothing at the moment. Even with smart play I try to continue to be competitive it feels like I’m an idiot. Just wasting my time for those big stupid spenders just to be a feast or their entertainer. I would rather use my time in something productive. So I am leaving the game. And unsubscribing all related to Evony. Wish you a very good life ahead as you’re an amazing person. Good luck Miser.
You can have as many of the same type of general as you want. QJ is excellent for gathering because she returns with extra resources. There are other similar generals that you now get as starting generals if making a new account, which is pretty cool. You use all 5 at the same time the same way you use one. However, you unlock the ability to send out more marches as you level up. You'll probably unlock your 5th march somewhere around keep 25 or so unless you purchase.
I am at k16 with two subs. I am at 2.7 mil power. I have level V and VI troops. I’ve been trying bring everything up even. If I did this, should I dismiss all those and keep just level 1 catapaults?
Great video. Quick question, if I have Rss that much, I would be attacked every single day. How am I to defend? Also, with that no troops how am I going to fight monsters/bosses?
You're not going going to defend. Stay bubbled, always. Realistically, even if you had millions of troops at a lower keep level, you wouldn't do much better. Bubble maintenance is the absolute most important aspect of this game. This strategy isn't meant to be a boss and monster killer. If you aren't in an alliance that runs bosses, you'll have little ability to get speedups so this isn't for you. If you are, you can join rallies with just 1 troop and get the same rewards.
your server should have nap times rss collect at these times also if you are using level one catas those that attack you wont be getting much points so you wont be dealing the enemy much. You are going to get attacked on your way up the key is to lose low level troops. High level troops are going to hurt your resources far more.
Hi miser. Like your video. At lower keep (25 to 28) how is it possible to spend billions in rss in consuming event without using speedups or troop training?. With 3 building slots max rss that could be spent would be around 500m far as I can tell. What would you recommend in that case?
It's not possible at that keep level with buildings alone and I wouldn't recommend building troops. You'll probably get to the 2.5 mark which is fine for now. Save the excess for the next consumption and just be super careful with bubble. Eventually you'll make it there as the keep level grows.
how to hide resources ? I am f2p player, i don't have enough bubbles. I can collect from outside the city and within. But i am clueless about how to hide them as i have been hit quite a few times already.
There is no way to "hide" resources. You can upgrade warehouse to prevent more from being taken but what you need to actually do is keep your truce protection (bubble) up 24/7.
Hello. I have a question too. If I reset my monarch talents i will loose the ones I got And start from zero or i will keep the talents And learn some New ones?
This is true. Every effort should be made to join an alliance where bosses are run regularly. Many people speed their way to upper levels and are more than happy to run boss rallies. You can join these without needing to contribute a large army. In this way, you get speeds, resources, and way, way faster growth overall.
I'm on a new server and want to full econ but already built 200k T11 troops to run rallies for my alliance and a full layered siege that can kill purple sub npcs with 0 losses...I don't think it would be worth it to release the troops at this point right? It's been a week so far and I'm consistently placing top 5 in the events so I'm thinking the rewards would make keeping the troops worth it unless the other people on the server start heavy coining. Thoughts?
@@The_MiserThanks! I'm hoping some other players start running more rallies, but it looks like only 2 or 3 of us are strong enough to beat level 10 bosses and full 50 vikings right now. If the other guys coin hard enough to beat level 12 bosses I'll dismiss troops and econ up.
I think this is actually the way to go for me. However, I cannot bring myself to do it, but the more I think about it. I can't lead meaningful rallies anyway. I do fuck all in battlefield. And I flat out can't do anything meaningful in true PvP anyway. It would mean disbanding 1M layered troops up through T10 leaving only the siege machines. I am at K28 with max research with resources, construction, and research speed for my level. If I were to do it, how long would you guesstimate that it would take to be at K35 with this strategy if I follow it to the T (or potentially K40 by that time?)?
Culture is less about your troops and more about what you are doing in game as a main focus. Are you building buildings, trying to gather resources, defending attacks, attacking? Check out subordinate city buffs and go with what fits you best.
lols... how can you use billions of rss without using speedups in resource consumption event when there's only 3 builders. @ keep 28 the rss need is around 220 M of each food, lumber, stone, and ore vs the number of 228 days of before completion.
Some builds you want to speed and leave the biggest builds for the speedup event. On Archetype, I sometimes did a few keep levels at once to achieve this.
@@The_Miser at lower keep before 30++ much better to do speedups consumption then when you are ready to consume the minimum 250M that's the time you go for rss consumption.
Yes. Most people will save at least 1 million food per hour production. It also increases your ability to store food rather than have to rely on boxes to top up before buildings. Troops are pretty useless until you can actually pvp effectively.
Your giving a video about building ...I would imagine at level 30 you should have worked it out ......try starting at level 1-10....that would be more informative to help new players ...
Send jindeok to gather tile with gear specific for that tile to speed up gathering time once she starts gathering switch her gear to champions gear to get an extra 10 percent bring back.......this will allow jindeok to technically bring back 50 percent more rss.....for my jindeoks they gather a 7m tile in 4 hrs but bring back 10.5m rss ..once you add up all the miscellaneous features I'm bringing back 15m rss from a 7m tile and it's done in 4 hours ........ just an fyi......
@@The_Miser shiee i didnt know you had these other videos... Thank You so much Miser !!! And i just got my First Ever Queen Jindeok and Baibers im so happy but i need alot more of them... i also send a bunch of Constance to gather Rss tiles shes my go to for now
Always use bubble (City Buff: Truce Agreement.) Yes always, if you not gonna be part in some PVP stuff. Our server have NAP when it's not kill event (Not Attack Players). So you should be able to be unbubbled. The most player follow the rules. But it always some who do not know, or do not care about the rules. So even if the king, the strongest player your guild members or the strongest guild punishes the perpetrator .... it will not help you. You still have lost all your army and resources. So ... always be bubbled. Always buy the 3 days. And have some 8h for pvp if you do pvp. You will get 1 24h in daily rewards too, so never buy 24h. You lose gems if you do.
The Miser yeah we are just now getting 11b’s down on our top alliance at like day 7 and got throne already at like day 5 or so. we have 2-4 heavy coiners but i’ll be taking it slower myself
Listening to this guy will get you city destroyed! A high keep and no power or defense to back it up will get you destroyed by somebody who did it right.
Interesting theory. Please explain exactly what attacks can pierce a bubble. If you drop your bubble, it doesn't matter if you built up your army or you didn't, you will be attacked. The purpose of this video is efficiency. Of course, you will not be defensible in the game. That's why you bubble. If you build troops, you still need to bubble. I'm missing your point here. You are wasting your resources and slowing down your growth by doing it "right" as you say. By all means, play your own way. If you want to build troops and grow that way, do it. Just don't be surprised when your growth is stunted or when you lose your investment with a bubble drop.
This has put me off playing completely. One needs to play this game 24/7 and put big $ into it to achieve exactly what? More and more billions of everything. I liked this game at early levels but later it becomes like a chore or a job.
Your comment seems rather nihilistic. =( If your goal is to be in the top tier of players, you realistically can't do that without exactly what you said. However, that doesn't mean you can't enjoy yourself. Evony is evony, but you choose how you want to play (or not).
@@The_Miser Yep I'm struggling to find a perfect game for me. I'm mostly interested in PvE. I almost deleted Evony today but decided to stay a bit longer. I will move to a remote forest and develop slowly and hunt monsters and bosses on my own. And I will free to play. Therefore please recommend should I go with mounted army or ranged. Ranged is weaker vs bosses, but saves me from developing 2 fighting generals (ranged to defend myself from other players and mounted for pve) as my resources will be limited by free to play. Maybe ranged is better in the end as I can concentrate on 1 strong general?
It's unfortunate that this is still a high level guide, for those of us with keeps in the teens there's a lot of information here that isn't particularly helpful.
