Ex-Catholics who are Anti-Catholics presenting as Expert Catholics | A Drive-Time Monologue 

Keep going to mass Kenny, and keep Christ in the centre of your heart and mind. GOD BLESS. PAX.

Do you block goblins?

@@bernardokrolo2275 😆

@@KennyBurchard keep white good work Kenny..God bless you..greetings from Croatia

Sorry, wanted to put this here.

Keep up the good work

@@frederickanderson1860 what is your denomination?

Well, they'll be coming for me then. HA!

@@KennyBurchard isn’t there a saying, “All publicity is good publicity?” 😇😉😆

Mike Genderon's rhetoric is precisely what Allie Beth believes about the church. A refusal to submit to authority is generally disguised as a "love of scripture" - "I love scripture too much to have it interpreted for me".

@@ekatrinya It is love of self.

@@KennyBurchard Allie Beth had Trent Horn on her channel once. He was very patient with her and brought her very close to accepting the Catholic understanding, before she pulled back. Please keep her in your prayers.

There's no "maybe" about it. Its totally about Jesus. That includes reference to TLM advocates. The mass isn't about them.

@@Kitiwake , that's precisely why people love the TLM because to us it is more about Jesus and less about "the audience".

@@kathleenrawner573 it's about them and their preferences. The choice of the liturgy is purely and totally a matter for the curia.

My favorite answer for that is "I wonder if Jesus got anything from the cross?"

Without knowing, they lived out John 6:66.

Thanks John

Luck is a pagan idea

@@Kitiwake outside the Catholic Church is pagan

@@johnvitelli3862 gottem

Yeah, I find, mostly, that former Catholics (who present themselves as expert Catholics) often have a similarly-evolved experience of Catholicism that generally goes like this... 1. Early Childhood: I'm being raised in a nominally Catholic home. It doesn't leave Church with us. It stays there and we don't talk about it. 2. Pre-Teen: I'm going through the Catholic motions as my nominally-Catholic parents are making me do it. I still don't understand it, and it's not coming home with me. 3. Early Teen: I am Spiritually hungry. I know some Christians in other denominations who seem serious about their faith. They invited me to their stuff and it seems more alive to me. 4. Late Teen Early Adult: I'm leaving the Catholic Church. I don't get anything out of it like I do at First (Second, Third, Fourth) Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist, Lutheran Church (or Wave, Skyline, Mill Creek, Light House fellowship). The REAL Christians are in this Church. 5. Early Adult: Not only am I NOT Catholic anymore, but WOW! My new Church (Southpoint, Freewill Baptist, Cornerstone Lutheran, Hillcrest Presbyterian, IGNITE Fellowship, etc.) has helped me to see that Catholicism is actually NOT Christian at all. I was deceived. Now my mission is to get as many Catholics out of it as I can. Next month we're taking a mission trip to Mexico to save the Catholics and spread our novel version of North American Protestant Evangelicalism (complete with skits and motions) with the folks down there who worship Mary and the Pope. 6. Adult to Old Age: Hey, I was raised Catholic, and boy, let me tell you (as a former insider and expert) what is rrreeeaaaallly going on over there (insert 7-10 typical caricatures, myths, rumors, hoaxes, exaggerations, memes, canards, and insufferable mischaracterizations here). In reality, most of these folks have "arrested development" regarding Catholicism, grew up in homes with parents who were not devout (no matter what they tell you), and listened to non-Catholics tell them that it's because Catholicism = bad. It's so tragic. Having pastored many many many of these folks, and conversed with several of them (through their tears and anger) when they heard I was becoming Catholic, I am more convinced than ever that there is solid data here.

@@KennyBurchard Brilliant! Your little summary there could be, and probably is a whole book, by scores of "Catholic experts." But what is curious is after they attend and leave all those dozens of other churches, they never refer to themselves as "ex-JimBob ministries" do they? The only one they carry for life is ex-Catholic. There's some deep psychology there that I can't put my finger on. Accept that as everybody knows, ex-Catholic gives you street cred.

@@bazzy8376 Yep. Excellent point. I was telling Doug Beaumont recently that often my FIRST question to an ex/expert Catholic who gives me the "I now go to a REAL Christian Church" is -- "Is it the same one you were going to when you left Catholicism?" The answer is almost ALWAYS: NO! And they will give reasons for why some of the churches they got involved in were "in error" and they had to leave those too. "Are you in the same denomination you were in after leaving Catholicism" is a very early question in my dialogue with ex/expert Catholics now. They continue to jump around and we often discover that they, themselves, are the arbiters of their own preferred theological convictions and "essentials." That is -- they are the pope of their own Christianity (though they often say they're just following Jesus). What they are actually doing is following their auto-curated (self-made) version of a "christianity" (for there are innumerable christianities in protestantism) that they can agree with. Feel free to use whatever you like. PEACE!

@@bazzy8376 When I was in seminary, many of my fellow seminarians fell into a tribe of Anti-Credal - Anti-Confessional Christianity in favor of the moniker of "Red Letter Christians" and "Jesus Followers" who did not subscribe to any credal statements. On deep inspection I discovered that they all had one thing in common; they all agreed that there wasn't anyone (they thought) who had any authority to say which one of the creeds or confessions was "best" or "most correct" or "binding on all believers" so they just chucked it all and set out on their own. THAT is the quintessential protestant impulse. The presupposition behind it all is this; Jesus didn't found ONE visible Church and he didn't invest that Church with his teaching authority. Rather, Jesus gave us a book -- and the most important part of the book is the places where the ink is red.

@@KennyBurchard O love that question. It's so telling. I'll use it.

That has been my observation too

Honestly, a good percentage of them must be plain old liars. The tales they spin...

Kenny is right about a 12-year-old understanding interfering with a full understanding of the Catholic Faith. It is a normal stage of adolescent growth to question one's earlier self. It is necessary for each of us to make our own, what we were taught. This was the age that Ignatius of Loyola became worldly. And Teresa of Avila lost her early fervor. This is the age that Therese of Lisieux chose to become a saint.

Very true! We are trying to change this but it is a long process.

In order to receive the sacraments a Catholic child is given the education, or at least the opportunity to learn about the faith. What they do with it afterwards in their lives is largely up to them.

@@Kitiwake but parishes are huge, priests and deacons are soo few. Its great that we have new deacons now bu t before theyre all guys totong ther kids during mass.

I'm a cradle Catholic 😁 It's the biggest gift that I have received from my parents it's an honor 🙏 Thank you Jesus for the gift for his Church I could Never Even be a protester I would be so unhappy and mad if I would have been born Protester 😬 I don't understand Protestants

@@almarodriguez298 watch my video "The Protestant Reflex" to understand more

it's not good preaching, it's rethorical fireworks

I like the your description

@@AgapeJiuJitsu-nz4vj thanks!!

I've seen it over and over and over again. Some of the people I've known the longest who are former Catholics present themselves as experts at Catholicism, and many of them left their under-formed or malformed Catholic faith (or some version of it mis-modeled for them by their parents) as teens -- but they know it's not true and can tell you why.

And they NEVER ask a convert.

I was born and raised Catholic, left for awhile and came home 24 years ago. Even when I answer a nonCatholic or an antiCatholic I consult a good, orthodox Catholic source first.

It’s sad. There is a culture of this among many ex Catholics. They make it their ministry and personality to destroy the Church of Jesus thinking they are doing God a favor.

exactly, like being divorced does not make you a marriage expert.

Sadly, they learn this from ex or anti Catholic pastors (I was one) and rather than seeing their own spiritual immaturity as something they are also responsible for they blame the Church. But look at the Saints!!! What made them different?

I noticed that too

@lois2997 I'm glad I wasn't the only one. However Kenny gave some great insight about Paul doing things in the temple for reconciliation or being a temple worker. I need to rewarch this tonight and read through everything but I still think it brings up a good point. Paul is administering reconciliation in these regards and not just Jesus. Now I may be saying this wrong but when I read it again I will jump in with my full understanding of Kenny's teaching and ultimately the Churches.

Nailed it!!!

@@KennyBurchard Dr Burchard, thank you for responding. I was wondering if you could address this notion held by other faith communities that one has to feel guilty to be Catholic. It is a subject that just won’t go away, and no one so far has been able to expound further on this accusation. Thank you and I enjoy your videos.

Welcome, David. Before I was ever Catholic (I was evangelical/pentecostal for 33 years), I can remember being frustrated about why there were so many Christians who all claimed to follow the Bible, but then they all interpreted it differently and came to wildly different conclusions. For the longest time I supposed that this was just "how it was" and that even God himself wanted it that way. What I discovered was that it was something else -- and this "something else" was warned about all through Church history, beginning with warnings from the Apostles themselves in the New Testament. An author who helped me put it all together was Dr. Brad S.. Gregory, who is a Church Historian and professor at Notre Dame. He wrote one of the most important books I have read on the "BUT WHY? -- BUT HOW?" questions. It's called "The Unintended Reformation." And it is a sweeping study of what has happened in the West over the past 500 years since Luther's "FIVE SOLAS" took root in the minds of untold numbers of people. In particular, his SOLA FIDE (Faith Alone), Dr. Gregory demonstrates, had the effect of radically individualizing a faith that was once held in common so that people now talk about "my faith" vs. "the faith." But very related to this is another of Luther's "solas" - namely, "Sola Scriptura" and very related to this, what John Wesley calls the "Pillar of the Reformation" which is "the right of private judgment." The right of private judgment gives each individual believer the right, prerogative, and even responsibility of interpreting the Bible for himself/herself, regardless of what any authoritative church might say it means. It also gave rise to Luther deciding that he didn't like entire texts of Scripture that had always been in the Christian Bible for 1,200 years -- and removing them. When each person has his own faith, his own interpretations of the Bible, and even the power to remove books of his own accord, very very very smart and devout people will come to very different conclusions, and will believe they have the right and responsiblity to act on those conclusions -- and will believe that in so doing, they are simply being faithful to God. In this way, Luther opened a door he cold not close behind him. He took to himself the right of private judgment, convinced millions of Christians that they had the same right, and -- like a shattered pane of safety glass -- millions and millions of Christians have created innumerable versions of Christianity. This pervasive notion, as Dr. Gregory shows in his scholarly work, also accounts for radical secularization, moral relativism, pluralism, and even (as we now see) the entire framework of epistemology moving from the realm of objectivity and science to subjectivity and feelings. "I feel like a man, though I have a woman's body," etc. etc. It is, in this cultural milieu, that a new kind of DOGMA has arisen and given way to the "Unintended Reformation" (back to Gregory's book) that Luther never imagined. He, and his ideas, have created the avalanche of confusion, subjectivity, and in some cases, insanity that we now have because the question of authority has moved from a Church founded by Jesus, to an individual person and his or her faith -- alone.

This is helpful. Thanks you. I’m ordering that book.

Gavin's play is to try to discredit Catholic theology by trying to plant a "reasonable doubt" about Catholic dogma particularly, and which has been overturned by people like Joe and others. Not that a reasonable doubt is good enough to overthrow established Catholic theology in any event.

He's not bashing Protestantism. That's not his message.

I bet you did not listen to when he had to day

As a protestant pastor he was a trained expert in protestant theology (at least one or more forms of that), and so was fully informed about what he was leaving and what he was converting to. In my experience ex-Catholics were never experts in Catholic theology--in fact they know very little of it.

No, it's not the same thing. I'll echo the other reply here - Kenny was a pastor, not some random pew sitter who slept through Sunday sermons and never attended a Bible study. He's speaking from a place of authority that the vast majority of former Catholics don't have. The majority of former Catholics never took hold of their faith in a personal manner and learned on anything but a surface level (if that). We can know this because of the incredibly basic errors they make about the Catholic faith when "refuting" it - things that can be found easily in the catechism with about two seconds of effort. If they are making such basic errors in facts (not even touching on their opinions), then we can see plainly they never took responsibility for their own learning. Also, Kenny doesn't make a habit of "well I was a protestant pastor" as a meme....he mostly brings it up when it's relevant to a mistake he made in his role as teacher in those years he was a pastor. He's attempting to undo some of the spiritual damage he created.

NO! He KNOWS Protestantism, fully, and left.

Awesome! Keep going! Take her to Mass and ask her to try to make a note of every time a biblical phrase is used, and whether or not they read as much Bible in her Church as you do.

Thank you!

Good point

Yep, it's the same tactic. But it cuts both ways. I can say: "I was an atheist and I now believe atheism is wrong because ______. Now I'm a Christian."

Thanks!!

I enjoyed my life as a Protestant. I was an ordained elder and thought I was serving the Lord. I had no desire of leaving my church. But when God speaks to you, you listen. As a Catholic, it does upset me that my church taught things not supported by scripture. I try to teach what is correct to Protestants on social media if they will listen. Most are trolls and just want to argue. People like that I pray for.

Wow! What a journey! That’s powerful! Your wife being ready to just become Catholic is somewhat miraculous! Bless you both!❤️🙏🏻

History! Reveals truth and condemns innovation.

He's the embodiment of the typical dishonest ex Catholic.

Yeah he’s the poster boy

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