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Examinig an original Lorenz M1863 cartridge 

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Parts of this video were filmed a few years ago when I had a chance to examine an excellent condition paper cartridge for the Lorenz rifles. Some details you will not find anywhere else. Enjoy!
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Video about the tactics and rifles of the Austrian-Prussian war of 1866: • Tactics and rifles of ...
Magyar szöveg: kapszli.hu/egy-eredeti-1863-m...
0:00 Intro
1:30 Changing from Lorenz to Podewils bullet
2:52 The M1863 cartridge
3:43 The powder in the cartridge
6:09 Making the Lorenz cartridge

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Комментарии : 64   
@dangvorbei5304
@dangvorbei5304 26 дней назад
Thunk about all of the history that cartridge had to survive to serve as a technical example. Military museums have practical purposes aside from housing curiosities. Great video!
@robertrobert7924
@robertrobert7924 26 дней назад
Love having my morning coffee with you.
@BikerJim74
@BikerJim74 26 дней назад
It's amazing they let you pour out the powder and examine it. Super cool
@dangvorbei5304
@dangvorbei5304 26 дней назад
There are only just so many guys on the planet they'll allow to do that. That says something.
@Afro408
@Afro408 26 дней назад
Excellent little bit of research. 😊👍
@allanburt5250
@allanburt5250 26 дней назад
Fascinating peace of history, thanks for sharing with us 👍
@ludo9234
@ludo9234 22 дня назад
Excellent video as usual.
@iac4357
@iac4357 24 дня назад
Fantastic video. Thanks !
@saoirse5308
@saoirse5308 26 дней назад
I'm a bit surprised by the pure Tallow. Either they had very moderate summers where they fought or their lube melted. My lube is Bear fat 30%, Tallow 60% & bees wax 10%. In the winter I sometimes leave out the beeswax but that winter mix becomes a liquid at about 26.6 Celsius
@ridgerunner5772
@ridgerunner5772 26 дней назад
Always spot on with precise demonstration of well researched procedure with zero fluff...... Much appreciation
@stevensheldon9271
@stevensheldon9271 26 дней назад
Thank you so much for this video! Perfect timing as I just acquired a Pedersoli Lorenz musket!
@capandball
@capandball 26 дней назад
That's a good rifle! Good choice!
@user-jj3hi3gh4u
@user-jj3hi3gh4u 25 дней назад
Interesting thank you
@dr.durellshepard398
@dr.durellshepard398 26 дней назад
Thank you Sir, Very interesting. Köszönöm.
@MrTwiggy93
@MrTwiggy93 26 дней назад
Amazing!
@jwnagy
@jwnagy 26 дней назад
Fantastic video!
@roberthruby5157
@roberthruby5157 19 дней назад
Excellent video!
@ElChris816
@ElChris816 25 дней назад
I really enjoy these types of videos.
@georgeloveless4176
@georgeloveless4176 26 дней назад
Just starting my day with coffee and your video is the best. Well done and thanks again.
@davidfranklin1885
@davidfranklin1885 25 дней назад
Always enjoy your history lessons on black powder munitions. Dave in USA
@jenzenigy-mf2xi
@jenzenigy-mf2xi 26 дней назад
wow
@laurentdevaux5617
@laurentdevaux5617 24 дня назад
Really interesting, though I was quite afraid when I saw the professor beginning to open the cartridge... but it's obvious he respected this rare witness of past history, so thanks and well done. I remember I saw last year a video of a guy opening an authentic box (not a cartridge, a complete box !) of Enfield Snider cartridges before firing them... I made a remark, saying it was a kind of crime against history and totally pointless, but guess what ? This sucker laughed at me... Personnally, I had the chance to find some thirty years ago a very well preserved paper cartridge for French An IX musket dating from the Napoleonic period or the years just after (don't ask me how I know that, it's linked with the place where it was discovered by the seller, there were three of them, no more). Since then, I put it in a glass tube and never open this tube, let alone open the cartridge. It survived such a long time that I won't even dare to touch it...
@BocageTiger
@BocageTiger 26 дней назад
Excellent and informative; thank you for posting! Will you have a video of you using them?
@capandball
@capandball 26 дней назад
I already have quite few about replicating the Lorenz load.
@user-wg2sf7vg6h
@user-wg2sf7vg6h 26 дней назад
Круто! 😎👍
@user-xj9if8tz5s
@user-xj9if8tz5s 26 дней назад
Какие руки!!!!
@weedwacker1716
@weedwacker1716 25 дней назад
Hello, Herr Doktor Professor, it is a delight to once again here the mellifluous tones of the bright and beautiful Hunglish language. I am asking today if you are familiar with a relatively new RU-vid channel called Everything Black Powder. Apologies if this is the one hundredth time you have been asked this. The gentleman I refer to is making excellent videos about all things black powder and is of particular interest because he demonstrates how to make antique muzzle loading propellant from base materials.
@elgato3502
@elgato3502 26 дней назад
Шикарно! Прекрасне відео! Мій найулюбленіший канал. Саме та тема військово-історичної реконструкції, якій я присвячую свій час. 👍👍👍🇺🇦
@olibertosoto5470
@olibertosoto5470 26 дней назад
I was going to ask about the loading procedure with the backwards lead but got the answer from one of the comments.
@Tammy-un3ql
@Tammy-un3ql 26 дней назад
👌👌👍👍
@hutchnc
@hutchnc 25 дней назад
Sir...what are the dimensions of the 3 papers to make the cartridge...hard to follow the video...Thanks !!
@ricardoM113
@ricardoM113 26 дней назад
Como siempre su página es excelente. Lastima que lo presenta solo en ingles. Saludos desde Uruguay.
@556suppressor
@556suppressor 26 дней назад
Loading my Civil War Zouave seems so much easier and faster.
@timothyruggles3031
@timothyruggles3031 26 дней назад
Exact duplicate out standing now to duplicate the black powder
@TiglathPileser3
@TiglathPileser3 18 дней назад
I am very curious about the lab results, especially the density. Mid 19th century powder was at the top of its development. Your nation depended on your military's powder. I would love to compare 18 and 19th century powders.
@gondolaservicepeschieradel4115
@gondolaservicepeschieradel4115 18 дней назад
@Capandball Hy Balazs, what kind of lubrification you put on the end of the paper cartridge to lube the bullet?
@petergosden1
@petergosden1 26 дней назад
Great video, yet again. Thank you. I have my own Lorenz M1863 here in the UK. You demonstrated the cartridge with the compression bullet. I have a mold being made in Germany for the later Minie style Podewils type bullet but cannot find one who can make the compression type. Do you know such a maker? I believe the Pedersoli example is wider than the original Thank you. Peter.
@capandball
@capandball 26 дней назад
Pedersoli has a compression bullet mold. I had my own made by a local gunsmith, but he is not in business anymore unfortunately.
@capandball
@capandball 26 дней назад
By the way the 1863 Lorenz is on my bucket list. I have a mint bore for that rifle for 10 years now, and searvhing for a stock and lock.
@petergosden1
@petergosden1 26 дней назад
@@capandball Thank you. I shall keep searching. My rifle has the unusual, for the Lorenz, leaf sight with sliding bar. Peter.
@KR-hg8be
@KR-hg8be 26 дней назад
When you said the powder was made of coal, do you mean like heating coal? Ive never heard of powder being made of anything but charcoal before.
@capandball
@capandball 25 дней назад
It is charcoal of course.
@aethelstanaegen36
@aethelstanaegen36 25 дней назад
Do you think the powder was originally that polished, or has it become more polished over the last century as the cartridge is moved/handled/etc?
@capandball
@capandball 25 дней назад
To decide that I'll have to check other cartridges from the same type. In my opinion it was that polished.
@DT-ww4gv
@DT-ww4gv 26 дней назад
Did you say beef tallow for the lubricant?
@capandball
@capandball 26 дней назад
Yes.
@iobey
@iobey 26 дней назад
Speaking of Austrian muskets, do you have M1784 with you? Even if it isn't in live fire condition, we would like to know more about its self-priming barrel structure.
@capandball
@capandball 26 дней назад
Yes, I have one. Not for live fire, but can handle blanks for sure.
@iobey
@iobey 26 дней назад
@@capandball Even when it can handle blanks only, we would still like to learn more about its history. It would be better if we can see the diagram of M1784's inner structure.
@AThousandYoung
@AThousandYoung 26 дней назад
7:30 Why is the bullet pointing towards the rest of the cartridge? Isn't that backwards?
@capandball
@capandball 26 дней назад
It should be loaded with the paper cover, that's why it is backwards.
@stevensheldon9271
@stevensheldon9271 26 дней назад
Like the British Enfield cartridges, these were designed to be stuck into the muzzle with the paper on the bullet. The loading mechanism was to tear off the tail of the cartridge, pour in the powder, then flip the cartridge over 180 degrees and stick the bullet end into the muzzle. Once it was inserted to the level of the lubricant, the rest of the cartridge was snapped off, leaving a paper-patched bullet in the muzzle. This was then driven home with the ramrod.
@capandball
@capandball 26 дней назад
@@stevensheldon9271 Exactly!
@napalmholocaust9093
@napalmholocaust9093 26 дней назад
Tallow melts in your hand. The only way to improve it alone is to select only hard fat to render like caul fat. I know a lot of people are shaking their head at it alone, the animal matters as well. I've only eaten bear but I guess the tallow is better from them. Sure is gamey tho. And sheep is downright offensive. Never keep it from deer either. Are you just using beef then?
@elburropeligroso4689
@elburropeligroso4689 26 дней назад
First
@maringarcia95
@maringarcia95 26 дней назад
Second!
@capandball
@capandball 26 дней назад
Fast as Billy the Kid. :)
@ethankaryadi37
@ethankaryadi37 26 дней назад
Hi. Any plans on doing an EDC showcase video? Or perhaps even a livestream for audience interactions outside of the comments section? Take care.
@dangvorbei5304
@dangvorbei5304 26 дней назад
I always thought a Lorenz was his EDC.
@capandball
@capandball 26 дней назад
@@dangvorbei5304 No, it's not flintlock. :)
@capandball
@capandball 26 дней назад
That makes sense.
@sergej23kv
@sergej23kv 25 дней назад
I'm wondering why are you not using some gloves when handling things like this?
@soospeter3415
@soospeter3415 26 дней назад
Ismerős helyszín... 🥲
@capandball
@capandball 26 дней назад
Régi szép idők!
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