EXPAT MENTAL HEALTH IN Thailand 2: Alcohol, Thai girls, Scams, Money, Social Media. A very bad mix 

Well done!

I am very sorry to hear. May I ask how much the age difference was ?

Knew a friend with a similar story, she was a beauty queen, young attractive, amazing in bed, but had the personality of a trash bin, plus had two kids! He managed to escape, just, but it was hard on him.

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Just don’t get it how the man can’t figure out the situation and felt in the trap.

Thank you very much Scott, definitely a tale of sadness but hard to sympathize !!

well told!

And there's still a line of them waiting for the same thing too!

Thinking with the wrong head.

@@drirene57 I get what you're saying but in this kind of story I disagree. It's neither 'head' but its the heart. I feel like I've seen it (and been him?) so many times now. It's men who've had tragic divorce(s) and/or strings of failed attempts, some just never really met the right one and middle age comes along. 40 is coming and going, 50 arrives. This kind of man can have several converging matters of the heart: 1. What is life without someone to love, the special other, a romantic at heart really, marriage, a home, get old together 2. Whether it's to show the parents, the circle of friends and family or an ex-wife ex/gf - finally he's got a pretty lady! 3. The existential crisis of middling-aged men that stares into the abyss. What gives life meaning? This is why a brilliant MIT professor got duped into carrying drugs for a fictional South American 'fiance', this is why a seemingly street savvy British bus driver is absolutely trusting and to the end believing it's surely all worth it and nope he's no dummy, no naive fool, is otherwise good at warning other mates of nefarious women and yet he goes blind. It's how Marc Anthony, capable of brilliant greatness and outsmarting entire armies kills himself over some Egyptian woman after effing his life, her life, his countrymen and friends lives too and even hers. (she probably didn't kill herself and split some money with her aunty) and on it goes. This kind of man isn't a teenage boy nor even a desperate 40 year old virgin either but almost certainly did all that just fine for plenty of years and would, if anything, are now desperate for something beyond sex, more meaningful and to their own peril, for reasons beyond the physical pleasures of life. These are matters of the heart imo, almost always.

@@theasianjaywalker4455 they do it to teenage boys too. People with aspergers, autism, any social anxiety, trauma’s.. its not only thai either, many asian girls have a few guys online to cash a monthly stipend, promising them everything but eventually deliver nothing..

i think this every time is see someone talk about being scammed, it my be that i dont trust people but you can all ways see them a mile off. but as i said tthat my just be me but there are people out there that cant see it, i had a frend that had her facebook hacked and the account sent me 1 message and all it said was "hi how are you" and just from that i know it was not her. but not everyone is thatt lucky i guess.

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍4 Thailand!

If only all other countries were that wise, too many politicians allowing foreign nationals to buy what isn't theirs.

My dad is a fan, and I'm familiar with those!

Hi Blue Dragon, thanks for the kind words! I set out to make the channel as different to the other vloggers personalities as I could. Maybe I should be more egocentric and a narcissist to get the subscribers but I don't know how I can do that without looking like some phoney so I avoid all that boasting and virtue signalling. The guys at Thailand Bound were nice enough to let me use their pics as I thought it best represented John!

@@BangkokPat keep it as it is. Very different from many other vloggers.. 👊

Thanks Robin, John was duped but he'd not bothered to resarch online about the pitfalls of such relationships. Like many guys, they think it'll be different for them.

Stick with it mate, it gets better!

@@BangkokPat You're right, it did...

Thank you very much, I had to dramatise it a little and not just stand there talking with no visual! Glad you liked it.

Thanks Chai mate, hope you're doing good on the beaches of koh Samet, looks lovely there.

Hi Jimmy great to hear from you, glad you liked the videos. John had himself to blame but nobody deserves to be driven to suicide. Like many before him and many after, it's a cycle that'll go on and on. A fool and his money are soon parted.

@@BangkokPat true. John should’ve sorted out his drinking problem BEFORE departing the UK. He should’ve travelled there on holiday a few times. Heck, he needed to clean himself up! He may have eventually met someone that didn’t require money money money and have a normal life anywhere in the World. He thought a woman can fix it. No. Fix yourself first! Great video. 👍

Thanks, a painful story indeed, and men don't learn from mistakes..... & there's still a queue of guys waiting to come into Thailand, to go through the same thing.

Thanks Robert, it's not all doom and gloom. For every failure there's success stories, must depend on circumstances and attitudes, expectations and all that. Good to hear that you're very much in a great situation. Poor old John didn't have it so easy but he's got himself to blame as well.

@@BangkokPat yes - one needs plenty of life experience before switching to a place like Thailand. Having said that I am another Thai wife success story - 28 years already. Even if I don't last another year it was successful on a European scale. BTW: there are plenty of online love stories reversing the sexes. I guess people only see what they want.

Usually single Mums are looking for help, not love.

Thanks Kurt, I'm working on something similar at the moment.

Thanks, in my regular videos I'm so used to moving between locations that I thought it'd be a bit boring just standing or sitting in one place for the whole story, or rather, sorry saga...

Thanks Steve, it's a common theme for many guys who believe their girl is different and would never do that.

Hi Mitch, thanks for the kind words, familiar tale of shattered dreams and mistakes, but with a twist!

Not sure who thought he was a bigger mug, the family or the lawyer. Sad story but it happens over and over. Thanks mate.

You can I think , meet someone ‘low key’ and not a transactional girl .. but yes few and far between .. pot luck I guess

Isn’t it always transactional. I have a very rich older friend in the UK who is and older guy and he’s with a young sexy blonde. He understands the deal and doesn’t let her take him for more than he can afford. I think that’s the key here unless you are happily married. Understand what the deal is. They want you for 1 purpose and 1 purpose only. You want them for 1 purpose only. Usually because we are older men and they are gorgeous SE Asians that are the stuff of male fantasy. As I said earlier, don’t pay what you can’t afford long term. As my friend said to me. “Don’t ever marry the pretty ones”🤣

Agree with this comment.

Common Sense. Worldwide.

You mean trans-actional? XD

Thanks, would like to think many would get a short sharp shock from stories like this but not quite!!

Thanks Jimbo mate, It's a well worn path travelled but I thought this one had a few twists that needed to be told. Robbo was a fearsome looking guy when I was a kid, and many writers were in awe. I never knew him personally but his spat with Banksy said a lot about how selective the mainstream are when it comes to balls!!

Thanks Franko, It happens to quite a few old women who fall for young waiters in Latin America, I read a story on it, some of those young guys are so much like these Thai women you hear about. But as you say it's not only Thailand!

Yeah,it was sad that. Been a few ,I hope not daily thou.c19 has mixed things up even more for relationships,both Thai n none Thai having bad heads. Let's hope ppl get more information from ppl like pat and the others 🙏

Thanks Andy...I think that's not possible! Many of those guys don't think with their brains...

Thanks Coleen, unfortunetely it's a common story that men are still falling victim of.

Thanks Malcolm, nice to hear from you, it's a cliche but a bit of a twist and variation. Nobodys left their brains at the airport for a while due to covid but when everything gets back to some normality the cycle will start again!

Hi Luke, hope you're good. They both invented themselves and fantasised I think, and when these two online entities meet, things don't go to plan. Happens a lot, happened to me with online dating but I was only doing it in Bangkok, I met many dates who weren't the person they made out to be (and in some cases the same size as their photos) and on a couple of occasions I had to feign illness and leave, it was that bad. Not sure if John deserved what he got but a little research beforehand would have done done wonders for the outcome.

Thanks Stephen, I'm planning to add a couple more to this series in the next few weeks.

@@BangkokPat yes more like this please 🙏

Thanks very much, so glad you've found the channel mate. I just be realistic, not trying to shock anyone, as many already know what it's all about.

Thanks James, That was a story made up of bits of a story I heard in 2006-7. Didn't know the guy personally. I saw your vid last week and was thinking to do another vid about loneliness and go a bit deeper, stuff about what triggers guys into such sad situations, and be totally open and honest about the causes. Might get a few dislikes but some things need airing. Cheers mate.

@@BangkokPat Men are led into these situations due to being lonely and vulnerable. These poor girls know this, its their only hope to make a better life. I know many of us have had near misses until we woke up, me included.

agreed, really well produced video with deep meaning!

Thanks Will, it's a sad tale that plays out over and over. But luckily there's nobody close to me whose suffered such a thing.

Thanks Grant. I don't think John was a fan but I thought it'd be nice to sneak that in...I've seen every Minder and I'm proud to say so. I still watch the odd episode when I fancy a bit of escapsim into 1980s London....Series 5 was full of great moments. can't pick one. Hypnotising Rita was a favourite as is What Makes Shamy Run. They're all brilliant.

Thanks! I was wondering if I'd get away with doing another similar story, maybe one with a happier ending. I got a couple from the old days.

@@BangkokPat of course you have Patrick and you done this one well. I saw a comment after I heard the fella topped himself. Shame to see you had no empathy when you replied.(it was an early comment I think) Hope BKK ain't jading you . I think many of us go thru that don't wanna be wrapped round farangs in general but I don't like them who give that whiff of superiority.Its a fine line imo .comes with wisdom I think Pat. You're a North LdN lad I believe A bit different in many ways here eh . All the breast Pat

Thanks Martin, John definitely wasn't on TD, they wouldn't be that awful. I spent over a decade on TD as you know. John could have been on one of several forums, I don't directly know, all I read was ''John took a lot of shit online, people were telling him things like....'' so you can make an educated guess.

Thanks very much! Great to hear that.

Cheers Keith.

Cheers Jon, sad tale of a guy who was deluded in many ways.

Thanks Niklas, glad to see you joined the stream today! Will be making another video like this next week.

There will always be space for more. There is a queue waiting to get in here and fall for that same old story again and again.

LOS = Land of Scams. Heard too many such stories.

Right, land of smiles as soon as a farang comes in sight....

Yeah but he was old (like me) and was familiar with the world before the internet. He knew the difference between reality and the online fake reality.

Hey, thanks, nice to hear from you. Those relationships do exist and I'd imagine some are working, maybe the guy has an endless supply of cash, who knows. Who else is taking part in this PPV fight? Another vlogger? Would be intruiged to know who you have in mind...

@@BangkokPat Thairish Pete wanted somebody to sort out the guy that Mayweather could not earlier this week haha….

@@BangkokPat it’s a thread under Thairish Times “Community” tab

Glad you enjoyed it, cheers!

There's no shortage of Johns. Thousands are doing what Johns do right at this moment!

Thanks Max, It's definitely a familiar tale and many never learn!

Hi Rob, there's not a lot available for the general public unless you're really wealthy I suspect. The only two places online of any use were the links in below both videos, nothing really has ever been set up for foreigners to seek help and talk, I suspect there are a few counsellours available but not sure for how much and if they're foreigners. It's something I'm looking into for another video mate.

Thanks OFAB, typical tale but with a sad twist.. The airport departure tax is actually storage fee for guys brains, they pick up when they're leaving Thailand. Women don't have to pay it, I believe......(!!)

She Wes smiling when John was not

How come you have no content on your channel?

Thanks very much 👍

Many Johns as well!! In every sense of the word. Common tale of course as many men don't think with their brains.

Thanks mate, A bit of a different vibe than usual but I'm back out on the road around BKK this week. A lot less talking parts to shoot!

It's based on a story I was told and I didn't know the guy personally.

@@BangkokPat Thank you for the reply. I'm surprised you remembered it so very well.

@@toni4729 The guys who told me said he was telling the story to serve as a lesson to others!

@@BangkokPat I'm not at all surprised, I'm just sorry to hear about the way he ended up. Drink wouldn't have been any help of course. It's a bottomless pit.

And he was quick to tell everyone like it was some big revelation.

The online world can be unforgiving, and John had an audience to please. Sadly it comes with a downside.

Thank you Michael, he was definitely naiive but didn't realise until too late. That's why I said the question was open ended at the start, because there is no answer as to why these guys take such risks with these women!

Committed to the dream in his mind. Trying to be optimistic etc. That's the charitable way to look at things, we've all been like this in life at one point, or several. At my age (a hair from 40) I've got enough experience to earn my cynicism.

It can happen bus driver falls in love then it go's south and he's an alcoholic can't deal with it, it happens alot normally they go broke and leap out of there condo. So glad I have over a year sober. I did this same thing and it worked for me we've been married 13 years, RIP driver.

Tragic, but he was pretty clueless and couldn't read the signals, sadly.

@@BangkokPat lets hope these videos make more people aware of situations like these 👍

@@BangkokPat do you have any other videos with stories like this where can I find them?

@@mactvtravel That was the only one like that I did but my playlist about Expat life & living in Thailand has a few other videos

Hey Steve, hope you're well, and you're absolutely right, he can only blame himself. He couldn't even take the time to do a bit of research or use common sense. He could've found a few hundred stories online!!!

Hi Peter, bit of a tragic ending but it goes to show, there's always a queue of mugs in line. Bit of reserach and brains would help but many leave their brains at the airport as you know!

Thanks Peter, we are due another video like this, a part 3, I am currently working on it.

@@BangkokPat do y have a link for this one

@@jonhobson3592 I haven't made Part 3 yet!

@@BangkokPat ok 🙈

So comical that it's tragic that guys actually think these types of women are all Thailand has to offer. But those that only hang out in places like Pattaya think all of Thailand is like that and become jaded, bitter and angry that it's not the paradise that they expected.

Thanks Liro, not always a happy ending. Back to my regular videos for now anyway!!

@@BangkokPat I wouldn’t mind more of these though!

Should of stayed in uk .

Sure is, sad to see so many fall for it but men don't always think with their brains....

Thanks again!👍

Very sad indeed, many more like that as well that we never hear about.

23 years here too it’s very easy to live without the headaches and pitfalls

Many Thanks Shinn, glad you like it.

Glad you got your cat fix, I understand your pain. Plenty of cats in the next video, I promise.

​@@BangkokPat Cats are awesome and strange animals - as long as they not living in my home :D

Thanks Paulie, they sure earned their money, it's as if they all knew the script! It's a well trodden road, even now there are men lined up waiting to arrive and meet their online GFs for the first time after chatting for over 18 months now!

@@BangkokPat I'm sure you are right Pat. By and large, these are men who have managed to reach their middle ages and have never learned to relate to women in their own country as human beings. Suddenly in a moment of clarity they decide that the subservient Asian woman is the answer...........

@@paulietv2162 Then they complain that they can't find deep and meaningful conversations with these simple women they hand over all this cash to..

Thanks! I get a few thumbs down occasionally, can't make everyone happy. I don't thinkI've ever given a thumbs down on a video, it doesn't ever cross my mind!

Thanks! I thought the various locations would be less boring than me sitting on a chair telling the whole thing. There's no telling guys like John, he doesn't use his brain in his head. Many stories like his, sadly.