Explained: How do the PGMOL appoint officials to matches?

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Following Nottingham Forest's suggestion that VAR Stuart Atwell is a Luton fan, Sky Sports News reporter Rob Dorsett explains how the PGMOL appoint officials to matches.
Forest accused Attwell, the VAR for their acrimonious 2-0 defeat at Goodison Park, of being a Luton fan after a series of appeals for penalties by the away side were turned down.
Forest were waved away on three separate occasions by match referee Anthony Taylor with the on-field decisions endorsed by Attwell in the VAR hub.
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@uk_paul_6261 Месяц назад

The PGMOL should be charged Forest are the victims here

@matthewbaker2573 Месяц назад

How come Mr Oliver, who had a private contract out in UAE, seems to be favoring City? a hand ball some how resulting in a goal kick this time surely there's something going on there

@reluctantsocialist2670 Месяц назад

This is what the media should be concentrating on, look at the league table for teams screwed by VAR, Liverpool are the worst hit, Arsenal have been hit badly too, City have benefited however. Their owners are from Abu Dhabi, part of the UAE, where Oliver was paid to referee in a league owned by City's owners. Now, no one is saying he's corrupt (even if the facts make it look that way) but that's a conflict of interest that shouldn't be allowed to happen. Corruption happens in places it's allowed to happen. Remember when Colina had to retire from reffing because he did an advert for the sponsors on Milan's shirt? That was in Italy, home of football corruption and even they wouldn't let that fly

@AliKhatri18177 Месяц назад

@@reluctantsocialist2670Its everyone except city, united get destroyed by refs everyweek

@kylephaneuf9975 Месяц назад

These “elite” officials are rubbish. Any school kid who is given the black and white rules of the game could do much better.

@stedgeHENDERSOn Месяц назад

media rushing to run damage control for their mates at PGMOL

@zuesnastrio3062 Месяц назад

Most corrupt officiating in the world and its not even close.

@Bobbiez_editz Месяц назад

It has alwyas been like dis in the prem since the 2000s

@KopJustin Месяц назад

@@Bobbiez_editz I would say way back since the inception of the premier league

@jo_magpie Месяц назад

you have no idea what corruption is😂

@Bobbiez_editz Месяц назад

@@KopJustin Fair point

@zuesnastrio3062 Месяц назад

@@jo_magpie if thats not corrupt idk what is. Literally every team got affected except for one. And everyone knows who it is, why did michael oliver go to referee a match in the uae?

@kylephaneuf9975 Месяц назад

The proper response would be to investigate the banking and assets of friends and family. If you think boxing was the only sport with fixing due to bets, you’re naive.

@user-cn9yh1en1z Месяц назад

Sky are basically running pgmol propeganda at this rate

@AItakover Месяц назад

and talksport.... who wants to listen to this rubbish 😂

@dzeklakovic7568 Месяц назад

Handball against Wan Bissaka, but no handball against Grealish? Oliver is getting his pockets stuffed by UAE

@thefootballpunnedit Месяц назад

or Ashley Young who's arm was outstretched away from his body

@abelmakori Месяц назад

It's unfair that Nottingham Forest are going to be punished for this, for voicing their concerns.

@freddiefreeman4119 Месяц назад

If they are, you will then see Marinakis in full force. This is a business a multimillion pound business

@user-fh3dv5pb7u Месяц назад

They didn't voice their concerns, they crossed the line by insinuating that an official was bias. Voicing their concern would have been making a formal statement that they did not agree with some of the decisions in the game and asking for some sort of review or reform. Targeting an individual official was childish and hugely unprofessional. A draw would have been the best result for Luton anyway, so not only was this accusation wrong, it was also illogical.

@abdolrezamalek6875 Месяц назад

If pgmol which is a limited company want to be independent of club then they should be answerable to the clubs, which are businesses aswell, when their mistakes leads to financial loss to the clubs

@neilfound3506 Месяц назад

No they should be answerable to the FA & Premier League, the clubs cannot have any control over officials, that would only cause even more havoc

@leeandrew6555 Месяц назад

Forest dropped an absolute hand grenade of a tweet and then went silent. Absolute masterclass in upsetting the applecart. Everyone knows sky would take a different stance if yesterday's game was City vs Liverpool and an Arsenal fan was on VAR. Especially Nev and Carragher, absolute puppets.

@therealbennett Месяц назад

Bobby Madley got removed from Bristol City vs Birmingham because he was a Huddersfield fan and they are both fighting for relegation, surely this is the same situation, but they havnt changed him.

@nottingham1 Месяц назад

Nottingham has balls . Saying what everyone is thinking . This is for football . Not just Nottingham Forest . Sack these refs

@agentancelotti2985 Месяц назад

Said no one outside Nottingham

@nottingham1 Месяц назад

@@agentancelotti2985 say alot of people outside Nottingham. 50 million views . Someone needs to do it .

@agentancelotti2985 Месяц назад

@@nottingham1 views don’t make opinions I agree you should of had 2 pens but let’s not diversify from your terrible performance and manager and even if you scored the 2 pens it’s only a draw which Luton would have preferred so makes no sense

@lukew6725 Месяц назад

@@agentancelotti2985Literally everyone is saying that besides the media!

@johnhayes1635 Месяц назад

A ref gets three decisions incorrect in a row And somehow its the teams fault

@user-fh3dv5pb7u Месяц назад

The team is not at fault for the officials' decisions, but their reaction to them. They should have released a formal statement that they were not happy with the decisions in the game, asking for some sort of review or reform of VAR. Saying an official was a Luton fan and insinuating he was bias is where they crossed the line.

@Kaiser6376 Месяц назад

We don’t know if Stuart Atwell is a luton fan? Yes we do, there’s an article stating this.

@joso7228 Месяц назад

Why is the Premier League corrupt? It is. Everyone makes enough money and the Big Teams can win without any help. Just give us a Fair Game before we say 'goodbye'. To be honest I already have.

@ragecandy Месяц назад

how are the pgmol the victims lol

@Itssoconfusing Месяц назад

And here comes operation protect the pgmol……

@U_Too Месяц назад

In England the Victim (Nottingham Forest) is Accused that's unbelievable 😢😢😢

@M-E_123 Месяц назад

Forest need to back up their accusation or they get charged with undermining the integrity of the game. No other options.

@user-fh3dv5pb7u Месяц назад

If you swear at me at I punch you in the face, I will get in trouble. Its the same here. Even if the decisions were incorrect, insinuating the official was bias is crossing the line (the proverbial punch). If they had released a formal statement disagreeing with the 3 decisions and asking for review or reform of VAR they would have had everyone on their side. Forest made the punch, and now they will be lucky to get away with a fine for their behaviour.

@neilkwok Месяц назад

The fact that an ex-official has indirectly accused the PGMOL of biased decisions is quite damning. It suggests that decisions really do get influenced by a refs feelings towards a particular team. This season has been especially bad. Before VAR, refs had an excuse, but now they simply don't. The decisions have been especially egregious to the point you have to question the PGMOL of misconduct

@Killbill525 Месяц назад

I'd rather watch Goldbridge and other club fans than these mainstream clowns

@robinsontodd79 Месяц назад

*STOP PROTECTING THESE MATCH FIXING REFS*

@DonCrowseppe Месяц назад

match fixing

@AItakover Месяц назад

corruption....! the media are not allowed to say. 😮😅😊

@bevinmatafwali401 Месяц назад

If NFFC get relegated by the decisions made against Everton, they will lose millions of pounds in revenue. These same premier league guys will be on NFFC for losses which their referees put them in. The consistency in referee decisions in EPL is horrible.

@brxan3096 Месяц назад

"And in actual fact Stuart Atwell has a fantastic record as a VAR official" Is Rob Dorsett actually serious?! What an absolute joke. I've seen that clown make repeated errors on VAR on numerous occasions just THIS season alone, never mind previous years. The only people involved in the game that can make huge errors & go home knowing they won't face any sort of punishment is match officials because we're not supposed to hurt their precious little feelings. Managers, coaches, players, even backroom staff will face some level of scrutiny if they don't perform to a certain standard but these refs can go around doing whatever they want & will have Sky & all these other broadcasters together with their puppets rushing to their defence. I don't even support any one of the teams involved in yesterday's games within the relegation scrap but it's an embarassment what happened. It's supposedly the "Best league" in the world & has some of the worst referees in the top leagues in Europe.

@M-E_123 Месяц назад

I agree, Atwell has been dropping howlers all season. But that's not enough to accuse him of match fixing. In fact, it suggests he's just a cr*p ref.

@vestonmansaram7452 Месяц назад

We should go back to where teams, were able to score officials for each matches

@Dr75532 Месяц назад

Carra calling it out is STAGGERING 😮

@AItakover Месяц назад

protecting his media job.... what a soulless man

@princethawani1351 Месяц назад

Same people that calls FIFA corrupt are behind PGMOL shame

@c0astarianabr0ad Месяц назад

Every club supporter need to support forest so that the FA and pgmol know that they need to be better

@M-E_123 Месяц назад

Disagree. I think they're all incompetent & the standard they are held to is too low. Too much looking to explain/excuse mistakes rather than putting thing's in place making sure the same errors don't happen again. But I don't think they are corrupt and don't support statements making that accusation. Forest's owner trying to influence which referee's take charge of their matches is crossing a line. Club's should have no say over who referee's their games - it would be a cheats charter. I support reform to improve referee standards. Not making inflammatory statements to try and bully them into making better decisions. And want my club to have no part in it.

@user-fh3dv5pb7u Месяц назад

The reality is that neutrals see this reaction by Forest as childish and unprofessional. Its one thing to disagree with decisions, its another to make accusations of an official being bias. As a neutral I am sure I am not alone in hoping Luton stay up and Forest go down, because not only have they cheated by breaking FFP, they are attacking officials too.

@oluwaseyeajiboye3900 Месяц назад

Can we discuss if the 3 situations werje mistakes of the VAR? If they are then NFFC has a point

@user-fh3dv5pb7u Месяц назад

If Forest had released a statement disagreeing with the 3 decisions and asking for review of them or reform of VAR then these would have analysed in detail by fans, the media and officials. The fact they made an accusation that the VAR official was biased against them, has waved goodbye to this conversation.

@juvwon Месяц назад

It's one of two things, either the PGMOL puts consistently incompetent refs in charge of decisions, which means they need to be stepped down or they are complicit in the biased decisions or lack thereof, which means they are corrupt.

@sonicichigo5962 Месяц назад

Wouldn't mark clattenberg who was a referee of probably spoke to stuart atwell about there favourite teams in the past YES so clattenberg probably knew atwell was a luton fan so it is a conflict of intress as atwell could make decisions favour luton also atwell should be suspended for a year and get no money for that time he CHEATED

@tigergooner7214 Месяц назад

Didn't Ivan Toney get an 8 month ban 😮

@whoknew2273 Месяц назад

They put an ad in the Local Paper next stupid question 😂

@DiReal_Donclassy Месяц назад

The other 2 may be disputed, but that handball of Ashely Young that sent the ball to the corner was a clear penalty. Funnily, the entire 3 instances bothered around only Ashley Young. It's upsetting that whenever a club feel they're hard done by the ref, FA silences them by a huge fine, which is very wrong.

@martinwu735 Месяц назад

shouldnt pgmol make investigation into the 3 incidents instead of forest's statement?

@JoeyLoganoIsTheGreatest68 Месяц назад

Stuart Atwell is terrible VAR official. How quikly they forgot City Liverpool game. Doku foul on MacAllister. He is acoward

@M-E_123 Месяц назад

At least these decisions are consistent with the one made in that game. Has video contradicting what the onfield ref said happened & took no action to correct them by sending to the monitor. He's been making howlers all season. Forest going to struggle to prove he's anything more than incompetent.

@androsc1418 Месяц назад

Make it compulsory for the referees to go to the screen at ALL time.

@M-E_123 Месяц назад

@androsc1418 that's not the answer. Rather have no VAR at all than that. What a terrible suggestion. Imagine being in the stadium watching the referee go to the monitor every 5 minutes. If anything should be a time limit on VAR reviews.

@androsc1418 Месяц назад

@@M-E_123 The match ref cannot deflect the blame on the VAR.

@user-ho8hk7ns9j Месяц назад

Poor explanation, what about other match officials whose family have season tickets at Luton. If something posity comes out this then its been worth it. I have seen some other incidents throughout the season which are a lesser degree ,punished. Their is truly no standard to rule by, so that brings the game into disrepute.

@user-cs1dt2xw4c Месяц назад

Its been going on for years , the game is bent and same clubs winning the same trophys year after year .

@AItakover Месяц назад

correct

@AItakover Месяц назад

how they appoint : Howard Webb sits at the end of a long table and laughs manically as Michael Oliver plots about how to restore united to its former glories

@travisgetten5083 Месяц назад

They are just talking the views what about the comments am with Nottingham forest

@Skantezz Месяц назад

Answer: Bribes, corruption.

@trekwars1074 Месяц назад

Stop sending them to Dubai

@chibuezenwokorobia5594 Месяц назад

Why not employ more hands or use guys from championship

@user-nc2td8lq4r Месяц назад

Blah blah blah same old story not held accountable!!!

@dwainegiltrap5807 Месяц назад

PGMOL question why their elite officials were not selected for international tournaments. Who on earth would dream of them officiating a World Cup final?

@somedaysoonsunshine 28 дней назад

Fa should investigate corruption in VAR integrity instead.EPL Refereeing has been abysmal. All rivals of City have been consistently unfairly at critical moments in the game. M. City however will only get VAR decisions against them when they are 3-0 up or it's too easy a decision (and even then...) .

@joeking88 Месяц назад

I love the “we are considering our options”. I bet the FA are having a laugh at that

@coopz1969 Месяц назад

So forest will get charged for speaking the truth 🤔

@kittjonge Месяц назад

How complicated can it be? It's just a football match

@AItakover Месяц назад

FA cup robbery.

@jasonlightbody5356 Месяц назад

It's obvious its corrupt ffs they could not make it anymore obvious, but there's too much money getting passed for something to be done.

@robertbrown6060 Месяц назад

Last time I checked, free speech is allowed in this country. So the FA will investigate Forest for basically telling the truth and challenging total incompetence. The FA and PL would be better placed addressing the obvious issues with refereeing and VAR.

@M-E_123 Месяц назад

They never accused him of incompetence. They alluded to him fixing matches.

@robertbrown6060 Месяц назад

@@M-E_123 The thrust of the tweet was incompetence, ‘match fixing’ wasn’t mentioned.

@M-E_123 Месяц назад

@robertbrown6060 not directly, but they claim bias on behalf of the VAR - otherwise what's the meaning of saying he's a Luton fan? And they make no mention of incompetence in their initial statement. So you're talking rubbish. No way that first statement can be taken as an accusation of incompetence.

@arjay3580 Месяц назад

PGMOL Refs & VAR team are a DISGRACE the decision against Forest, Wolves, Man United, Arsenal and especially Liverpool

@bro652 Месяц назад

Liverpool need to sue pgmol

@awatiko Месяц назад

PGMOL modern day scam

@samoc235 Месяц назад

Why isnt anyone saying his family are season ticket holders at luton ?? He's lying here, read what Michael Oliver said about Newcastle

@brightgabriel1558 Месяц назад

That’s what the FA is good at, what happened to the officials

@zingisamahlasela Месяц назад

Well done Notts 🙌🏾🙏🏾👏🏽🤞🏾👌🏾 We are with you!!!

@agentancelotti2985 Месяц назад

What’s notts County doing?

@rorys3489 Месяц назад

Let's hope Atwell sues and opens the door for Forest to put a case forward. Could change football officiating forever.

@M-E_123 Месяц назад

I don't want club's having a veto on who referee's their games. Which is what such a case would lead to.

@zattanna74 Месяц назад

its simple dont have VAR been handled by refs it so easy, hire a dedicated team with the amount of money wasted by the premier league and FA your telling me they cant get that sorted. then you can get those useless ref back to improving themselves on the field and doing more training rather than have 1 week they are a ref and the next week they are VAR

@M-E_123 Месяц назад

Been saying this all season. There are clear steps that could be taken to improve refereeing standards & VAR. Club's calling match officials cheats on social media and having a veto over who referee's their matches is not going to make anything better.

@Esx1961 Месяц назад

Neutral refs from other Leagues, eg Anthony Taylor refs in European Leagues and the PL etc get refs from other EUFA leagues??

@kelzangk1551 Месяц назад

Power is dangerous. 🙏🏼

@rozi2089 Месяц назад

Forest should be given their points back after this BS lol.

@user-fn4um5sj6d Месяц назад

Wonder why there are no or little controversies with UEFA european matches…. They have real top Refs. Pgmol refs incompetent and corrupted. Most in UAE payroll anyway….

@zingisamahlasela Месяц назад

The process is that you have to be corruptible to be a referee in the premier league

@ashwongordon89 Месяц назад

corruption

@ismori Месяц назад

I am with NFFC.

@infinitycovuk699 Месяц назад

Simple. If your from manchester your in.

@victorbarugahare8328 Месяц назад

Howard Webb was so abysmal as a referee. No wonder the group he leads isn't any better.

@albertbrammer9263 Месяц назад

The club made the statement. They should be relegated.

@stephenevans1577 Месяц назад

Charge them for what speaking the option

@Tee9156 Месяц назад

Unfortunately, it's the downside of technology. People get lazier and subsequently become terrible at their job. Then you are forced to find new technologies to make up for the laziness and reduce errors. Not until people start losing their jobs that things reset ,and the cycle continues.

@marklambert2750 Месяц назад

Yes complete corruption

@martinquinn4063 Месяц назад

It's currupt, A Luton Fan, In Charge !!! What a Joke, put a Manchester city Fan in Charge in the Cup Final. Let's see what Neville Says about That......

@user-ci3gu7eb9v Месяц назад

Oh not forest told thr truth cant be doing that the pundits cant even do that 😂😶

@markgoodson1032 Месяц назад

,All fans should rally around Forest..at last a club prepared to speak out against the appalling lack of accountability..fed up with media woke protectionism.

@lukew6725 Месяц назад

...... You have no idea what woke actually means.....

@neilfound3506 Месяц назад

How many complaints or tweets have Forest made about mistakes they’ve benefited from? You can’t just throw your toys out of your pram when it’s you, if you have a serious issue it should be across the board, it’s unprofessional behaviour, and the owner is just a petulant child used to getting his own way

@samjones6046 Месяц назад

Mate, this is hundreds of millions of pounds worth of money we are talking about. PGMOL is rotten;they do not want to improve standards (the first step would be acknowledging that the standards are in the toilet). The genius who forgot to draw lines for offside last season during Brentford v Arsenal is doing training for the current batch of refs. Mike Dean called the entire shambles of officiating during Spurs v Liverpool as “good process”, this is after they royally screwed up. Just look at the number of referees that are from Manchester and compare it to the number from London. London with more population has basically zero referees. Surprise surprise those at the top are from Manchester. If PGMOL will not improve with politeness, it is time for politeness to leave the arena. Let’s be clear here - PGMOL and Webb have complete ownership for this shitshow. However, Sky consistently bends over backwards appeasing PGMOL.

@dhcrew1992 Месяц назад

Such a disconnect between SKY and football fans. PGMOL needs disbanding. It's an incompetent organisation run like a cartel, but SKY will defend the thing that is injuring the sport.

@AnthonyStafford-qx5hx Месяц назад

F...k knows do they?

@user-fh3dv5pb7u Месяц назад

Even if you insinuate that the official was bias (which is already crossing the line massively), why would a Luton fan specifically choose to make VAR decisions against Forest. Because the best result for Luton would have been a draw, as it keeps both Everton and Forest within touching distance. Now, with the 5 point gap its just Luton and Forest. Forest's reaction was unprofessional, childish, and darn right disrespectful. They will be lucky to get away with some sort of fine for this. With this coming just before their FFP appeal, and the fact they got their deduction reduced for collaborating (appealing is not really collaborating), they will be lucky if their points deduction doesn't get increased from 4 to 5 or 6 points.

@MorsAquilae Месяц назад

Boo!

@JohnBlackburn-ep5lc Месяц назад

Sky agenda, killing the goose that laid the golden egg

@bryandicken5227 Месяц назад

The statement does not imply corruption as that would imply taking money. It implies BIAS……. Skye is part of a CORRUPT HIERARCHY in football…….yes CORRUPT.

@jayyyy1679 Месяц назад

No love left in football after what the FA did to the legacy of the FA cup and now this its clear they morallt dont care abour the true progression of english footabll

@chiatriani Месяц назад

PGMOiL

@atmphotog Месяц назад

Be under no illusion, Sky are part of the problem 💸💸💸

@joelester4794 Месяц назад

the officials got it right. None of the penalty shouts were clear cut.

@jacob3936 Месяц назад

Literally everybody is saying that all 3 should've gone to VAR monitor, the controversy now is about NF statement. You are mad

@user-te1hi9rx7b Месяц назад

YOU HAVE A FAKE CHANNEL..

@janeil8184 Месяц назад

Premier league is a joke

@user-fn4um5sj6d Месяц назад

Laughing stock…..

@MartinLenart Месяц назад

The premier league is being described as the best in the world . For me is overrated last few seasons have been a joke and fixed

@alexjohnson9535 Месяц назад

Great rant, please elaborate. Overrated because? Nothing to do with the caliber of squads and managers I suppose. And how was last season fixed?

@robertspence402 Месяц назад

It's far from the best league in the world

@alexjohnson9535 Месяц назад

@@robertspence402 what'd be the best league in the world then?

@robertspence402 Месяц назад

@alexjohnson9535 probably championship league 1 and 2 tbh

@alexjohnson9535 Месяц назад

@@robertspence402 I absolutely love the championship, but calling it the best league in the world is wild! Perhaps the most entertaining and unpredictable, but no the best in terms of quality.