Exploring Logan's Run - Classic Sci-fi from a different time 

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Yeah this wasn't viewed as a trash at any point. It just looked instantly dated in terms of effects once Star Wars came out. Good 'bad' films is stuff like Deathstalker etc.

if you really believe that you havent seen the terrible low budget horror movies hes covered unless you're into that...

This are the "exploring" movies

Ironically there is an Anime version from Japan. It is a Macross Series movie called "Passionate Walkure". The premise is a distant planet called Windermere has a population that due to genetic tampering by the Protoculture (the reason is never revealed) the people live only about 30 years. Hence marriage and children in their early teens. Enter the protagonist a young blond haired girl named Freyja. She "runs away" from her world due to not wanting to marry at 14 to join a popular Earth singing group called Walkure. I won't spoil the rest, but there are a LOT of inferences to Logan's Run throughout the movie and series. If you like these kind of animated movies it isn't half bad.

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i think i had the same reaction with Jenny Agutter but at 7 with An American Werewolf in London, don't ask why my horror loving dad thought it was ok for a 7 year to watch that :)

David Renton same reason my dad did I guess lmfao

I only came for Farrah. I wouldn't have know about it if not for her. 7 year old love. My first crush!

Her eyes are mesmerizing... they just draw you in...

Of course she is The Avengers and the Winter Soldier.

Having an apartment that overlooked an indoor crush of humanity could be fascinating. I thought that during the first few episodes of "The Expanse" first season. Thomas Jane's character had that little apartment in the colony that was just above the public area, lit from the skylight above. I remember thinking how interesting to live in a climate controlled environment close to all the action yet secluded at the same time.

Filmed in hotel in downtown Houston.

@@tophers3756 there's a town called Cumbernauld in Scotland that has a brutalistic shopping centre with apartments at the very top. Its very 60s. The apartments are no longer habitable, but most of the shopping centre still stands. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lHUGVNO5x7A.html

@@CelestialWoodway Was it the Hyatt? Kinda looks like the central shaft there. This same hotel was referenced in King of the Hill

Yep, Id have to agree. Wall-e was ahead of its time.

Wow what a great list of movies. Never forget seeing silent running, I was devastated at the ending!

@@Michael-jo9jb that song, right. Hard to think of any recent films with a song of such power

'Solent green is people!' The last film for Edward G. I found this film said something deeper also. One thing I've noticed about our future, from writers point of view, isn't good. One type of hell or another. Socialogicly we don't grow, we get worse. I would like to see a film where we advance and a more positive outlook in our future. Not necessarily more tech, but a better mindset. All I've ever had was Star Trek.

Silent Running is the one I don't know, I've never seen or even heard of. Did I miss something?

@@Zett76 I've seen it once. I bought it on DVD some time in the early naughts, with my then-girlfriend who said she liked scifi (and we did indeed watch a lot of scifi together), but we never did watch Silent Running. It was so depressing that every time we considered it, it was turned down for something less depressing. I remember it as heartbreaking, and I have not gone back to see it a second time. The DVD still sits unwatched and unused. If you like sad tragedies, and like things set in space, it should be a treat for you.

Omg, I bet that party was amazing!!!!

God damn it why didn't I think of that?!

Parents of preteens in the 70s and 80s were either super repressive or very open to watching whatever films with their kids! I'm happy there is someone else out there with the latter parents!! I also saw Logan's Run more than once when I was a little kid in the late 80s/early 90s. I was also watching movies like The Deer Hunter in 7th grade, talking about the directorial choices, Meryl's and the guy's amazing performances, and the importance of history and immigration in the context of the American dream. In some ways, my parents really rocked, and my cinematic education was one of those ways.

I was wondering if the movie was appropriate for my 4YO nephew; it's been a while since I've watched it.

@@jamesnoland7821 There's some racy scenes at the beginning, but it's otherwise pretty tame by today's standards.

Very cool!

That's pretty neat

Old World Blues* and Logan's Loophole*

I would love to listen to the soundtrack. I only remember what I heard in the film and it's been a while since I last saw it. Yes, I remember it was really interesting. I'll have to watch the film again and keep in mind the points you mentioned about the locations. Thanks for sharing that! :)

@@CybershamanX The score by Jerry Goldsmith can also be listened to here: ru-vid.com/group/OLAK5uy_nXj_LXNE7k8vSd7MLITLaSTno1vH5U94E

@@bpe-music Thanks! :) And if someone had to approve the comment with a URL in it... Thank you, too! :) Many channel owners have it set so that comments with URLs are flagged for approval. It's to prevent posting of links to "questionable" material. Something to keep in mind if you ever post something and nobody responds. It will look to you like your comment is there, but it's invisible until it gets approved. ;)

Not to mention Chinatown, Alien, Star Trek: The Motion Picture, Poltergeist, First Blood, Gremlins, Total Recall - it'd be easier to list greatest movies ever that he didn't score!

Goldsmith was fucking awesome. He did so many scores that are classics.

It's a beautiful structure yes and the fort Worth water gardens are another wide sweeping backdrop of the movie

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He said Jenny Agutter showed up at the studio, and everyone agreed she wasn't a kid anymore; trying to decide if that's kinda hot or kinda creepy.

she was awesome in American werewolf in London.

How the times have changed... these days when Americans remake some movie or TV series (esp if they remake a British series as an American remake) they actresses can never be too young, it seems. Hollywood will cast mid-20s actors for roles that in the original were played by mid-forties actors (Flight of the Phoenix remake). Or they will rewrite characters who in the original have academic titles and are famous as teenagers or young tweens (looking at you, terrible Fantastic Four remake!). Worst case in point: The American remake of the British science/crime TV show 'Eleventh Hour' (2006) starring Patrick Steward as a renowned scientist, then 66 years old. Rufus Sewell, the actor in the American remake of 2008 who played Professor Ian Hood, was then only 41 years old! And the American actress who played the role of his trained bodyguard was 5 years younger than her British counterpart.

Lmao except literally ever actor looks like they’re in their damn 40’s. Still, always loved Logan’s Run.

Everybody was supposed to be young.... but, it was still being produced in our society. And that meant they certainly weren't about to give some young actor or actress a big role. Even now, you'll notice if you look that most young actors get listed last in credits, actors are almost always significantly older than the age of their characters, etc. They want people to have "paid their dues" and not get ahead too quickly, especially in an arena like film where the number of stars outnumbers the available roles.

I totally agree. I watched this movie so many times back when it used to run on late night TV in the late 80s. Loved the book too. It's just classic sci-fi, a deceptively simple premise as catalyst, add humans, watch the ensuing insanity. I think that's one of the things a lot of modern sci-fi gets wrong, they just overdo everything, add "twists" just for the sake of adding them, crap like that.

I prefer the old sci-fi movies, even ones from the 50s that were more straight cut and clean. There is just something alluring about the big ideas that existed back then, as well as the ingenuity it took to bring them to life on screen. And the future wasn't a constant onslaught of dark, bleak, depressing, mundane, overly-realistic, dreary, uninspired dreck that it is today.

Yeah, when I first saw this, I thought "this is what the future will look like", and that still kinda holds true today. Then Blade Runner came and my outlook for the future got even more bleak.

The modern style = dark, dreary, color-corrected, depressing, boring...all set to bland Hans Zimmer music.

At 30 I was fine. I would say at 40 it feels easy but you still want to live even if you don't have the energy.

I didn't relate to this, while I was living what is supposed to be a normal life. I was fine approaching 30, and I didn't know why everyone lamented it. I was content... until my then-girlfriend of 7 years dumped me. EVERYTHING fell apart. I lost an entire decade to the shitstorm that followed, and she was the catalyst (more specifically, having sociopaths ruin my job and getting on an SSRI wrecked everything, but she was the trigger for me being coerced onto psych drugs and they changed my personality for a while). Here I am soon to be 45 and my life has only marginally improved (getting off all pharmacology, and having better friends, of non-selfish, non-arrogant egoists type, helps a lot, but the situation otherwise is a financial prison keeping me in a place I hate). I've tried to die several times back when it was really bad, but the reality is that I want to live; I just want something BETTER. I think that is what most struggling people want. I don't understand the notion of it being easy to give up at 30 or 40 UNLESS life is really shitty and there's no sign of even potential for improvement. That seems to be getting more and more common now. Our culture is so toxic.

She stole Farrah Fawcett's thunder. Farrah was supposed to be the eye candy. Jenny looked better.

She’s also in another underrated film called “The Eagle has Landed” about a plot to kidnap Winston Churchill.

I liked the lack of an outfit. Although, if you remember the 1970's, you remember that women's clothing had less and less fabric as the decade wore on.

Some nice sidebum One of my favorite films. Also enjoyed York's performance in the 3 musketeers.

@@jim405 That's a pretty good film. Not quite as famous as Kelly's Heroes or Dirty Dozen or Where Eagles Dare, but solid.

THX 1138 is criminally underrated.

@Ken Hudson That's the one.

THX 1138 really gets the point of the danger of the pharmaceutical companies across. You are guilty of being undermedicated!

It's kind of like our society. People praise the police even though they enforce victimless. Homeless people choose to be homeless even though it's built into the system for people to fail. But if you fail it's your fault. We praise Hollywood but turns out the producers and directors are sexually assaulting women and molesting kids. All of the free land is owned by corporations to exploited and governments to protect it. When it should be free to live on. You never own anything because even when you retire you have to pay property tax. ECT.

@Ben A ^This, the end really ruined it for me. I surprisingly really enjoyed everything until then and I wasn't expecting much to begin with. I still watch it, just knowing it won't have the pay off the story deserved. :(

While he was attached to a Logan reboot, "In Time" is not like Logan's Run at its core. Where in Logan's Run at 21 or 30 depending on how you saw/read it, you had to go...no exceptions. In "In Time", your time clock started ticking down from 21, and you could stave off death indefinitely if you traveled in the right circles because time was currency.

@Ben A That movie was based on the much superior movie "The Price of Life" which you can see here...ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oRurZ7TlACc.html

@@rayhopkins4691 , The clock started ticking at the age of 25 my friend :).

Juni Post Have you seen the shot-for-shot remake of Psycho? Some things are better left alone.

They didn't know they were to be killed. They thought they would be reborn

Maybe they didn't celebrate birthdays and didn't know their exact age? I don't remember.

You know it will :/

Senior Woodz Can some make Sam space into movie

It was the influence for The Island (2005), but Fahrenheit 451 was influence for Logan's Run.

its only a matter of time, unless hollywood finally goes broke.

I dunno. I'd love to see them do the book as a movie. They could put in all the stuff that really wouldn't have been able to happen back in the 1970s. Things like the Gypsies and their Devilsticks. Get rid of the whole "Domed City" rubbish, bring back the Francis/Ballard stuff, there is a sanctuary, etc.

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They loved Jenny Agutter and Farah Fawcett.

How dare he make an informative review of a classic sci-fi movie that's before my time and doesn't even have decent CGI! 😜

I don't think everyone who downvotes means to say "I hate it, it shouldn't be on RU-vid". Could be a reminder to himself that he didn't find it interesting for when he stumbled on it later. It's your vote to do with as you will.

@@whyjay9959 I agree that it is your vote to do with what you will. However I disagree about it being a reminder that you didn't like what you saw. Maybe my memory is better than some but I've yet to run across something that I didn't like that I had to use a sticky note to remind myself of my displeasure.

@Bill Whittaker ....Her eyes?

Everybody does. Yeah i used to pause that film alot

You might like the uncut Walkabout too...

@@whyjay9959 I do. But this is where I first saw her. And that green toga dress is burned into my memory.

@@XantroyX Her tonsils, of course!

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The Railway Children 1970, Riddle of Sands 1979.

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Yes, in the book there IS a sanctuary? No!

I agree. I love the movie, up until that point. The part with the old man was too long. No disrespect to Peter Ustinov, of course.

@@TheJayrockerr Agreed. it really loses it's own plot there. The whole thing lacks cohesion and conviction imo.

If they can do it with Westworld, they could do it with this. And go much farther.

Agreed. It's kind of a perfect fit for HBO.

if you want sex and violence give it to Cinemax or Starz. lol

@@mezzb North Korea demonstrates otherwise.

@@superlive98 I think he's overestimating the relative importance of brain chemistry versus the environment you're raised in, but reverting back to the 21 year olds in the book would give it a lot more impact. The film's expiration date was probably directly inspired by that old saw about not trusting anyone over 30.

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PG was amazingly broad and arbitrary in the seventies. I think they thought parents really would do their research and make their own decisions.

Gotta remember: pg13 didnt exist

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I think it was actually supposed to be a logans run reboot, I mean he was actually called Logan.

@@Whalewraith Actually he was called Lincoln, and the girl was called Jordan. But Lincoln 6 Echo and Jordan 2 Delta are super similar to Logan 5 and Jessica 6! I made the connection between the two films instantly, but somehow it's similarity to a B Movie called Parts got a lot more attention!?

@@FizzyMcPhysics I stand corrected.

it actually rips off a movie called *Parts: The Clonus Horror,* of which Michael Bay and the production company was successfully sued by the original creators.

Would've been a better story if you were named after the Wolverine tbh.

My guess: budget. It's cheaper to say "There's NO Sanctuary" than to create one as a space station orbiting Mars. If they spent "2001 ASO" money, sure. But a $5 mil budget? Nah.

@@DavidTSmith-jn5bs it was more about Francis.

@@brucegrossman3531 You mean "Francis turning out to be 'Ballard?'" Same thing. Ballard took Logan & Jessica to "Sanctuary." With the limited budget, "There's NO Sanctuary!" so no Ballard and no "Francis was really Ballard." QED.

@@DavidTSmith-jn5bs it's been years since I read the books.

@@brucegrossman3531 And saw the TV series. Some of the episodes were OK but most of them seemed like half-hearted attempts to flesh out the world. They even threw in a sub-plot where there was a secret society of "Older people" living in secret in The City of Domes that Francis discovered. It would have been interesting if they decided to name their leader "Ballard," but I don't think they did....

And I made a similar reply: Star Wars is no Science Fiction. Star Wars is a fantasy adventure set in space. Sometimes called "space opera", for lack of a better description.

Star Wars is not sci-fi.

The Charlton Heston sci-fi trilogy is remarkably brilliant. Apes, zombies, and cannibals. What's not to like?

All of it

Hot enough for a Soviet nuclear engineer to deny seeing graphite on the roof.

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Thank you! Will do!

Yeah why pay royalties when you can just butcher the story?

Yea better to have him end up in that mess than to ruin the name of a classic

When the movie came out at the theater I remember the sign saying Logan's Run starring Michael York and Farrah Fawcett-Majors. Then we watched the movie and she had such a little part.

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Ditto, it's a damn shame that often the best parts of movies end up on the cutting room floor.

@@Billman66 and in those days into the garbage. Movie executives then as now never really understanding what they have till years too late

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Write a book isn't the hardest part, the hardest part is publishing...

I'm sure LSD had nothing to do with it. Haha. Probably a lot easier to hammer out between two guys. 🤷‍♂️