Exposing the TRUTH about Justin Outdoor's Temu SCANDAL 💲💲 

This is interesting. I saw the video and liked it - FINALLY someone showed something that the people who aren't affluent can afford and use to have some incredible adventures. Justin didn't say it was the best of the best and didn't say it was for everyone. I recall him being what I thought was very upfront about things. Not everyone can put out $1000.00 for a sleep system and there are other options. But if none of the content creators show this too many people think they need to buy the high end things to go hiking/backpacking. If people don't like Temu or any other retailer they don't need to buy from them. It's that simple. Justin, you are not a sellout or any of the other things your viewer wrote. You didn't sell your soul, nor did you say anything you didn't believe all you did was provide another option for low-end affordable gear. I admire you for doing it. Taking down the vid to appease people that want to dictate what other do and think well . . . I hope you are both reading this. Accepting sponsorship: Do it! There is nothing wrong with it as long as you are up front about being sponsored. Are these people who are complaining about it sending you money to pay the bills and build your channels? You aren't forcing them to buy those products. If you don't like something don't accept that sponsorship. If you don't use the items like the Temu products and tell your viewers it's not for you but it might work for someone else there is nothing wrong with that. How many of the people watching your channel are going to use the products like you do? How many of them are going to do a thru hike? I bet very few. How many people think backpacking is beyond their means because of what they see on RU-vid? I don't hike/backpack but my dream is to do a backpack trip to celebrate turning 70 years old. I already have the majority of what I need since I'm an avid motocamper but if there are things that I need to add I will probably check Temu. Until your video I didn't know they had things like that. I have ordered a couple of things from them and other than it taking longer than say Amazon I was happy with my purchases. Kyle and Justin I enjoy your videos, keep up the great work and get those sponsorships so you can continue to do what you do. One last thing for Kyle: Each time I hear you say "I'm not gonna lie" and you say it a lot my thoughts go to either everything else you have said is a lie and you are now going to tell the the truth or you are lying about not gonna lie. 😁

Justin is one my all time fav creators and it didn’t bother me a bit he did that video. The way he actually cared that it bothered some ppl and the way he handled that aspect shows what a stand up genuine guy he is. 🤘🏽

It’s absurd that you got “push back” for that. RU-vid content creation is a business. If someone wants to pay you to give an honest review of their products, you’re totally within your moral rights to take the paycheck. The only thing I’d say is it if they’re a scummy company, might have been good to research that and make mention of it in a way that’s respectful to both the audience and the company. But screw the haters, keep doing what you’re doing Justin. The content is great overall.

I'm 14 minutes in and Kyle pretty much has talked the whole time. If you want to interview someone shut up and let them speak.

@Kyle, you should interview Quadzilla, he is about to hike the AT again and is using budget gear, gear he’s made, and financially use $1000 while on trail.

I would agree that outdoor content creators are held to a higher standard, because sustainability and considering something outside of yourself (LNT) are just a core part of the culture. So anything seen as an antithesis to that, probably won’t fly with most in the community. Justin made an honest mistake and I think the humble way he handled it says more about his character than that original misstep. Great pod, thanks to you both!

I think taking temu sponsorship if your video was about camping/hiking gear is fine. I like the idea of “would this work” kind of thing. Not everyone is “married” to hiking.

Kyle-love your stuff, both channels. One thing-I was really interested in what Justin had to say but you did a lot more of the talking than he did. I think he did a great job explaining what happened in the short time you let him talk, but I feel like he didn’t have enough time to really say what he learned and how he would avoid a similar issue in the future. I’m probably wrong here but I think you were uncomfortable with the subject and so (forgive me for this) “ran off at the mouth” a little instead of letting him speak. I’m not saying you need to pin him to the wall and grill him but I personally would have appreciated more of his insight into the situation and aftermath than you allowed him.

I think the entire controversy is a little ridiculous. His video didn’t bother me in the least. Mostly because I have a life and brain outside of what RU-vidrs do on a daily basis.. none of them hung the moon and stars- they are flawed humans just like everyone else so if you see them make a “mistake” keep that in mind. Especially if you are so worried about how others are treated … then you attack someone you claim to like and subscribe to…

The folks that complain about shilling miss the forest for the trees. They complain if someone reviews expensive gear and say "regular folks can't afford this" and if they review cheap gear it's "you know this isn't going to hold up as well". And also gear gets updated, and competition grows. How else am I going to see real world comparisons from 10 different sleeping pads, and how those compare with ten different bags and quilts, and 10 different pillows. THAT'S what people forget. An Amazon review that only speaks to one piece of gear. I like that Justin's reviews talk about a bag or quilt being warm enough IF his pad was warm enough, too.

You all have legit skills and experience. Everyone makes a few mistakes in their professional career. Don’t be so hard on yourself.

The materials they sell (especially Plastics, water filters) contain highly problematic chemicals and should not be near your body. You shouldn‘t buy stuff from Temu, Aliexpress or any other no-name source that goes on or in your body. Justin is my favourite outdoor content creator, but Temu is famous in the EU for selling products that are a huge health risk and thus he should know better.

Justin is not the one that was disappointing because of Temu. It is the people that give ill remarks as if they are perfect and never make a mistake. Pay no attention to ill remarks said about you, live so that nobody will believe them. Actions will always prove what is true and Justin (even though he did not have to prove anything to ANYONE) proved his intentions were genuine and honest. Those kind of judgemental people, that give absolute statesments about situations that they barely know absolutely anything about, do not need to be...never mind. Just my two cents.

Brilliant . Thanks very much for this Kyle. I have a very small channel and only did my 1st ever sponsored video recently. I work full time and have a young family so the money I received from the sponsorship allowed me to purchase a new tent so I can do better videos of summit camps.

Will have to check out Justin's channel. Enjoyed the interview. Seems like a good guy.

I think the concept of his video is interesting and something I would watch. People are weird...side note Temu was a RU-vid ad in this video 😂😂😂

Thanks for another great episode! My wife and I had a crazy bear encounter while in our tents right here in the Catskills last season so I feel ya with that fear. Haven’t been able to shake it on any trip since lol

Justin, you are a great guy and wear your heart on your sleeve. I can understand how rattling a situation like this would be. Stay true and strong man.

Love all Ur content Kyle and was so happy to see you do a trail tales episode with Justin, I thought his audience took the whole temu thing to far and went for blood, I mean I think temu sucks to but at the end of the day it's just a sponsor,I'm a grandma and watching u both has got me hiking and I absolutely love it, I'm also from Canada and it does get really cold here, great episode Kyle

Thanks for alerting me to Temu. I was looking for a drone and almost got one at Amazon and then found the same for half the price on Temu.

Oh man my guy you are the most indecisive person! It gets frustrating after a while it's like either tell us or don't tell us but stop repeating yourself and talking in circles

Justin, I think you should put the Temu video back up. To take it down for 2 net losses doesn't seem right.

I think the Temu video concept was interesting. However I understand why people would be disappointed. For backpacking content creators, I think they are criticized so much more. They get criticized if they rate videos at home versus on a backpacking trip. People question if they are rating products to get money versus actually using them on multiple trips. Dixie constantly has to remind people that she always buys the gear and doesn't accept money for reviews. Yet people keep questioning that. Justin, don't let anyone silence you. Your voice, experiences and expertise are valuable. Keep shining bright.

My issue was the products were clearly low quality, fit poorly, and just seemed randomly cobbled together. Recommending your audience buy something important like a water filter or sleeping bag of unknown quality and origin to save a couple bucks could be dangerous. If he was looking at smaller items that don't matter if they're generic, like backpacking pillows, camp shoes, air pumps, accessories etc then it might've been better.

I can see where people are coming from with Temu. It does have controversy surrounding it. The thing is I appreciate for example videos that compare really good quality backpacking and camping gear vs the cheaper stuff people might go out and buy because it's affordable. Showcasing what makes something better quality and why it might last longer and save someone money in the long run. Even offering a discount code for more expensive quality brands to help bring the cost down a bit if that is possible. I think it's good for people to see a comparison and get recommendations for good quality brands. So I can see where that concept might work. But I think companies like SHEIN and Temu do have controversy and people get opinionated about them.

Respect, Justin! Always seem honest and upfront. Didn’t hear/ see any of this but good call to go on Kyle and address it.

Did not see Justin's video on TEMU. Having watched several others, I believe that Justin did his usual service to the community by truthfully reviewing some of their gear. Not everyone has knowledge of them. Now we all have better info to make good gear decisions -- a GOOD thing.

I plead guilty. I have ordered a few things from Temu but must say I have been completely satisfied with all but one purchase. However, it does require diligence in reading the description. If the description is not clear, steer clear. Who else can us noobs and monetarily challenged people rely on for honest opinions on affordable gear than those experienced enough to provide advice. Almost all content I view regarding such gear would require a huge investment in an activity some folks are not sure they will stick with. I respect gear reviewers who provide honest takes on equipment if from the start they reveal a disclaimer.

I am in a different niche, but Temu has the same stigma in my community too. There are those who love it, the "value" in the products but there are others who look at what cost does that value come... I did one Temu video, it was not sponsored and although I was contacted by them over and over... it was my last order, and I will just leave it at that. 🤷🏻‍♀

I think part of it was timing. In December 2023 a US government investigation found that products sold on Temu may have been made with forced labor..

Lmao at the thumbnail is funnier knowing Justin approved it

Take the money and run Justin screw the haters

I think Justin doing the Temu thing was him being open minded. I would trust him to give the products a bad review cause he seems like a genuine guy.

I only recently found Justin and I've been impressed by his authenticity. Being a content creator is much more difficult than it seems, I think. Also...Magic Spoon ftw! 🙂

I actually found this quite uncomfortable to watch. I feel Justin was being made to feel even worse about it all which is totally unnecessary. Justin, hold your head up high! You provide extremely high quality content and inspire a lot of people. Your GDT was by far the best hiking video on RU-vid! 😊

I am a huge fan of both of your channels. I really appreciated the frank discussion about sponsorship and affiliate links. I've watched Justin's entire GDT video, and listening to the grizzly encounter was intense., but the reflections after the encounter were very insightful and helpful.

Kyle’s headstone will say RIP. But with that said….

Justin is one of my Favorite Channels and I like the Temu video...I don't understand the backlash. Everyone from Syntax to Dan Becker has done "cheap" "Walmart" gear videos ECT. But I have zero problem with a person making money on sponsorship as long as it is clear that it is. But Duck Temu.

Temu would be a good sponsor for me cause i think outdoor adventure should not have to be expensive. I buy the cheapest tent available and it works just fine.

You must watch Derek Cullen outdoors!!! Just watch his journey on the AT!!! OMG!!! I've never seen anybody like him. The way he's capturing things and what he says, is one of a kind!!! One in a million!!! Made me laugh he made me cry. he made me think. You've got to have him on your show. 🙏 He rode his bike across Oh yeah he already hiked PCT and much more!

Justin a great source of information. I never understood the backlash he got for the Temu deal.

Winter hiking/camping requires more gear, but it's not as rough as you'd think. I like it way more than summer backpacking/camping.

Good for you Kyle

Honestly, as a frequent watcher of Justin Outdoors and someone that has had MANY successful gear recommendations from him, I think the Temu video sounds fun! Especially since I trust that Justin would give honest feedback. Sad I missed it before it was taken down!

you did nothing wrong. these shmucks will buy the same Chinese made stuff from amazon and not even bat an eye.

Adding Five Stars 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 Yeah Buddy 🕺🏼

Never heard of Temu, and I guess I need to check it out :) ...So, so far, the first half of this video was about avoiding in the future promoting Temu, but in the process of doing so, resulting on actually promoting, that is genius.... Joke aside, I totally respect Justin and appreciate his work and helpful insights on gear and backpacking.

Lots of solid info for backpacking creators on this channel, albeit probably not intentional. But appreciated!

whaaaaaaat there's an secondary channel ??? Love jusin vibe ! 🍁

I'm a big fan of Justin, as well as you, Kyle. My disdain for TEMU doesn't change that. TEMU, along with Shein, and many brands/ products on Amazon are emblematic of the cancer within capitalism. I don't think Justin made a mistake in making the video OR in taking money from TEMU as a sponsor. Kudos for Justin for taking the video down and addressing it with the audience in Livestream.

I’m not sure how people can be upset about the temu video we all know what temu is and the possible quality of the items I thought the video was a cool concept and interesting to see what they had lol

We have to make our own decisions. Personally I would not take money from Temu. I’m interested to see what he is going to say

Nothing wrong with doing a Temu video in my opinion. I trust Justin to be honest in his reviews. I guess some people are just biased.

I still love Justin’s videos! It is not his fault, he’s still a great content maker. They just want to buy people off. The way Temu packages their products and the way they are just thrown in the back of truck! I used to work for a mail delivery company and it looked like they tipped the semi trailer on end just dumped everything in all at once the way they fill candy bags with a machine. I used to have to tape about 10-20% of their packages because they are so badly packaged all in plastic bags.

I saw the apology video. I was like ok thanks but it’s not the end of the world. I still would have watched your videos. I’m hiking for 3 years so I gain so much knowledge from you & other hiking RU-vidrs. If I felt you did something wrong I would have just shrugged my shoulders. I jus don’t take you guys deadly serious.

I like this guy! And I'm sure his review on temu was honest, which I don't see the problem.

9:13 language? Why swear? Watching this with my 10 year old daughter. Just a reminder. Use your gift wisely. Telling you this with love. ❤️

You haven't really started talking about anything yet however _i love the Temu products I've received_ There are a few products that may not be the bestest of the bestest, however, I'm a fan. TOTAL fan. Guess I've been lucky. Yup. The mosquito tent is a must in Hawaii😁 That said, I've been perusing camping stuff.. hammocks, solar charging pads, personal cooking products, .. the last week, how ironic. Some friends RAG on TEMU (and they've never purchased one iota! 😢) Little do they know I'm dressed head to toe (wow, sister, love your pants!), got my sh!t all in this unbelievably cool duffle like bag (OMG, their bags/duffles/etc are bomb, but it may be my taste and time spent comparing vendors), and have racked my camping gear on metal shelving units purchased through TEMU. I just bought about 8 of those suckers cuz _you AIN'T gonna find it cheaper as you don't need to spend time driving nor money ON GAS_ and Home Depot/City Mill/Lowe's can kiss my okole with their prices. One bummer, you need to be on the mainland to get some of the deals because they ain't shipping to HI. DON'T LET SOME SUBS RUIN IT FOR OTHERS ... TEMU has deals and most have not disappointed!!! And they have return policies!!!! I WILL TESTIFY TO THEIR BUSINESS ACUMEN🤙🏽♥️

If you need anything more than a knife to survive you probably shouldn’t be in the woods… that being said Temu cheap gear will definitely make things more comfortable and that’s the only reason to bring backpacking gear with you in the woods Whatever is best for each individual’s comfort -STT Royal Ranger backpacking guide

Eh, I find a lot of the Temu hate hypocritical tbh, if not having some racist undertones because it's a Chinese company. People loudly proclaim Temu is horrible but support and use Amazon, Apple, Walmart, Nike, etc. And those companies have done similar if not worse things.

Justin is GOAT. I tend to agree that the temu video was a bad move but he readjusted and handled things very well.

i buy on temu all the time but not for hiking stuff. best place for party garb for dance clubs or theme parties. the fact that other mainstream brands try to pretend they dont use child/forced labor is ludicrous

You should go meet up with quadzilla on trail and interview him

Appreciate Justin taking the Temu video down. There are autocratic regimes that are enemies to their own ppl and other countries. Personally, i dont buy from countries with concentration camps or engage in genocides. Otherwise, i would finance what these countries are doing

there is nothing wrong with Temu. some stuff is crap but a lot of stuff is comparible to Amazon. I think people maybe got upset because it isn't an American company. I am Canadian, and if Temu has a good offer, why not???

Your not lucky Kyle.....Your Blessed!!

Justin’s sponsorships of crap products (for me it was flextail) is why I unsubscribed from him. I used to really like his channel when he’d go backpacking in the winter and did other things. I trusted his gear recommendations as a result of him doing those things. The reason why I hold channels like his to a higher standard is that his channel is now about gear, and if he’s pushing crap products for money then it ruins the trust.

Im new to all these videos. So I never saw dudes video on temu, and this video only seems to dance around what happened and not what happened. I dont understand what happened. And what thebbig deal is.

Great to the great Canadian!!!

20 minutes into this video I've seen 2 Temu app ads... Is this a Kyle and Justin Temu endorsement conspiracy? 😂

Well it's kinda funny and stupid how nowadays people are scared of comments. It's just a comment on RU-vid, it's not even a real place. He didn't make anything bad, he had to ignore it. If someone doesn't like it it's their problem

IF Temu was worth getting mad over its that worthless quality gear that's the quality content seeing someone go through the suffering of bureaucratic driven "quality" design not actually for use in environments just for show. Blame is on the company that can get away with selling garbage and calling it reliable for its price point and then people defending garbage and not having any skill in telling a difference.

Idk what temu is and i dont care. Maybe the man needs to make a paycheck to support his family. If he genuinely regretsna decision then support him in his acknowkedgement of that. If his self righteous followers bullied him into a decision- shame on you

I wonder if now that Luke at TOGR is using Temu and Ali Express that people in the US will relax a little???

Enas 37 year olds want to get back into it cuz the rest of the crew have died off in the males but we three want to get back and do it again and we know it's a different type of mentality out there but survival wise we're ready for it

I subscribed to khh a good distance ago on the trail and loved the format and adventure. I have hit a conundrum, something isn't sitting right now. It's weird, like a bit of exploitation and arrogance. Every interview and video I have watched now seems to be judgemental and just doom and gloom, like you can't do what us UL hikers do. Sad as it all started so positive and all about the experience. Maybe it's the beers talking but????

(42:38) Grizzly bears f#ing? 🐻 🤣

Outdoor corporate shills lambasting other corporate shills for shilling for corporate. Steam calling the water wet.

To me the reason why he lost people and I would have dropped off from him also is because you lost our safety and something that would not be safe for us so I comprehended I understand making money but we got to be cautious

I don't get the backlash. I buy stuff for backpacking on Temu all the time. What's the difference of a Temu sponsorship or Amazon sponsorship

Good to see people use non top tier crap, NOT everyone can afford top tier equipment, nor do we want to spend 1k per sleep system to use 2-5 times a year.... doesnt make sense. Most can get away just fine with cheap stuff, if you do this every week then I can see spending more on this stuff. but Ill stick with walmart lol

I think a lot of the backlash was just gear snobs making up excuses when they real reason they were hating was because it wasn’t “serious” backpacking gear like everything else he reviews

Temu is good for giving stuff a try before you spend the big bucks on quality.

I remember thinking that was pretty good content. If Justin had only received compensation from Temu for the products that were tested it would have totaled about 8 dollars..🏃‍♂🏃‍♂🏃‍♂

I'm 70 and I want to get back on the trail I've been off the trail ever since I had gotten sick and it's a good 25 years so I would like to know what I need to get back to back Patty training whatever thank you and you know what Kyle this is a black woman talking who used to go hiking on the East Coast just through the mountains by herself in the area in the towns that we knew it would be seven of us and we didn't have we did like the old slaves did we build up our own shelters and ate off their land❤🎉😅

Justin ordered from Temu. Literally who cares.

Justin is a beast.

Why is it funny or strange that he ordered from Temu. People are weird, it's just a youtube video

You mean all the youtuber backpackers doing the "Topo is the Altra KILLER" videos within a week of each other may not be impartial? Say it ain't so....

The Temu video was obnoxious. And Kyle poking fun at him over and over is hilarious. I dont blame Justin for taking Temu money, but to be oblivious to the pushback he'd receive is why he'll get teased for it forever. Either way, this is a good pod duo.

😒... 💁... To be fair, a 20 second internet search could have informed him that Temu is NOT a reputable company and there is a TON of shady sh*t that they are doing. So yeah... He absolutely SHOULD have done a little research. Sponsors say something about you, as much as you say about them.

Musicians and musical instruments have similar issues.

Feels like a public shaming, Shame on Justin outdoors for making a financial decision. Unacceptable.....Mcdonald's is hiring Justin outdoors...

Temu isnt a brand its a shopping portal

Chemo is s*** through a rip-off they promise you one thing and when you get the item you can tell it's right down cheap😮😢

UK RU-vidrs take Temu sponsorships and no one over here bats a eye lid really

33:04 Kyle dissing Justin OMG Justin must be gutted to be judged as silly by someone who has so far on this topic repeatedly said 'I don't know much about this.' LOL

Going on about bears plays havoc with my anus! I can never get the Joe Robinet bear experience out of my head!

So important only to support brands who’s morals and values you vouge for…

Kyle needs to freeze his bollocks off Ice Fishing, I would sponcer Temu for that!