The INSANE Consequences for a Mistake in a National Park | Confronting Eric Hanson 

thanks so much man. Sorry you had to go through that

Freeze dirt bag 😂😂😂😂

Is this for trying to kill Dan on that one hike ? Guilty for attempted murder

Been a fan of both you and Kyle for a couple years now so it was cool to see you in a video together- but I’m sorry to hear you had to go through all of this undeserved BS. Keep up the great content ( both of you😀)

Subscribing to your channel, so hopefully youtube does work out for you 😅 Sorry to hear this crap though, it's pathetic that you have a criminal record for camping.

We have over 10 million illegal immigrants in the country over the past few years that are receiving free benefits and committing crimes without any repercussions but camping behind a gas station is the focus of our judicial system? Fucking ridiculous.

You’re describing our entire justice systems core.

Welcome to a democrat controlled court system where in most places the good get locked up and the real criminals go free.

Our judicial system is totally corrupt now

For those people who have a power kink, this is pure abuse of authority.

Both rangers said they couldn't bend the law for him. He then made shit up in his head to convince himself the second one would look the other way. Just follow the damned law, and you'll be fine. The first ranger told him exactly what he had to do, he agreed to do it, then he tried multiple ways to weasel out of that, and got caught. Pretty simple, if you do nothing illegal, they can't charge you with a crime.

@@EfficientRVerif you listen to his more detailed account of the incident the group believed they were in the right location.

@EfficientRVer so if the second officer outranks the first, who do you listen to? How is a citizen to know which officer is the correct one. What kind of rangers don't make sure the remainder of the group makes it to their site after an evacuation.... it's not like the ranger would have to walk more than 200 yards from the road to get to the site.

@@EfficientRVerTHANK YOU!

⁠@@christianray7905first, clearly you go with the ranking officer because thats why they have the rank in the first place. Second, the ranger that did the rescue was with the patient.

Or better. They're like people that way.

Do you have any more info on that case?

@@Melanie-Shea No, but several content creators including Missing 911 did videos on it.

I heard about this when the government was trying to make this a law. Probably some outdoor YT channels mentioned it at the time. I think they were trying to make people making even the most basic/amature videos have to pay a fee.

@@inthedirt3224 Yup .

The Supreme Court is the U.S. government.

The sierra nevadas have camp grounds with stars ❤

@@lifesahobby and enjoy neighbors 20 feet away in the next spot

@@jeffbybee5207 I had a good time there , but I know what you mean. In Ireland , there are no wild camp sites at all , so think yourself lucky . We have to hike our gear out into the wild

​@@lifesahobby a wild camp "site" is just a campsite Wild camping is just anywhere you decide to pitch your tent 🤷

Fight back

If it makes you feel any better, yes it did happen in Arizona, but he was charged by the federal government for a "crime" on federal property. So technically, every US tax payer is getting ripped off here.

Lol that doesn’t make me feel better at all. But at least we are all in the crap shoot together!

Arizona born and raised and for most of my life believed in a much different reality when it comes to the justice system. The truth is far scarier and unjust and something I wish no one had to experience personally. On top of that, Arizona is one of the worst, FACT.

Houndreds of thousands are allowed to illegally cross the boarder and camp anywhere in any city, but oh no let’s not let that warlord cartels boss monster hiker camp 200ft away from his asked and paid permit lol this gov is so retarded sometimes. Those park rangers should loose their jobs. The judge should quit.

What we have is power-crazed petty officials. That kind of person should not have any power.

I’ve been less then thrilled with the NPS for awhile now. Don’t even get me started on the legal system.

US sucks. Always has but it's gotten far worse. Tennessee has a camping felony law now. I really can't hike out to far anymore, to camp and all roadside dispersed camping in NE Tennessee has been closed or privatized or otherwise been made unusable. I'm a 57 y'old veteran and I'm not investing anymore of my life in America. Going to drive or sail down to Costa Rica and live there. This entire nation is sick.

@@danhaywood5696 the loss of dispersed camping sucks. My best friend is from Costa Rica, it’s a beautiful country!

@@danhaywood5696 That's the state government of Tennessee that did that, not the federal government or NPS. It was made a felony to camp on land owned by the state, and this was done specifically as a response to the protesters who camped outside the state capitol for two months. It was later expanded to include local public lands and parks, as part of a crackdown on homeless people sleeping in parks. None of it applies to any federally managed lands.

it's ridiculous

It is ridiculous

Thank the leftists demoncraps for the spending of any money and wasting time!

I believe that pres candidate that says he would fire 50% of the federal government by random selection and it wouldn't make a difference at all (except for saved taxes).

@@johnnycab8986 President Trump 2024

Good. i want my wilderness to stay a wilderness. not a motorsport area for rich people and their snowmobiles. Do you know how much damage a snowmobile can do to the flora and fauna with its weight, gas smell and roaring noise? then when it breaks down, the damage that is done getting it out? if he can snowmobile, everybody else will be snowmobiling and doing whatever they want, going to stores and taking whatever without paying, crapping in elevators, why follow rules.

Why should he have not been charged? Does he deserve special privileges to break the rules and put rescuers in danger? I guess that defense didn't work too well in court.

Consequences, like I always say. As soon as there are consequences, these types of people will not even be in positions of power, be it judges, politicians, they will be gone in an instant if for a minute they thought that there might be consequences for their criminal treasonous actions.

You should be scared and aware but the risk is worth the reward, just be cautious. The grand canyon will be something you and your kids will remember for life, most likely positively.

Law enforcement and government agencies aren't your friend. They don't serve the public. They exist to control you. They ground you into the dirt by arresting and charging you. Once you are a criminal you have lost most of your rights. Welcome to Nazi America.

Nope you are not going to get arrested for pulling over to get a drink for your kid. The Grand Canyon is great and you will enjoy it. If you are going to go backpacking plan for it accordingly as opposed to winging it like these guys seemed to have done. In my opinion they did not take this hike as seriously as they should have and did some pretty poor planning for it as well as the Murphy’s law situations that can happen especially in the winter. They relied too much on Garmin In Reach as their life line. I don’t feel too bad for him because he made a bunch of money doing a video for some company and as well as the money made on his channel. In my opinion the North Rim is more beautiful than the south but the road is closed to it in winter through spring. So where they were going on their hike is truly isolated and these Rangers saved Dan Becker’s life by getting him on a helicopter to where he needed to go. And you know I’m sure the 8000 other people had good excuses why they camped out of bounds too.

when you break rules there are consequences,the backcamper in question is a seasoned professional and shoud know better than anyone what not to do. I think the enire hike they were unprepared for the weather and were way over there heads.

You should never visit any national parks, the risk is just too great. Same for airports, shopping malls, and public schools.

I worked for TSA, and that checks out. Government workers SUCK BA**S. Some are really sweet but most suck and are awful people who shouldn't have the job they do BUT no one else is "qualified," because they all do weed 😂😂😂😂. To be a government worker, you must be the goody-two-shoes, NEVER moved or left home, never done anything to be recognized anywhere, be an absolute stick in the mud and follow BLACK and white rules (emphasis on black) with no critical thinking skills. It's so corrupt.

Canada? You're not missing anything

@@missingremote4388i can’t either, we’re not missing out on the people or lack of rights, especially self defense, but I sure wish I could visit some of those parks and mountain ranges.

Canada? If somebody breaks into your house in the middle of the night you might as well go out the back door because if you hurt the robber you end up in jail. In US they expect you to shoot him. It's true they are taking our rights but we always fight for them. Canada has always been worse and canadians think "it's the way it is". Teenagers are tought in school to tell parents how to run the household. You can't discipline a 10-yearl old child because they know "children' rights".

My Mom’s biggest dream for me and my siblings was for us to be park rangers. She wanted us to get college degrees just to reach that goal. I had to break it to her that i love nature too much to become a national parks cop. I had no interest in becoming someone who polices the parks. That the job is mostly selling entrance tickets, and walking around busting people for things while wearing the most unflattering pants known to humanity. No thanks.

I am under attack also. Why? I reported human trafficking. The government local leaders are all in on it. There are hundreds of slaves '(white ones) in every city both small and large.

A backpacking RU-vidr😂😂😂

yeah we did forget to mention that Eric recently married the prosecutors wife, my bad. kidding, obviously

Don't they usually have immunity? I'd almost bet they do.

There is no "charge" for "unclear and incorrect instructions" What kind of fool thinks you can criminally charge someone for getting information wrong? You're camping, it's your responsibility to do it per the rules. Not a criminal complaint if someone doesn't hold your hand the whole time. The gall of some people. Yes, they have immunity to things that aren't crimes.@@jomama5186

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no, they camped out of bounds the 2nd night after visiting a vista, moving from the original area they stayed (for the emergency), and only THEN failing to camp within a designated area. The night AFTER the emergency. How people conflate these two things is beyond my understanding

​​@@SeanTheEvans No one said they didn't. The punishment is over the top considering where they camped and the fact that no damage was done. They have those rules mainly to prevent damage to the environment, maintain order during busy seasons and safety. They were there during the off season, they didn't damage the environment and they were never thought to be missing causing an expensive search. Yes they broke the law but given the underlying circumstances the prosecutor should have offered a plea for an infarction and fine from the beginning. I understand the reasons for the law but in this circumstance, "throwing the book" at him seems extreme.

ah, so they shouldn't follow the rules because you deemed it unnecessary for them in this specific instance? Good for you. Now the ranger deemed it necessary, and they have more experience and authority, so feel free to write them a letter of complaint. Or you can keep commenting at me on RU-vid like a real winner. @@PHUCKyoutube689

"In fact, under the circumstances of the rescue, they should have done nothing at all." That's a quote from the person I was replying to. Please explain how the location they stayed on the 2nd night was related to the rescue? These ideas are being conflated. @@PHUCKyoutube689

no, they camped out of bounds the 2nd night after visiting a vista, moving from the original area they stayed (for the emergency), and only THEN failing to camp within a designated area. The night AFTER the emergency. How people conflate these two things is beyond my understanding

No, primarily because he was too lazy to snowshoe the last 200 yards to the campground he knew he had to camp at.

Thank you so much for listening. Eric is very humble about all of this, it's total BS

exactly! I feel bad for him

Wasn’t an honest mistake, he made choices after the emergency ended. And instead of hiking out and making sure their friend was ok, they left tents up, then went on a content hike, then didn’t allow enough daylight to get there. And what, they didn’t have a gps or a map showing exact location of permit camp site allegedly 200 yards away. No sympathy here.

I'm amazed that they were able to get to the General store because, you know, 8 Feet of snow. and the campground is behind the Store under 8 Feet of snow!

And nobody was even out camping out there in that weather - why so strict ? Why that camp ground - was it because their permits gained were for EXACT location ( GPS) ?

​@@SonarTravelsSo you never violate any law? Do you hike? I remember hauling a 105 pound hall bag on the longs peak trail in Colorado state park. I got a permit to camp at Chasm View but carrying all those ropes and hardware I had to camp below Chasim View The next morning right before I began scrambling up to chasm View so I could make several 60 meter rappels down to Broadway so I could climb Christafer Robinson a grade 5 A3 5.8 bigwall climb. Before I began moving up Jim Deterline and his partner stoped and looked at my permit and asked for my ID which I didn't have He would have arrested me right there but I told himI have my liscence number memorized. I gave him my ID number and he ran it and talked with his buddy and decided not to arrest me but he was going to right me an official warning that forced me to agree with his assesment which was that I was out of shape and unable to handle the hiking and that I would make sure I never overstated my ability to hike again. I had to sign off on this! I hiked 13 miles with 105 pound haul bag in 12 grueling hours but had to say I was out of shape. He said my ability to remember my Driver's liscence ID number saved me from arrest. I won't say anything bad about Deterline he died in a climbing accident he loved to rope solo one of the 5.4 variations to the summit and took a lethal fall. Detterline was a good man but I will never forget that I was almost arrested for physically collapsing below the place I said I would camp. You probably agree with Detterlime and that I should have made it to Chasm View no matter how miserable it would have been. This isn a trail it is a talus scram le. I was able to talk my way out of being arrested but other people were not so lucky. I think that arresting someone for camping in the wrong place is absurd. That park belongs to the tax payers of Colorado their needs to be a certain amount of compassion. I was from California but in California we cut people some slack. You won't be arrested in the mountains unless you commit an actual crime that hurts another person. Oh well if you follow every law by the letter I guess your belief in 100% compliance is well deserved. I prefer a little leeway when it comes to law enforcment. Why not just go back to the times of common law where there was no flexibility or compassion just words on paper and prescribed punishment or a duel a fight to the death. Husband and Wives unable to divorce thanks to Catholic law would fight to the death. The husband would stand in a hole 3 and 1/2' feet deep with a sharpened stick or crude blade and the wife would often use a long shield with wicked shaped points on both ends and they would fight in that position till one was dead. That is the ultimate reality in a common law world. We could see such things again as civilization breaks down and people become wack jobs from the lack of food and constant suffering in a world to hot to maintain civilization. Common law sucked and this instant borderline on that primitive legal system. Thete has to be more than just the letter of the law it's the spirit and interpretation of the law in a living breathing legal system in which external and internal factors play a part in the ultimate decision as to punishment. We don't need judges or prosecuters in a common law system.

thanks so much! Glad you're enjoying the video aspect

I never had cable

super biased! if they had taken the time to watch Eric's channel before they charged him they would realize he is a positive voice on RU-vid

This sounds but exactly like everybody ever busted for weed lol - It just got legalized here yesterday. And all these people running around with records smh

Momma always told me never talk to rangers

@@worm_vaquero lol

@@readdeeply9278 I hope they all get their records expunged!

Are the Whites a State or a Federal Park? In the Adirondacks almost every Ranger (State);would be far more likely to just verbally advise you vs arresting/charging you.

@@thomasgerace4354I think they are owned by the state but I could be incorrect.

Funny now we know all about them. Nasty is what I know now.

he will indeed!

Permit was for a location, was asked nicely by two different law enforcement officers to move to where the permit was for, didn't do what he was nicely asked to do (the gas station is not the campground), got caught. Sorry but how is any of that the fault of any of the LEOs?

@@oldkayakdude There was an emergency situation involved. So yeah some discretion could have been made. This was a fine at most.

@@oldkayakdude said the sheep.

@@singlespeedcrossbikesays Dan’s #1 fanatic!

Thank you for watching

See my other post. He agreed to plea deal, and these violations were AFTER the emergency. Imagine if they didn’t leave the tents up at the trailhead and didn’t choose to go on the content hike AFTER the emergency. He got what he created. Also no trail gps to find the general store please… Wait first video no mention of second guy that said fine stay where you are. Now all of a sudden this video, he claims this other undisclosed guy said stay. Hmmm, interesting omission from first video. Wonder why???

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Never, ever answer LEO questions. He should have never admitted the person in question was him. Had he not said a word, there could have been no prosecution.

Ah, in the UK wild camping is illegal accept in Scotland and Dartmoor. They keep trying to push laws against wild camping in Dartmoor, though. We are a tiny island with lots of greedy people though. As well as a lot of people that don't know how to appreciate nature and 'leave no trace' Jail time seems excessive especially after he explained the whole circumstances. They weren't hurting anyone and they were trying to do what was best for their situation. The Employee also agreed, very sad that the employee may have been reprimanded or fired for trying to look out for people. How tf this guy got a criminal record for camping is pathetic. Glad he told his story.

😂😂 good point

You realize that theres NO connection between a Park Ranger and the Cop in your neighborhood right? That the laws in one State are different from those in another? That the Cop in your City has actually very little in common regarding how they do their job from the Cops 3 suburbs over?

@@thomasgerace4354 None of that made the least bit of sense, I think you're on the wrong thread.

So Very True...watch Canam 411 with David Paluadies

@debbiebarrow817 I've followed David Paulides and the missing 411 topic almost since he started. He's the only one trying to bring awareness to all these people, and the NPS has tried to silence him many times as well. At first, I kind of blew him off as some sort of wacko conspiracy theorist, but once I started actually listening to what he was saying, I realized there really is something happening in our national parks

Stop it, people disappear from NP because of the endless forests to get lost in. Do you honestly think there’s some imaginary trap door or boogeyman grabbing these people? Scary to think we share the road with people that believe this foolish stuff.

Very good point. Very suss.

@@bradkempton7905 Sounds like you fell for a conspiracy. People disappear in parks because they are untrained, unprepared and go off trail.

Dan developed a condition called rhabdomyolysis; both Eric and Dan have a few videos about it on their channels.

yeah it's ridiculous. thanks for giving my show a listen and i hope you'll give another episode a try!

@@alamogiftshop Did you even read this?