Extreme Moneyball: An Independent Baseball Team’s Descent Into Sabermetric Thinking

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As you can see, this video is a little different. This is basically a summary of the book "The Only Rule Is It Has to Work". The authors of this book, Ben Lindbergh and Sam Miller, take over an independent team known as the Sonoma Stompers. They use sabermetric ways of thinking in order to get the best players and get the most out of their players. I hope you guys enjoy! The next video I'm uploading is something I've been planning for a long time.
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@robberonbrent 4 года назад

“My attention span only allows me to binge watch RU-vid videos” Damn, I really felt that.

@pboyle1220 3 года назад

Never have I had a RU-vid video describe me more

@kushclarkkent6669 Год назад

lmao I came to comments to say "he just like me fr"

@SEMYHREPICTURES 3 года назад

8:07 Tanner Rainey is the setup man for the Washington Nationals right now and played a pivotal role in their World Series run last year

@blakeb4490 3 года назад

I actually went to high school in Sonoma County, the field they show is Sonoma Valley High School, I went to Petaluma High, about 20 minutes away, but I played on that field a few times. It's cooling seeing that in a video like this and being able to say I played on that field

@NB-gc8sq 3 года назад

Holy shit! Fehlant Lentini is a Winnipeg Goldeyes legend! Haven’t heard that name in a long time!

@JWex-jy7sk 3 года назад

@N B Played for Winnipeg 2006-2008 and 2011. 2006-07 he was just completely unstoppable! In just 90-95 games a year he’d hit in the .320’s, 30+ doubles, have 7-13 triples, and swipe 40-50+ stolen bases. Dude could just rake at the plate and had some all around blazing speed!

@HalTheBlade 3 года назад

Came across as a real jerk in the book unfortunately

@markchalled3976 3 года назад

Hard to quantify results when as a summer league players leave the team so your second half is going to be way different. thanks for the breakdown.

@rftulie 3 года назад

I like the hints about not being rigid about closers and putting your best relievers in leverage situations rather than using them to get 3 outs in the ninth ahead by 2-3 runs.

@blitzfn292 3 года назад

Who else saw the movie? And also, who TF trades 6 donuts for a third round pick🤦🏻😂

@daltonlambert1409 3 года назад

I legit thought he was going to name six brutal players traded for the pick referred to as “donuts” 😂 but he actually meant 🍩 lmao

@blitzfn292 3 года назад

Dalton Lambert ikr

@armadillolover99 3 года назад

How you gonna trade a draft pick for only half a dozen donuts?

@bcdm999 3 года назад

I WAS HUNGRY OKAY

@MikeyD8716 3 года назад

I wonder if the owner approved that trade.

@danieltrubman8203 3 года назад

An OBP of .250 isn't great, but assuming that 1 non-home run hit was single, Canseco has a .625 slugging percentage. That seems a lot better than "not bad".

@JonPITBZN 3 года назад

Your textbook high-variance, high-upside player, which is exactly what you'd expect when putting a long-retired MLB home-run king up against future insurance salesmen.

@noahmcdaniel4920 3 года назад

Sounds like Joey Gallo

@man-thing6374 3 года назад

@@noahmcdaniel4920 plate vision-0 Plate discipline-0 Power-unlimited

@hardtater4154 3 года назад

Came for the analytics. Stayed for the 6 donut trade :D

@erwinrommelgaminde9572 3 года назад

There were too many variables they couldn't control but the experiment was a success. If baseball can find the right balance between analytics and traditional play, it will progress into a very entertaining and highly skilled sport. Hopefully, we're not far from that.

@MastahUsername 3 года назад

I interned for the San Rafael Pacifics last summer and have seen the Stompers play dozens of times. I definitely wasn’t expecting to find a video about them on RU-vid. Awesome job! Love all your other videos as well.

@SwoteOffical 2 года назад

Cool!

@jacobtune3256 2 года назад

Never thought I would buy a book from a yt video but I just did

@stickit2theman1 3 года назад

Just took a look at your channel after watching your vid on SRS. Gotta say this vid is eye opening and possibly a look into the future of MLB. You got my sub!

@SportStorm23 3 года назад

Root Note-Evan thank you!

@mr.cocoapuff7109 4 года назад

Learning new things every video. Thanks!!

@godbobo9162 2 года назад

If they wanted to win it all, they probably needed to pace themselves more in the first half to avoid pouching, if they retained that talent it’s very likely the championship would’ve been all theirs. At some point Baseball turns from a mathematical wonderland, to just a sport like every other sport, and sometimes I think we forget that.

@samuelalmaraz494 4 года назад

this was outstanding! keep it up

@SportStorm23 4 года назад

Samuel Almaraz thank you!

@Raxy279 3 года назад

One of the most solid videos I’ve seen. Well done

@bryantsteury8910 4 года назад

Fascinating! What a great video

@SportStorm23 4 года назад

Bryant Steury thank you!

@gingerface1898 3 года назад

Great video, thanks for making this.

@outtaherebaseball3205 4 года назад

Awesome topic man!

@SportStorm23 4 года назад

Outta Here Baseball thanks man

@vamp9713 4 года назад

Great video, man!

@SportStorm23 4 года назад

vamp9 thanks!

@rrameir 4 года назад

Some of the best quality videos on the site

@SportStorm23 4 года назад

appleman thank you!

@SAVikingSA 3 года назад

6 donuts for a draft pick isn't even on the top 5 of bad Mets trades

@candlestickthrills 2 месяца назад

Former Stompers GM here, and let me say, those donuts were great.

@Jbrill-tr3fp 3 года назад

I love going to Stompers games😂😂

@SmittyCBaseball 4 года назад

Who else really misses baseball?

@alexhisem1852 4 года назад

SmittyC what up

@SmittyCBaseball 4 года назад

Darkshark 744 Yo

@thokim84 3 года назад

Yeah, baseball is effectively dead. The game isn't dead, but the business model and interest in the sport is.

@bretrogersweightlifting4008 3 года назад

Wait you’re just gonna mention right at the end that there were girls on the team ?

@CAPAE 3 года назад

That needed to be highlighted just a BIT more I would say!

@bretrogersweightlifting4008 3 года назад

CAPAE yea like he just threw it in there at the end like it doesn’t mean anything. That seems like a big deal !

@mjsher2 3 года назад

It was the next year.

@cadenr06 3 года назад

I’ve been trying to find their stats. Can anyone find them?

@seppshlllearningcenter419 2 года назад

You guys are acting like it's ground breaking to have females on small town independent teams. This isn't high A ball.

@Z1MWOODS 3 года назад

This is brilliant

@mgrowbee 3 года назад

Subscribed a few weeks back. I have seen everything. These videos are so well done. I’m so excited your channel is starting to get the traction it deserves!

@BaseballQuotes1 3 года назад

wow this is awesome!

@SportStorm23 3 года назад

BaseballQuotes1 thank you!

@madkinsclassroom5421 3 года назад

Holy shit! I coached that catcher Andrew Parker at the Cardinal Gibbons School in Maryland. Small damn world. Is it weird that it was his swing in that clip toward the end that confirmed it for me?

@madkinsclassroom5421 3 года назад

To be fair I was a first year assistant coach.

@ObiWanKenobi 3 года назад

@@madkinsclassroom5421 that’s so cool lol. That’s wild that you’re just watching a random video and find one of the former players you coached

@josharata3342 3 года назад

Hey I’m from sonoma! Been to a couple of their games

@robertboekee8733 3 года назад

Excellent content. Much in the line of foolish baseball and Stark Raving Sports. Subscribed before 5k subs.

@jeffreytoman5202 3 года назад

I'm a sub and a fan. I see the potential to get on the level of foolish but he's not there yet.... and maple donuts are f'n awesome

@JacionBryant 2 года назад

i love this movie

@lucasberg8863 4 года назад

I’m here before 1K subs because you are really good

@SportStorm23 4 года назад

Bucas Lerg thank you!

@metsfan7376 3 года назад

8:07 Kevin Kaczmarski and Dylan Tice? Now those are 2 Mets players that’s names I haven’t heard mentioned in a long time!

@trsports8123 4 года назад

Great Vid

@SportStorm23 4 года назад

T R Sports thank you

@joshkemme427 2 года назад

As of 2022, the Pacific Association no longer exists. RIP Sonoma

@mattychaz4223 3 года назад

Bro I literally jumped when he said Matt chavez

@brianj4090 3 года назад

This is great quality sports journalism. thanks for the vid. I hope some of these channels making great sports content are able to monetize to sustainable levels. Like and sub, yall.

@Netomal 3 года назад

When I was in high school 70% of the pitchers were right handed so over the summer I became a switch hitter 😂😂😂

@DroneConflict 3 года назад

holy shit IM FROM SONOMA and Ive never heard of this team til now

@utaliovelasquez9076 4 года назад

I miss baseball

@caras2004 3 года назад

At times in the video, does it sound like the narrator is saying "Salmon Bend"?

@diegomontoya8889 3 года назад

I totally thought so too.

@certifiedhoodclassics6304 3 года назад

Vallejo admirals baby

@PrimarySweeper13 2 года назад

I LIVE IN PITTSBURG. HOW DID I NOT KNOW WE HAVE TEAM

@joefeeney5497 Год назад

Fascinated three minutes in…

@Infntpaccout1100.3x Год назад

bro I feel u, my brains favorite thing to do is watch RU-vid all day. and he hates reading

@orgaicnutproductions Год назад

Just applied to intern for this team!

@jasonv6319 3 года назад

From what it seems is data is good, old ways of thinking are hampering and are bad, always adapt to whats new and never be stuck in the past

@BenjaminLopez-hk7ws 3 года назад

Does anyone know if these guys are still working with the Sonoma Stompers?

@andrewwilson7671 2 года назад

They are not

@armadillolover99 3 года назад

As bad as your team’s GM is, just be glad he’s not the guy who traded a third rounder for half a box of donuts

@Gruntbaseball 4 года назад

Not Bad at all bro

@SportStorm23 4 года назад

Thanks man

@Jack-gt4oe 2 года назад

Bro I’ve been to all the stadiums and I live like 15 minutes away from the Pacifics stadium. I play there all the time

@BrightHornet936 3 года назад

Feeling really bad for the dude who let Jose conseco hit a hr off him rn😔

@trashstorage1468 3 года назад

Bro I’ve been to a Stompers game

@micahtataje 3 года назад

Moral of the story: baseball is unfair. Brutal

@rockaway0beach 3 года назад

“My attention span only allows me to binge watch RU-vid videos” Mood, big mood

@Piercen_Buckley 3 года назад

As someone from San Rafael I lowkey died a little bit over how he said it

@adamgillespie8508 3 года назад

Jose Canseco played for my local area Frontier league team also. Lol. I don’t think he got a hit in either of the games he played.

@zh2184 3 года назад

Sportstorm - this documentary is a triumph - ESPN's 30 for 30 could take some pointers from you!

@jaredlewis8689 2 года назад

If you're already starting off with 100% uncertainty, anything can help.

@WestsideMob 3 года назад

I would of asked for a dozen donuts 🍩

@carlj12 3 года назад

wasnt it David Denson? maybe this guy came out a bit before hand

@jalenkang7527 3 года назад

pittsburg diamonds baby

@chuckgrunwaldt51 2 года назад

no way the rascals play 15 minutes from my house

@evangenthon7098 3 года назад

The river city rascals are my local team

@collinq7853 3 года назад

They’re gone don’t exist anymore

@evangenthon7098 3 года назад

@@collinq7853 i know

@JacionBryant 2 года назад

oakland nations

@noahosterhues6459 3 года назад

Tanner Rainey??

@SteelersCardinals1 3 года назад

RIP RC Rascals

@luckylepp6609 3 года назад

Man, humor falls really really flat when nerdy dudes read their jokes directly off their book reports

@isaactejada2757 3 года назад

Sounds like Astro’s

@CadChamberlain 3 года назад

tfw you lose because your players get too good

@lucasrendon4182 3 года назад

Oh wait wtf this is my local team I see them all the time haha

@ChrisNoonetheFirst 3 года назад

The right pronunciation is "San Ra-fell"

@Frisbieinstein 2 года назад

It's pronounced "San Rahfell".

@frankym69 3 года назад

I thought there were seven levels in minor league baseball and the Atlantic League, the American Association and the Frontier League were were right below that in that order in the Indy circuit.

@johndotcue 3 года назад

Imagine being traded to a team for 6 fucking donuts haha

@gopher6532 3 года назад

it was a 3rd round pick not a player

@elishyahharter1355 3 года назад

Your shit is amazing

@JacionBryant 2 года назад

i love the scene with hallie berry

@mattmcrae1458 3 года назад

By getting other baseball teams to sign their opponents two best players is cheating.

@RubbinRobbin 3 года назад

In conclusion, the Yankees ruined baseball.

@warlikeswine4289 3 года назад

So basically, advance metrics works to a point. And it works when you have the advantage over other teams to continuously gather that info over other teams, And as long as all things remain exactly as they are/were at the beginning. I think advanced metrics can help, and give better statistical analysis of players, but in the end they can't win championships, as shown here and with the Moneyball A's. Add to the fact, baseball is filled with guys like: Buddy Biancalana, Steve Lombardozzi, Scott Leius, Scott Podsednick, David Freese, guys who's metrics probably didn't warrant them doing great things, but then they succeeded or came through in baseball moments contrary to what in depth statistical analysis would say.

@cristiandominguez4274 3 года назад

Dude I’m from Sonoma and Sonoma stoppers is are local teams

@StarrWolf64 3 года назад

It doesn't make sense but it's pronounced San Ra-fell

@SportStorm23 3 года назад

StarrWolf64 really? That is weird

@StarrWolf64 3 года назад

@@SportStorm23 yeah, I grew up in the area. I actually know the photographer for stompers, he might have some inside information if you ever do a follow up.

@alexmyers3000 3 года назад

@@SportStorm23 Can confirm...lived in Marin County for 2 years

@ernestolombardo5811 3 года назад

Brad Pitt: (eats a Twinkie)

@paulhammerich9244 3 года назад

Great and interesting. Please do your research on pronunciations ie San Rafael sounds like San Rafell

@jamesjackson6027 2 года назад

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@guyincognito320 2 года назад

Look, a low level pro ball player loves ****!

@jmedlin81 3 года назад

gayday

@JM-fo1te 3 года назад

Lose the trap music

@Sterlingradioreel 3 года назад

I broadcasted for this league, Sonoma was lowkey ass HAHA

@clickity05productions2 3 года назад

I live there 🙃

@1who4me 3 года назад

Um they had females because at that level the skill gap is 500x closer than the majors. 🤦🏻

@calebmouth 9 месяцев назад

Couldnt get through the video, his voice was too annoying

@mofr4747 3 года назад

I think it ruined the game

@lucasborja3797 3 года назад

It’s the same game, teams are just being smarter to win.

@Soosss 2 года назад

Nah I think it’s good overlooked players can get a shot instead of being overlooked for dumb reasons like “he pitches weird” or “his swing isn’t good enough”

@poosy2 3 года назад

Awful tonal inflection

@Bidwellz9 3 года назад

sabermetrics doesnt work, getting to the playoffs is all good but what about a ring? medicore players wont beat superstars

@alexcruz4322 3 года назад

Sabermetrics is statistics, you can’t say math & probability doesn’t work. It’s literally math. Getting to the playoffs is all you can do. Anything after that is as much luck as skill. The giants won 3 rings in 5 years with a mediocre team, the Nats won in 2019 despite having a weaker team on paper then Dodgers, Yankee’s & Astro’s.

@therealjaystone2344 3 года назад

Moneyball works in the regular season but not in the playoffs where you need clutch hitters and pitchers.

@Bidwellz9 3 года назад

@@alexcruz4322 you can say it doesnt work, refer to my first comment...where are the rings?

@aaronhoy3410 3 года назад

@@Bidwellz9 "... where are the rings?" Well if you mean what teams have used sabermetrics to win World Series championships then the answer is the following: Boston Red Sox - 2004, 2007, 2013, 2018 St. Louis Cardinals - 2006, 2011 New York Yankees - 2009 Chicago Cubs - 2016 Now, I'm not saying that using sabermetrics is the end all, be all for teams & should be the sole basis for which they make decisions if they want to win... however saying that it doesn't work at all like your comment replies is equally ridiculous.