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@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад
Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Thank you for watching guys, I hope all of you who wanted an F-22 Differential Thrust dogfights are satisfied with this one. The Flanker is no push over in a dogfight but the F-22 with thrust vectoring is already so dominant that differential thrust doesn't seem to do a whole lot. Anyway thank you for watching and thank you for the suggestions, keep them coming. Much Love.
@SquirrelLover...
@SquirrelLover... Год назад
Can You Do F/A Super Hornet VS F 35A! Thanks :)
@l1lwayne154
@l1lwayne154 Год назад
One word; BROKEN😂
@1MADZ
@1MADZ Год назад
Thanks for doing this video I requested.
@zeropaladin5803
@zeropaladin5803 Год назад
Raptor vs 4 f14A BVR, give them awacs if you think it still unfair for them. If you want even more challange, go for only having 4 missiles on the raptor. one missile one kill :P
@Shawn-wd4qd
@Shawn-wd4qd Год назад
I have a challenge for you. Next time you can see the other pilot that has already ejected go shoot him with guns. 1:01 you had the chance
@srthebox4946
@srthebox4946 Год назад
As if thrust vectoring wasn’t enough
@artemis8315
@artemis8315 Год назад
Exactly lmao
@coffeewithbeans6209
@coffeewithbeans6209 Год назад
bruh ye
@dawsonkozel4171
@dawsonkozel4171 Год назад
Lmao
@jjhilldodger
@jjhilldodger Год назад
As Hannibal Smith said, "Overkill is underrated."
@STRYKER_b14
@STRYKER_b14 Год назад
Seriously yeah
@ScubaShark--8964
@ScubaShark--8964 Год назад
*_Split Throttle+Thrust Vectoring = 100%Air Superiority_*
@luongduc9119
@luongduc9119 Год назад
*Laughs in BVR*
@Demane69
@Demane69 Год назад
@@luongduc9119 Must be an inside joke then, because you'd be dead before you even knew F-22's were there. ;)
@arcaipekyun4232
@arcaipekyun4232 Год назад
@@luongduc9119 yeah the F22 does that too
@orien-beast_3878
@orien-beast_3878 Год назад
Lol
@reboundrides8132
@reboundrides8132 Год назад
Dogfights are dead
@bleakambition495
@bleakambition495 Год назад
Absolutely in love with the external shots from a distance, really puts the fight into proportion with its environment and gives a good feel to what it would be like to witness it from the ground
@tswims92
@tswims92 Год назад
I think it would be interesting to do F-22 vs F-22 with one using differential thrust while the other isn’t. That we we can see how much more effective it is when used in this airframe.
@danny_boi3537
@danny_boi3537 Год назад
I'd really be surprised if the Raptor won lol
@patchouliknowledge4455
@patchouliknowledge4455 Год назад
@@danny_boi3537 No, you should be more surprised if the raptor won! If it did win, that would make be very surprised that the Raptor won against the Raptor
@Karlan_
@Karlan_ Год назад
Yes!
@sword199723
@sword199723 Год назад
felon vs f22
@IamusTheFox
@IamusTheFox Год назад
I feel like that would still end up being more on the pilot rather than the differential thrust.
@NickArcieri
@NickArcieri Год назад
3:19 You gave the Flanker permanent differential thrust.
@jimmcneal5292
@jimmcneal5292 Год назад
ahahaha
@dumplingcat4215
@dumplingcat4215 Год назад
Lmao
@ceboz
@ceboz Год назад
Pilot “Can we..” Raptor “Yep”
@henyr8464
@henyr8464 Год назад
Lol yes
@StrikeEagIe
@StrikeEagIe Год назад
Actually funny lol
@baginatora
@baginatora Год назад
Raptor (in Terminator voice): "No problemo"
@jarhead1031
@jarhead1031 Год назад
Gotta thank the new top gun for inspiring all these banger split throttle vids
@SupaMan2122
@SupaMan2122 Год назад
Yet we still don’t have one of f14 using split throttle vs felon
@shahriarkhan1220
@shahriarkhan1220 Год назад
I guess F22 itself is a aim9x with a gun
@tinkertalksguns7289
@tinkertalksguns7289 Год назад
I remember when the SU27 was viewed as one of the greatest dogfighters in the sky. Now it's just dogmeat for the F22. Wow.
@Pythos_Sapunov
@Pythos_Sapunov Год назад
As someone who followed the YF-22 and YF-23 in their development, and eventually worked for 7 years on the F-22 itself, i can say that the F-22 was designed with dogfighting in mind, based on the data of our previous generations of aircraft. F-4s were designed without guns because "dogfighting is obsolete" yet they were winding up getting into dogfights. Every Fighter aircraft that we have, F-16, F-15, F-22 and F-35 are built around the idea "Eventually you're going be in this situation" instead of "you'll never be in this situation."
@Cstr0yer
@Cstr0yer Год назад
The same with the su-57 would be cool, since the engines are further apart it might work even better, so if this is possile, would be cool to see ;)
@jeffwilmot5522
@jeffwilmot5522 Год назад
I wonder how much of a difference it'd actually make here since the nozzles are so tight together... whereas on the F-14 they're widely set apart.
@Demane69
@Demane69 Год назад
I think it may have more to do with the difference in computer control and design. Old school fighters benefit from every mechanical advantage you can throw at it. The computer makes the F-22 perform beyond human control as it is, which is reflective in it's design as well.
@Noisy_Cricket
@Noisy_Cricket Год назад
It helped the F15 alot when he tried it.
@profo4544
@profo4544 Год назад
yeah this is what i said. Same reason as if you lose thrust on a trijet, like a dc-10 or a L1011 since the engines are close together losing thrust in one doesnt throw the plane off really. As opposed to wing mounted jets with engines far apart, they need to do alot of retrimming and correcting the stick constantly to keep it flying straight.
@darthsarcastus1064
@darthsarcastus1064 Год назад
Goes to show what digital controls and fly by wire can do versus older technology. Split throttling in an F-14 could induce a flat spin, many newer fighters can compensate for this with computer controlled control surfaces and better training for pilots.
@inorite4553
@inorite4553 Год назад
@@chuckfarley4130 d^2y/dx^2 of Cosine of Theta.
@dystopianlucidity4448
@dystopianlucidity4448 Год назад
I was WAITING patiently for this to get tested! Thanks for doing what your fans request! Amazing first round!
@jasonnato5682
@jasonnato5682 Год назад
A320 vs B737 Dogfight please :)
@cengizteouluyurt7053
@cengizteouluyurt7053 Год назад
Lmaooo, yes please
@WizNick1532
@WizNick1532 Год назад
yoo
@YankeeVatnik1917
@YankeeVatnik1917 Год назад
If that's possible get sully sullenberger on and fight him to the death.
@Cstr0yer
@Cstr0yer Год назад
XD
@TheUnsungHeroes
@TheUnsungHeroes Год назад
Good question
@aggressivelychad
@aggressivelychad Год назад
I was at Daniel K. Inouye International Airport in 2016, and on the return flight back to the mainland we taxied past a pair of F-22s. I doubt many of the passengers noticed, or if they did, they certainly did not know we were passing by one of the deadliest weapons ever made.
@chadmcelroy4194
@chadmcelroy4194 Год назад
The F-22, otherwise known as "a little trolling"
@EndlessInfinity1
@EndlessInfinity1 Год назад
Sweet! Thank you for testing this! I wonder if the su-57 would be more receptive as, if I remember from your videos, it isn't as agile as the f-22. Also, how about the f-15 stol/mtd?
@Editzify
@Editzify Год назад
I legit just asked for a F22 vs F15 Stol/mtd lmfao
@midnightrider1100
@midnightrider1100 Год назад
I think there was an F22 vs SU57 video out there. I think the problem with the SU57 is that there are so few of them and they haven't been effectively put into service and couple that with the fact that last I heard, they were not fitted with the engine they wanted to use in them, and thus, I doubt DCS has an accurate representation of it. It is all theoretical.
@_jaegerboy_
@_jaegerboy_ Год назад
I would love to see the F-15S/MTD in action
@SupaMan2122
@SupaMan2122 Год назад
So if SU57 can do it it neutralizes the f14 doing it unless it was horrible pilot in su57
@MrKook
@MrKook Год назад
@@Editzify he's done F22 vs F15 ACTIVE.
@W1ckedRcL
@W1ckedRcL Год назад
The differential thrust kinda simulates 3D vectoring for the Raptor because it already has 2D.
@thefakequake
@thefakequake Год назад
@@chuckfarley4130 it's useful for certain manoeuvres in a dogfight, but that's rare in a modern day context so I'd say you're right
@kcmsterpce
@kcmsterpce Год назад
I like how at 1:10 the engines are winking at the audience. Nicely done!
@Frontier327
@Frontier327 Год назад
That's the differential thrust
@googlepilot7751
@googlepilot7751 Год назад
I've heard stories of people watching F-22 fights over Nevada and saying the way they fight is like watching a plane back flip flying backwards....the Raptor is ridiculous.
@timsullivan4566
@timsullivan4566 Год назад
The 9-X missile is like "Why should I bother - ya got guns, dontcha...? (yawns)"
@berman00
@berman00 Год назад
You should do F 14 vs F 14. Only difference is that only one is allowed to use differential thrust. See how much of a difference it makes.
@henyr8464
@henyr8464 Год назад
Good idea
@miranda.cooper
@miranda.cooper Год назад
Really love these ground views you're providing. Seeing a dogfight as if it's an airshow gives it some good perspective!
@_jaegerboy_
@_jaegerboy_ Год назад
You ask the Raptor what it can do and she's always gonna answer with "yes"
@kennyj4366
@kennyj4366 Год назад
I love those external shots. F-22 = Beauty and Grace in motion.
@samuelttvbtw
@samuelttvbtw Год назад
Next: SU-57 differential thrust
@dylanwight5764
@dylanwight5764 Год назад
You raised a good point about what the cobra can actually do -- it can give you enough time to punch out in a losing battle and save your life.
@andyf104
@andyf104 Год назад
0:50 That's just like carving a Christmas turkey!
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich Год назад
1:00 "I've just broken two of your ribs." *WHACK* "... Sorry, make that three."
@veleriphon
@veleriphon Год назад
And here we have an F-22 Raptor. Watch as it dances like a leaf on the wind and plays with its food.
@dameion75
@dameion75 Год назад
Love the video man. Eagle drivers have been using differential throttles for a long time. A good thing to remember is that the further apart the engines are the better effect the differential thrust will have. Again, awesome video bro keep up the good work!
@rjlebeau2012
@rjlebeau2012 Год назад
"ONE OF the most capable dog fighters of all time" as he's gunning down a SU-27 on turn 1 with ease.. there is nothing better, my friend.
@slateman_8490
@slateman_8490 Год назад
B52 split throttle when?
@butchblakesley6239
@butchblakesley6239 Год назад
Do F-22 vsF-22. The only way to see if TV is a factor. Or the SU-57 Felon. Might be interesting. As an old Navy Aircrewman, I truly enjoy your content. I wish you CAVU skies. And equal numbers of takeoffs and landings.
@butchblakesley6239
@butchblakesley6239 Год назад
@@DefinitelyNotEmma I have been an aviation enthusiast (he means addict) for 40 or more years. Its nice to see (he is gonna make a gross assumption at this point) a Lady with enthusiasm for Airplanes. It was always men at the field. Flying R/C is my hobby.(again, with him its an addiction) Good to see things changing. Wishing you CAVU skies. If I have put my foot in my mouth here, my apologies.
@bucky5869
@bucky5869 Год назад
The maneuverability of the raptor is just plain sick. You might have to take on 3 flankers to make it a bit more fair of a fight.
@derekturner3272
@derekturner3272 Год назад
The "Cobra" seems great at giving you an extra few seconds to eject... But staying with a stalling plane in a dogfight seems a recipe expediting a meeting with your maker.
@davidhall2197
@davidhall2197 Год назад
Hot damn, son. The way you were slicing and dicing thru those Flankers your call name should be Ginsu.
@johnmarek1103
@johnmarek1103 Год назад
I love how chill you are when filming. love ur vids man keep up the hard work.
@MattWaller04
@MattWaller04 Год назад
Holy shit that first kill. HE WASN’T READYYYYYYY 😂😂😂
@brandon7136
@brandon7136 Год назад
If the AIM9X was missing that bad imagine the 9M.
@picklejarofdeath
@picklejarofdeath Год назад
5:35 "Civilians, as an apology for dropping a Flanker on your heads and costing you millions in property damage, I will be putting on an airshow for you."
@ghost.8445
@ghost.8445 Год назад
Next Video Idea:- Two same or similar aircraft Differential Thrust Dogfight. Like we know Differential Thrust gives an edge in a dogfight. But It'd be interesting to see what happens when both the aircraft are using Differential Thrust to get that edge. It could be fun, you never know.
Год назад
Differential thrust was supposed to help an underdog turn the odds, NOT giving even more of an obscene advantage :D ! Also you're very kind offering an air display for the downed pilot to be entertained during the descent :D.
@patatabrozne7548
@patatabrozne7548 Год назад
Can you do a A10 differential thrust with it on a dogfight?
@appalachianoperator
@appalachianoperator Год назад
That first one has a shit ton of trust me bro energy
@BlakeJoy
@BlakeJoy Год назад
F-16 over here being like...if I had two engines, I would show them!
@tyvernoverlord5363
@tyvernoverlord5363 Год назад
F-CK-1 from Taiwan. 2 Engine "F-16"
@ohmygoshitscole
@ohmygoshitscole Год назад
The tail shots look like a furby opening one of its eyes, menacingly
@zachcherry3811
@zachcherry3811 Год назад
GS when driving his vehicle through a roundabout: "alright, so we're into a two circle turn here with this Mustang, but it's okay because we're going to outrate him in this Corvette."
@Gillymonster18
@Gillymonster18 Год назад
Ever seen a cat just pawing a mouse back and forth like it’s bored? The mouse is freaking out desperately doing anything it can….the F-22 is the cat.
@Thomas-zc4vh
@Thomas-zc4vh Год назад
Hey Growling Sidewinder! Can you do F-16 vs F-16 or any jets vs Longshot? (BVR and Dogfight) I was thinking you sould show both point of views to see what you and Longshot were think. I think it would be different but very interesting! Thanks!
@scappley1735
@scappley1735 Год назад
You're harnessing so much potential from the F-22 that the government is on edge
@MegaEvoluzione
@MegaEvoluzione Год назад
My heart goes out to this valiant poor little flanker
@henryl531
@henryl531 Год назад
You publish your videos usually an hour before my lunch. First thing I do is watch it. Keep it up!
@michellehsu5158
@michellehsu5158 Год назад
The cobra is basically the extended life warranty for the pilots
@Konanzor
@Konanzor Год назад
Would it be possible to do some unit tests on DT? Just wondering if it's a placebo effect kicking in. Would be good to see the F-14 doing rolls/turns etc. with and without DT and see what sort of angles and rates you're achieving with and without it. Also interested to see what happens with a full single engine shut down vs just the AB being turned off.
@NationChosenByGod
@NationChosenByGod Год назад
The Yf-22 was originally designed with two machine guns on both sides so that implies the Yf-22 was meant for masters at wvr, and capable of bvr as well.
@helplmchoking
@helplmchoking Год назад
How to reliably dogfight a Raptor: Eject as soon as possible, assuming you even see the damn thing
@ernestobeltran7802
@ernestobeltran7802 Год назад
Love watching these videos. I've even started downloading it for being a spectator for over a few months. Any tips on learning these flying techniques? Keep up the content! The F22 is definitely a beast!
@nathanielrose6782
@nathanielrose6782 Год назад
Cobra extends your life for a few more seconds, long enough to think about your life choices and eject
@brandons9398
@brandons9398 Год назад
GS you bust me up! “After all is said and done, might as well put on a little air show.” LMAO!
@truthseeker9454
@truthseeker9454 Год назад
OK, that tail on view was great -- thanks for that, GS!
@jakeedwards5306
@jakeedwards5306 Год назад
I’d love to see differential thrust in WW2 aircraft like the P38 Lightning!
@baomao7243
@baomao7243 Год назад
4:06 The Flanker doesn’t even last for NINE seconds 😳
@303Pinker
@303Pinker Год назад
That su 27 was doing some wild manovers but F22 is just different animal 💪
@carsons4896
@carsons4896 Год назад
The "behind the Raptor" shot while executing diff thrust was dope. Reminded me of a winking Ferbi! LOL
@johnhutsler8122
@johnhutsler8122 Год назад
A legit challenge would be the SU-57 vs F-22 - A regular match at first to get to know the turning capabilities and normal behavior during the fight, and then using the Diff. Thrust to see if any advantages can be seen
@TheFlyingSailorYT
@TheFlyingSailorYT Год назад
The F-22 is already OP... now it's god-like.
@danrazART
@danrazART Год назад
Teachers "hey raptor, you finished your physics assignment?" Raptor " we have physics? 😂
@__-fm5qv
@__-fm5qv Год назад
The F-22: For when you don't want physics to happen...
@sls12III
@sls12III Год назад
"How do you make the most maneuverable jet more maneuverable?" GS:
@MC88AATW
@MC88AATW Год назад
I clocked out for lunch and within seconds, a GS video appears. It's a good day now.
@draleigh8881
@draleigh8881 Год назад
the f 22 was designed to be the best fighter jet in the sky at everything. bvr, dogfighting, you name it... it's the best. period.
@kevw25
@kevw25 Год назад
The F22 can fly like how I imagined fighter planes could fly when I was 5 and playing with model planes
@crawson0311
@crawson0311 Год назад
Went to an airshow earlier in the summer and the f22 there was doing things I expect to see in a scifi movie. Later the pilot was singing photos and he said it was a pretty easy day. The tricks he was doing was nothing to what it CAN do.
@drizzd1
@drizzd1 Год назад
watching the F-22 never gets old
@OCinneide
@OCinneide Год назад
Differential thrust helped me get rid of my alcohol addiction.
@CasualAmin
@CasualAmin Год назад
He gives the flanker differential thrust by taking out an engine lmao
@worldsedge4991
@worldsedge4991 Год назад
Awesome shockwave @3:35. I did not realize those spread so far.
@rodneyjacobs1228
@rodneyjacobs1228 Год назад
Here we have the rare F-22 in it's natural environment, playing with its food.
@sebsunda
@sebsunda Год назад
Note of the Cobra Maneuver: You want to use the inverted one if you have to use it. It give you better energy recuperation options at the exit. Naturally, you need a bit of height if you are to use it as that kinetic energy recuperation will come at the expense of your potential energy. But at least you will be less vulnerable than if you would have used the regular cobra.
@303Pinker
@303Pinker Год назад
Any type of cobra is kind of desperation. Even cobra in downward direction. As GS pointed out cobra gives just a few more seconds of life till other plane go around and finish job. Even downward half split without Cobra is risky cause of tremendous energy lost. Imagine other plane don't follow downward but go high yoyo and finish plane sitting just below without initiative and speed.
@BRCIce
@BRCIce Год назад
Always fun to watch your show. Thanks buddy.
@Sigmatrix510
@Sigmatrix510 Год назад
The F-22 is a beast 🔥💯
@cemags1315
@cemags1315 Год назад
F-22 is essentially just drifting in the air
@georgejimenez4396
@georgejimenez4396 Год назад
The F-22 is such a beast!!
@trealosgaming3345
@trealosgaming3345 Год назад
The two woundings were cruel as you circled like a shark
@Maxthepro1012
@Maxthepro1012 Год назад
Quote by Growling Sidewinder : You dont need that wing dude😂
@cineva-wb1pk
@cineva-wb1pk Год назад
Man, this was straight up an execution
@Ariana321
@Ariana321 Год назад
Now that's just overkill...
@marcbow
@marcbow Год назад
The F-22 doesn't obey the laws of physics. You must have had a defective batch of 9x's loaded out! I especially couldn't believe that last one, there no way it should have missed!
@magnummax78
@magnummax78 Год назад
The F-22 against anything is like Mike Tyson fighting the world toughest toddler.🫣
@rattleheadx
@rattleheadx Год назад
Somebody needs to find out the lot number on those Sidewinders... They gotta go back to the factory!
@gymcelsocialism
@gymcelsocialism Год назад
Your F-22 piloting makes the arcade flying in AC7 look reasonable by comparison. Unreal performance out of you and that machine
@N0B0DY_SP3C14L
@N0B0DY_SP3C14L Год назад
The F-22 is a BEAST!!
@DJB-427
@DJB-427 Год назад
Loved the comment about diff thrust in the Viper lmaooo
@NovosOrdoMundi
@NovosOrdoMundi Год назад
Love these vids. Really think thrust diff is a waste or handicap compared to full X/Y thrust vector for real world application. Keep up the awesome work Growls. I wish & could sit around playing DCS all day. You literally have my dream job.
@yellowhammer72
@yellowhammer72 Год назад
I can only assume that the guy who said the F22 can’t dog fight got it confused with the F35.
@msytdc1577
@msytdc1577 Год назад
@@DefinitelyNotEmma based on pilot interviews since the F-35 received updates enabling it's true capabilities it seems they would take the F-35 over any other aircraft other than the F-22 with regards to dog fighting. It seems many in the general public are still hung up on the performance of the F-35 when it was software limited and don't realize it is an entirely different beast at this point.
@jackpitw
@jackpitw Год назад
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee
@itskaptainmikey4399
@itskaptainmikey4399 Год назад
You need to re-do the F22 vs. SU57 differential thrust!
@drew2046
@drew2046 Год назад
The cobra seems like a double or nothing kinda thing. If you do it and are able to capitalize on it immediately you get the kill. If you don’t then your dead
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