The F-35A made its aerial demonstration debut on June 19, 2017 at the Paris Air Show in front of crowds of thousands. Watch this impressive display of 5th Generation innovation in aviation. f35.com/pas17
That was pretty unique, loved the slow pass and the square loop, a clever display of maneuvers in a tight airspace, considering this thing's thrust to weight ratio, good show.
For those wondering why the aircraft seems slow: The program for this performance was mostly about slow speed flight and showing off the amount of control that the aircraft has and the unique aspects of the high angle of attack maneuvering: aviationweek.com/paris-air-show-2017/f-35-demo-pilot-paris-performance-will-crush-years-misinformation "The flight demonstration is carefully scripted to highlight the kinematic capabilities of the F-35A, particularly its slow-speed handling qualities, said Flynn. He will start with an afterburner takeoff, almost immediately pointing his nose to the sky and letting the aircraft climb away essentially vertically. This impressive move is unique to the F-22 and the F-35, he said. Next, Flynn will reverse back in front of the crowd, and perform a “square loop” to show the aircraft’s instantaneous pitch capability and high angle-of-attack (AOA) maneuverability. Then he will turn around, reverse back in front of the crowd, and perform a slow-speed, high-AOA pass. Afterward, he will light the afterburner and fly straight up into the sky once again. From there, Flynn will pull up vertically in front of the crowd and execute a maximum AOA “power loop,” where the aircraft flips on its back-another signature Raptor move. Then he will initiate a spiral at 50 degrees AOA, called a “pedal turn,” which he says will be the most impressive part of the entire routine. After reversing again in front of the crowd, the last move is a maximum-G, 360-deg. turn, which highlights the maximum-rate, minimum-radius-turn capability of the aircraft, Flynn said. The F-35 in its current 3i configuration is limited to 7g; when the fighter gets its full war-fighting capability with the final 3F software, it will be able to pull 9gs."
I believe this is Billie Flynn flying the first ever air show demo of the F35. He was a long time premier test pilot for Lockheed Martin, the Eurofighter, and an F18 combat pilot in the RCAF for twenty years. He now trains test pilots at the International Test Pilot School in London, Ont.
Considering the remit of the display, and the fact that it's a first outing, this looked great to me. Some subtly great moves here. I wasn't expecting that much. The stupid, pre-formed f35-is-shit comments on the other hand, were entirely predictable. This aeroplane is going to win every encounter it has, purely because it is the most harshly underrated thing that ever had wings.
Good enough... look at all the Su 27family of fighters...including Su30/33 and the most recent Su-35 etc... do cobra movement at air show seems so cool. in real war had proven almost mostly useless....when against western nation fighters and planes .
Most planes when you pull back on the stick both horizontal stabilizers move at the same time. Same with the vertical stabilizers and basically all flight control surfaces. Watch how active the tail is as all surfaces move independent of eachother with a very advanced fly by wire system allowing for far more maneuverability than you guys thought now that the handicaps have been taken off. This plane is very capable and very maneuverable.
A combat plane today has to be much more agile than WWI for they have to evade missiles. This flying brick can't outmanoeuvre a weather balloon! bwahahaha!
US military brass are very well prepared to fight WWII, but life shows, that every war moves military technology very unexpected ways. F35 design philosophy repeats American design philosophy of F-4, before Vietnam war American generals pronounced that dog fighting is over and supersonic speed is the king. USA paid heavy price loosing thousands of airplanes due to AAA and SAM.
“We took off out of Madison (to join the fight),” said Lt. Col. Bart Van Roo, the commander of the Wisconsin Air National Guard’s 176th FS, which has F-16 Fighting Falcons. “We went to our simulated airfield out in the far part of the airspace. As the two ship from the northern half of the airspace we turned hot, drove for about 30 seconds and we were dead, just like that. We never even saw (the F-35A).” www.hill.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/931394/f-35a-continues-fifth-generation-tradition-of-air-superiority-against-legacy-ai/
To understand the F-35, one must understand modern warfare. This is not the modern aerial version of a Sherman tank. It's more of a command-and-control capable, supersonic, airborne-weapons platform. And, by virtue of its nature, and the nature of its potential threats, it can show off a bit at an airshow. The further future of air dominance will probably be a 3-D maneuvering, anti-gravity sphere, with directed energy-type weapons. Will it create the visceral experience of 70,000lbs of F-22 thrust blowing by the crowd? No. But it will be faster, deadlier, and more maneuverable than anything else in human inventory. Right now, the F-35 is the main event. It's not made to overwhelm the senses. It's made to defeat them. Enjoy seeing loud, fire-spitting jets at shows now. Their days are numbered.
I too would call something that will happen in at least a minimum of a century later “numbered” are you seriously thinking anti gravity spheres with laser weapons would come anytime in the next 10 years? Wake up from your fever dream pal
@@insertdeadmemehere9397 Have you been living under a rock? The vehicles are already here. Will we see them at air shows? Probably not for at least 25 years? Lasers? Probably MASERs, gravity beam weapons, and/or neutral particle beam weapons, all of which have been built and tested.
@@LostAnFound I know laser weapons exist and work against aircraft but all that gravity bs? You are saying that they would be able to manipulate or turn off gravity and fly at incredible speeds in the near future. I’m not sure how that would work but it probably happens on an atomic scale sometimes. If that’s the case, do u think it will take less than half a century to scale up to our macro world and work effectively?
@@insertdeadmemehere9397 Yes, that is what I’m saying. Read the book, Hunt for Zero Point by Nick Cook (former Jane’s Defence contributor and weapons expert). Or, read Hal Puthoff’s paper on spacetime metric engineering here: arxiv.org/pdf/1204.2184.pdf Or Read this paper, The Impulse Generator, by Evgeny Podklentov: pdfs.semanticscholar.org/70b6/0cf306a162fe4273b71d057a3a141bdec280.pdf . . . the same man whose spinning, ceramic, superconducting disk experiments were successfully in reducing gravity: www.wired.com/1998/03/antigravity/ They were ready to formally publish this finding, and it had been featured in many popular periodicals, but suddenly, for some reason, he and his Dutch co-researchers retracted the submission. There is a lot more out there too, if you just look up the science. Try researching high frequency gravitational wave generators by beginning with this patent that the USPTO awarded to a supposed Salvatore Cesar Pais (I’m not sold on the name being real) and assigned to the US Secretary of the Navy: patents.google.com/patent/US10322827B2/en
@@insertdeadmemehere9397 Here’s a list of BS being developed by the Navy. It’s really special BS because the Secretary of the Navy had to offer up the fact that these patents are not just theoretical, but actually being demonstrated with test articles. He added that the importance of the Navy owning these patents (publicly) was of increasing importance because of same-area advancements by China and presumably Russia. You don’t wanna have to pay Bejing to build your own flying saucer / Tic-Tac: patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+Pais
MiG-21 A2A Kill ratio 240 to 501 MiG-23 Kill ratio 25 to 102 MiG-25 8 to 8 MiG-29 6 to 18 Su-27 6 to 0 F-15 102 to 0 F-16 77 to 1 (Turkish F-16 shot down by Greek Mirage 2000)
Beyond visual range the f35 is a killer plane. It can even jam f 22 radar. within visual range it is shaping up to be a decent dog fighter. When the engine is uprgaded to more thrust it would be even better
I didn't expect that pedal turn! And this A model is still restricted to 7g's. With the "nearly complete" software and engine upgrades, the F-35 will be fully unleashed!!!
Looks slightly more agile than I expected. Hopefully the engine upgrade will come quickly. No F-22 video? Thank you for the hard work on the F-35. Any upgrades would be well received.
Basically none. It's fuselage generates more than 30 percent of its lift. It's doing manouvres that aircraft with thrust vectoring are doing. Bear in mind it's still limited to 7gs still later in the year, so it'll be able to push even harder once it's opened to 9g's in the coming months.
Considering the reputation of the F35, these maneuvers are pleasantly unexpected. I'm wondering if the thrust vectoring technology can eventually be added to this aircraft.
Old comment, I know, but certainly _possible_ that the A or C variant could incorporate thrust vectoring with a new engine design. The B variant, most likely not, since it already has a specific thrust vectoring design for vertical flight. However, the specific advantage of thrust vectoring is chiefly to enable supermaneuverability, which is certainly useful in a dogfight, but less useful for other operations, and the F-35 was not designed with dogfighting in mind (that is for the F-22), so how valuable it would really be to the F-35 is probably marginal; it wouldn't necessarily hurt it, but it wouldn't offer enough of an advantage to justify the additional cost for the engines and complexity of the software. Where thrust vectoring would be supremely useful, however, would in an aircraft that had no ailerons, no flaperons, no rudders, and no stabilizers; two engines with software that could manage asymmetrical thrust vectoring and no control surfaces could, in theory, make up the shape of the stealthiest aircraft possible. Would that offer a significant enough advantage over current generation low observable aircraft? Probably not. But it would be pretty cool.
If you set the video to 1.5X speed it looks kinda like an f-16 viper demo. If this thing gets full combat payload, it will have a turning radius similar to the SR-71 at Mach 3.
Mark Lol what? :D I am pretty sure it did not carry jdams, sidewinders, ammo for the gun and it did not have full fuel onboard.. I seriously doubt that aircrafts on show are allowed to carry any armament. I am not sure where did you get that idea..
@@604WOLVERINE It wasn't. It's really easy to tell it wasn't done at full payload. At it's true full payload of 8,100 kilograms, it has to carry equipment externally.
I saw a diagram of his flight plan and it called for what is called a "square loop". So, your eyes were not deceiving you. It's actually a common aerobatic maneuver.
Tim Rutkevich - No one will ever confuse you with someone who understands aerodynamic handling. That's something, I guess. Have another shot of vodka and raise a toast to your paymaster, your Great Dictator.
0:02 that take-off roll and vertical climb and the capability to maintain control at such low speeds afterwards... From 3:28 to 3:55 is pure F-22 without the thurst vectoring assistance (impressive as hell) 4:34 marks the start of a seriously short minimum radius turn with excellent sustained lift and thus speed ("draggy" "fat" and "too heavy" critics are full of shit)
Considering it had a 50% internal fuel load equating to over 9,000 lbs compared to the 2,500-3,000 lb internal fuel load other aircraft carry at displays in a non-combat configuration I'd say my standards are far from low. Or are you honestly going to try and tell me that adding an extra 6,000 - 6,500 lbs of external ordinance (see the F-35 carries internally and is in a combat config here) wouldn't handicap other aircraft? Lol, yeah, such low standards...
Izno Iznogoud More spurious comments with no links. Yea, we understand. Despite your presumption of ascendancy. You should not be surprised if people ask for links or sources to back up your absurd claims.
Don't be daft. The Typhoon and Rafales radar are seeing the Luneburg lenses that must be attached to the fuselage of the F35 & Raptors every time these planes train together. Claims they are seeing the planes themselves is disingenuous. Even the most basic internet search will explain this. In the Rafales gun camera footage You can actually see these Luneburg lenses. If You want to delude yourself in to actually believing this is analogous to getting a radar lock on the F35 or Raptor. Be my guest. You are right the F35 is looking promising.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zgLjNsB_hyM.html
"Rafale doesn't give a fuck about using radars" ...LOL. Good luck banning F35 from NATO/EU members. The UK, Canada, Denmark, Norway, Italy, Turkey, Australia and the Netherlands might have something to say about that. Not to mention S.Korea and Japan are NATO& EU allies. How many countries are buying Rafales? 3?
elpais.com/elpais/2017/06/05/inenglish/1496652196_078384.amp.html Totally forgot Spain another NATO & EU Country wants the F35. More countries in the EU want the F35 than Rafales. Good luck wit that ban.
So how long is it going to be before it can even fire its internal gun? And how long will it be before it's FULLY combat certified on all systems, again?
What you armchair aces fail to grasp is the F-35 is a smart bird, not a brawler. It integrates all other attack and ISR assets so that it doesn't need to close into a knife fight. If it did it has roughly the same maneuverability as an F-16. It's also limiting it's full control surface deflection. The precision it is executing each maneuver is completely machine-like as well, very little drifting or sliding. In short, my son is going to enjoy his job when these phase out the Viper.
Таки да. - "Испытания и опытная эксплуатация истребителей F-35 показали, что топливная система самолета, занимающая большие объемы в крыле и в фюзеляже вокруг двигателя, подвержена серьезным рискам развития катастрофического пожара или взрыва. Согласно докладу, огневые испытания показали уязвимость топливной системы от повреждений, ведущих к последовательному возгоранию топлива, пожару топливной или гидравлической систем с последующим взрывом. " - "к устойчивому возгоранию ведет прострел воздухозаборника, из-за утечки гидравлической жидкости, а также прострел в районе перепускных створок канала воздухозаборника, из-за расположенных вокруг него топливных баков, приводя к катастрофическому повреждению планера" - "к устойчивому возгоранию ведет прострел воздухозаборника, из-за утечки гидравлической жидкости, а также прострел в районе перепускных створок канала воздухозаборника, из-за расположенных вокруг него топливных баков, приводя к катастрофическому повреждению планера" ======================= Истребитель пилотов ВВС США
Ну, русских оттуда выставили, теперь самый приличный самолёт там это французкий же Рафаэль. А это.... ну, летает он заметно поприличнее чем на прошлых аэрошоу, даже какой никакой высший пилотаж присутствует, а не просто пролёты по прямой. На большее он вряд ли способен, программная компенсация и так работает с заметными тормозами.
StigmADiabolicuM not exactly a graceful exhibition. I have a feeling that partner nations will be cutting their orders significantly. you certainly can't just believe what the USAF and Lockheed say about the aircraft, kill ratios, etc.. no air force pilot would dare criticize the airplane while serving, but once experts and foreign pilots start talking, it's going to be a firestorm.
Jt Williams1 - Maybe you'll get lucky and they'll order 30 year old technology from Russia. But then they'd still need to retrofit them with Western avionics and engines, so don't get your hopes up.
Its nothing strange that some1 orders planes from 1 country and electronics from other and i never heard that something is wrong with russian engines after all f35 has yak-141s engine ;)
so far F35 has proofed that its an amazing jet with single engine,eventhough its not designed for traditional dog fight but it really shows its capability of short turn and lifting,with its low detective skin and high performance, it will guard USA for the next 30 years
Well now see that's our real power...the ability to get so many to buy, and others that want to buy a complete and utter POS....now that's a world power for ya! Sorry Adolf but how long did it take you to get all that pertinent info and find the time to give us this rendition of "I hate the F-35"? I can only surmise that the KGB trolls we hear about and oh by the way don't exist...do exist! :)
I saw it at the first aerial demonstration in Europe at the luchtmachtdagen 2016. Where the Dutch airforce put it between f16 in a combat simulation on low level. It looked like a UFO from a distance and really hurts to the ears(f16 is loud but doesn't hurt that much) so take earplugs!! The event was the first moment a f35 was tested in combat like situations in front of hundred of thousands of people by a foreign pilot.
As if (perceived) manueverability was so vital. Maybe get an RC plane? Those appear to go really fast. It kicks ass in high angle of attack and also acceleration, a very interesting combo. People also forget that in this stealth configuration it contains weapons and fuel that (in a 4th gen plane) massively alters performance to achieve par. Load up external stores and fuel tanks, and conventional planes massively slow down and lose agility. So it's actually quite the match even in this regime. Then add the other 5-6 areas in which it has a decisive advantage (sensor fusion, advanced networking, stealth, better flight automation, advanced logistical chain, multi-zone, basing flexibility, unit cost, universal platform targeting and data collection). It's no contest, really...and Belgium, Japan and Isreal have all increased buy-in, among others.
To me it seems way less manouverable than SU 35. But I believe it's mostly meant for beyond visual range encounters. Or maybe they're not showing everything.
Well... insults will not change the fact that you are paying your taxes so your AF could have a flaying high-tech stealth brick... But, you know, it is your money dude and you know what is the best for your country i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/24/article-2134453-12BDA96C000005DC-649_634x423.jpg p.s. DO NOT google newest SU-35S videos from MAKS 2017... No point in hurting your self over other man's interest...
1. The F-35 does not meet all the requirements for the fifth generation. 2. Okay, the F-35 can fly. Why is this strange? This is Fighter plane. I did not notice anything that other (modern) fighter planes can not do. I really do not understand why some are so enthusiastic. What is innovation here?
lol... that F35 will own any fighter jet on earth if it was in a aerial fight... it would hit any other fighter jet before they even knew the F35 was there... F35 has a 20 to ONE win to loss ratio against the BEST fighter jets already in existence MASSIVE performance and stealth increase
"ol... that F35 will own any fighter jet on earth if it was in a aerial fight... it would hit any other fighter jet before they even knew the F35 was there.." Not in real war. The F-35 is stealth (not invisible) only for a limited range of frequencies (X-band mostly). Modern fighters fly in formations. They are networked not only with each other, but also with radars on the ground (these are radars that use much longer waves). Even in the case of an X-band, the stelt is effective only (and only) in case the transmitter and receiver are at the same point. " F35 has a 20 to ONE win to loss ratio against the BEST fighter jets already in existence MASSIVE performance and stealth increas" The F-35 has never been against the best fighters on the world. Red Flag is in fact a kind of computer game. Like any computer game, this depends on the parameters that you have entered into the program of the computer. If you put 90% for BVR missiles, this does not have much to do with reality. Look at the recording from the hearing in (I think) the American Congress. The US generate at one point says that the "bad guy" could not see the F-35 on his radar, even when he had a visual detection. If you have an average radar (which works normally), this is even theoretically impossible. At least according to the laws that apply to our universe.
Agreed the F-22 is better suited to performing in the tight airshow box because of its thrust vectoring capabilities which allow it to brute force its way through low and slow manuvers. The F-35 with its big (elevators) does better with more airflow over them to generate the pitching moment for manuvers which is the trade off the engieers new they were making when they opted not to spec thrust vectoring.
We know. Russia have Sukhoi. Very powerful. Looks like a collapsed barn in real life but anyway, congratulations. You already produced 3 of them? That's incredible.
Наверное по тому, что манёвренность вторична для истребителя ещё со времён второй мировой. Но неграмотные до сих пор сравнивают истребители по возможностям веражного боя.
