F-5 Tiger Vs Mirage 2000 Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS | 

Alright okay, video 9 seconds ago, comment 27 minutes ago, how??

@@anonymous17367 If you have a membership, you can watch the video sooner... I suppose.

Lol no, RU-vid allows creators to post comments before you guys see the video the delay is due to RU-vid processing the video in preparation for its release.

@@GrowlingSidewinder oh okay👍

Plz make the dog fight between F35 vs Rafale.

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(insert jordan peele sweating gif) lmaooo im dying from that comment.

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I didn't understood this comment until I watched the video: 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

yup

Plot armor

Bet Tom Cruise was in that Mirage

​@@laloaguirre9847 yup.

Lol yeah

wow, I not only got robbed...I got played too...

I will agree with you if it is factual the Mirage can take that many hits. I mean that is a friggin tank with wings then.

@@GrowlingSidewinder He played you like a damn fiddle!

@@GrowlingSidewinder Looked like a mirage, flew like a mirage, but its weapons and armor were comparable to an a-10.

@@mrbreck1 It is an SU 25 in disguise... lol

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The Mirage pilot was main lining Stimpacks and Psycho each time he got hit! (Fallout reference)

Little did GS know the mirage had already consumed 487 cheese wheels

@@privatelisting366 ⚡💥🤣🥲😹😂😹

He ate like 458 potatoes (Skyrim reference)

Shit simulation programming kept that Mirage in the air. I wouldn’t even take that as a loss.

The guy with the highest figting spirit always wins. At least, that's what I've learned from anime...

That and Dassault engineers..

@@SvenTviking it's razbam.... shit is what they do.Never buy from them.

The feeling of French superiority kept the plane from falling out of the sky

I'm telling all y'all it's sabotage!

I’m rafaling

I see what ya did there, good one!

If you thought you hit it, just hit it more.

@@FightCain I am telling you, I was gripen my seat the whole time.

Thats why everyone else uses 27mm or 30mm haha

Ray Holmes: If guns are not enough there is always ram in option.

Speaking of ram... "You simply can't replace RAM, but with more RAM." No replace "RAM" with "mm" :) In other words: Size does matter (that's what she said) XD

Mirage : That's 30mm for you. Deal with it. 8-)

More like DEFA cannon goes brrrr but well... both work.

This mgr quote is underrated ^^

Have you ever fought a US senator with a laser katana?

@@beng7844 no, but some oddly charming robodog :p

He kept him waiting

Sounds about right. WWII statistics tell that a single 30mm hit was usually enough to kill a fighter, vs. about 5 20mm hits.

@@jbepsilon - The problem is that Mirage was hit by at least 20 shells from those M39 canons on the F-5. Something is definitely not correct in the modeling/programing of the amount of damage a 20mm HEAPI can do.

Underrated comment ^^

Well, seeing as there are no holes in Swiss Cheese, are you implying that GS missed all of its shots ? (Oh and, Swiss cheese isn't a thing, I think you're talking about "Gruyère" which is one of the several famous cheese in Switzerland ;) )

@@stitch77100 you must be a riot at parties

@@zaphodt3405 Because I know stuffs and point out other people mistakes in a friendly and kinda funny way ? You'd be surprised how well I actually do, especially in Switzerland, as I have lived there for 3 years ;) It's one of those topics that always have to come back when someone speak about holes in cheese. And if you ever ate a Fondue, you'd know the cheeses in it are different than the gruyère. It's kind of a big deal in the Alpine culture tbh. And it's delicious too, which doesn't hurt either. But about the original comment, I agree that GS did hit the mirage quite a few times, and with anything other than a 20mm on a sturdy plane, it would have been a kill. But the mirage is quite a sturdy plane, and the 20mm are not the most powerful ammo in the range. It is the difference between "throw enough [shells] at the enemy, and some of it could eventually disable the plane or the pilot, and the bigger more powerful calibres, like 23 or 30mm, where the rate of fire is lower, so the hit chances are a bit fewer too, but any hit will be crippling and have a real impact. Different philosophy for doing war : quantity vs "quality" (but I'd rather say Impact in this case) The damage model may be broken, or not, I don't know, but the Mirage should not have lasted so long IMO. Especially considering that it is a single motor jet and smoking very dark. But there have been numerous occasion where planes came back full of holes and still able to carry their mission, especially bombers in WW2. So a hit is not always a guaranty of neutralisation, and sometimes, the bullet just rips on highly angled plate, or just goes through. So, the Swiss cheese plane have more chance to continue flying than the one hit by one or two 30mm shells ;) (yeah, I'm kind of a nerd about guns, ammo and ballistic science, which makes actually great party discussions)

​@@stitch77100 Yeah, people nearly always make the mistake. Also, for the OP, the Mirage's pilot turned the Tiger into a pelt rug. ;)

Wow that explain things. On MP there were guys flying like they had infinite Rocket motors... And were as tough as this mirage LOL

@@rgrigio I remember another player had effectively infinite armor on the coptor on the map with no hanger. After doing very well at the beginning of the match being invulnerable he quickly ran out of ammo. The map was the ocean map that no re arming hanger. He flew around for the rest of the match trying to crash into the water to respawn with a full load. He couldn’t do it. Ended up loosing. Was satisfying to watch. To smart by half I guess.

Yea, those turbines would have been denigrated!

You should fight an f15, those things are immortal, super broken damage model lol

@@StoneCoolds hehe... well they have flown/landed with 1 wing irl... just sayin

@@kennethhicks2113 Um... so? The f14 has landed with 1 wing literally ripped off. And many others had it worse. Like f105's in vietnam...

It’s funny, cause is Brazilian Air Force, the f5 and the mirage were rivals, and most of the time the f5 win in dogfights

@@valkoharja But only if the pilot in the better platform has the patience to force the fight into what best suits them. Odds are the F-5 and Mirage are better under different conditions, even if the Mirage is a better fighter overall.

'Everyone' always seems to say they did well against the yanks.The RAF guys hell even RNZAF say they kicked ass with Skyhawks. And of course now RAAF.

@@rogerpattube I think that there is an element of measuring yourself against the elephant in the room. Particularly when the elephant assumes that beating you is going to be a cake walk ;-)

@@pedrodealmeidabianchi3569 ye mirage 3 not mirage 2000

nah not even Gaijin's damage models are this BS... usually...

NAh mirage falls out of the sky if it even gets glanced at.

Reminded me of dumping 2000 rounds of 7.92mm into the back of an I-16 flying straight and level for evaluation purpose in Oleg's World back in the day :D And then wondering why that thing kept on flying - with all that extra weight pumped into it XD

I was thinking paintballs, but either works… or doesn’t in this case. Seriously, he’d have been better off opening the canopy and throwing his helmet at the mirage as it went past.

Ayyyy.

😂 Boom!!!

That's just the visual damage model, that doesn't mean that bullets made these holes and therefore that these parts were actually hit

While true, he's hit the fuselage repeatedly, and somehow despite there being an internal fire for quite a while, the engine, hydraulics, or avionics suffered no meaningful damage. That engine, in particular, should've been utterly shredded.

It isn't over until the fat lady sings and he din' hear nothing over his steel balls claning.

@@desert_jin6281 = GS has a real claim here. Did you see that Mirage? Holy shit! He was riddled with 20mm holes! You mean no absolute vital avionics weren't damaged in those hits! The FCS gets hit, fughettaboutit!

@@NeutronRob as soon as you're pretty damaged it's that damage model regardless if the wholes are accurately placed it's always the same ones.

@@nallezpasvoiryarien6049 You sure about that? GS called a tracer going into the fuselage just aft of the cockpit - and there is a BIG frigging hole there.

@@stinkyfungus it's always there, i 'm learning and dying a lot and i can't say how many times l've seen that hole.

A 30mm is 2.5 times bigger in area so the damage is a lot more from a 30mm hit for sure

But when you eject it's POTATO quality on the pilot

My man harnessed the power of the Maginot just to survive another burst of 20mm

This is totally like warthunder in most ammo belts.. you hit the other guys 100 times and they keep flying intact like nothing.. they fire randomly in your direction once and the first bullet will end you

He's probably felled every last ace like GS.

@@youramazingvulptexwife4180 GS≪There are pilots like you in every generation≫ GS≪And I DISRESPECTED every last one of them≫

After seeing this fight I genuinely would be convinced that this was indeed a reskinned A-10 and not a mirage

Probably because this is GS and as he said in the video he was winning because of his tactics and not because of his plane’s capabilities.

The damage models in DCS are very uneven, quite a few aircrafts in DCS have issues with it, particularly when it is gun/canon damage, hopefully it will be worked on.

@@SFDPSFDP Definately in the works, DM has been reworked for WWII already and still received refinement - after which ED will rework it on their modern planes and hopefully the 3rd parties will stay in formation with them...

@@SFDPSFDP The damage model in dcs is really quite good, especially in ww2 modules, where its the best available. Razbam has been saying for YEARS that they will eventually update the shitty damage model for the mirage, but they havent last time I checked. This is not dcs's fault, its razbam working on 10 different fucking aircraft with one programmer...

He had the deadringer, that's why he never died