F1 24 Car Handling - Here's Why It Sucks 

Thanks for watching guys! If you enjoyed, I would very much appreciate a sub, I know you don't need to any more with the RU-vid algorithm, but it does really help me to have more subs still ❤ Plus that 100k play button has been teasing me for ages 😂

thanks for being so critical, i feel its needed so EA can make it better, sugar-coating it isnt going to help anything

Everybody wave goodbye to the creator network early access next year

Bruh these 22,24 codemasters devs fucking suck at making good handling

Super happy that these larger creators are truly being un-biased and being critical towards the money hungry Devs

3:52 Tiametmarduk just had to sneak that "Gillon in the mud" in there 🤣

literally no rule changes between the real life 2023 and 2024 seasons and they managed to mess up the handling completely. It´s just like the changes from 2020s to 2021s handling: entirely unnecessary to make changes in the first place and then they just ended up making it worse for no reason at all. also how tf did they manage to make a handling design that feels like it was developed for game pads, result in game pads being so much slower than wheels?

3:53 Ben’s “Gillon in the mud.” at the end of his comment lmao

"The wet tires are just completely useless" At least it simulates reality.

5:18 "After he left, EA brought in most of the Project CARS handling team" lol. Yeah, that kill a game alright.

F1 23 started out with nice handling physics, so the geniuses at EA thought "let's change it!"

As Lewis Hamilton said at Hockenheim in 2019, “how’s it gone this bad?” 😂😭😭

we finally got the EA effect

Being critical is required, but the ‘unapologetic’ attitude you mentioned sounds exactly like the attitude that Slightly Mad Studios always had with the pCars games. Very much a ‘we’re right and you are wrong’ stance they always took with their games, especially pCars 3. What a shame, F1 23 was a great step forward for the series in terms of handling.

looks like a driving style like alonso in 2005/2006 is working now - in game

After 4 years I’m opting out the F1 series. I’ve moved to AC and the car handling is so much better and realistic.

Great video Alex, just saved me a bit of money 😅👍🏻 Glad to see how honest you are about it

No way they brought in Project Cars devs to do the handling... NOOOOOOOOOO!

Thanks for this video. I wanted to buy F1 24 but after this I think I'll wait for updates, if they don't fix the handling model I will keep playing F1 23 and hope for a better game in 2025.

I found the traction out of low speed corners to be like you're accelerating off a pool of oil (Beta Test)

In terms of the question about aggressively taking curbs. Def did see quite a few cars flying over the chicane curbs this past week. There was a very cool shot of Lewis with all 4 wheels off the ground.

What's worrying me is that the handling characteristics resemble their rally titles... Massive front grip, endless lateral grip, tank slappers left and right, no weight transfer that matters

From what I can see from the game play you're bang on in regards to the pointiness but if you can mitigate it via the wheel settings then its a good trade off for the suspension compression. I literally saw when you went neutral light floaty through parts of the corners. It was awesome

@AlexGillon thanks for the video, quick question does the ffb actually communicate through the wheel what the car is doing? Do you feel the car rotating, wheel spin and tire slip, lockups etc. or does it feel numb and disconnected like f1 22? Thanks!

I tried the beta, i drove on it for 10 minutes before getting off because the handling is terrible. Agree with Alex fully.

A few notes that I can say from my own Beta experience (without getting into too many details): - Ideal Brake Bias is back to 50-52% (yep, we're going THAT road again) - Engine Braking seems to work best at low levels (like 20%) otherwise it just starts giving unnecessary oversteer - Hotlap ERS is by design, uses more ERS because it gives the Energy system at max capped level, however it also recharges a lot... So you can use it for multiple laps straight - Overall grip seems somewhat unnatural (maybe too much at this point) - Tyre temperatures can be weird, especially in wet conditions Overall, I think I'll just try the game after summer to see whether they fixed/improved on things or not...

This is why i like Alex’s videos and subscribe, the honesty is fantastic. Thanks for being honest Alex, and in turn saving me 80 quid. Thank you and fantastic video as always

Thanks for being so honest. Feeling like I dodged a bullet here by not pre-ordering.

"this year the point is so sharp it is hard to drive" Verstappen: "Get good"

I have played on pad with no assists since 2015 and I can safely say the car felt remarkably unfun in the beta. The correlation between joystick and ingame wheel has never been as good as F1 23, it was the best handling on pad by far and was such a massive dissapointment to see this huge step backwards. It felt like I was playing a mobile game and didn't feel connected to the car at all.

I play on pad and havent really felt comfortable with the handling since f1 2020 so is there any way you could compare the handling on a pad from f1 24 to f1 2020? Very much appreciated if you can.

Hi Alex in the pit house setting do you use 100% force feedback for moza R9 ?

Thanks for not being a shill

The battery not depleting completely was already in the F123 game so I guess it won't be fixed. It was normal to finish a lap with 30/40% in this game. I don't think that will be a problem in 24 because we can now use overtake in qualifying laps to use whatever battery's left

I'm very glad that there's a technical review of the handling. I personally am happy that the handling isn't like F1 22 (which was what I was hearing from leaks) where I was sliding all over the place. The only thing that I am worried about is how pointy it is but I guess we have to compensate through setups if and when codies decide to update it

Crazy thing is, it’s not too much better on the pad. However, instead of front end troubles, the biggest issue is the back end constantly sliding out. This is the same issue as last game. By the way, what can I do via the setups to reduce the back end stepping out?

I subscribed because it is the detail of content that I would like! It mixes in-depth analysis with user reviews. It also gets the facts straight and behind the scenes work correctly.. I would like to see more of this. I’m definitely gonna go out my way to check out some of the other videos! F1 23 felt really nice on a pad. F1 24 looks like it will be more easy on a pad but might take a while to get used too.

2:58 This is probably the most realistic feature of otherwise very arcade game. Full wets have been useless for the past 2-3 years and there's a reason why drivers have complained about Pirelli wets

This is why I've stopped pre-ordering games unless it's a team I genuinely believe in & want to support

Can you post a link of your optimal settings that we could mimic as base set of settings?

Re: the new handling designer: I remember hating Project CARS' handling on both wheel and pad so that's not good news at all

Thanks for being so honest,this is a pass for me

Thank you for the honesty. Didnt know you played the game late last year, but if you were worried then, i gues they cant change much now. Fair play for giving your opinion, genuinely worried about the longevity of this years release.

Thank you for your honest impressions! Unfortunately, we live in a world where people don’t have the balls to say what they think and they will say anything for a quick buck. Liked and subscribed!

Using the curbs in Imola looks like gameplay from F1 2013 😭💀

Been playing the rss 2023 cars on Asseto Corsa and it just makes you truly realise how dogshit the cars are in the Ea f1 games, problem is the ai is so bad on AC that its basically just hotlap sim. I dont get how a mod team can make such a superior car to a group of professionals who have been making these games for aslong as they have.

Interesting regarding the wet Tires, as Lando Norris said that this time they nailed how difficult it is to drive with wet tires^^

What about the arcade camera veiw you use

Just watching the handling and sliding reminds me of F1 World Grand Prix on N64...

Didn't buy 23, will not be buying 24. I still watch F1 game content on RU-vid but I will be sticking to ACC myself. Thank you for an honest video, I respect that a lot.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but not only new handling system mad changes in the handling, but also the aerodynamics. They saw the changes to this year's cars in aerodynamics so they made them in the game too. It's just my opinion, but I could be wrong

The way you can turn the wheel agressively, understeer and then pick up instantly the grip reminds me of the Renault of 2005-06 with the Michelin tyres 😂

To play devil's advocate, I wonder what proportion of players use a pad? I suspect it's much more than we expect and, overall, maybe making a more pad friendly game could result in more sales and higher retention. I believe this is purely a move to appeal to more casual users and increase their total addressable market.

Massive respect for making this video, thanks Alex

2:35 in real life they were all flying over that curb, even more than demonstrated

Just come from jaros first take and he was trying to drive around the issues and be not to down on it glad you came out and stood up and they fix it for wheel users otherwise it will be the second game in 3 years i wait until its fixed or i find it second hand so i dont give codemasters or EA money its sad ive bought every f1 game on colsoles and even back to the amiga but since f1 22 i didnt get until i found it second hand and this year looks to be the same.

Also glad I wasn’t only who raised eyebrow that Casey used pad. David for 23 all year kept his Q&A open and discussed with everyone wanted from average padders like me to the 1%. Even addressed a few issues I brought up that pad player have. It’s a shame I think after good 23 handling. It would off been better to take small steps with handling changes. Giving himself another year to understand what playerbase like.

F1 2013 and F1 2020 handling were absolute peak. So going by that same rate well get another good handling game in 2027*

Now I see why soemone was taking a lot of curb around here on 23 because you can take all that curb in 24. That turn in speed on a controller is too fast and thats what I didn't like in 23.

3:56 The most important piece of F1 24 feedback is from Tiametmarduk: Gillon in the mud.

So 70 dollars for a game that adds 0 new features from the previous game AND the driving actually got worse? Imma stick to my F1 23.

Bring back David Greco

Ran into 2 bugs already. 1. Only dry tyre selection during wet quali, sprint and race 2. Somehow backed out of a quick practise loading screen. It hard locked my career safe. How they manage to f it up so bad when so little had to change.

How does it feel on the pad? Wheel is a small percentage of the players

If you have to spend an hour tweaking your wheel settings and then spend more hours making (unrealistic) setup changes at every single track just to make the car feel drivable, perhaps you should just save yourself $70 and not buy the game at all this year Im still on f1 2020 and have zero desire to buy the new ones

I preordered it a month ago, REALLY regretting that now, going to look for a refund. I have really enjoyed ACC and other simulation titles. This is not what I wanted to hear. Thank you Alex♥

Why is an analog stick/controller called a pad?

The older F1 games have never auto detected the turn rate of my wheel automatically, whereas every other sim does - i always had to reduce the rotation for F1 in the wheel software. Maybe its a case of setting wheel software to default rotation to offset the pointiness? Guess ill find out in a week 🤷🏻‍♂️

Alex Gillon knows more about F1-Car handling than Max Verstappen and Lando Norris. Impressive….

They copied F1 2011 handling and called it a day. Full lock steering is back! 🤣

I dont really play these games however if you can adjust the toe, I suggest using some toe in at the front to help reduce the initial turn in on corner entry.

Wait did he say it was similar to Project Cars? 2 or 3? Because while I only played 2 on a pad I thought the handling was great, I could literally feel myself hydroplane in the wet. Now I hear 3 was bad so if there was a difference that makes sense, or was 2 just bad on wheel? Or is Alex just assuming their similiar?

I’m not going to hate on the devs because I genuinely want them to make a good game, but I’m curious on where they got confused. Last year was the best handling we’ve ever had. Why did they go the opposite direction? Didn’t they say that they worked with F1 drivers this year? They worked with them last year too, if I’m right, and the results are somehow completely different!

With the resources of EA, Codemasters should be bringing in actual esports drivers and select content creators to design the handling models of these games. All we needed this year were subtle improvements on the model of last year with *actual fixes to gameplay features, UI, and menu interfaces* that improve the overall experience for the end users. Instead we have *checks notes* a few track cosmetic upgrades and a dog shit overhauled handling model? Cool. It's like the creative director of this game is some sort of half baked AI chat bot that has no connection to what the players of this franchise actually want. It's so fucking frustrating.

Had rotation at 310 degrees previously, sharp turning is fast.

Appreciate this review. This will save me money for the 1st month plus which means if it is that bad I can skip it or at the very least get it on a massive discount.

I think max helped with the handling this year and max is also a driver who loves a pointy frond end as Alex Albon said once in an podcast

This gives off f1 2011 vibes. What worries me is they just can't take criticism. Codemasters really should have stayed independent from the shit show of EA

When I first jumped onto f1 23 i was a lot slower than I was on f122 I was to used to that handling model that I couldn’t get it right on so I’m hoping when I get used to it it will definitely feel a lot better than it does look 🤞

OO TELL IT TO EM ALEX I tried an F2 race on silverstone in the wet and the dry. The dry felt like racing in the wet, and the the wet felt like driving on ice. Whenever I brake and turn I just spin out. Im an advanced casual player who uses both controller and wheel and my AI is set to 94 on F123. On F124 Idek where to begin.

I haven't bought an F1 game since 2013. No regrets

You've raced with me, talked with me about it, and I've said I quite like the handling model. And I'm on wheel. So, that's just not true that you haven't heard from a single person who likes it on wheel. Sure, its got some improvements needed, but from my own IRL driving experience on how tires behave, it feels better in that area. Suspension needs some tweaking along with kerbing, but tire grip and the simulation of the traction circle feels pretty solid

2:57 well at least the wet tires are more realistic now XD

I've been playing these games since 2010 on a pad, and whilst I'm clearly not Esports level, I've won races against wheel users. This news therefore is bittersweet - It sounds like the handling is "easier" for pad users than it used to be, so for things like solo career mode I'll make fewer mistakes etc, but it also sounds like it's ultimately not as quick as using a wheel. In fairness: If gamepads were ever 'as good' as a wheel then you'd see at least some Esports users using one. But that's not the case. One thing I note you *did* fail to mention is that a more arcade-y handling model is likely to make the game more accessible to new players who haven't played a lot of racing games. There have been versions of the F1 game in years gone by that have been almost unplayable on a pad. So at least there's that. In any case: Can't say the news disappoints me.

For me its my favourite handling ever. Its the most unrealistic and arcade handling i have ever seen. But i enjoy it xdd

Handling might be bad but its wierd that someone like Lando Norris says that the handling is more realistic. so claiming driving feels more unrealistic seems wrong maybe its the driving styles that needs to be changed not the handling? Edit: even Charles Leclerc confirmed its more realistic on a live stream

I feel like an f1 game being a simcade isnt actually a bad thing. Controller and wheel users both having an enjoyable experience. Im hoping though that some of this gets fixed because its f1's official game so it should be fairly realistic especially when it comes to having setups that wont work everywhere. There should be a tradeoff between cornering grip and straight line speed. You should understeer when steering to fast and scrubing the tires and only be able to fix it by letting go of the throttle, on wheel and pad. The only upside for me, is if I'm in a league with mostly pad players, I'll have seemingly a massive advantage but I'd rather have to work for a win rather be gifted it.

I'm glad camber and toe settings are different gets a bit boring having then almost the same year after year

have you ever driven a real f1 car ?

Its feels like a Arcade Game, with no more trail braking, just power in, and around all corners, use the throttle to rotate

Thanks for the honest review mate

I have F123, looks like ill be staying with it for another year!

Whats the red bar on the display?

Does it have PSVR2 for PS5?

Haven’t played this, but I’m laughing at the glitchy front end

Just played and it feels like my wheel has had its rotation cut down by 80%. Feels really tight and when I counter steer from a snap it INSTANTLY gains grip and send in the counter direction. Like wut!?😂

How is the curb riding like that? They even say the suspension is improved. Like what?

3:00 when was the last time you saw the cars used wet tires?

Iam on the 1.3 patch and I love the handling. Far improved from previous seasons, atleast for controllers. Though I have a ton of other issues with the game though.

1:43 Look at how he dances