FA-18C Hornet: Airfield TACAN IFR Fog Landing Tutorial | DCS WORLD 

how ?

@@MrMulkerrins f12 button, then f5, then f1.

ATC tower has a rotating beacon, also VASI, and QTE/QDM support from ATC R/T. It's always better to utilise all aids at your disposal.

Runway radials are in your kneeboard cap! Just so you don’t have to draw a line 😊

"Pre-historic ADF" xD

Cap often drops a Gem out of nowhere.

thx

thx

@@grimreapers OMG the real Grim Reaper

It doesnt say it anywhere there on the page of the airport on the kneeboard

@@rama7267 You are refering to the angle of approach or the comms?

@ the angle of approach for the airports

Says the guy that can't spell localizer

Did u even watch the video nick?

When I type in the coordinates for the waypoint it always ends up either too far left of the runway or too far right. It’s never where I put the coordinates in for. I’ve double checked everything I did and can’t seem to find the reason. Any help?

Completely agreed. I have learned a LOT since making this. Will re-do when I get a minute.

Yes I agree with you, but Im just trying to keep it super simple for ppl

@@grimreapers ok, understood! No pun intended! :)

@@grimreapers Very good video! As always. But using the radar altimeter isn't a good idea at all as you're assuming a dead flat ground profile along your approach, wich almost never occours above land.

Trial an error lol

Go to www.skyvector.com , this website provides aeronautical sectionals which include lines of magnetic variation. Find the airport you’ll be landing at and locate the closest line of magnetic variation. If the variation is East you subtract from your true heading and if it is Westerly variation you will add. For example if the runway was on a heading of 194 with a magnetic variation of 8 degrees east In the region your magnetic heading will be 186. Magnetic variation changes from time to time as the earths molten core shifts around but it should be accurate enough for what’s modeled in DCS.

In the Aerodrom Legend page of the kneeboard - bottom right

@@xRays6 in addition to this, in order to calc what your true or compass course would be, there is a pneumonic to help “Variation East, Compass Least. Variation West, Compass best” in simple terms, If the variation is easy your compass will have the “least” or the smaller reading” if variation is west, compass will have the higher reading. Hope this helps!

How would you do it?

That's actually a super cool idea.

@@grimreapers I tried it out on a VFR landing last night as i wasn't sure if the target box would stay on the HUD with the gear down, but it does so it should work a treat in IMC!

thx

I've never heard of this, any had this course line problem??

@@grimreapers Managed to figure it out. Not sure if it's a bug or not but this is what I did... I turned off D/L, turned TCN off then on again, added the CSEL and did a 360 to begin intercept. I then scaled HSI to 160 and back to 5 and that 'reset' my problem and it now works...

Everything for me is standard BUT remember that there are controls on the screen to change brightness, contrast etc.

I know this is a year old but new hornet Drivers may find this. I completely lower my brightness nearly all the way and completely lower the contrast to 1, as well as putting THE MPCD into night mode. Very easy to read after that

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@@ghostviggen , I thought we talked about this, Deep Thought?

Just google it, general non-aviation knowledge.

"magnetic variation"

@@grimreapers thank you for your answer ! and for your help :)

And it is a TACAN approach.

@@luisrdm1 y por que le llaman ILS cuando quieren decir TACAN?

@@CrazyShadowist También no he comprendido el título. Me parece que fue para llamar la atención de la gente, porque el avión no tiene ILS.

@@luisrdm1 exacto, pensé en algún update pero nada...mi gozo en un pozo

The hornet does not have a native land based ILS system. it only has ICLS (Instrument Carrier Landing System) both IRL and in game. so this is the closest you can get to ILS on airfields without modding. Its a guide to building a makeshift ILS on the fly.

Pg is like +14 I heard? weird

@@grimreapers Magnetic variation varies by location. This is because magnetic north pole is not in the same place as true north. Aviation charts and approach charts show the local mag variation. To work out weather to subtract or add the variation remember "West is best" East is least" i.e. 5degW magnetic variation you add 5deg to true to get magnetic course and vice versa for east. Also not a great idea to use the radio altimeter for an approach as it only tells you your altitude above the ground directly below the aircraft, not above the airfield. So if you are flying over uneven terrain its goes all over the place. You should fly it on barometric alt using the QFE setting which will give you your height above the field. Or use QNH and the add the airport elevation to all your heights, i.e. if field elev is 300ft @ 10miles you should be 3000ft + 300ft = 3300ft, 5miles 1500ft + 300ft=1800ft etc. Also don't forget that the Tacan was is the middle of the field so you need to account for that when doing your distance height calculations

The G-M Angle actually changes with time, which I doubt is modeled in DCS. The short answer is to google the "magnetic declination" or "magnetic variation" for an area... Cairo, Egypt for example. You don't always subtract. It depends where on the planet in question.

the real F-18 doesn't have an ILS. It only has ICLS.

@@Destarn Wow. The Cessna 152 I learned to fly in had an ILS how is it possible that they didn't put one into a $70 MILLION fighter? The advice in this video is a good way to create a CFIT event, and if operating under FAA regs, is very illegal. And stupid, what if there's a big ass hill in between you and the airport?

​@@kevykevTPA They didn't put it because it didn't need it. Also legacy Hornet is "only" $40 ;). It was supposed to operate from carriers, an aircraft deployed on a carrier will pretty much never be landing on an airfield, except outside of deployments. And yes, grim reaper tutorials aren't great by any means, I've seen them charge for teaching CASE I patterns that put you in a position of having to exceed 2000 ft/min to even hit the deck. Not ideal of course ;) Legacy Hornets fielded by Canada or Switzerland on the other hand were equipped with ILS compatible with land infrastructure as neither used their jets on carriers. Though, in DCS we tend to land our Hornets on airfields quite a lot, thought pretty much no servers or campaigns force us to do that in IMC but if needed we have several ways of checking whether our approach may be abruptly ended by a hill that suddenly appeared in front. Firstly the F10 map, but since that isn't always available we have our trustworthy HSI moving map. You can see the airfields there no problem. The plane also has a terrain database saved so where ever you designate with the A/G radar, HMD/HUD/TPOD/Whatever else, it will tell you the altitude of that point ASL. On the A/G radar it's easy to tell when there's a big terrain mass in front of you as there will be a "shadow" on the radar display. You can also set the scan up high so it only starts "seeing" and displaying terrain only when it gets within 1000 ish feet below you.

@@Destarn Thanks. I'm a noob at this, and one of the things I really have no idea how to use is the ground radar, but in a RL situation, an actually qualified pilot could probably use that and possibly other systems to perform IMC landings in ways I can't even imagine. But being a RL instrument rated private pilot (though sadly retired due to disability), my kneejerk response to this is basically what I said. HOW IN THE F CAN YOU FIELD A MODERN COMBAT JET THAT IS EFFECTIVELY GROUNDED IF IT"S LAND BASED AND THE WEATHER IS A LITTLE IFFY???????? Adding ILS capability to the plane is trivial both technically as well as financially. I can't imagine any of the civilians involved with approving the b1rd was a pilot, because had I been the CNO or SECDEF or anything like that, I would NEVER have let that oversight happen. Not that I'm ever going to be either of those things, just an observation. It's primarily carrier based, yes, but the keyword there is primarily. But since at least some IRL have it, 'twould be nice if ED would add it as an option, anyway. That said, I'm completely gobsmacked how amazing this sim, and this plane, actually are. Back in the day, I bought and used basically every combat flight sim ever made, including Falcon 4.0, but somehow I had no idea this even existed until a few months ago, and I didn't really start making any real effort until a few weeks ago. Simply put, it's what I've always wanted. As soon as the Viper goes on sale I'm grabbing that, and I'm hoping someone will pull a study level F35 out of their hat, too. Though that may be almost too easy, once you learn to fly it anyway. "You don't scare me, Russian SAMs, because you can't see me! Neener, neener."

@@kevykevTPA I wouldn't get my hopes up on a study level F35 in the next decade at least as much as I'd love that. And ED are simulating a specific variant, USN Hornet from around 2008, the Lot 20. Those didn't have land based ILS capability so they won't add it. And Viper is a cool little plane, definitely recommend it!

remember that Tacan station is offest from the runway buy few hundred feet.

@@grimreapers Is this just something we have to live with in the hornet then? follow the TACAN radial until we can get visual on the runway when exiting the clouds? Then correct. Cheers.

@@grimreapers surely there has to be a more accurate and reliable method than this? In extreme fog and weather conditions, missing the runway by a few hundred feet is quite a large margin of error and can cause the pilot to have to perform multiple go-arounds which might not be affordable in a low-fuel situation?

Cause people dont like the fact reapers aren't the serious bunch they think we should be. We are casual Sim pilots who put having a laugh with buddies before IRL procedures. I agree we could do a lot of thing smarter and cleaner than we do but thats just not our scene. The hornet EA video's got Reee'd all over on hoggit etc. And thus the F-14 has yet to materialise. Heatblur have stated however they are doing preview copies in waves. so once the Seriousbois have had thier fun you might get to see cap's take. if not then there'll be plenty of action after release.

I’ve bought modules purely because cap has them, and I’ve seen what they’re like in a reapers long mission and I know he’s got a controls video etc. Cap might be a bit casual and not one of the anal retentive lot, though he’s definitely done more toward making DCS accessible. The formation stuff the reapers do, would show off the F14 in a very good light too.

@@exiletsj2570 GR is what got me into DCS at all to begin with. Came across one video by chance and was entertained enough that I subscribed, then got tempted to try for myself and now I own a couple modules and maps.

@James When people get yelled at, repeatedly, (and AFAIR named, in public video) for doing something correctly, it goes beyond not being serious, deep into Crin Greapers territory. I'm the type to optimize my performance autistically quickly, so I'd probably be frustrated actually playing with CG. Suitably, I'm hanging out in the youtube comments rather than the GR discord. That said, I firmly believe GR has an important place in the ecosystem - well produced videos drawing new people into the community is nothing to be scoffed at. And it IS entertaining to watch nearly all of the time. And the whole "if cap can do it, everybody can" tutorials, beyond occasional funny, builds newbies' confidence. As a member of the dcs community, I recognize GR is a great thing for said community.

@@brycechetwynd4932 We take very little seriously :'D we have our own SOP's to follow sure but they are extremely casual. its always a good sign for a community when a group cant just fly for the hell of it without upseting people.

Hitting pause while en route is pretty handy as well irl.

True to Mag = minus (Cauc and PG)

Two years late but you have to select ruler on the F10 map

yes

And how are it makes the real pilot

You must have?!?! it's at the top.

I could not get that to work?

Completely different receivers, the frequencies/channels are mapped for convenience only.

IFR on airfield without tacan? not possible as far as I know in Hornet

@@grimreapers I'm a total newbie at this. You mentioned other ways to find the runway, I was just curious if there was a way to land on runways without tacan at all.

Kneeboard + waypoint designate (for anyone who still has this question.)

flared landing's are common in Air Force's who have Hornets

For RL approach/landing procedures just check out the official NATOPS F-18 manuals here: info.publicintelligence.net/F18-ABCD-000.pdf You can find approach/landing procedures under part III normal procedures on page 333 of the PDF. publicintelligence.net/u-s-navy-f-18-natops-flight-manuals/

If you're over 34k total weight (plane+fuel+weapons) you SHALL flare, or else dump weight. The reason USN like the controlled crash even on runways is that it keeps the carrier landing skills fresh.

@Ean Bezemer - I don't think so but you're actually in a semi-flare attitude when landing anyway, if you're 'on speed'. Your Hornet should already be at an approximately 8° nose-high attitude. Add a touch of throttle once over the runway threshold to slow the descent rate and you'll make a nice soft landing, which nearly every terra firma bound pilot strives for. No reason to punish the airframe slamming it onto the runway with all that extra room and no arresting wires to worry about.

Jimbo in Thailand By pulling back on the stick before landing you can cause a stall and gear damage. Just follow NATOPS

LOL oops. I meant "they"

That's right! er.. They has a name you know!

Luckily Betty is from a generation which didn't know they had gender identities and that they should be offended if somebody assumed otherwise based on visual cues. I miss those days...

@Cole Lee Aerial runways are+-5 degree and they allready are map directions lol. just need fly -6degree,but why not write maps -6 when compass say so lol.. if day would be 1,002 faster year would be 365 day exactly we would not need leap year if day is 23,934 then why second minutes and hour not match so year would be correct lol.but hey if mile not actually mile. it is 0,998 LOL

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