@@Can_think_of_a_name nah there’s gotta be some type of copyright involved how many groups with similar names do u actually see? It totally makes sense too not want a group too have the same name maybe it was just the video but everyone looked like they’re were being chill ab it just asking them too change the name
@@xiayu6098 They'd have GFriend copyrighted not Girlfriend because that's not their name. Mamamoo and Sonamoo are the first examples of groups with similar names that popped into my head, there's quite a few
As someone who has a twt Stan acc, I am so shocked to see literally every fandom fighting with each other. There's literally fanwars every day. It's so different from the western artist Stan accs (I used to be on the directioner side of Stan twt till last year). K-pop stans on twitter will not let another group,they don't ult, breathe. Unnecessarily hating groups and idols is so normalised, it's low-key concerning.
As someone who has only been on stan twitter for about a month, I think it's extremely weird how any interaction between artists is seen as negative. It's even weirder when people will bring up another group when it has nothing to do with what the topic of discussion was, or even use someone else's success to bring down other artists :/ I'm someone who wants to show support to as many groups as possible and I hate to see people fighting for no reason
honestly this was a good way to expose how dumb kpop stans can be hating on groups or stanning them with literally no content but i do feel bad for purple beck being caught up in that
The thing that I find most frustrating about Twitter isn't the random fights between other fandoms or the mean tweets towards the groups I stan but it's the disappointment and sometimes disgust I feel about the main fandoms I'm a part of. There's nothing worse than sometimes feeling that you're part of a toxic fandom but then of course I get off Twitter and realize what a vacuum it really is and that it's just where the vocal minority live. I try to go on there as little as possible
that whole entire account scandal really shows two things kpop stans do .. 1) kpop stans will hate on anyone or anything for the littlest things and 2) kpop stans will stan anyone who’s korean and people making fan accounts despite them not even debuting yet
And this is why I try to stay off social media even though I like kpop as a genre of music. Because stan social media can be very toxic AF especially when it comes to unproven rumors, etc. This is why I'm just a casual listener of kpop
I remember the 6irlfriend/6irly thing I think about it frequently. I had multiple mutuals prepared to stan and I even felt bad about them having to change their name. but I knew something was fishy when they started posting member profiles and they were giving all this extra info and using selfies instead of proper pics. was a very funny day on my timeline when it all came crashing down and they changed info a nugu promoter account
I agree with you. An idol has really good vocals, rap, or dance skills and they suddenly start calling them "god". Like as if when they were born they popped out doing contemporary, modern, jazz dance. The idols literally have to train for it, its bizarre.
you'd be surprised how fast kpop stans stan every new rookie group I remember when ive members were being introduced everyone and their mother started making update account for liz and leeseo who they didn't even know like at all, I know it's funny but the part where those same stans drop these rookie groups after two comebacks to stan another fresh rookie group, not so much
Most of the Kpop fans even haters jump into conclusion and there is every day a different news from kpop this is quite interesting TBH. I don't know how you manage to put all the important information about kpop in a video everyday and work really hard on your videos just to make sure that we know the news tnx fr an amazing video Again. ByEeeeeee
You missed " pluz girls " they had large amounts in RU-vid by saying they are hybes new girl group after lessarafirm debuted it suddenly disappeared and all their videos were taken down😬🤯
Bro fr tho, at first I believed it😭but then I saw they had like trailers for the group or something and they used a scene from everglows first mv and a black widow scene from iron man 2 so I was like, 🤨 yeah there’s no way this is real
@@hellod2949 and they uploaded videos like choosing trainees like for real what they are even thinking they uploaded trailers of their so called debut song 💔
Lol I never actually believed that... I also saw a YG girl group too. That must be fake too because the quality of the video is very bad... I also saw a JYP girl group (Nmixx)... But the videos were real. But I think it's fake. So weird that they have the dance practice video
It makes me laugh how I used to get made fun of for liking kpop before it was popular and blew up massive in the US (because of new gen groups like BTS and BlackPink). Personally I grew up with groups like SHINee, 2Ne1, 2pm, SNSD, BigBang, Sistar, and SUPER JUNIOR. Kpop back then used to be fun/carefree, made you feel warm when listening to its, and fandoms used to get along. Kpop today has become so generic and toxic with the music all sounding the same (more autotune and mainly hiphop with bland lyrics) and people bandwagoning onto the genre and ridiculously arguing over which group is better and sending death threats to each others. It’s really made me veer away from kpop because it’s not what it used to be and the communities are no longer the same. Shame.
I think you can still find people that are just there to enjoy everything. The industry itself is toxic towards idols and started to get backlash for mistreatment just few years ago. I think this made a bigger tension in the community as a whole. As a group we're discovering what's right, wrong and what is just morally grey. I got into kpop about the same time that you did. There are just too many rookie groups debuting every year, you can't say it all sounds the same cause that's just untrue. What gets famous and continues on is another story. It's called "pop" for a reason. There's a formula and people like to know what to expect.
Yes back then it was so fun when all of your fans gathered outside your own house and not leaving until you came out, not giving a shit about your own priority when you are out in public , doing bizzare things like attempting to kidnap you just because they like you. Yeah things were really fun that time 😊
@@ChaosTsuki I agree, it's literally same in every generation in celebrity industry,tbh it more safe now as you are more protected than before except social media but you are prone to have more danger in social media. Every coin has two sides as we all do , back then things were less addressed and mental problems were ignored or else you would creep out how much bizzare things 1 and 2 nd Gen idols had gone through . Things like these wouldn't change unless all the people start thinking logically and considering how their actions would affect another person but many people ignore this by using evergreen excuse of they are celebrity ,they have to go through it. Tbh staying away from Twitter has saved from me from having dramas and toxic people.
@@lovelybharat5825 you mean like how the fans today are now jumping new generation idols in airports and acting like those idols are their property (aka: that dude Felix from Stray Kids getting mauled by female fans). Ahhh, yes. Things have definitely gotten better and are sooooo much safer today.🙃
@@unfiltered8407 it is safer now, just not safe enough yet. The Kpop industry is very toxic and full of issues. 1st&2nd gen of kpop had big physical fights, openly liking more than one kpop group was rare and sort of discouraged bc ppl would accuse you of not being loyal and attack you for it. But at the same time, those who liked kpop in countries where it wasnt common to, often seemed to band together in the fact that they both like this thing that no one else around them gets, which is a feeling that is pretty much completely lost now. Besides that you got apps like twitter now, that are full of toxic ppl abusing the anonymity the internet gives them and seasangs that are still and might forever be a thing
This may just be me, but when I first got into Kpop, back in the early 2010s, I didn't notice as much drama online as I see now. I mean, I could be wrong since I stopped using twitter around the same time, and Instagram and Facebook soon after, but honestly I don't remember a time when fans were as ruthless and brutal as they are now. Like, there were fans who were rude and whatnot towards other groups and fandoms but, if I'm remembering correctly, they were never as mean as they are now. I never understood why some people would decide that sending hate to groups or fans instead of just ignoring them. If you don't like someone you don't obsess over them and talk horrible things about them, you move on with your life and support who you want to support. I swear some haters obsess over groups and fandoms they hate to the point where honestly others could honestly confuse them as fans. For example, is someone who says they hate BTS but know everything about them and watch their vlives and whatnot and know their tour schedules and basically everything about them, really a hater or do they just hate that they are actually fans and really like them? Like I've been a huge fan of Shinee for many many years but I'm still finding out new things about them.
@@Jess-737 I knew about BoA early on too but I never really listened to the point where I could call myself a fan. Like I liked her too, but I didn't think it would have been appropriate for me to call myself a fan since I didn't actively seek her music out. I really got into kpop after Shinee debuted. I remember there were some toxic fans, mainly the ones who would send nasty horrible gifts [like letters written in period blood, or tainted drinks that could be deadly] but it was super rare and they often got dealt with quickly. Nowadays it's like 10 times worse and whole ass groups of people being toxic. I also really hate the energy in a lot of kpop communities too where fans become toxic towards others who aren't really fans of the same groups. I also hate that people don't really let artists be themselves and have a life. Like you constantly see/hear people calling idols fat or too skinny, and if they're seen with anyone of the opposite gender nasty rumours spread, or just stupid bs like that. It's like they feel as if they own these idols and sometimes I just want to smack those "fans".
I tried to get into SNSD fandom in 2006, but quickly took my exit after I realized don't have time for all the fandom dramas lol. it only took me a few tweets hahaha
I am a Buddy (Gfriend stan, as they call it) and I remember the day 6irly was announced. It looked legit honestly but I didn't hv any judgement or anything. My problem is how can someone "stan" a group that hasn't even shown the members yet or simply, to debut? That's what baffles me. Having the a similar name does trigger some bc I mean it dmgs the unique rep (bc we already had problems with other things. Eg- SourceMusic)
I hate fights! Especially fandom fights! Cant we all just put our pride, hate, and differences aside?! Im sick of it! My greatest wish is for all of us fandoms be friends and respect one another. Just as kpop idols and bands respect each other
i miss 2008 when kpop was still a niche thing and people were happy just discovering kpop and secretly stanning their fave kpop group(s). But then 2012-13 onward the crazy stans ruined everything. And kpop became saturated with new groups like every other week.
if something becomes popular, it also attracts bad energy. since kpop became even more popular, it attracts toxic people that are not needed. also, with the growing popularity of kpop, some companies do not care anymore if they make their idols sing luckluster songs as long as the idols are popular, the bad songs will be loved regardless.
It sucks that i searched up GFRIEND songs coz i miss them and one of the results was this video and instead of feeling sad/happy (i dont even know how i should feel everytime i listen to their songs) i now feel the need to defend BUDDIES ahhhh Why is life like this😭😭😭 I really want to reply to some comments but ahh i wanna cry
I kept telling people it's stupid to stan a group that has never debuted yet, THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE WHY! How can you stan a group you don't know and don't know the music of??? Like i thought we're here for the music so why yall stanning groups that haven't even released music??? Also, YES YES 100% YES, kpop stans especially those in twitter will jump to conclusions so fast it's ridiculous, especially if it's a group they don't like. The amount of crazy fake news that comes from antis are too many to count. They will also tear down groups they don't like just because they don't like them. This reminds me of what happened with stray kids in their US tour, people were sending death threats so bad that the FBI themselves needed to step up! Kpop stans are sick in the head! There are a lot more issues but this is the first toxic thing i remember.
I think we need to realize that idols are human too, and fans are human too it’s in the companies names “Entertainment” it’s not that hard to understand
I remember 6irly!! I wasn't listening to kpop when that happened and i also don't use Twitter, but i still heard about it somehow! Good to know at least one of these groups was real lol
Twitter kpop stan behavior is so dangerous that they carry over their reactionary behavior to other spheres of the internet and act that way toward other topics. It’s really scary seeing the kind of stuff they start believing.
What I don't like, is that alot of k-stans will attack the GROUP for something instead of attacking the COMPANY that they are contdacted under. Most groups have no control over their clothes, or hair or even makeup, that's all the stylists job. Groups that aren't more self-composing like Seventeen or Stray kids don't have control over their songs or the choregrophy they are given. They may have little say, but it usually is little. The CEO is the one who names groups usually as well. It just bothers me to see Idols get backlash for stuff that they really have no control over.
I can claim that I stan several groups, but if I have a problem, I deal with those people personally instead if starting or being involved in a fan war. Remember that there are no martyrs in fan wars.
This show us that kpop stans (especially on twitter) are ready to hate for the most innocent things. It's like when they're attacking groups when they use a similar outfits, haircolr or aesthetic as other groups. Like kpop stans twt really need to stop gatekeeping everything, like it's not that deep. Plus, with all the creation of fab accounts, we may wonder if fans are their for talent/music or only for visual. Because how can you create a fan account without knowing any talents/abilities of the idol ? You don't even know what the idol is capable of :/.... And it's not only with fake groups. We see this we new groups too, with fan accounts getting created after teaser pictures have been revealed to the public. Like for trainees who were known before (ex smrookies, trainees from survival show or trainees who got videos available on internet like Shotaro, AleXa etc...) I understand why fans expect their debut because we know what they are capable of, but when you only got a pretty pictures what are you stanning ? Their visuals ? Like kpop should be about fun and music but fan love to make it toxic af by hating on idols, only caring about record and starting fanwars on every occasions possible :/ The hate is everywhere on social media but for twitter the bar is in hell.
@@kimanid.929 for me the ones shown in the video werent bad tho None were attacking the "girls" and were just trying to defend gfriend's name The people who are answering back to buddies were the ones that made buddies look bad... Wth is "and i thought buddies were nice" Like they would like it if that happens to their fave group (this phrase is so overused and idc cause it has a point)
LMAO, this reminded my own reaction when GWSN debuted. I was like, why the fuck is their name similar to WJSN 💀 Many people actually were confused who's who between the two of them 😭
Yess Kpop fans jump to conclusions very fast and not just this but what happened with Sorn of CLC is the biggest example. How they without their own research attacked her saying she's offering skin whitening to Ali(character of Squid Game).....
One thing I HATE about toxic kpop Stan’s is that they always say stuff like “well you don’t know / Stan ___ group so you don’t know how we feel” etc. and use that as an excuse to just be toxic.
I just want to point out that the action of buddies were justified on this. Naming the group 6irlfriend is unfair practice. It causes confusion to the group Gfriend. Even the copyright in Korea mentioned that copyrighting a name close to the name of an already existing popular group will not be permitted in law (not verbatim). This is in reference to SouMu’s claims on copyright of Gfriend’s name. The most I would agree is people creating fake account to support unknown members of that group. But calling buddies’ action and call for a takedown or change in name should not be viewed as toxic. The example given was not even a toxic comment at all. Just saying. Now if there were toxic comments from buddies then, I don’t know. I’m only b reacting b to the example in this video.
This channel is so poorly written and researched lmao. When she said “last time I checked, it’s not a crime” I said, “it is if the name is copyrighted.”
Similar names can be a blessing and a curse. I remember people complained because they mistook 2eyes as twice in an off-air show. 2eyes debuted first but twice is more famous. I think is not that THAT hard to fake a new group, most of the group with small company has not so good graphic anyway so;;
What makes it both hilarious and sad is that kpop stans still haven't learned their lesson. Til this day they continue to jump to conclusions and blindly follow the crowd without thinking.
Another reason Lion Girls was so believable was because Topp Dogg (Hunus previous boygroup at that time) had White Lion character as their group mascott. And some of Topp Dogg's fan just thought it's to shape some sort of relations between brother-sister groups. But know that i think about it again, i feel so stupid for believing that lol
The only reason they stanned a group where the info on the members were very limited, is cos they wanted to be the "firsts", so that they can show off and gatekeep about being there when the group first appeared. It's pathetic and cringy af lmao
1:42 - 1:49 I have to disagree because it's a crime and illegal (but I don't want to be seen as rude/hater or anything as such). Let me explain... Having a same or even similar name (or alike like logo) to an already established brand is illegal in most (if not, all) territories around the world because of copyright and especially trademarks. That's why you will not *probably* see SM Entertainment branching out to the Philippines because they already have SM Prime. Also, that's why you see brands that are the same but are called differently across the world like Tide, that chocolate bar (forgot what it's called), Selecta, etc. m.ru-vid.com?search_query=brands+that+are+called+different+in+other+countries ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_XpXsVj8uHQ.html Remember the Red Velvet issue, where there was also a band from this country where their name is the same and got requested RV (kpop) to either change their name or not promote in that country at all? That's all happened because of trademark and copyright. (Spoiler alert: they came to the conclusion of letting each other promote under the same name) edit: broken down into more paragraphs for ease of reading and ungrammatical sentences correction. links references.
Actually you can't trademark really generic words ...and GFRIEND is a really generic name ( especially in korean the name legitimately means girlfriend so you can't trademark that ). While you can trademark logos ( bts did it for their one, SVT i think did it for their one too) , you have to trademark it in its entirety...if a part of your logo is a really generic thing like a heart that means the heart itself wont't be protected under copyright law and other groups can use it legally. That's why for example Kim Kardashian could not copyright the word KIMONO for her brand and Kylie Jenner could not copyright KYLIE . Also the thing with "It's the same name then it's copyright issue " is in most cases straight up bs caused by people not understanding the law. First of all, the trademark is protected in the country/ countries you fill the trademark for (there are exceptions for huge brands such as cocoa cola). So two local brands with the same name can be protected under trademark laws in their own countries. There's also the thing of the trademark being filled for specific industries. In your example Red Velvet can be used by both the group and the other company without issue because they belong to different industries (also Red Velvet as a name is not falling under a possible copyright claim since it is a very generic one).
@@blueiepureesteluca yes you can trademark it if and only if the word is associated with the brand. however you can't if you are trying to have a copyrights over it.
I will never understand why pre-debut fans even exist tbh. I still remember back in 2019 when Yeonjun was the first TXT member to be shown, there were SO MANY armys who turned their fanpages for BTS into TXT fanpages. Like they didn‘t even know how they sing, if they perform well, if they will even like the debut song??? Is it really that hard to just wait until a group debuts? K-pop stans get mad when others say that we are stupid and believe everything but in the end it‘s kinda true. The k-pop fandom have become a really toxic place at this point and it makes me sad. I‘m an army/kpop stan from 2017 and 2018/19 was definitely the best 2 years. If anyone has a different or same opinion then don‘t hesitate to reply to me! :)
@@bananasareblue5619 u sure? Bc everywhere I see about Gfriends fandom is that they are one of the toxic fandoms… but idk that’s just what I’ve been seeing everywhere.. so maybe they are a peaceful fandom just maybe I’ve been on the other side of social media 🤷♀️
@@Enhypenmeencanta oh well i guess yes(?) Some did start saying that after GFRIEND'S disbandment, sadly But definitely before that, buddies were known as one of the most peaceful fandoms
@@Enhypenmeencanta oh and if youre curious why A lot of buddies were just lashing out on anywhere, especially on source music's stuff and GFRIEND'S channel(this one was more sad tho) after their sudden disbandment It got worse after source music announced that they'll be debuting a new girl group when they haven't even released a statement about GFRIEND'S disbandment and the fact that the new gg was also 6 members and that they debuted on GFRIEND'S month of disbandment There are more reasons for others but i didnt do any of those, i just kept my anger, sadness, annoyance, etc. with myself and just kept promoting the members in their own paths
Kpop stans will literally stan anything. So odd. I could never stan a group unless I really love their music and I just find it so strange when they literally stan a group where they don't know what the members even sound like
Omg its too much if they want to promote small groups they should use other ways to spread these small groups not trolling us and using this method bcz of them other geoups staet fighting i really hope these kinds of things not happen again bcz they just going waste everyone time
Honeslty this is why im always cautious and try to do research and keep up with any updates that's outside from k-news media like soompi and allkpop and i check on other social medias for anymore socials that connect to new kpop groups that are coming to see if it's any more legit. If they're located on only one social media i keep my eye on it for sometime before confirming if it's real or not. Plus news from the company is rather helpful to confirm new groups too
I always found this part of kpop fandoms so odd to me and still never understand it. People are so quick to hardcore stan and defend people who haven't even been on the scene yet, who haven't spoken or sang a single song, but they already pick their favorite and decide no matter what, they will stan. I don't twitter so i didn't see the gfriend mess, but funnily enough despite becoming a buddy, one of my first encounters with the fandom was also negative for a similar reason with another girl group, but generally they were and are a nice fandom. I don't understand why its so hard to just, relax and be more casual with liking new groups and getting to know them and understanding these relationships are parasocial and can't be taken seriously, it makes it way more fun? That way things don't turn out like theses situations.
:0 i’m the sophi in the video!! (@95zers) my layout is so unserious compared to the tone of the video LOL thanks for including it i need to promote my girls: PURPLEBECK IS STILL ALIVE AND HANGING ON BY A THREAD. THEY ARE REAL. i still cant believe people thought they were fake like seoul is a city and cities have tall buildings did people really think a 7/11 took up a whole building?? 😭 still pissed about that. i actually wrote that pr statement for pb too! ALSO. i want to also mention, in case anyone gets “inspired” by this video and wants to create a fake group: don’t! lion girls was a thing back in 2016 so many people probably weren’t there but it harmed elris (now alice) ‘s debut because people thought they were trolling again :( (they debuted under hunus entertainment) let’s leave this joke in the past!!!! thanks for reading 🫂
This reminds me of plus girlz from hybe which i believed at first but later i figured out it was fake and there were many fans who had already started to stan that group so its hard to believe what is real and what is fake
Just goes to show people in these fan culture had no life of their own... ALL they do is searching up their biased's updates and talking shit to those they think will harm their biased... Sometimes it gets me wondering do these people even have a proper work and goes to school??
