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FALCONRY: Why you shouldn’t get an eagle to fly! 

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After posting a video to social media two eagle falconers suggested I should make a video to discuss why people shouldn’t get these birds without a lot more thought and experience , as well as the problems that can occur and how to address them! It’s turned into a ramble despite some heavy editing and a true problems and fixes video will have to wait !
Golden eagle falconry or indeed all
Eagle falconry is different due to these birds behaviour , mental state , size and power and it takes a lot of time and planning and experience for it to work out well

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@shannonspage9360
@shannonspage9360 8 месяцев назад
I live in New York state their falconry license allows for all eagles, hawks, falcons, and owls...except for bald eagles and golden eagles.
@alfiewhippet.
@alfiewhippet. 4 месяца назад
That was a great Video. In the mid 2000's I hunted with a Male GoldiexSteppe, after 4 seasons I just couldn't do another. Each season I was travelling 13-18,000 miles in my car, I already had back and shoulder issues before i agreed to take him on (he was 2 years old), he had many behavioural issues, many of which were solved simply by bowl feeding, and just not interacting with him in a way he was used to. He was freelofted by his previous owner, and used to do daft things like charging the door, as you were entering. He definitely thought he was the boss at the start of our relationship, but we managed to work through much of his daftness, and formed a decent relationship. However, I never had an interest in flying an eagle, for falconry, I prefer small zippy things, but I enjoyed making him into somthing resembling a nice hawk to work with, just somthing I wouldnt want to repeat.😂😂
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 4 месяца назад
I get what you mean , I fancy some Thing zippy for a bit and also if Zeus popped off in wouldn’t have the heart to do another one !
@alfiewhippet.
@alfiewhippet. 4 месяца назад
They definitely take total commitment for over 6 months of the year. I felt like I was popping home, rather than popping out hawking😂😂 but I have some fantastic memories of that time.
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 4 месяца назад
@alfiewhippet. Yes my first three years with Zeus was like that
@jasonreid3029
@jasonreid3029 11 месяцев назад
Very good video Dave! I successfully flew a first year female golden eagle here in the USA this past season taking wild white tailed jackrabbits. I cannot stress enough how much I agree with your assessment, even with my limited experience. The number of slips an eagle needs to learn to be successful (and that really needs to be hares) and the amount of work they are just can’t be overstated. They are a commitment that has no other equal in falconry. I agree wholeheartedly… if you want an eagle, just don’t. Not after a couple years of going out with folks successfully flying and taking game with them and making sure ALL the factors needed are in place for you
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 10 месяцев назад
Cheers: and well done; even harder to achieve over there!
@ComicusFreemanius
@ComicusFreemanius 10 месяцев назад
I will never forget the call.
@wesleyworley8982
@wesleyworley8982 4 месяца назад
As aggravating and complex as the licensing and regulation process is in the USA, it does ensure that the birds are protected and that you have the experience and resources for the bird you want to fly. To fly a Golden in America, you have to have at minimum seven years falconry experience.
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 4 месяца назад
Deffo ; a half way point between USA lawns and out freedom would Work well , as you say it’s the birds that suffer and even falconry itself
@ramsayward6582
@ramsayward6582 11 месяцев назад
This video should be getting a lot more coverage. I've got no desires to ever keep a Golden Eagle . I've helped to cast one in the past to fit anklets . That was an experience I'll tell you. The power of this bird made my Redtailed Hawk feel like I've been handling a sparrow for years. Great informative video as usual Dave.
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 11 месяцев назад
Cheers!
@LaurenMcGoughEagles
@LaurenMcGoughEagles 9 месяцев назад
Great video, Dave! I'm enjoying all your videos. We're trying to spread awareness of the huge commitment that golden eagles take in the US, and this is great to see from the UK side! Thanks for putting it together.
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 9 месяцев назад
Cheers and good luck!
@Kestrel2357
@Kestrel2357 11 месяцев назад
Instinctive vs thinking mind, that work similiary for my parrot, i like the way you phrased it.
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 11 месяцев назад
Yes deffo same thing , even with something as low intelligence as snakes tbh
@williecorcoran2676
@williecorcoran2676 5 месяцев назад
Hi Dave I remember watching one of your videos about your wellingtons falling apart 😩 I got a pair of Treksta for an Xmas gift and I have to say they are good 👍
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 5 месяцев назад
Hehe! Only talking about those last week.! Loved them but at £350 they need to last more than a year eh! Got some cheap aigles at no that are on second season so won’t buy the nice chamoix ones shin!
@williecorcoran2676
@williecorcoran2676 5 месяцев назад
@@falconry.davesharpenatureboy oh we’re yours Treksta too?? Mine were €140 seem to be going ok so far but it’s early days yet😂😂😂
@freebirdofreason1994
@freebirdofreason1994 11 месяцев назад
Cheers for a good food for thought video, always top guidance for us who want to be a better before mistakes are made.
@MichaelDavis-pq6ei
@MichaelDavis-pq6ei 11 месяцев назад
As always Dave thanks for the insight. I won't bother with a Golden Eagle you talked me out of it. For a pestie like me Harris all the way. Thanks again Dave for info.
@jamesbonelli9680
@jamesbonelli9680 11 месяцев назад
Hi Dave, Ilive in the states and have many years as a faconer[ 50] and ive never had the desire to fly one because the work it take to train one and the number of game you will get foe me isnt worth it. I can go out with my falcon and have aworry free day and ger all the game I want ane have a gteat time. Thank you foe the video, i only hope more falconers watch it.
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 11 месяцев назад
Cheers James
@williecorcoran2676
@williecorcoran2676 8 месяцев назад
Hi Dave loving the clips and we will all watch out for your new channel and keep following you 👍 maybe a silly question but did you ever come across a white faced scops owls eyes changing to a brighter orange??? Thanks Willie
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 8 месяцев назад
I’m a bit colourblind so prob wouldn’t have noticed ! But not surprised if yours has wirh age
@darrenstoodley5980
@darrenstoodley5980 10 месяцев назад
Hi Dave another top class video never worry about the length of your videos especially when it's about topucs like this 1
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 10 месяцев назад
Thankyou
@recycledracehorsefalconryt7557
@recycledracehorsefalconryt7557 10 месяцев назад
Excellent video and advice Dave
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 10 месяцев назад
Means a lot from Yourself
@withvinayak
@withvinayak 11 месяцев назад
The first few seconds melted my heart! Such majestic bird ❤
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 11 месяцев назад
He’s lovely
@johnabbott4424
@johnabbott4424 10 месяцев назад
Wise words as usual
@johnwilkes7190
@johnwilkes7190 11 месяцев назад
Some very good points don't worry about the video length, an important topic. Perhaps a follow up with film covering , OK if you have the quarry have the permission have the background knowledge , experience etc you decide to go with an Eagle . Perhaps dealing with lure aggression , trade off /pick up with Eagles , food territorial issues, awareness of slow maturation and how that impacts on training and the need to revisit some issues as the bird matures . Actual flying (I know you have covered this a bit in Eagle vids ) flying off the fist(soaring flights as in USA not really practical in most UK situations) and use of hoods to mitigate undesirable behaviour (bating at a Hare 4 fields away etc.) risk awareness (terriers and dachshunds are not food!) Any how just some thoughts.
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 11 месяцев назад
Cheers John, I’ll need to get some footage in the season I think…
@johnwilkes7190
@johnwilkes7190 11 месяцев назад
true but an introductory talk through would I am sure be of value and hopefully mae people re asses them as a Falconry bird option but of course I am but a simple rehbber these days@@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@johnwilkes7190
@johnwilkes7190 11 месяцев назад
bloody predictive text thingy .... hopefully make ... etc
@facundobinelli6077
@facundobinelli6077 11 месяцев назад
This is gonna be nice
@lohikarhu734
@lohikarhu734 11 месяцев назад
only 100? I'm in hospital, low battery, so will follow the fun tomorrow! have.a great day/evening, all...
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 11 месяцев назад
Hope it’s not serious
@facundobinelli6077
@facundobinelli6077 11 месяцев назад
Hey Dave, i wanted to know your insight on black Chested buzzard eagles. Since they are native to my area i see them often in the Wild But i would love to know about their use in falconry. thank you for sharing your knowledge!
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 11 месяцев назад
Very good birds, very little tested in the U.K. but ours regularly takes gyr and feather from be soar in displays.! Can be hunted off the fist but really a superb bird for flying from the soar in hill country . There’s a pic somewhere of falconers taking jackal with them too!
@leslielamcke7020
@leslielamcke7020 10 месяцев назад
As an American falconer, it’s insane that you can go out and buy a golden eagle for $2k. That is not in the realm of possibility for us.
@leslielamcke7020
@leslielamcke7020 10 месяцев назад
Also, who hits their eagles! Try that with a wild trapped bird and you will have some serious holes in your hand.
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 10 месяцев назад
You guys have it too difficult and here it’s too easy ….
@jujucattys156
@jujucattys156 3 месяца назад
What wood u say be best way to make in in a first year eagle on kill
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 3 месяца назад
Get straight in whilst it's still battling with its prey or just finished , use your glove as a shield , approach front on . Help the bird feed . Do this with carcass lures first but it will b emote fired up on its first kill than the dragged dead ones, make sure the dead ones out up a fight first by pulling on line etc
@jujucattys156
@jujucattys156 3 месяца назад
@@falconry.davesharpenatureboy ye just comen sense then raily hoping tomorrow be first time on full carcass was planing ones hit it twitching bouncing hell out off it to try get him focuse his aggression frustration on that rather than me making in on him
@LJ-yq9cx
@LJ-yq9cx 10 месяцев назад
Is there a way to contact you for q?
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 10 месяцев назад
Here or email via contacts on www.raptorxotics.co.uk
@raphlvlogs271
@raphlvlogs271 11 месяцев назад
eagles as well as their relatives are both predators and scavengers as soon as they come across carrion
@robertgriffin5538
@robertgriffin5538 11 месяцев назад
Ronnie Moore was the best eagle flyer in the uk .
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy
@falconry.davesharpenatureboy 11 месяцев назад
Pioneer!
@chiffchaff3355
@chiffchaff3355 11 месяцев назад
Not sure about the best Robert.. He only flew his eagle when the winds were westerly, accounted for a few rabbits in each season. A forgotten eagler is Tony Scott from Northumberland, I remembering the 90s he even flew his eagle in the Matterhorn in the high Alps & he hunted his eagle seriously. He was the last person allowed to take a wild eagle under licence in Scotland for falconry.
@chiffchaff3355
@chiffchaff3355 11 месяцев назад
Don't see the point hunting an eagle. You'll see far more sport & style with a shortwing. Flying eagles off the fist > it's hardly exhilarating, & the quality of sport matches the head count at the end of the season. If I wanted to just 'catch' hares I'd fly a Gos, but then with a good Goshawk it's like shelling peas. The best hare hawk I've seen was a 2lb German Gos. I've also noticed with 'Eaglers' their ego matches the avian Lancaster Bombers they handle. & often when I've been to see some now big names who had/have imprinted goldies, they fly them for the first season, lucky to get over 5 head of quarry, then it's left in an aviary with all the excuses under the sun why they no longer fly it. & as for catching deer, just dragging a deer down isn't my cup of tea, & the venison on eagle caught deer/highly stressed deer > you notice the difference. Hosted eagle meets a good few years back... So why hunt with eagle's? Hardly the most practical hunting hawk out there... Take a lot of effort for minimum satisfaction as a hunting hawk.
@chiffchaff3355
@chiffchaff3355 11 месяцев назад
Just to add, I hunted my golden eagle from 2006 to 2017, I lost my eagle in the 2017 season whilst hunting. Came down on a roe deer grollach that had been laced with a strong insecticide mainly used for killing wasps after testing. Took on a crop quickly. I hunted my eagle seriously, even lamping to keep an imprint focused especially when daylight hours were short & mixed in with bad weather. Having a eagle just on a dragged lure between trips out doesn't stop aggression, so kill kill kill... So why I lamped my eagle on average 3 nights a week mixed in with day time hawking. I won't go into detail what quarry species I took. But I never lamped foxes > an eagle can't see where to place the feet around the muzzle. Had my eagle bitten in day times when as incidental kills from waiting on etc. I'd never have another eagle, the bond was like halfway between a dog, but it's a chapter I've closed > goshawks & tiercel peregrines only for me now..... Far more sport & entertainment in a more usable package
@nineaether888
@nineaether888 8 месяцев назад
Confirmation from your eagle to me with his talking🦅🪶💚💜 thank you.. lacking goverment again
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