Some HOA are very kid friendly - just remember check the rules and meet the board or become part of the board - HOA are wonderful if regulated correctly - CA is a great state that curbs HOAs but Texas - is another story
Luis Camacho Sad thing is...People usually know there is an HOA when purchasing property. Don’t buy property with an HOA. If you do you are rolling the dice and hoping you will never raise the, “boards” or a neighbors ire. If you do, and the HOA makes demand about the rules... Remember, you rolled the dice and now you lost. Also, consider that EVERY TIME a newly elected board becomes in charge, the rules can change.....
@@Hambone571 here in California - rule changes must be checked with Attorney or Escrow Board - it’s difficult and when they go bananas the HOA management company usually looses - We worked with an excellent real estate agent who always told us - In California - Escrow process details this - they will usually give you the HOA number to get see if your a good fit - I don’t know about other states but here in CA it’s part of your disclosures - first meeting with Escrow process 3 weeks before mortgage process
Joseph Duclos They have no reason to screw with me. I like condo I bought,the rules/bylaws, and community where I live. I don't make noise,no kids,and don't want to change anything. I people are stupid enough to put down several hundred thousand on a condo without reading rules/bylaws and not follow them it's all on them and they might as well move.
Amen. Fuck HOAs. People that have no control over their lives get a tiny bit of power and try to control how others live. You buy a house to have a bit of independence. To leave your parents, raise your own family, and escape landlords and roommates. Then HOAs manage to insert themselves into your life and you're back to square one. They march you around like the little Commies they are, smiling, taking your money, telling you how to live, and promising your property value will skyrocket when you are ready to sell. Fuck that.
BlackWorldTraveler not all HOA are like communist leaders but some are and you never know how your HOA will be when you are buying a home with one. You got lucky, but some people get horrible HOA and have their lives turned upside down
They cant make you pay for their lawyer fee's... They can try and sue you with a counter suit but they wont get it for that reason alone... They will need a good reason for a counter suit or they wont have a case because judges will toss out any small petty case like that because your lawyer can always fight the counter and drag the court even longer. If they ever do that and get it, then the judge was paid off and or your attorney sucks really bad. If you speak the truth then they must of had a good reason and proof of you wasting their time and cost for no good reason.
Forget about reading the rule of no kids playing in the common area in the CC&R. Most likely, it is not in the CC&R. The HOA may just put a notice on the notice board for a couple of days saying, for example, Parents allowing children to play in the common area with excessive noise are subjected to a fine of $100. Then the HOA thinks that's the law of the land. What pisses me off is that quite a few times we were disturbed by extreme loud car alarm that went on for as long as half an hour both in day time and at around 9 pm but the HOA never talked about it nor did it make any rule to impose a fine on the car owners responsible for the annoying car alarm. I have just expressed my discontent about this absurd situation to the HOA.
I’m guessing there’s more to this story. I assume the family dominated the common area and were most likely loud. Kids will be kids and it should be encouraged. However, I think it’s important for people to live in appropriate neighborhoods. Meaning, people who don’t like to be around other noisy people shouldn’t be in packed condo or townhouse settings. On the other hand, people with gaggles of kids probably should be where there is a yard or more room to be kids. People just need to be more self aware.
My grandmother had Narcissistic Personality Disorder. She would call police on her neighbors for anything - outdoor party, kids playing, someone driving too fast. She got enjoyment out of messing with people. These are the people typically on HOA boards. I have many more stories i’m leaving out.
my mom was like that too. i knew a guy a while back who had horror stories about his dad from his childhood. he was retired and his entire ambition became to lead the HOA board. these people are BATSHIT.
HOA's are usually found in large planned communities. These are usually safer for families, and have more consistency in the quality of the homes. Dealing with annoying regulations is just the price for that.
Also for those who plan on investing in your bought home where the property value is concerned. Value won't be as great if your neighbor isn't caring about his home as much as another who cares.
Justin Hanson that old argument has been proven false time and again. You people act as if every neighborhood outside of an hoas control has sevral of "those" thpes of neighbors (unkempt lawns, derelict cars, moonshine still in the front yard etc.). Homes in hoa neighborhoods gain valur (aka: appreciate) at a far slower rate than those in an independent neighborhood.
An HOA began where my mom lived and they wanted her to become a member, pay dues (for nothing but their rules) and OBEY their edicts. One day a fat man who was the 'king' threatened her. She threw them off her property, got retraining orders, issued trespass warnings and advised the others being bullied to do the same. She beat them in court, in public opinion and within weeks the GOA gang was begging for mercy. Later it came out they were using fees to pay for parties and improvements to their own properties.
My father, and a bunch of his friends started an HOA the difference being yes you had certain policies you had to follow. However, they also included lawn care and gardening service pest control, pool treatment, as well as exterior house cleaning included in the HOA due the community was very close, and if someone wasn’t following, the rules, neighbors would go up to them and say directly. Hey, you really shouldn’t do that Try to fix it. once my father and his friends left and other people took over the HOA it all fell apart
Been in an HOA community only once, and I will never ever buy a home in another HOA community!! They are abusive, overpowering, senseless, and in many cases, discriminatory!!
I paid the mortgage, taxes, HOA dues but were not allowed to grow some roses. Hence the HOA owns the house not the people paying the bills. So we moved and no HOA and we can grow flowers if we want to or not. I finally feel like a home owner.
I will never buy a home in an HOA community again! They will fine you and harass you at every opportunity as this is what happened to me. I learned the hard way. Never again!
My daughter’s HOA threatened to fine her $500 every my grandson played outside. Once HOA realized my daughter’s knowledge of the Fair Housing Act, they backed off.
I lived in a HOA with my parents and it was a NIGHTMARE. They are very evil and money hungry. I'm not even joking. We were so quiet and never caused trouble and yet they would constantly send us penalty letters for made up stuff we didn't do. And you have to pay it or get kicked out of your own home. They think they own every house and the 'owners' are under their authority. I will never ever buy a house with an HOA.
The kids behind my house scream at the top of their lungs when they play outside. I would prefer that i didn’t have to hear it but then I remember how much fun I had playing outside with friends as a kid and then I get over it. It’s part of life, let kids be kids. So what if there is noise outside.
My kids can be noisy too even in the house. I tell them to tone it down and that last all of 30 seconds lol. But seriously when I get annoyed I think of them having to be at school all day, where they are required to sit down and be quiet. Kids need an outlet to run and play and yes be loud sometimes.
@@calliet My kids don't get recess at school so try again dipshit. Luckily I don't live in a HOA around people like you. My kids are free to play and roam so cry harder weirdo.
We were fined and had to fight our case because we repainted the deck and they said it was the wrong color. Turned out, it was just a brighter white because we had painted more recently than any other owner. HOA are all about the 💰
Marine McCord Never occurred to you to read the rules and bylaws and just ask for the color key? I did this just last week. Went and asked and they even gave me the paint I needed. Nothing really complicated.😂😂😂😂
Does anyone think these parents are just bad parents and their kids are out of control. I don’t think their idea of “just being kids” is the same as mine. I’m a father of four btw
That's true. I see the same thing in restaurants. These parents, who are used to hearing their kids screaming and yelling all the time don't care if they do it while you are trying to enjoy your meal.
Aaand this is why the mere existence of an HOA in an area is a serious red flag for me. Too much power given to a handful of petty, narcissistic people. As to the family in the newscast? Move to a more working class neighborhood. Seriously. There's fewer stuck-up snobs, and as I'm typing this I can hear the local kids playing in the park right behind my home. Plus it's cheaper. ...Just don't move in with the intention of moving the place "Up market". That attitude only ruins things. As demonstrated in this video
The lawsuit won't go anywhere and here's why. HOA attorneys love conflict and lawsuits because lawsuits equals more money. The HOA has much deeper pockets and can afford a lengthy and expensive lawsuit. The former residents will likely have to cut their losses at some point because of the increasing expense of fighting an HOA that they no longer live in anyway. Believe me I know from from first hand experience. At the HOA where we used to live things got so out of control that we could have easily filed a civil suit against the Board members for defamation and harassment. Ultimately it wasn't worth the time, hassle and expense. Instead we led a recall effort that saw the entire Board removed after which we decided we had had enough of HOA life and moved to a non-HOA neighborhood. HOA's are an abomination that should be banned.
This is a very wrong assessment in this instance. Because this is a federal Fair Housing Act case. It’s not a simple state HOA issue. They’re subject to federal investigation and serious repercussions to include licensure, HOA disbanding and a host of others. I know. I’ve helped prosecute several right next door in NV😁
@@fashiondiva6972 uh, once i made a joke in another video about HOAs claiming it was their 'right' to just barge into peoples houses and how such claims could get them as a criminal i.e. human trafficking/porn/drug trafficking, conspiracy, and i got a response from someone who took my joke seriously. kinda got me wondering though: if lawyers took my joke, cause that's all it was, seriously and pursued the charges what would happen.
Been there done that. Got out 15 years ago. I live in the country now where I can live how I want and no one bothers me. I,d rather live in a trailer park then an HOA area.
When you receive a lease you can take that lease to your lawyer and edit out sections you disagree with. If your lease states that you can be evicted for not paying HOA fines or fees. You are perfectly with in your rights to have that entire section removed from the lease. I have removed HOA clauses from leases, lowered the monthly payment and had the community leasing agent sign the edited lease without reading it. So if I can get away with it so can you. Don't take any shit from an HOA.
@@KayDejaVu ussually its 60-80% of the residents vote to disolve the hoa. It has to get pretty bad for that to happen but its a healthy part of every hoa.
Parents knew what they were signing up for. In order to live where the parents want to live, they need to discipline their kids or move out. Really no reason for a bunch of girls to run out of their home screaming every time a team makes a point.
Wrong. Kids need to be managed. I guarantee you no one likes to hear ongoing screaming kids when trying to enjoy peace in their own home, this side also needs to be looked at and is also a a Fact Of Life...
+ Dave M No it's called shit parents being shit parents. Get your shitty facts straight. If you can't learn to control your own kids and learn to teach them the basics of respect then you shouldn't be allowed to have kids.
Fined for garage door left open for about 15 min, fined for my grandchild leaving a toy truck left in the grass while he came in for lunch, fined for my motorcycle being to noisy in my garage. Never again will I live in a HOA Community they can kiss my white behind. I sold the place to a biker buddy of mine he knew about the problems I had and he’s having a great time they even have tried to buy the place, besides he has club meetings at the little hall swimming pool place.
I understand why they this happened. I lived in an HOA community and the kids were a constant problem mostly because none of them were being monitored and allowed to do what they wanted which included running in front of people who were driving intentionally. They climbed trees and fences in the common area and even stole packages and vandalized property. And this was a nice community.
You are probably a liar with nothing better to do than hate children who are allowed to play outside! I'm dealing with neighbors like you, in my HOA. Kids should be allowed to play OUTSIDE!
If you had hood rats for neighbors then I understand, but if its families with well behaved kids then I wouldn't be so bitchy about it. There should be apartments and neighborhoods for childfree and petfree people. If you don't like it. Then make is known that families with kids and pets cannot move there.
I SOLD MY BEAUTIFUL HOME IN SIMI VALLEY CA....BECAUSE THE HOA HARASSED ME OVER TREES IN MY OWN BACKYARD TREES THAT HAD BEEN THERE FOR 15 YRS BEFORE I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, THEY WERE RETIRED COPS!! AFTER I MOVED OUT TWO OTHER FAMILIES ALSO SOLD AND MOVED THEY WERE HARASSED BECAUSE THEY HAD YOUNG CHILDREN.
As someone who has lived next to kids that were terrors and parents that couldn’t have cared less I’d be interested in hearing the other side of the story.
"Peaceful enjoyment of the property" usually pertains to after noise ordinance hours. My understanding anyway. If you want a retirement community then move there.
No, it doesn't. It is meant to address people who don't consider the impact noise makes on others. Nobody forced them to live in an HOA. I have lived in them for years, with kids and had no trouble. My son had 11 friends in our little HOA. They had a park set aside for them to play. I made sure of where they could play etc., before buying.. They played football, baseball, basketball. We had their parties there. They just hung out there. When they wanted to get rowdy, it was in the park. If it ever got too loud for more than 5 minutes, one of the mom's or dad's would call out and ask them to quiet down. They did. Yes, the PARENTS did it!!! What a concept!!! Those kids are still friends today - from age 5 to age 30. ALL of them have the fondest memories of our neighborhood. They loved growing up there. It's up to YOU to decide if your kids have enough space to play before you buy in an HOA. If your kids are extremely LOUD, they probably should not live in an HOA. Everyone would be happier if they didn't.
@@sharonburke100 you obviously didn't pay attention to the video - these rules weren't in place when they bought their units. That's the thing with HOAs - they can make up any rule they like at any time.
I feel bad for the family but I’m wondering how loud those kids were. Yes kids get loud but for how long? I use to live next door to a family of 5. They were always loud and it was worst when they had other kids over. Just constant noise. Even at night. Even the dad looked miserable. He would sit outside in the back after work while his kids ran through the house. You could hear them from outside. Constant yelling and screaming.
Reminds me of my neighbors who stay up late at night setting off fireworks and get surprised when someone calls the police on them for it and they react surprised...
Some neighbors are inconsiderate!!! My neighbor plays very loud music when she arrives to her house at odd hours then sits in her car for 30mins replaying “her jam” I once walked outside and asked her to turn it down please, her reply “ Are you gunna make me! I can do whatever I want!” the whole neighborhood can hear her music. She’s a renter hopefully she’ll move soon.
The problem with seeking to address matters with an HOA is that doing so often ends up consuming a good bit of time, emotional energy and money. HOAs are generally not worth it, in my opinion.
These types of parents are oblivious to the noise/disturbances kids make when playing. They should not be screaming and running amok. This is why you take your kids to a park to play. I totally get this. Nobody wants to hear brats running around. It's common sense and the HOA is totally right on this front. Kid's don't belong in Condos/Apartments. Having your brats running outside screaming is SO rude.
The closer you get to a city the more youre likely to live in a subdivision. Dont do it! Sometimes its worth the commute to live in a more rural area for your peace of mind and free from HOA torment. A house where you have a few acres and can hardly see your neighbor from the porch is a beautiful thing.
I never side with HOAs but this one I do. If it says kids shouldn’t make excessive noise then don’t move into those areas. The neighbors have right to peace.
Home owners’s associations are a bunch of nazis!!! I wouldn’t like it if some jack hole in a fancy suit and a Mont Blanc come up to me and tell me how tall I need to cut my lawn, what color I need to paint my fence, what type of fence I need to build, how low I need to keep the decibel level down, what vehicles I need to park in my driveway, or put in my backyard to fix or maintain. This is supposed to be America, not some dipshit country with an oppressive government. We had supposedly defeated those AHs in May of 1945 for a good reason. …but I see that the enemy has slowly crept from the ashes, and has slithered, and infiltrated this country, because we have allowed it after all those years. You shouldn’t support them PERIOD!!!!! Be ashamed of yourself!!!!
What happened to the days when you would mow a neighbours lawn when they went into hospital? I didn't get my mower for 2 weeks (on order). In the meantime, someone mowed the front lawn for me. Thanks, neighbour and I hope I can do the same for you one day.
Kids are loud. Not everyone likes hearing loud kids all day. Same with you can't play loud music or your neighbors will call the cops on you for disturbing the peace..
@Jen Lee Can you read? I never wrote that I hated kids or animals. Furthermore, you're assuming that I don't live in a rural area or own my own land smh. I will continue to be a whiny brat as you put it and you can continue to be a fucktard.
@veronica carlson how about if you hate kids, you move to a retirement community! Simple! There's loads of loud kids in my neighborhood.. and you know what? I'm thankful to those parents for forcing their kids to go outside and be KIDS instead of being glued to their computers and iPads and iPhones!!
Jeni L stop being entitled u choose to have kids not me . Now do want me a nurse to come to work taking care of u when I’m a zombie cause I can’t sleep in day
When you think about it..Because HOA's are not answerable to anyone but themselves. That is a recipe for power hungry...strong armed tactics based on petty prejudices or preferences. A little power... instilled in a little person can be potentially destructive. After all when are they ever going to get another opportunity to "rule"?
Kids can be extremely noisy, I'm in the 10th floor and when I have window open in summer some scream so loud I can't focus on work, imagine what it's like on the first or second floor...
People with lots of four kids, like this story reports, really should not be living in the tight confines of a townhouse community. They should be in an single family home in a neighborhood/residential area.
Exactly. People shoould live in communities that fit them and their families, not try to change ones that are already there. They agreed to the rules and then complained because they want an exception when it doesnt suit them anymore
I am not defending the HOA(I hate them with a passion), but funny enough I lived in San Diego which is near the area in the video with very similar laid out neighborhood. The way the building and the “common” area is set up, the echoes are very profound. I can only imagine if bunch of kids are screaming their lungs out and always playing with toys, it would drive the other neighbors crazy! One time, when I was walking my dog, I noticed that one of my neighbors were getting it on. I guess they had their window slightly open and the moaning was echoing throughout the street lol. Very difficult to be ignored. High five to that couple!
You're a good neighbor and I'm betting you don't get any complaints either. Something tells me "screaming at the top of their lungs" is a much more accurate description than "cheering" for their teams goal in this video but it's a much better story if the evil HOA is driving out a happy family that isn't doing anything wrong...
In college I rented a room in a townhouse. I was told to tell neighbors I was a cousin because a neighbor wanted to know who I was to the owners. The homeowners were harrassed by hoa for the baby crying or the mom putting a ninja turtle window cling in the baby's window or kids toys on balcony. Totally ridiculous.
@@secondchance6603 I know how to read the rules and bylaws before buying and not into lying. Also always avoided single mothers and their baggage since high school so wouldn’t know much about that type.
To the HOA in this video: If you do NOT like families with kids, then why don't you just state that you do NOT want kids living there on your paperwork.
Back in 2003 I worked as a 'groundskeeper' for two years at an HOA community in Laguna Niquel CA. I was hired by a friend of mine who had purchased a townhouse in the community. She got onto the landscaping committee and she wanted to turn the community into a 'pesticide and herbicide safe zone.' Anyway, little did she know that a realtor was purchasing townhouses using straw-buyers and flipping them. The realtor didn't want the community to be a 'pesticide and herbicide safe zone.' She wanted full-on spraying. Anyway, a sort of mini-war broke out between my friend and the realtor with both ladies lining up homeowners on their side of the arguement. The realtor had her clique march around the community with signs like "He's not spraying' and 'He's destroying our property values" -- he being me. My friend had her followers marching with signs like "They want to kill the bees" and "spraying is toxic to your pets." Finally, things got so bad that there was recall election against my friend -- and she lost. I was immediately fired and my friend was hounded out of the community by the opposition folks. But what really made her move was the day after I was fired a company came in and sprayed the heck out of the community. Guys were walking around in haz-mat outfits with long hoses and using spray marked with blue dye to spray everywhere. The place looked some kind of blue-dyed warzone after they got through. My friend put her townhouse up for sale and got out there as fast as she could.
Your friend was most certainly the intelligent one in that community. Would be interesting to see the stats on medical issues incurred in that sector. It is always astounding how many folk's will fight for their impending doom. Prayers and Blessings for you and your friend.
I always say when I see HOA communities-- well , you can’t eat from that yard. Growing perfect grass will not feed them ! I grow organic food - my yard blesses me.
I want the other side of the story. My gut feeling is that these kids are out of control. There is a reasonable person standard for how loud kids can be when playing and it varies depending on if it's at the HOA playground vs the common area near the garages or the actual townhouse. Would you want screaming kids outside of your bedroom window down in the garage area while on a Zoom work meeting? These parents are what we would call Karens in modern lingo and they should GTFO.
The neighbor, who screamed at the children should also receive the same warnings and the same threats for making noises by screaming at the children. Fair is fair.
There should be other side of the story. People living in close proximity should be respectful to the peace and quietness of the neighborhood. Kids can play in the park, there should be no blasting music and loud parties. People prefer quietness and it is never too much.
Only a joy to people with houses in neighborhoods with houses. There are reasons why people live in condos. Mowing and maintenance isn’t the only thing people want to avoid and the reason this family is no longer there.
Sounds of fun and laughter, yes...that's when it's pleasant, they should be outside playing. But not when they scream...literally scream and bicker the whole time or cuss each other out. If you're also at home working all day its stressful. Walmart is a great place to go if you want a dose of kids screaming to the top of their lungs on the other end of the store...home is supposed to be a sanctuary. Kids can be taught respect and consideration while having their fun. We did as kids.
I’m so glad I live outside a hoa they wanted to join because my house is so close to a gated community and threatened me if I didn’t good think my high school best friends was the country judge and helped me but here’s some advice there is a lot better places to raise your children beside these housing developments and if you do live in a development with a hoa sell your home as fast as you can and give a copy of the bylaws to realators so they now most of the time hoa’s don’t give them a copy also tell your neighbors what’s going on the more people leave the faster they change the rules
“Quiet, private.” That’s what the other homeowners bought into the HOA for. If you don’t want to abide by the HOA, don’t buy a house there. If you do, don’t complain about the rules.
The complex is obviously NOT an over-55 area which expressly excludes children so children are allowed. The people living there need to put up with them - at least during the daytime. These families will win the lawsuit.
I wish our HOA took a similar view about noisy neighbours. We are surrounded by barking/howling dogs and the HOA say there is nothing they will do about it. They refused to even drop a polite note to the relevant dog owners. When I went round to see our neighbour about his dog (it was almost midnight & it was still at it), I was verbally abused and he (the neighbour not the dog) deliberately broke our mailbox, costing us over $300 to replace it. The police came out but wouldn't do anything unless we pressed charges. We declined as it would have cost us even more in the long run. Our HOA is more concerned about the colour of residents' lawns than anything else. They are against artificial turf (there is a water shortage where we live) and solar energy (their opposition to which goes against federal law).
Thats awful! Thats why i always tell our property manager from the property management company we pay our dues to, that she must be the mediator and send noticed herself. She must confront neighbors, even though she tried to wiggle out of doing that by asking us to. What sre we paying her to do, then? Do she now does that because going to talk to your neighbors always ends badly. She also sends someone to check oit our properties and she enforcess our bylaws. Barking dogs and loud kids are a nuisancem we email her everytime with a complaint. So staying on top of her making sure she does her job is most important first or the HOA thing doesnt work.
I love kids but some often are a nightmare because parents don't educate kids, instead shove technology down their throats as substitute. Last year I had to complain because it was 3am and the kid was running all over the place and parents were watching tv like nothing is happening. I went upstairs and told them dudeee its 3 am have your kid stop running in the apt at this time, I have an in home test tomorrow at 9 am. Guess what at 9 am they had their kid make more noise same as them just to annoy me. Teach your kids to behave for Gods sake, there a place and time
First impression is that this seems like a good place to live. It respects the rights of all residents to quiet enjoyment of their homes. Second, these people are lying. If they just wanted to resolved their case, they'd just go to court. The only reason to call TV is to try to wage PR war, hoping to gain some advantage. The HOA can't discuss the details because of privacy regulations, but these people are free to lie all they want on TV and face no penalties. Third, 1:40, the woman says that the demand to "cure the problem" meant getting rid of the children. She's clearly misrepresenting the reality, which is to have the kids play inside, not play in the common areas (liability issues) and teach them to monitor and maintain their noise level when playing in the yard. That she is deliberately misrepresenting a reasonable request strongly suggests she's lying. Finally, their lawyer is full of shit, you know, because he's looking for a fat payday.
We bought a brand new house gated community. The first 2 months we moved in we got a letter from HOA that we couldn't park our car on the street right in front of our house. Then we another letter came in the mail, we couldn't park in own our driveway. They said we have to park our cars in the garage only.
I remember one time a weed was sticking out on to the sidewalk and they didn’t warn me but instead sent me a letter saying I’ve been fined for $50 for that one weed lose to the sidewalk. HOA are a fucking nightmare
There was a column in the paper where i lived written by a housing attorney. You could write in and ask him questions. 90% of the questions were complaints about hoas and asking what could be done. His answer was always the same: get a copy of the bylaws and covenants and if what youre complaining about is in those bylaws and covenants and you signed them (which you have to do before you buy your house ) then you have no recourse because you agreed to them.
Exactly! Everybody likes and agrees with the bylawas until it doesnt suit them anymore. People should live in comunities that fit their families because these bylaws must be enforced so everyone can keep that aesthetic they liked when they purchased. If you dont agree, dont sign saying that you do.
Our HOA had one set of rules when we moved in but they've had board meetings and a change of directors and they change the rules so just because you signed the first rules doesn't mean that they won't change the rules.
@@Livetoeat171 exact same thing happened to our neighborhood, most the people who lived there a long time have moved out , the newer ones think this is how it’s always been
the news is bit twisting the facts, yes children will be noisy in the house in the park etc... but if the common area is meant to be noise free, then it needs to be noise free. Though I hate HOAs and made sure I don't have an HOA when I got my home, but this time I would side on the HOA if they had such rule.
Yup, people knew the rules and bylaws existed, they only dont like it when it doesnt suit them anymore. We live in an HOA community, but I only buy into the ones where rhe bylaws i agree with and it works out. Our subdivision looks new still because of it. Its a choice, if you dont agree, dont sign papers saying you agree then move in and try to change what everybody else agreed on.
EcClair Mayo Indeed. They even loaned me a copy of the rules and bylaws for a couple of weeks to read while considering. And if I don’t like those particular rules I move on. I will never understand people. It’s so stupid to me and makes no sense. Go through all the buying/renting, moving your furniture,changing mailing address,disrupting kid’s school,etc..then get angry because you don’t like the rules.
Yes and no. Planned communities usually have designated play areas away from the living units. There is no reason for your child to be screaming right under someone else's window. They said that there were parks and such nearby...that's a perfectly appropriate place for noise.
Exactly. They said there were parjs, so why dont they use them? They agreed to these rules when they purchased, but now that it doesnt suit them anymore they want exceptions. They should jist move to a community where it fits them. Nobody wants to hear screaming and squealing kids outside their window everytime something happens on TV.
Right. They agreed on the rules and now they want to make exceptions when it doesnt suit them anymore. People should buy into communitirs that fit their families needs and wants, not try to change whats already there. They literally said there is a park down the street, thats what it is there for.
@@ecclairmayo4153 Thing is the rules change and are often vague etc, so the members of the HOA get replaced and suddenly you get a bunch of Karen's with some power and it turns into a nightmare
To be fair some HOA's are very tame then when new members are elected it can become a nightmare. I personally would never live in a neighborhood with an HOA no matter how relax the rules are.
@@andyt2k Yep. Thats why I would just avoid any HOA's completely. Not worth it at all, my dream home is out in the country on a few acres of land close to a lake so I can fish lol.
Both sides have good arguments. Was this property listed as family friendly or adult? Didn't the bylaws specifically mention loud outdoor activities? If so, were the hours listed? THis story had too-few facts and too much emotion.
What a stupid woman to let her kids go outside and scream every time their team scores. That was inconsiderate of other residents and very unreasonable. I wouldn't want to hear kids screaming in my home either. People have the right to enjoy their home in peace. It was her decision to have those kids, not mine!
I live in a HOA who feels like most people do. Kids should play, however, if they go screaming out side your house, that's total bullshit. I had to deal with this shit for over a year. HOA did nothing about it. The guards did nothing about it. I was happy as hell when they moved out. I'm now buying that home. And loud ass kids are not welcomed.
cindy That may work for those neighborhoods and subdivisions with houses with HOAs. All I got to say is read the rules and bylaws for condos thoughly before making your decision to buy or rent. Especially the ones on private property like mine because fighting won't work,waste of time,and expense on you.
@@kentondickerson so if the hoa laws say no playing in common areas a family can 8gnore it to their own detriment cause of fair housing? Bs. The same then would have to apply across the board. No senior communities as its against housing laws to discriminate against age
It's true in these complexes you cannot play or ride bikes or motorcycles or skateboard in the common areas ! I was always paranoid when I had to ride my bike back to my house and I was the homeowner ! Take this as truth neighbors some of which will be watching every move you make and will report you ! Those common areas are usually the driveway and garage entrances and the roads in and out of the complexes and are not safe for kids! That's why they have green space or common areas for kids to play ! When you move into an area you better read the entire HOA book of bylaws because they are dead serious about enforcing them with a warning then fines ! It is best to not live in an HOA complex if you can avoid it ! Remember everyone has to follow the laws in the HOA guideline booklet and you must be provided a booklet upon buying or renting in these communities ! It is your right to ask for these Guidelines and the HOA must legally provide you with these!
If the children are watching a sports show on tv indoors why on earth would they all run outside to cheer? Makes no sense, it sounds like they were all just being deliberately provocative when they were already aware they were supposed to keep noise levels down. Perhaps the parents directed this in preparation for the last.
Danielle Wilson hoa fees are an extra tax. When looking at a mortgage payment, typically for a 30 year mortgage, an hoa of a one hundred dollars is equivalent to 100k in price difference. So generally, you pay more per square foot than a single family.
Theres a term i’ve coined for people that hate when you and yours are smiling and laughing: *A Rug Puller* Rug Pullers will do anything they can to take the smile off your face and stop your laughter. A win for them is you going to an opposite emotion: sadness, fear and anger. Don’t let them win. If its someone you must have in your life set boundaries and dont tell them about anything going on in your life. They use information as ammo in this battle.
