@@truthinspector6390 Six months is when a baby learns to crawl and also when the swim classes start for that but sometimes a baby might have a disability that prevents them from doing much except crawl. Or, maybe they scheduled the classes and the baby just so happens to fall in before then.
@@truthinspector6390 But is someone who is not your child falls in before learning to swim, you are liable under criminal law in most states for allowing a public danger to exist on your property. it is you, not the HOA that goes to jail. Keep the fence, find a lawyer, win the case on the grounds of public safety.
We live in an HOA neighborhood and the majority of the people here are really nice, but there's this one woman living here who regularly drives around looking at people's property for things she can report to the HOA. Needless to say, she's not exactly popular.
Adrian Greene exact situation with my sister! at her house HOA’s literally reached over her backyard fence to take a picture of her weeds and told her to pull them out. disgusting what some of them will do
@@maremacd yes. There are some HOAs that cost $600 a month to tell you what you can and cannot do. They provide nothing else. Just have to pay the fees to live in the neighborhood.
I just could never understand how we ever got to a point in this country where you can buy a piece of land, put a house on it and an HOA can tell you what to do with it.
Also because people bought into the idea that private HOAs makes govt smaller because all the rule making and enforcement will be transferred to the HOA. The problem is that the Constitution protects you from govt but not from private companies like HOAs.
And this right here is exactly why I would never ever live in a home that has a HOA. There’s no way in hell somebody’s going to tell me what I can and cannot do with my own home.
“ agree...however living in Houston tx it's impossible to find a home in a decent neighborhood without having a HOA” Hahaha you guys don’t get it at all! It is the HOA that keeps the neighborhood a “decent place” to begin with.
In my country we don't have anything like an HOA, but I think its purpose is to prevent the neighbourhood property value to decrease. Not 100% sure tho
@@leenaz8356 Theres many things that can decrease a property's value... like it being near a river or the sea. If flooding in common the houses in the area will be cheap.
@@Kat-mu8wq that makes sense, but what confuses me are things like fences or door colors for example. Why or how do these things decrease property value of neighbouring houses?
HOA's started in the 1950's. They were originally formed to save the home owners time and money with trash and snow removal, lawn care, etc... But over time HOA's became bureaucratic and now they are downright authoritarian!
She said it perfectly; the HOA is more concerned with their kangaroo rules and policies rather than the humans who live there and the enjoyment of their own property. Common sense should rule the day not power hungry tyrants.
My husband and I were looking at places and the first thing I said to every realtor we saw was "don't even bother showing us houses in HOA neighborhoods. Nobody but nobody is gonna tell me what I'm gonna do with my property
i posted this before on other videos like this. When I hired a realtor, the number one thing I told them was "NO HOAs!!!!" Third house she showed us was in a HOA. I asked her what part of NO HOAs did she not understand, then fired her on the spot.
@@katavia4131 if you signed a contract when you bought the house, you're legally bound to their ridiculous rules and grabs for power. I would never, ever, ever, ever buy a house or condo that had an HOA
NEVER EVER live where there is an HOA!!! My brother got wrote up for having his motor home in his driveway while loading it to go on vacation!! He doesn't park it there on a regular basis, just to get ready to leave on vacation!! HOA's are a bunch of bs!!
@@Prettygurl420 HOA Scam quality depends on people. "Defects in your property can be repaired cheerfully by our relatives & friends for a small fee...." Haight-Ashbury Real Estate Development Inc, San Francisco, Ca
Actually, people with landlords get away with even more than these poor homeowners. They claim squatters' rights and have more entitlement to the home than the owners. HOAs don't have to follow any rules, they just make their own up as they please, then tell the homeowners later, after they think their "law" has been broken. Just grown up high-school bullies.
After recently becoming president of my HOA, I saw the BS the previous board pulled…unfairly targeting people they did not like and making them spend $$$. Lucky, by getting to peek behind the curtain, gaining access to past documentation the Board hid from residents, I was able to right some wrongs. Some people feel they are running their own country. This is why people NEED to be involved.
@@nickdeliso7026Then you ban them from the neighborhood. Or ban them to be in the HOA. Then they cannot become members again since they are not in it anymore.
@@observantowl5568 If you had a nice car that runs and you were told you to get another, that may be more expensive, to replace it would you? First off that would make a dent in your finances. That itself can set a lot or some people back. Second there might not be a way for you to recover your loss because the old car might not sell for as much if it even sells at all. Third you ever hear the saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it." The fence they have already does it's job. It technically doesn't need to be replaced. It's still up, doesn't have holes or broken parts, ETC.
@@observantowl5568 Did you know you can talk to people without being rude? I don't understand why so many people have been rude lately. I remember when I could have civilized conversations with people. You may think it's stupid but last week I saw a vid describing something similar to my example.
@@yokootersmellfunky Precisely. It's absolutely discrimination when the rules are a case by case basis. Odds are they wanted the house and were planning a variety of ways to harass them for cash or the house. HOAs should all be banned universally and anyone profiting from them fined and jailed.
I have a friend whose on an hoa board. We drove her young daughter to a particular homeowners house for a costume party in the neighborhood. She said they were battling the homeowners over their fence. She only mentioned all this because i commented how i LOVED the wooden fence planks that was housed in black wrought iron with lovely ivy type wrought iron decorations from top to bottom. Was beautiful! I looked at her and said shes stupid. Lol ive know her for over 40 years so i could say that.
Yet another HOA making a problem where there isn’t one. Don’t get rid of the pool fence, get rid of the HOA. Quit buying in HOA’s and they will quit making them. Usually full of Little people on power trips, never a good thing.
Lord Acton was correct about power. It does horrible things to people. I never had any so I can't say. But I've seen people change after getting even very small amounts of power. Its an evil thing power is.
@@smartazz61 True words. Power seems to attract those who seek to abuse it. Some go into politics with morality, but they have to shed that...like a snake sheds it's skin...🐍
I owned a house with an HOA, once. Never again. My first question when looking at a property is whether or not there is an HOA. If yes, that is an absolute deal killer.
zombie wire they’re allowed to have a safety fence. The issue is they took it upon themselves to have an unapproved type of fence installed. Everything that can be seen from the street needs to be approved. 1.)They never got approval and 2.) didn’t bother to choose a fence that meets the hoa standards. None of this would be going on had they followed two simple rules.
@@glintoflightonbrokenglass9473 How do you know that they're not being harassed? How do you know that their pool fence wasn't put up before the rule was put into place and isn't grandfathered in? Just because someone doesn't cry to the news doesn't mean they're not dealing with the same problem.
@@unapologeticallyamy9031 First, I watched the video. Did you? If so, you should watch it again and take notes. Second, they're not on the news. Third, go back and watch the video.
@BIG R Too bad they always devolve into nitpicking over something petty like someone's shutters getting sun faded and no longer being in code so they absolutely *must* be fined for it.
The moment when a HOA member came and told me that I cannot hang clothes for sun drying inside my room was when I knew something was wrong with these people, I am saving resources and making use of sun power to dry my clothes and here they come putting up notice on mt house door and second when I lost my nerve was when my friend's house door knob couldn't be changed to their liking snd it had to look similar to other house to keep it aesthetic!!! Seriously??? What's wrong!
The HOA used to cause a lot of problems in my neighborhood, too. Then a gangster caused massive destruction to the HOA building. Ever since then, it's as if there is no longer an HOA, because, they never do anything any longer. Our neighborhood lives in complete peace now, with no more harassments.
Petition all neighbors to remove all the HOA members, replace them with sensible members from the neighborhood, and remove the stupid rules they made. And do as the lawyer said, sue them first so once they lose in court they can pay for your court fees.
I lived in an HOA community partly while in my teen years. The head of the association would just enter your backyard or come in your house because he “has the right” as head of the community. And we couldn’t have more than one car parked outside the garage. Hence, my parents moved us
I used to say the same thing, and if possible, it's still my opinion. However, I moved from OKC down to San Antonio area and I can tell you that there are hardly ANY communities which are not in a HOA these days. It is very difficult to find a non-HOA area.
@@VaporheadATC I’m in San Antonio as well and I know exactly what you’re talking about. If you want to have freedom with your property, you’re moving into the country! I don’t know of any neighborhoods besides the projects where there isn’t an HOA.
I am sorry that you feel that way. My development and it's HOA is fantastic. See we have people here that read the CC&R's before they bought a $1M home and comply with the rules. It's that simple. Don't paint your brick/stone house purple, don't put a boat/trailer in your backyard, don't build a tin shed in your backyard, cut the grass, put your trash cans out of sight. It's really not that hard to have a beautiful neighborhood.
Sometimes you don't have a choice. Even if there isn't an HOA on your home when you purchased it. In some states should a platted sub vote to put one in & they get at least 80% vote for it, your home now is legally under an HOA whether you like it or not. In Michigan, that's the law.
@@conniegrosser1679 You must mean, "rich". It pisses me off that everyone thinks _everyone_ has an option. I would need a lot more money to afford _any_ place without an HOA, in my current state of Colorado. But, that's why I'm moving back to my home state, where HOA's aren't everyfuckingwhere and the sale of my 800 sq. ft. home will buy a 2000 sq. ft. one, with plenty of change left over.
@@2xtreem4u Yes, under the scenario I had outlined, Your home is subject to association rules. If they include an annual due that goes unpaid, they can put a lean on your home. I don't know if all states do this. I used to be a Realtor in Michigan & I can assure you, if 80% of your platted sub vote it in, your house is included.
It’s basically down to the language in the HOA. The one thing In this story that’s getting twisted is that the HOA is saying you can’t have a fence around the pool, they are saying they have particular types of fences to ensure neighborhood esthetics. This is the good and bad of HOA’s. If the HOA says corner lots are required a particular fence then that’s up to the owner to know that, if the HOA verbiage is not specific to the lot type and requirements of pool versus yard then the owners should file a lawsuit.
There is a reason why there are so many HOA now. People no longer respect their neighbors now. Without an HOA even in upper scale neighborhoods you get lazy crazy neighbors that destroy property value.
@@alexandercrush HOAs are a cancer on society. Doesn’t matter what anyone says, I purchased the land and the house and will do with it as I see fit. No one has more rights to my property than me.
@@xdizzle0460 true, but I’ll never sign a contract with any HOA. They are cancerous. There is also many stories about HOAs creating new rules even after the contract was signed. If I signed a contract that provision that allowed them to change the terms of the agreement would be null and void.
Never, Ever, Never, Never Ever, buy a home with a HOA. I bought a home and stayed in it six months, before I had had enough. They are policemen without badges and robbers without guns! Run Away Fast!
This is what happens when you move to a ritzy neighbourhood like that lol ppl life in a fantasy world and have nothing better to do in life but complain about petty things lol
Knew a guy who said his HOA hopped his fence to cut his yard while he was on a business trip and sent him a bill for about $200. He sold the house with a huge loss.
Nobody should ever buy a home in an HOA. I guess if you don't want any control over your property, but I like having the freedom to do what I want with what I own.
@@TheAntiqBoutiq n sadly a iron fence is too wide for a pool fence.. it's all good hoa made error saying she has a privacy fence when it's clearly a pool fence.. obviously with her house size money is not an issue..
Suddenly every HOA member gets billed an equal portion of what is owed, and everyone wants to give her the boot even more. There really isnt much of a win here, which is probably why these board members are so keen on this wierd, extra stupid flex.
I feel the same way.... I live in the middle of a town in Missouri. I'll be damned if ANYBODY tells me what I can or can not do in my own yard....wether it's legal or not...
So much for being ‘free’ and ‘my freedom’. In Australia it is a mandatory requirement that every pool has a pool fence installed. Pool fences save many, many lives each year. HOA boards are simply a power trip for weak a/holes.
Why is it that everyone always sees everything as a personal attack? It's very clear this isn't personal, in fact it's a very specific complaint addressed in their HOA covenants. There's another family with a similar lot with the same issue with the HOA. This is about a different rule for a corner lot than for other lots. The two families need to get together and encourage a vote of the homeowners to change that part of their HOA covenants.
I don't know who's in the right regarding whether they can or can't require the fence to be replaced, but I can tell you that the fence around the home owner's pool looks like it came from Wal-Mart. I might expect to see it around an above ground swimming pool, but not around a nice pool in a nice looking neighborhood. How can they even enjoy the pool with parts of it only a couple of feet from the pool's edge?
@@bretak74 it’s literally in their backyard and it’s conforming to standard pool fences like other one have. It be a different story if they built one themselves with ugly wood picket fences or something. HOA is known to personally attack certain homeowners and once she sue, they will change that rule cause the obvious have a winning case.
The bad ones usually do deals with companies to get %. So they force the entire neighbors get new paint and then get kickbacks from the paint company. Same with tiles and everything else. And if you don’t use the the company they refer you run into these problems.
If you would had listen clearly, that HOA did not say that they could not have a fense around their pool, it is the type of fense that they require. That family already was aware of the rules when they bought their house and I do not feel sorry for them.
@@patricksaxon3983 And if you'd listened carefully you would have heard that the fence was installed when the house was built and that other houses, including another corner plot, have the same fence but haven't been told to replace/remove it. You're stupid and I do feel sorry for you.
The government cannot ban free association. I wouldn't live in an HOA either, but nobody stuck a gun to their head and said "buy this property with an HOA". There are plenty of areas to live in that don't have an HOA.
But it IS NOT your property. Buying into an HOA is almost always a long-term lease, and one of the terms allows the HOA to set limits on your use of their property.
yeah BUT people who are buying homes need to do their research. HOA is design to keep out certain races they don't want among the whites exclusive for the privileges'
Which is weird to me, because HOAs are just miniature versions of the socialist utopia that Dem voters claim to want. They hate the sample but still want to buy the full product. I don't get it.
@@jakexie7149 exactly what I thought when I seen the first comment on this thread. I was gunna reply but I was like…nah. Not trying to feed into negativity 😂
@@AtarahDerek Its not really similar to socialism. We definitely agree that HOAs often are shite and cause more problems than good, but typically they are run by elected members. Most HOAs are way more similar to existing political structures in America than socialism (IE characterized by a constant power struggle and political maneuvering to force opponents into submission - no interest in compromise)
This is what you get when you agree to purchase a house that has a homeowners association. They are not there for you they are there for property value and to roll over your life.
Not all HOA’s are like that. When we moved in our new home the fence was after the kids bedroom windows we sent a request to the HOA to move the fence for safety of the kids. They approved in less than 24hrs. That family just needs to sue them, safety always comes first. Knowing your HOA committee and attending those meetings they are recorded and asking them face to face whether the fence is more important than the death of your child puts them in a liable spot.
Yep my cat fell in once too after that scare I got a fence up straight up and I would fight tooth and nail if someone told me I had to take it down, no way would I risk animals or other people’s lives just for some idiots who are worried about their community’s aesthetic
@@maxsdad538 excuse me what? I’m literally the owner of my pets, never again after that fence went up did my cat or any other animal under my care have any close calls I don’t know what you classify as an “excuse” but my reason for putting up the fence was because I have a duty of care to other living creatures do not for a moment assume you know more about a stranger’s life than they do themselves. And as for your other comment yes some dogs cannot swim and you could express a bit of empathy to OP as they did nearly loose their beloved pet and. once again you’re assuming to know more about another’s life when you clearly do not, stop doing that it makes you look like a pompous idiot.
The HOA, should get a liability agreement that HOA will be liable for any death, accident or claim against homeowners... if they are forced to remove pool fence.
They don't need a liability agreement. The letter forcing them to remove the fence relieves them of the responsibility and places it squarely upon the shoulders of the HOA.
Alright, who’s petty Betty wants people to drown? Karen come get your grandma. I grew up in HOA neighborhoods and my dad got in trouble for mowing the lawn without a shirt..so you know what he did? Mowed it with cut-off short shorts, timberlands, a yellow vest and a bright yellow sun hat lmao no complaints after that!
Only time HOAs make sense are attached homes/apartment houses that share a continuously lot. I dated someone who was on an HOA board and he was as dramatic and ridiculous as they seem.
Well that contradicts the already established Right of Association, so i'm guessing you must be a "rights are cool as long i agree with them" trumpster
Pool fence is not an eyesore, it adds value to the property? HOA needs to mind their own business. Homeowners purchased and paid for their own property. Hoa needs to stay out of everybody's business unless crime is involved. Who died and gave them the right to control what people can do with their property. They need to stop collecting nonsense yearly HOA fees from residents in the subdivision. What do they do with the money they collect from everyone, every year? It's not for neighborhood property maintenance or installing fence. Or security system. They really need to stop minding people's business. HOA is the neighborhood government! Don't buy homes in Hoa subdivision, they put liens on people's house . Fees are ridiculous, $800 a year for amenities. For what special features or benefit (for the subdivision resident)? Most of the time, 95 % of the people in the subdivision don't use the amenities that they offer. They built these amenities without asking the residents and slap the cost onto everybody. That lives in the subdivision. I can't beleve how everybody just accept one group of people to boss everyone around in their own subdivision and tell everyone what they can and cannot do with their home and property after they buy the property with their hard earned money. Your house and the land is a constant collateral (if you default on the Hoa fees). The land your house sits on is never yours after you pay off the house. If you default on yearly property tax that never goes away (a lien gets attached to the house). We don't need another form of government in the neighborhood, who is constantly watching you and your house 365 days a year (24/7). People buy house, don't harass homeowners. What they do with their prperty is not your business. Let them enjoy what they have achieved with their hard earned money. Everybody needs to vote the HOA out of their communities.
Depending on the cost of a new fence, it may be lawyer time. Whichever is cheaper. I wouldn't be removing a child safety device from my home. Nope. Not until the kids are old.
First year after we bought our house in an HOA, the 2 trees in the front yard that were planted by the builder died. I left them there because you are "required" to have 2 trees in your front yard according to HOA rules. When they sent me a letter saying I needed to replace the trees with 2 trees at a cost of $300 each, I said I have 2 trees. They said the trees have to be alive. I said show me in the rules where it says "alive."
I’d legit pull the race card if I was her, and I’d tell the hoa either crack down on everyone or expect a lawsuit for discrimination as its unjust to single one person out when many are breaking their rules
@@burgertime222 i wouldn’t say it’s false, it’s entirely possible that this is a race issue, especially considering the other home with a pool fence isn’t being hassled.
@@clipp7777 honestly if where you want to move had anything to say on what you do on your land, you shouldn’t live there. Why pay all that money just to have to deal with other peoples opinions
It's more older retirees or semi-retired people. For certain though, it's people who enjoy being able to push other people around and tell them what to do. Sadly, the opposite type just never tries to get on HOA boards so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy sort of thing.
i have a 5th scenario. since they are so adamant in having the fence removed, and since it's there for safety, have the hoa board members and officials held personally responsible if any deaths or accident occurs after the removal of the safety fence
My friends bought a house in a gated Tampa community two years ago. Two days after they moved in, they received a notice from the HOA in their name about "stains" on the driveway. Same stains pretty much every other house on the block had from trees. It was the most absurd thing I have ever seen. :-/
We found the house that fit our needs perfectly with many pluses. We looked at the property on two more occasions. Just before submitting a bid, we discovered the community had an HOA. Nope! I will NEVER move into a community being run by an HOA!!
That's not a law, the insurance company just refused to cover if they didn't have a pool fence. This doesn't mean they have to have the fence by law, just to get it insured. Source: I have an insurance license
BlackEquinox - That's incorrect, it's the highly visible (corner lot) units that need a more presentable fence. They can still have a fence, it just can't be the cheesy plastic.
I know of a home owner in a very exclusive neighborhood in Houston, who installed a side door and was told he needed to remove it. After a long battle with them, he had to remove it but he painted his home in ridiculous colors, purple, chartreuse, pink. It was such an eyesore!!! Turns out, they did not have any rules regarding house color 😝
The U.S. is weird. Constantly complaining about the government touching "muh freedoms". But also establish HOAs to micromanage every aspect of your largest investment.
I just watched another one where they wanted the trees down to see a playground... pretty much all I learned is that the HOA want access to your property.
campkira I think a helicopter is more likely than a drone. As with a drone people would be likely to harass the operator then a helicopter hovering in the sky. Although a drone would be more cost effective.
