Family EV Top Trumps! Tesla Model Y LR v Skoda Enyaq iv80 v Hyundai Ioniq 5 p45. Which is best? 

I also have the ultimate AWD. Missed a trick not scoring for coolness factor. ie. drive each car for a week and count how many strangers stop you wanting to talk about your car. Ioniq wins easy.😄

Don't know what people have with the button. I actually think it fits quit perfectly. I don't want the car to go into a ready mode just because I got in. I want to have the choice if it should turn on, go into accessory state or drive mode. Pressing a button is really no inconvenience at all, because then you could start arguing about why we have to put our seatbelt on, even care a key of any kind (including phone) with us etc. (btw I think the genesis has face unlock ^^)

Tempted to order one in the same spec how is it holding up?

But what about all the dirt and grime that build up on the rear window ?

Not applicable in snow or when it is so cold that rain turns into ice at contact, or with trucks throwing mud and snow at it. It either rear wiper or rear mirror camera. Deal breaker for me. New Ioniq conceded and they have now one rear wiper

Yer and don’t forget reliable battery heating before rapid charging so even in - c. You still get good charging speed unlike the slow charging Ioniq by looks of peoples videos and the Tesla stuff just works great and constant updates like features it didn’t have when you buy it and ability to add stuff like eap after buy the car if you so wish and for us the best blend of driver fun speed and efficiently is a win for us after trying both others and ev6 and id3 but would have cupra born over id3 and ev6 over Ioniq 5 . But like was said so like bits when others hate bits it upto the people to decide what if most important.

latest ionics fast charging. also personal view by far the best looking

@@mattjarrett8868 cool so that finally got around to it in the end

I said the same thing watching the video - as everything outside of the Tesla network is a complete joke in the UK, an horrendous experience of dozens of different manufacturers with dodgy apps and broken interfaces, broken payment methods and way too many broken chargers. It's nothing but pain and suffering trying to charge on a long journey outside the Tesla supercharger network - it's just so bad in the UK that it makes owning an EV that isn't a Tesla a waste of time if you ever want to do a long journey. Tesla has opened a handful of charging sites up to non Tesla's but it's only a small number and then many cars have issues as the Tesla supercharger cables are very short as they are designed for, unsurprisingly, Tesla's.

@@blower1Word is Tesla will make their chargers available to other Ev's...eventually.

That's a good point but like most things, it's very user specific. We only charge at home and never need the public charge network. Also with the increase in teslas on the road, there have been queues at some of the busier tesla chargers.

I have had zero issues with ABRP, gives more functionality than the tesla nav and when you're in an area with no superchargers it gives you options like ionity, porsche (my new favourites), fastned etc etc

@@blower1 I agree. We have an i3 120Ah which is fine for 95% of our trips, charging at home. It is fun to drive and small enough to make it easy to park etc. We also have an ICE for our occasional long trips and tip runs but the total > 180m mile trips we do these days does not make it worth having a long range large EV. As you say, there is no way I would want to rely on the non-Tesla public charging network in the UK. I base this on the queues I now see at motorway services and the number of "not working" flags on ZapMap

Not needed on a Tesla. It never gets any spray on it and in 2000 miles 300 in torrential rain, it never needed cleaning.

@Keith Denton the i5 does suffer as its a hatchback style. Whereas the tesla has very different geometry and does properly clear rain. I found the i5 to be a disaster of a design without a rear wiper.

You got your wish, 2025

Was the Skoda smaller than Ioniq?

I had a deposit down on the ioniq5 and didn’t go ahead because the price relative to the Uk was about $10-$15k more. Didn’t buy on principle. In nz Hyundai is more expensive than Kia EV6 and that’s the opposite everywhere else. Now I know about the efficiency I’m glad I went Model Y…although I miss car play!

Interesting. My M3 seats are the most comfortable I've ever sat in. They make long journeys a breeze.

@@richardthomas6875 as they say you need to get out more.

Tesla makes their own seats. The others farm production out.

Totally agree. I have the latest Model Y and my old model 3 headlights worked much better. My 7 year old Ford Mondeo had better auto lights and auto wipers than both of them.

Strange ... My Model Ys wipers and headlights are fine .... still early days for TESLA though, great to see an EV line up at this stage to easily challenge the current ICE market and more to come !

@@troyboy4345 My experience of the auto wipers has been mostly ok, but I’ve heard that even the slightest dirt or bug splatter around the cameras can cause it to dry wipe. You can’t turn off auto wipers on Autopilot with the latest updates either. Auto headlights are woeful though, coming on in areas of decent ambient lighting from streetlights, not turning off quickly enough when faced with oncoming cars (~2 seconds blinding them is unacceptable), and not seeing distant rear red lights on another car before you’re too close (again blinding them). Mine also have a habit of turning off at reflections off road signs from time to time. Shambolic. I’ve also heard of people on dual carriageways where they come on and blind the other side. There’s no reason for them to be so hopeless in this day and age. I’m not expecting German high end lighting, but a level of performance where I don’t have to hover-hand the stalk and be continually embarrassed at blinding people would be nice.

I have a facelift MS. The matrix headlights on that are not a patch on my previous car - a 12 year old BMW 530 touring. They both light the way nicely when you turn a corner, but the straight ahead lighting is just disappointing on the MS. It didn't help that they came woefully adjusted from Tesla as a used purchase, but even adjusted they are a bit 'meh'.

My 2010 c class has better auto wipers than my 22 m3, m3 lights are much better though, but then there are 12 years difference between the two cars.

Hi Jon you make some interesting points and you’ve obviously done a ton of research Can I just ask you the range of the iconic compare to the model y long range seems surprisingly good I found this baffling because the iconic looks not good aerodynamically Do you have any light to shed on this could it be battery chemistry or is there something I’m missing much appreciate your response in advance thanks Kelvin

I am Sorry but model y is so Ugly .

Can be positive but also be a negative if you look at what they’ve done to the radar

Can you please tell me what you found annoying? I am thinking of buying one my self

@dreamer-Ba as mentioned, I think the i5 is a good car. However, I live in the UK and no rear wiper on a hatchback geometry will be really annoying for 4-6 months of the year. On my test drive I couldn't see through the rear window at all when the sun hit it at any angle. Many are not bothered by this, but I found it really annoying. The door handles are annoying. I don't like the tesla ones either, but they seem worse than the tesla ones. You have to explain to someone who's never been in the car how they work and my parents who have arthritis would need me to get out and open the door every time. I couldn't just pull over and pick them up. Even the ones that auto pop out are not very good when they get frozen in the winter. I'm just not a fan of flush handles. They are a solution to a problem that doesn't exist and just create new and unnecessary problems. I was only being offered a matt gold paint, which was more expensive, and makes maintenance/repair more difficult and expensive. The speedo was partially obscured by the steering wheel with no way to move it. Its off to one side but i think it should be in the centre where its clearly visible. The arrangement seems to have been designed to look good rather than be useful. The turning circle is not very good compared to the Enyaq. The large battery was still not very big and hyundai seemed uncertain if they were going to make it bigger in the UK market. The boot was noticeably smaller than the Enyaq and we have lots of camping gear. None of these was a show stopper by themselves, but add them up and put a 50k price tag on it and I wasn't happy. When I looked at the Enyaq it had none of these annoyances and it was the same price. On the plus side, I did like the drive in the i5 and it does feel more futuristic than the enyaq. I know lots of people rave about them, but for 50k I didn't want lots of little annoyances. As a family car the Enyaq was much better for us and having had it for 2 months now, I know I made the right choice. Many people wouldn't be at all bothered by things I've mentioned, so the i5 will be the right car for them. Its VERY subjective. You need to test drive them all and others if you have the time. I forgot the other thing I don't like about the i5 was the auto steer. It felt like it was always hunting. Just gently rocking continuously left and right. By contrast the Enyaq self driving was perfect.

My enyaq came with 3.1 installed. All the trips we've done so far have been within single charge range. I have to say I've found the built in NAV just fine. Is it only trips that require a charge stop where you don't like the in built NAV or for all trips? Have you used 3.1 and if so, do you still not like the NAV?

@@Notagain640 still on 2.4 so the nav will ignore say a 350 kW charger and insist you use a 7kW charger just because it's closer. It's utter garbage

@Enyaq Gorm - simply clever EV I've watched all your videos (which I've really enjoyed). Watching your experience of planning routes using abrp has been very informative. As I don't use the charging aspect of route planning, I don't know if its improved in 3.1 or not. I'll be interested to see your option of it when you get a chance to review it. But until then it's good to have the option of ABRP. Would I need to use an OBD dongle or can you just run the app. Also for infrequent use (3 or 4 times a year) can you get away without a subscription?

@@Notagain640 you can either use obd or link it to tronity. Both work well to read the car state of charge. Not sure if you need the sub to get it on android auto though. Glad the videos are useful, they take a bit of time to make so it's always nice to hear they've helped someone 😊

Yep, and going to 84 2025

See that’s the point isn’t it. It’s the other way around for me so it’s very subjective!

@@RSEV I would kill for more supportive seats in the M3P. The fact it has identical seats to all of the other trims is strange but in keeping with Tesla value engineering. I had a Peugeot e-2008 GT that was more supportive! I’m quietly hoping there will be a major refresh of the 3, with more supportive seats etc in the P. Ludicrous maybe? Needs relocated cameras for 360 view and better unprotected turn visibility, etc. It’s a pretty old platform now, over 4 years.

Same here. MY22. 12v in rear left corner of boot.

I've tested the Model Y and it's quite noisy. I have yet to test the other cars.

But for a family car how much more power do you need above 70? I don't drive mine over 60, no point.

@@Notagain640 If nothing else, then for safety. It is better to have the option of deciding between acceleration or deacceleration. If you only have braking is an option it may cause an accident.

@Arpedk I used to ride a 200mph motorbike, and back then I used to say that the power can get you into trouble, but can also get you out of it. However I don't feel that way in car. The enyaq seems plenty quick enough and I don't get myself or allow others to put me in a situation where accelerating hard above 70 mph is required to improve safety. But a guess we all have our own driving styles.

Expensive. Luxury brands overcharge with little value added. Comparing the ix3 with any of these it just does not make sense, unless you are a bmw fan. The car is great, I drove it, but the price is just not worth it when you get these options. With these brands when you do get a noticeable difference in ride experience, you pay almost double what these non-premiums cost.

@@marius4iasi I agree, I have driven the Model Y, Ioniq 5, EV6, and even though they all are full of tech, none of them have the same ride comfort and sound isolation when compared to the iX3. To some people that is a very important factor. Is it worth the extra 10-20k? Maybe, maybe not!

not sure what this is lol