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Fanny Kelly Meets Mary Boyeau, Another Sioux Captive from the 1862 Minnesota Massacre (ep. 12) 

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Fanny Kelly meets a woman who had been captured during these 1862 attacks, and was still held prisoner in 1864.
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@keitoth9697
@keitoth9697 Год назад
I appreciate that we get to hear accounts that expalin the reality that Native Americans were not enlightened, serene people. I spent most of my life believing that the Native Americans were very noble. I felt that the settlers were selfish and the U.S. government was stadistic. This woman's story and other people's accounts provide a glimpse into why there was fear, disgust and hatred towards Native Americans. It was complicated. For those who feel that the evil acts that the Native Americans were justified, you should consider this, the Native American tribes were pillaging, enslaving and harming eachother long before the European invasion. Ironically, it was just that the Europeans had the technology and orgaiization to pull off a full blown genocide in the way that some (not all) the Native Americans only dreamed of. Native Americans have been brutilizing eachother for centuries. The Aztecs as well as the Inca would enslave, brutilize, plunder and perform human sacrifices with the smaller, less powerful neaby tribes.
@russellhogan2708
@russellhogan2708 Год назад
This sounds like the typical justification for “manifest destiny” genocide & is similar to simplistic justifications for slavery in America. We could’ve/should’ve done better.
@blackpowder4016
@blackpowder4016 Год назад
@@Leslie-es5ij It was their culture. He's correct the they raided each other's villages, massacred enemies when they could, took captives, and kept slaves long before Europeans arrived.
@monicadabney8471
@monicadabney8471 Год назад
Very good. Truthbomb.
@Sheysheyshy
@Sheysheyshy Год назад
Where are you coming from? 🤔.
@leighblacklocke7190
@leighblacklocke7190 Год назад
Study and logic have proved your assessment to be true. Well said, and thank you.
@kathleenreis1883
@kathleenreis1883 Год назад
I get such a kick out of your unpretentious delivery of these stories. The stories are fascinating and I find myself addicted to them. And each time I hear you narrate a story I think "what an honest, down to earth, knowledgeable person". Thank you. You are truly unique.
@karenhill3970
@karenhill3970 Год назад
Get a kick" out of murder , torture,& savage s.....😠
@kathleenreis1883
@kathleenreis1883 Год назад
@@karenhill3970No "Karen", I get a kick out of his delivery of the stories. Take time to read before showing your ignorance.
@pimpompoom93726
@pimpompoom93726 Год назад
So much for the image of the noble savage, there were brutes among them just like any other group.
@martinhanley9524
@martinhanley9524 Год назад
Not if you watch pbs and listen to not all day long
@pimpompoom93726
@pimpompoom93726 Год назад
@@martinhanley9524 Don't watch PBS or any of the other woke channels, they report to promote their narrative and not factually.
@wdcurry111
@wdcurry111 Год назад
It's been like that ever since the fall. It's good to know history, bless Mr. Worthy.
@jodiescarcega1924
@jodiescarcega1924 Год назад
It was the white man coming to take their land away from them I think you would willing to kill for it . I think they were peaceful people at the beginning.
@pimpompoom93726
@pimpompoom93726 Год назад
@Jumpin’ Jimimy I like history without agendas, just give me the facts. Hollywood movies are entertaining, but not very good history.
@flintlockhomestead460
@flintlockhomestead460 Год назад
I give greater credence to Fanny Kelly's story than the speculations of some half witted intellectual interested in making an academic name for himself.
@Joe-rr3ip
@Joe-rr3ip Год назад
No one doubts the accuracy of captive interviews. Native Americans were not peaceful but spent their leisure killing and scalping each other. Everything needs to be put in perspective. They had no chance against the white throng, losing their way of life and land. It was inevitable that they were reduced to their present condition. A condition which the victors cannot assuage, but only look on with pity.
@v.m.8472
@v.m.8472 Год назад
I agree!
@susanhanna940
@susanhanna940 Год назад
What crap-
@laurencefox5884
@laurencefox5884 Год назад
Or indeed a childish troll trying to impress his little friends...
@Julia29853
@Julia29853 Год назад
Or trying to rewrite history such that all minorities= angels, all white people = evil which is what kids are being taught in public schools, I mean indoctrination camps
@nettiewolverinethunderbird8341
What a descriptive writer and well read. I'm enjoying
@Loobylooto2
@Loobylooto2 Год назад
Oh my goodness, it’s 3.38am here and I’m transfixed by this story! Thank you 🙏🏼
@cw4608
@cw4608 Год назад
The eloquence of the writer is amazing, especially when compared to the ability of we moderns in conveying thoughts and recollections.
@alicel3992
@alicel3992 Год назад
True, very true. How English is supposed to be spoken.
@emilyburton4095
@emilyburton4095 Год назад
of us moderns. Cheers.
@wesleyestill7653
@wesleyestill7653 Год назад
Thank you for sharing this story, a different version of the trail of tears.
@William-Marshall
@William-Marshall Год назад
One will never know what we are capable of until we are that particular situation. We have more strength we think .
@avalondreaming1433
@avalondreaming1433 Год назад
Oh yes! I have learned this. We do what we have to do.
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
@NVMVNV Well put.
@j.b.4340
@j.b.4340 Год назад
Have you ever read the story of the “Fool Soldiers”? Largely forgotten, It’s one of the most incredible, and selfless, acts in American history, and was accomplished by young Dakotas. My wife’s ancestor, a Dakota chief (The Buck) helped the group by giving them horses, food, and the only cart in that part of South Dakota. The captives were taken by the Santee, in ‘62. Julia Wright, and Emma Duley were two.
@unworthyhistory
@unworthyhistory Год назад
Yes, hoping to do another episode on the Fool Soldiers, and focusing more on Mrs. Wright and Mrs. Duley.
@patriciajrs46
@patriciajrs46 Год назад
You mean they were two years old? They wouldn't have been married women if that's the case.
@donnariley2831
@donnariley2831 Год назад
​@@patriciajrs46 Seriously?! You're joking, right?
@bettyjo7114
@bettyjo7114 Год назад
Follow the river❤️
@sandrad9695
@sandrad9695 Год назад
@NVMVNV I haven’t seen you post any facts, just the same little jokes over and over. But, hey, I gotta compliment you. Your copy and paste game is strong.
@tphvictims5101
@tphvictims5101 Год назад
Once again, Excellent Content and Great Narrative skills. Excellent
@GenXstacker
@GenXstacker Год назад
Here's the real history that should be taught in our public school system.
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
Real history. It’s been taught for generations, which is why this one-sided narrative passes as history for some.
@lambastepirate
@lambastepirate Год назад
As always a great story thanks,
@angelartistic3056
@angelartistic3056 Год назад
Please change the name to Worthy History! Don't disparage this channel its too excellent!
@cplmpcocptcl6306
@cplmpcocptcl6306 Год назад
It’s just a play on his name.
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
@NVMVNV Exactly.
@tonyholt90
@tonyholt90 Год назад
Really interesting to hear , thanks for sharing your information 👍
@karenhill3970
@karenhill3970 Год назад
This depresses me to no end .... Being fr Texas we grew up hearing these horror stories My Granmom never got over some other horrible incedents related to Her by Her parents
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
Apparently it happened on both sides. Blame the Colonial powers using sellers like pawns despite knowing exactly the kind of environment they sent them into. It was being used to stoke animosity for the nations already there and sympathy for settlers in the media. They were often sitting ducks and the leaders recruiting them used them as ‘cannon fodder.
@retirementbootcampoff-grid237
To hear of the Indian side of the invasion and conquest of North America, read the letter of Silas Soule, who witnessed the Sand Creek Massacre in eastern Colorado. While Soule directed his men not to fire on the peaceful camp of Chief Black Kettle, other soldiers not under his command scalped and murdered the women, children and elderly Cheyenne and Arapaho, later gleefully parading their scalps and other bloody body parts through the streets of Denver in front of cheering crowds. Thank you for this history of Mary that we should also not forget.
@debrabessette2699
@debrabessette2699 Год назад
It seems to me that all humans throughout history have been savages as they invaded or defended territory.
@daya820
@daya820 Год назад
😢
@patriciajrs46
@patriciajrs46 Год назад
The Sand Creek Massacre, at least part ot it, was told in the movie Last of The Dogmen.
@retirementbootcampoff-grid237
@@patriciajrs46 Heard of this but can't vouch for authenticity. Viewers can look up Charles Bent's account of the massacre, as compiled out of his letters. Charles' Cheyenne mother was married to famous trader William Bent, and Charles happened to be at the camp that day. The letters were archived at the Denver, Colorado library and so this may be the most credible account that exists. Other than Soule's gut-wrenching letter, of course.
@sandrad9695
@sandrad9695 Год назад
Unfortunately, I feel like since the 1990’s, all we have heard is the Indian side of the story. I grew up hearing the reality that were was kindness on both sides and treachery on both sides, so I knew this false narrative for what it was. Sadly, many Millenials and GenZs have only heard the story of the gentle, peaceful Indians who lived wonderful, “green” lives and who were attacked, unprovoked, by the evil white settlers. I’m sick of it. Our forefathers did some wrong to the Indians, but the Indians were largely savages who had completely different values than we have. I’m so thankful that Western culture prevailed. When the American soldiers slaughtered Indians, it was not unprovoked or from simple sadism. It was in reaction to something the Indians did.
@lucillepiktelis4331
@lucillepiktelis4331 Год назад
This has been happening since the beginning of time since the fall in the garden, man's inhumanity two man. Nothing new under the Sun
@mariascudder3277
@mariascudder3277 Год назад
I have a friend who I did her Ancestry for her ....she had a GGG Grandmother who as a child was kidnappped by some Indians , her Father and brother were killed and her mother and another sister were burned alive , she had two other brothers who one was visiting their Gra ndfather and another brother who had been kidnapped two years earlier...this young Girl was ,marched to Chilicothie Ohio from Tenn ..She was held for 4 yrs and was able to escape and was found by a trapper and his wife , they helped get her back to Tenn and got her reunited with her brothers , and Grandfather ,,she married a minister and had three children , but she suffered nightmares the rest of her life , an adult size cradle was made for her to calm her ..
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
Grateful that she had some support, I hope it helped. Considering that the colonial powers knew exactly what they were sending settlers into, they were too often the Advanced Forces. Sad time in history for far too many.
@angela2726
@angela2726 9 месяцев назад
Amazing ! How very hard for her
@pinkiesue849
@pinkiesue849 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing. I believe the government could have done more to help relations between people groups
@shirleybalinski4535
@shirleybalinski4535 Год назад
Wow. How would any of us have reacted to these traumatic events.
@cecilysharrock678
@cecilysharrock678 Год назад
What a story.The majority of Indians seem to have very cold hearts.......no human compassion.
@MG-fr3tn
@MG-fr3tn Год назад
Getting the same results as the rest of humanity. Devision leads to near anilation
@AnitaAnneLloyd
@AnitaAnneLloyd 5 месяцев назад
I have been listening to many of the stories shared on this youtube channel and my oh my! As a South-African, I applaud these AMAZING, STRONG and BRAVE PIONEERS. All of these people, but especially the women and children that lived through hell by being taken captive by Native Americans. THIS is the America we love and come to believe is our world leader, built on the backbone of all these pioneers. May God Bless you all and may God forever smile upon the women and children who suffered at the hands of all these cruel people during these times.
@unworthyhistory
@unworthyhistory 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for listening from South Africa!
@ejdotw1
@ejdotw1 Год назад
You are doing such a superb job with all your videos! I am a historian with 5 fields of emphasis and fully concur with your histories and efforts.
@unworthyhistory
@unworthyhistory Год назад
Excellent, good to hear!
@kerridillon3120
@kerridillon3120 Год назад
I have read Fanny Kelly's book...fascinating!
@granmabern5283
@granmabern5283 Год назад
What a fascinating and useful account of how to deal with locusts!!!
@donnariley2831
@donnariley2831 Год назад
I just found your channel and glad I did! I subscribed too.😊
@shakesalegsometimes9575
@shakesalegsometimes9575 Год назад
I love your unworthy history!
@patriciajrs46
@patriciajrs46 Год назад
If Fanny Kelly made the stories up then why have so many people believed them? Was she rescued? If not, how did her stories get written at all? Please, what year was she supposedly captured? How long was she held captive?
@Julia29853
@Julia29853 Год назад
Yes she was rescued and wrote a book a few years later
@TinaFivesten
@TinaFivesten Год назад
Book of Fanny Kelly's hardship (1871). Listen to more about her, Olive and Mary Ann Oatman, Sarah L. Larimer and Hannah Dustin. Then you can get the real history!
@johnlea8519
@johnlea8519 Год назад
Another excellent video..
@monicadabney8471
@monicadabney8471 Год назад
Glad I found the channel. Subscribed.
@nettiewolverinethunderbird8341
A lot of records were burned down. How dare they say Mary didn't exist.
@tinetahoe
@tinetahoe 5 дней назад
Thanks!
@unworthyhistory
@unworthyhistory 5 дней назад
Thank you!
@2012escapee1
@2012escapee1 Год назад
Maybe research Mary Boyeau in New York where her family lived before Minnesota
@patriciajrs46
@patriciajrs46 Год назад
I was thinking that also.
@sandycee89
@sandycee89 Год назад
These narratives so imperative, so necessary. Without your work the lives of these remarkable ppl, the primal endurance required of plaines life now overcome. Would you have anything what was done when tornados dropped down? Must have been horrible.
@maggiehammer9729
@maggiehammer9729 Год назад
Spirit Lake is in Iowa. It's on the broader. Inkapaduda (Lakota Warrior) was involved in the mascara at Okaboji , near Spirit Lake.
@joyful_tanya
@joyful_tanya Год назад
Minnesota territory then. I have been to Spirit Lake and Lake Okaboji from when I was a child in the 1970s. My dad is a retired college biology teacher. He was teaching at "Lakeside Lab" several summers for sure. It was on Lake Okaboji. My grandparents were from Esterville. But my dad and his brothers were born on a farm in Minnesota, near Walters MN. In my genealogy research some places I know to be in Iowa were recorded as being in "Minnesota territory".
@jerryreed9446
@jerryreed9446 Год назад
The truth was they all was with tribes, and they lied and used trickery on people even back then. Many stories of their own elders stories tells you that. ! And to current . There's real stories still hidden from the public.
@bndergltd3053
@bndergltd3053 Год назад
There were numerous treaties that European settlers/US government made with native people, and they were broken over and over again by the former, so give me a break. It was the whites who couldn’t be trusted.
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
Like colonial powers from Europe and British Isles. Tribes that have been at war with one another constantly until EU agreement. Two world wars in one century. The first men were almost literally sent to their slaughter as military strategy. Stories of their own leaders and scholars. And not all nations were like that. It’s stereotyping. Many who weren’t or helped colonial powers were decimated. Not to mention the genocidal scale of destroying Bison herds to bring plains tribes to their knees. Considering all the treaties made and reneged on. Not to mention outright destruction of whole nations. How would you like another nation coming in to colonize your territory? Oh, wait that’s happening with illegal immigrants that are being employed by businesses. They want it, but the average citizen doesn’t. History repeats itself.
@jimbrew4529
@jimbrew4529 Год назад
@@Ketowski The slaughter of the Buffalo herd was strictly by hunters out for profit. Not a government scheme. Which isn't saying the government didn't know it would hurt the Plains tribes. Market hunters also decimated certain waterfowl populations, until regulations were enacted in the 20th century.
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
The railroads needed the bison out of the way. You’re probably familiar with railroad barons.The decimation of the plains bison as the primary food source was a strategic way to bring the tribes to their knees. Anyone familiar with plains nations knew they depended on them for almost every aspect of their lives. Whether or not you are aware of their motives. @@jimbrew4529
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson Год назад
Mom will be 100 in 3 years, up until her moving to a nursing home when she was no longer able to care for herself a few years ago, was deadly afraid of Indians. She grew up on deeded land on the Sioux Indian Reservation in North Dakota. Dad got the home place when his dad passed away, our farm was about 18 miles North of the Reservation boundary but mom's experience with the Indians even in the 20's and 30's was enough to bring on that fear. Now that she is living in the nursing home with a few elderly squaws she has come to be friends with them, however she still distrusts them and has caught them in her room searching her belongings for good things. Our town is but 10 miles from the reservation and when I began my police career in it, I dealt with plenty of the Sioux in the early 1970'S, then took a job South of here where I worked in the only town, on the only highway that connects the 2 large reservations in South Dakota. Our jail was often filled with Natives who, while passing through picked up some wine while "going to see my cousin at Pine Ridge," or "Going to see my Cousin in Cheyenne River." I took a job at a larger department North of there and moved on, but it was enlightening into the life of the old Indians on the reservations.
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
Interesting how prejudices persist. The colonial powers set up the dynamic knowing full well the situation that settlers were being sent to. They used them as cannon fodder as the “front lines” in co-opting territory. And considering there is no nation named Sioux, except as a European name, curious about which ones you mean.
@jimd8008
@jimd8008 Год назад
Ty for sharing
@thatguyjoe007
@thatguyjoe007 2 дня назад
I wish the episodes were in proper order. I need episode 4 and 5, but can't find them in the mass of numerous different episodes and other stories.
@patriciajrs46
@patriciajrs46 Год назад
I find it interesting that Fanny Kelly, or Mary, whichever, was doing the reading to the natives. This person who also learned the native language.
@clayrankin8343
@clayrankin8343 Год назад
She realized that reading to them, as well as dressing wounds and performing slave labour were the only reasons she wasn't tortured and summarily murdered. Or perhaps for a possible future ransom. I have read other narratirves written by women who had witnessed their husbands and children murdered and been taken into captivity, and they all shied away from mentioning that they had all been repeatedly raped. Rape victims had an undeserved stigma attached to them back then.
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
@@clayrankin8343 Rape victims often still have and undeserved stigma attached to them. Most trafficking in North America involves native women and children. The stigma or shame is often what prevents them from getting out of that life. Considering that many of them also meet an untimely end, the behaviour of those times has persisted. Too often rape is used as a weapon of war the world over.
@steakeater4557
@steakeater4557 Год назад
@@clayrankin8343Making up shit by trying to say women have no value. Go home to Europe.
@solyluna1778
@solyluna1778 Год назад
Human beings are not "human"...
@reggill7621
@reggill7621 Год назад
Russell Brown, what would you want em to do ? It was their land, greet you with open arms ?
@alexandrasmith4393
@alexandrasmith4393 Год назад
If it wasn’t these people it would have been others. They took the Gospel and civilisation. A better way to live.
@nonyabiz550
@nonyabiz550 Год назад
They did it to others before them and the contemporary tribes. They stole land all the time, took slaves, and the atrocities. They lost to a superior culture because of their paganism and crude ways. Christianity is responsible for every benefit the American people enjoyed for 100 years. We started hospitals, orphanages, ministries to the alcoholic, the poor, abolished slavery and mercy in the penal system to name a few. The natives had a better life than they ever would've alone (while it lasted)
@lpronovost84
@lpronovost84 Год назад
They had their own gospel and culture, they didn't need the christian gospels and all the diseases that killed them.
@reggill7621
@reggill7621 Год назад
@@alexandrasmith4393 Dont think the Invaders had Gospel or civilisation in mind, I think the Indians would have been happy the way they were, some American was all on about bleeding hearts because of supporting words for defenders ?
@granmabern5283
@granmabern5283 Год назад
@@reggill7621compare the lifespan pre- Christianity and post Christianity. Many Indians were thrilled to become Christians.
@Bumpyi64
@Bumpyi64 Год назад
There is no Spirit Lake, MN but one just across the border in Iowa. Perhaps the maps have been redrawn since the 19th Century...?
@joanneewerling5698
@joanneewerling5698 Год назад
Google it.
@Tsonontowan
@Tsonontowan Год назад
Google it?
@cplmpcocptcl6306
@cplmpcocptcl6306 Год назад
There is a Spirit Lake in Mn.
@dianebrady6784
@dianebrady6784 Год назад
There was a spirit lake. There was also a silver lake. Lakes can dry up for various reasons and then become grown over.
@fionnmaccumhaill3257
@fionnmaccumhaill3257 Год назад
​@@dianebrady6784 The 4th largest lake in California (which was essentially an inland sea) dried up (in part due to poor land management) for almost a century and has now reappeared due to the massive rains of 2023.
@albertandrade285
@albertandrade285 Год назад
I remember reading a description of the Sioux Indians by Lewis and Clark stating how hideous the Sioux Indians were. How they were one of the worst tribes that they encountered on their quest across America!!!
@jimbrew4529
@jimbrew4529 Год назад
There's a reason the Sioux were banned from Minnesota after 1862.
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
There’s no such thing. That’s a European name and a generalization. Why do Europeans in NA persist in perpetuating biased stereotypes?
@joehernande-721
@joehernande-721 Год назад
I now understand the hatred of the white settlers towards the Sioux the killing of the children and the treatment of the very young lady was horrendous.
@ANASTASIA-ANGEL
@ANASTASIA-ANGEL Год назад
It went both ways
@RedOnly
@RedOnly Год назад
Especially the live cooking of the infant, making mom watch before killing her. Murdered her mind and soul before body.
@jimbrew4529
@jimbrew4529 Год назад
Well stated... yes, the settlers and their descendants had good reason to hate and fear the Indians. Which isn't excusing the the behavior of the crooked Indian agents.
@jimbrew4529
@jimbrew4529 Год назад
@NVMVNV What do school shootings have to do the discussion of 1862 civilian deaths? 😏
@jimbrew4529
@jimbrew4529 Год назад
@@ANASTASIA-ANGEL Actually, that's not accurate in Minnesota. There is no account of the massacre of Indian women and children.
@andrewandres148
@andrewandres148 4 месяца назад
Dude.... Right on..... I like Minnesota history.......
@MsEssmess
@MsEssmess Год назад
I think thefilm "the missing" was quite informative.
@sweetinfidel1320
@sweetinfidel1320 Год назад
what happened to her child Mary?
@gwenshin
@gwenshin Год назад
They killed her and left her body on the road to rot.
@CoopedUp74
@CoopedUp74 Год назад
This is surprising to me. The sick and graphic experience is mind sicking. I makes my stomach sick and burns imagine thats ill..
@waynelayton8568
@waynelayton8568 3 месяца назад
My great great grandmother was scalped and her teets were cut off. She lived to be 105 years old. She was known all throughout the County as the Teetless wonder. She had 13 children and the midwives and a black servant fed the babies.
@unworthyhistory
@unworthyhistory 3 месяца назад
Wow
@lesterandrews1894
@lesterandrews1894 Месяц назад
I will join your paid membership, I am curious to know if this is a personal endeavor ? If put together by a company ??
@unworthyhistory
@unworthyhistory Месяц назад
It’s just a personal endeavor - a one man show.
@Zionist_Eternal
@Zionist_Eternal Год назад
Well done, as always. Thank you thank you.
@deadhorse1391
@deadhorse1391 Год назад
Thanks for another amazing video! I thought the story about the second woman captive sounded a little fishy…Why havent she seen her before? I don’t know
@gwenb4531
@gwenb4531 Год назад
I was wondering the same thing.
@davidmuir7711
@davidmuir7711 Год назад
The devils’ traded some tobacco to get her from another tribe.
@patriciamccormick9321
@patriciamccormick9321 Год назад
Huh? Google it.
@JG-cx4fs
@JG-cx4fs Год назад
Wow!
@lisaabramovich7656
@lisaabramovich7656 Год назад
If anyone knows of the Smith family Willis Verona and Bonita from Minnesota looking for information. Would be greatly appreciated.
@michaelshapely9886
@michaelshapely9886 Год назад
Tremendous
@rsmyth75
@rsmyth75 Год назад
They received the title of savage and I was deceived that they were nobalsavages however they did get their just deserve
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
It was white reporting calling them noble savages. Seems like some are prone to propaganda. Considering this one sided account, why were these people in the territory of others acting like they could just go where they wanted?
@mineralmerchant00
@mineralmerchant00 6 месяцев назад
​@@Ketowskiit's called conquering a land, the natives were very fond of the practice themselves.
@Ketowski
@Ketowski 6 месяцев назад
@@mineralmerchant00 Yeah, which natives? Your stereotyping is showing.
@starrycrown
@starrycrown 7 месяцев назад
The corroborating evidence tells me that Fanny was telling the truth about meeting Mary.
@jimtalor9537
@jimtalor9537 Год назад
They should be thankful they are on the reservation...
@ktloz2246
@ktloz2246 11 месяцев назад
Speculation is not proof that she made it up. She did write the story after the fact so names and places may not be exact.
@darrenmcg97
@darrenmcg97 Год назад
Daryl the other option is she could have made up a lot of what she has said. I was about to how this lady has lived 14 years with the Indians and still thought like a white woman. Who knows now
@karenhill3970
@karenhill3970 Год назад
Horrible just horrible...yes abuse and tortured ....
@wednesdayschild3627
@wednesdayschild3627 Год назад
People are just the same. We can do good or do bad. Choose to be good. I think she is Mary. She talks about the clothing and the splitting sash. I think the other woman grew jealous. I think she had mixed feelings about the chief. A part of her cared about him, but a part of her didnt.
@bc2578
@bc2578 Год назад
It’s almost as if they weren’t actual people but primitive vessels for demonic entities.
@KatJ3st
@KatJ3st Год назад
Traumatized by abuse and disease they have been provoked since the white man arrived on the continent.
@unclejoe7466
@unclejoe7466 Год назад
Most native tribes or "nations" named themselves "the people" as if all other tribes were less than human. I suppose it justified treating other people outside their tribe with savagery.
@davidmuir7711
@davidmuir7711 Год назад
Now you’re getting it B.C. Hideous painted fiends whose cruelty knew no bounds, having practiced on each other for centuries.
@creaturecaldwell9858
@creaturecaldwell9858 Год назад
Kinda like the settlers..
@clayrankin8343
@clayrankin8343 Год назад
@@creaturecaldwell9858 The settlers regarded Indians as people. They treated them with hospitality and kindness, albeit with a justified wariness, since Indians they encountered were by nature thieves and murderers. History bears this out. The settlers were just trying to eke out a living on the land. They were not marauding, murdering and pillaging Indian villages, as the Indians did to each other before Europeans showed up and continued to do so after first contact. The accounts I have read of whites treating Indians harshly was as authorized para-military organizations seeking retribution for heinous acts.
@mitzibutler6415
@mitzibutler6415 Год назад
🙏🏻
@hyacinthlady
@hyacinthlady Год назад
Yay!
@cplmpcocptcl6306
@cplmpcocptcl6306 Год назад
In regards to the dingbats thesis. It’s POSSIBLE she’s a figment of her own imagination. It’s POSSIBLE… you get the idea.😊
@cammacgregor9354
@cammacgregor9354 Год назад
Ms. Jordan Redinger is a good example of someone submitting a poorly-researched thesis on a rarely discussed topic to gain attention through pseudo controversary. Her bogus theory is comical.
@bonnielucas3244
@bonnielucas3244 Год назад
Lewis and Clark did not like most Indians they encountered. Mainly they just liked the Mandans.
@fordtuff2600
@fordtuff2600 Год назад
Did Lewis and Clark tell you personally.....
@creaturecaldwell9858
@creaturecaldwell9858 Год назад
And the Mandans are gone..disease obliterated them
@sandyhawks5240
@sandyhawks5240 20 дней назад
I find this information is questionable.
@reggill7621
@reggill7621 Год назад
Ya see you just can’t wander into someone else’s Country throwing around agent Orange nay palm etc,shooting up the locals because they will turn savage, then you’ll get your ass kicked ?
@nettiewolverinethunderbird8341
I agree. Hey..I discovered your bbq!
@nettiewolverinethunderbird8341
I agree
@nettiewolverinethunderbird8341
The Province of British Columbia doesn't belong to Canada because there was no treaty. Breaking the proclamation of King George. Yay!
@user-kb4fx3xi9l
@user-kb4fx3xi9l 2 месяца назад
Beyaz askerlerin kızılderili kadınlara ve çocuklarına yaptıklarını anlatın kızılderili bebekleri aç köpeklerin önüne atılıp nasıl parçalattıklarınıda anlatın lütfen objektif olun.
@TinaFivesten
@TinaFivesten Год назад
Fanny Kelly did NOT make up Boyeau. Why is it always so important for some to change history. I've read that story as a witness to the white woman and her baby massacred beside a fire place. Such evil exist, in plenty, within low IQ and fundamentalistic tribes, as we know.
@mountaingirl6479
@mountaingirl6479 Год назад
The Nazis were evil but intelligent. I don’t think the Native Americans were unintelligent. Some were very good, some were not. There is hatred all over the world in all races. And there are good people all over too.
@bndergltd3053
@bndergltd3053 Год назад
How were they low IQ? How were they fundamentalists? So massacring whole villages like whites did, is a high IQ move?
@viperman8788
@viperman8788 Год назад
I used to have a book with narratives and one was a farmstead with a large family that nearby Indians who had all lived alongside for more than 10 years who suddenly decided they hated the all the white folks and came killed the parents and staked out all the children to die slowly in the heat and eaten to death by animals...............true story.
@S.L.O.P.
@S.L.O.P. Год назад
😮
@ibilki
@ibilki 11 месяцев назад
Intéressant documentaire vu d'outre Atlantique depuis le 'deep south west of France'. Les autochtones d'avant l'invasion anglo-saxonne vivaient comme tous les humains qui ont fait l'Histoire du monde : toujours en rivalité, guerres de groupe, bref toujours cette aspiration au pouvoir de domination du voisin. C'est malheureusement dans la nature de l'Homme. Les historiens ont voulu en faire des hommes fiers, humbles et droits, etc... Ce qui est aussi le cas dans la lutte et le combat, une certaine noblesse. Cela dit, l'invasion anglo-saxonne était elle justifiée ? Les américains d'aujourd'hui vous diront que oui !! Perso, comme toute invasion en pays lointain je dirai que non, et Dieu sait si les pays européens ne se sont pas gênés notamment en Afrique et Amérique du Sud. C'est l'Histoire avec ses découvertes et... ses drames.
@LouLou10000
@LouLou10000 Год назад
So much for peaceful
@ginamascetti8810
@ginamascetti8810 Год назад
Omg....those poor captives. They saw first hand how savage the Indians were. So, the "poor Indians" scenario is hog wash. The only way to get the Indians to concede was to get them all drunk
@bndergltd3053
@bndergltd3053 Год назад
The Indians were savage? What would call all the whites who owned slaves? What would you call the whites who wiped out whole villages, full of women and children? What would you have the native Americans do? Just watch as whites invaded their land, indiscriminately killing off their main source of sustenance (the buffalo), and displacing them?
@fordtuff2600
@fordtuff2600 Год назад
🤔 Careful, your ignorance and racism is showing through ....
@donaldschutt2571
@donaldschutt2571 Год назад
I thought all the Indians were like in dances with wolves? Lol
@captainpinky8307
@captainpinky8307 10 месяцев назад
13:11
@CarolineOceanaRyan999
@CarolineOceanaRyan999 Год назад
I wonder if people watching these videos understand that the Native peoples did not invent scalping. They learned it from the Europeans, who'd been scalping their enemies for centuries.
@mineralmerchant00
@mineralmerchant00 6 месяцев назад
False, the natives were doing it for centuries, it was a religious thing for them.
@charlescasey9799
@charlescasey9799 4 месяца назад
Ah the noble savage
@AndreComtois
@AndreComtois Год назад
Anyone interested in history such as this should read Empire of the Summer Moon. The story of the Parkers and the Commanches.
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
Or from the account of the other nations involved. Or how about a less biased account that looks at all sides?
@jamesbarnett2483
@jamesbarnett2483 10 месяцев назад
@NVMVNV Go away
@marywinter809
@marywinter809 Год назад
Indians are not monsters
@seplynn7122
@seplynn7122 Год назад
All of us are monsters when the conditions are right.
@mineralmerchant00
@mineralmerchant00 6 месяцев назад
Yes they were....... They considered kidnap, rape, torture, mutilation and murder of women and children as socially acceptable behavior and their cultural norms.
@ruthc8407
@ruthc8407 Год назад
THANK GOD these savages were conquered.
@Nakaiidine19-eC.aA.dC98
@Nakaiidine19-eC.aA.dC98 Год назад
I hope you know there were indigenous people living here before all you Europeans came, taking their land, massacred whole tribes, bringing all your diseases which they weren’t immune to, which wiped out hundreds of Indians. The white settlers were killing Indian women, children, babies, just so they could take their land. Who were the monsters?
@Fairyviewroad
@Fairyviewroad Год назад
They haven't been conquered until they capture you.
@robinjohnston222
@robinjohnston222 Год назад
the voice of the narrator sounds very condescending like he is reading to kindergartners and annoying. Needs lessons on how to read aloud.
@CarolFremel-my4hs
@CarolFremel-my4hs Год назад
Spelling lessons for you
@robinjohnston222
@robinjohnston222 Год назад
@@CarolFremel-my4hs mind your own business lessons for you.
@Julia29853
@Julia29853 Год назад
Go to another channel
@ITSONLYMEWATCHING
@ITSONLYMEWATCHING Год назад
It was a different time. My great great grandmother, Lucy Otherday, a loyal Mdewakanton and CHRISTIAN helped to rescue white settlers and missionaries during the Dakota war of 1862. So no, not all of them were bad. There were a lot of both good Dakota and Lakota and bad Lakota and Dakota. Maybe if Fanny Kelly with her family had not come to Turtle Island and stole land from my ancestors she wouldn't have been captured and held prisoner.
@seplynn7122
@seplynn7122 Год назад
You only own what you can defend, not what you think you saw first... even the different Indian tribes believed that truth because they were fighting for land and killing each other long before the first white man showed up. The same was happening, and still is, all over the world, it's what humans do.
@jimbrew4529
@jimbrew4529 Год назад
The settlers weren't stealing land from your ancestors. They were common folk trying to survive in a strange and new land. They weren't political. Geez, most couldn't even speak English.
@Ketowski
@Ketowski Год назад
Well put.
@jimbrew4529
@jimbrew4529 Год назад
The Dakota that helped the whites (the friendlies) were allowed to remain on reservation. Their descendants remain there to this day. Eventually, the friendlies were given additional land for a reservation (near Shakopee). The "half breeds" were awarded land near Red Wing which is called the Prairie Island reservation.
@angela2726
@angela2726 9 месяцев назад
It's absolutely certain that if Fanny Kelly had not passed through just then she would not have been kidnapped 😂 but I do wonder what brought her there. She must have known it was dangerous
@richardrowlands9113
@richardrowlands9113 Год назад
Didn't happen, a Disney play
@RedOnly
@RedOnly Год назад
Nah. She would have discovered and self mastered an incredibly rare ability, saved everyone and herself, changed the cruel cis males minds, and live happily ever after as a strong single female worshipped and adored by all. Oh and be a poc.
@Sheysheyshy
@Sheysheyshy Год назад
Noooo only Ohio. 😂
@kathybrem880
@kathybrem880 Год назад
Such absolute BS!
@bettybilly2496
@bettybilly2496 Год назад
I am an Indigenous American. As the White man came to the Americas, they claimed land as if no one lived on it. Then there was forced removal including murder. Now do you understand why we do what we do?
@margarethinderlich6263
@margarethinderlich6263 Год назад
The truth is; the ONLY LAND God Almighty has ever given any people He gave to the Jews, the land of Israel .
@johnruge1218
@johnruge1218 Год назад
@@margarethinderlich6263 Ask the people of Ancient Jericho about that one. Who WROTE the Bible, baby? We all SHARE this Earth.
@paigecat9104
@paigecat9104 Год назад
What you do? You've done nothing. If you threw a newborn infant into a stove to burn to death and take it out smashing it's brains against the wall you would be on death row rightly waiting execution. There's NO EXCUSE to do this to a baby or a human being whether the person is white or Indian.
@mineralmerchant00
@mineralmerchant00 6 месяцев назад
Your people did what they did because it was culturally acceptable to kidnap, rape, torture, mutilate and murder their enemies, no matter their race, sex or age. Any culture with those cultural practices is indeed a bunch of savages. Yes I know, some whites did those things also and they were considered criminals and degenerates by the whites, it most definitely was not socially acceptable among the whites. Also, the land wasn't "stolen", it was conquered. A concept the natives fully understood because they themselves conquered other lands.
@kathybrem880
@kathybrem880 Год назад
Just crappola to sell books and make money
@kellymurphy2471
@kellymurphy2471 Год назад
You definitely don't have the facts at all. They were not native Americans, and I repeat were not native Americans. Liz Warren must be related to them. It was Kelly who had/ has the Native American heritage along with other ethnic back grounds. One could say, her leaf's branched out all over different ethnics. Kelly never had to steal anyone else's identity. Look it up, it's Biblical.. And they know it....... Not Sorry!!!!!!!!
@russelbrown6275
@russelbrown6275 Год назад
I don’t agree with the individuals theory! I will rely upon the words of the woman who lived and wrote about her experiences. To think that she endured so many tragedies that she somehow couldn’t handle rape, I find that he is more likely ignorant than she was weak. Some people who have the audacity to say this to gain some notoriety off of someone’s misery is nothing less than PATHETIC!
@peggyochoa3538
@peggyochoa3538 Год назад
you have to understand that the indians were pissed they had everything taken from them their whole way of life as they knew it, maybe if we would have learned their ways and lived like them our lives would have been better no politicians no government control.
@joehernande-721
@joehernande-721 Год назад
You cannot sugarcoat the Indians treatment of the woman let alone the murders of the children it must be condemned no matter who the culprit is because every child is represented by an Angel before GOD all-mighty Christ said anyone who hurts one my little ones might as well put a milestone around his neck and throw himself in the deepest part of the ocean even though the Indians were not educated they had to know what it was to lose a child
@peggyochoa3538
@peggyochoa3538 Год назад
@@joehernande-721 you do know that this happened wayyyy back in time, and we cannot hold them accountable because they all are dead, now it is between them and god, and plus white people were no better towards them so they got revenge, that is how it was back then.
@dianebrady6784
@dianebrady6784 Год назад
'Indians' have a government..... it's just not your kind. We have a chief and tribal elders.
@viperman8788
@viperman8788 Год назад
NO. You don't revert from Industrial age back to stone age brutality silly child. They should have and could have EVOLVED from their brutal stone age like the rest of the human race did. They enslaved each other, they genocided other tribes and did things worse than CONQUER LAND. You children are very naive. It'b be nice if all you sympathizers had to live the hard lives they did............it was not ROMANTIC.
@viperman8788
@viperman8788 Год назад
@@dianebrady6784 You guys were conquered due to inferior evolution. Stone age doesn't EVER trump Industrial age humans. Grow and evolve or get left behind. You are on a computer thanks to technology that your people would never have engineered.
@russelbrown6275
@russelbrown6275 Год назад
All the bleeding hearts that are in support of these savages only need to watch these true firsthand accounts to understand why these savages were annihilated. I have no remorse for these animals.
@robertharrison4967
@robertharrison4967 Год назад
The most numerous savages were the white men who invaded their lands, a land of over 500 nations.
@Mydogpenny1970
@Mydogpenny1970 Год назад
Exactly what they was..Savages..
@ANASTASIA-ANGEL
@ANASTASIA-ANGEL Год назад
It went both ways. Treaties were broken every time, entire tribes completely wiped out. Millions of indigenous peoples were killed off their own land by invaders. What would u do if a group of people came to your house and kicked u out, then killed half your family and friends?
@horsewomn
@horsewomn Год назад
There are savage people on both sides. Whites and Spanish taught Native Americans to take scalps, whites gave Natives Smallpox, and a host of other diseases. We took their lands, their culture, and their children were separated from their families and sent to boarding school where They were beaten for speaking heir language, practicing their religion, they were savagely abused at the hands of Priests and nuns.
@KAT-dg6el
@KAT-dg6el Год назад
@@ANASTASIA-ANGEL we would call them Nazis.
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