I think Body Positivity should be for people who have lost limbs, have facial disfigurements, or have physical circumstances beyond their control. Obesity is usually if not always a choice.
Exactly. There's no excuse for being fat. There's a simple formula to lose weight, burn more calories than you take in. People that can't do that just lack discipline or self respect.
Lumber Jane Something else is that the body positivity movement says diets don't work and they gain wait because part of dieting isn't just getting of the see food diet (no miss spelling there) it is saying I can loss the weight.
The hard part is that obese people are usually addicted to food, and it's a hard one to break since we have to eat. I do feel for (most of) them because people are fucking assholes. With enough therapy and working with a dietician, anyone can beat obesity and turn their lives around.
The clip of the woman uncontrollably celebrating being classified as disabled because of her extreme weight is genuinely one of the most depressing things I've ever seen.
Chubby Greyhound I have a regular that comes to my store with one leg. She’s has never been accepted. This woman has five legs and she’s accepted. Someone kill me.
It’s like a real life version of Homer Simpson in the episode where he decides to become obese so he can work from home. Once again, the Simpson’s have predicted the future.
@Mcdicks she wouldn't be able to work hard even if she wanted to lol. Imagine her running a marathon....without a fridge at the end, that's pretty much the motivation for these people
Exactly. If they’re at a gym they did the hardest part and respected themselves enough to care for their health (and how it affects the other people in their lives). They’re attempting to change.
My father served 32 years in the U.S. Army, he was combat wounded and his body is all jacked up. The VA just last year dropped him from Tier 3 (highest) to Tier 0. I am his VA caregiver At T3 since the paperwork is in my name the payout was 3,800 a month. Which I knew my father needed this money to not only pay off his bills but he would be-able to enjoy his golden years. at T0 it was nothing a month. I appealed and got him least back to T1 its less then 800 a month which in all these years I have not kept a single cent. Keep in mind he can't drive, he can't even put socks and shoes on. He can't stand for long periods or sit for long periods. He has more metal along and around his spine then Iron man has in his suit, permanent nerve damage, constant pain. he will never get better only worse as the years go on. 100% disabled by Army and 90% by VA. Yea I understand the VA is different then welfare. But she applied for disability and got it because she is "fat" and my father has to fight for these benefits after being a veteran going back to the Golf War and loses his benefits? ... what in the fuck? This truly fucking disgusts me.
@Leah NoLiah Thank you, still in the process and this pandemic isn't making it easier. I am trying to appeal him back to tier 2 at least due to the new classification system. What I still don't get is they told me he was "mis-placed in this system" He is 100% disabled and you took him from the highest to NOTHING? Then they told me "Oh less he is completely bed ridden he will not be any higher in the system." I am so close to getting into politics to just fire alot of assholes and reform the VA, the entire VA. this straight pisses me off. He literally fought and busted his body for his country and this is how they repay not only him but all the other soldiers??!?! And my father is somewhat lucky to fall back on his 32 years. What about a E4 with a wife and 2 kids? How in the hell is he/she going to beable to take care of their family?!??!?! This breaks my heart.
I was obese. I hated my weight. I went on a strict diet and got off the sofa and exercised a lot and changed my lifestyle. It was bloody difficult but I did it.
I just don’t understand how could she find out if she was not peeping his phone 👀 It’s weird to think that someone sitting next to you keep peeing your phone and monitor what you’re texting 😬
Yep, and I totally agree with her. That cow had no business reading his text messages. Like the reporter said, we do not have Thought Police and that man has every right to say anything he wants in his personal correspondences. She needed to mind her own damn business.
I don't, cause like hell that was dude in a private setting. If more than one person can look over and see what's on your phone, you're not in a place where you can have privacy. You can talk shit, sure, I mean it takes balls, maybe even a little finesse. But talking shit behind someone's back doesn't, and it sure showed when he got caught. I don't care about the fat shaming blah blah blah bullshit, it's stupid politics that turns into who can scream the loudest into a microphone. Which is exactly how it turned out in that news clip. The guy was too stupid to hide his phone, and the chick reamed his ass like anybody with a spine would. In the news clip unfortunately, nobody had anything intelligent or interesting to say.
I do wonder, if she admitted to reading his text messages and apologized for her weight, and was genuinely sorry for making him uncomfortable, how well the interaction might have gone. I just wonder if the guy might have felt bad for her, and maybe they could have both had a good interaction. I dunno, that's just speculation.
The fact that [“model”] she has the audacity to call out him out this hard after invading his business on his phone and stealing his private conversations with sneaky photos. Love how she says don’t treat anyone like that ever again. From what I heard he TREATED very kindly overall. His words weren’t even for her eyes, yes were completely unkind but that doesn’t change the fact that she invaded this man’s privacy. This is the big proverbial line in the sand. If we allow people to do wrong to stop their feelings from getting hurt man were fucked as a society. Where does it go from here? I’m glad the new anchor called her ass out, golden.
Every time I see a person not in the greatest health out on the track or in the gym, I have nothing but respect for them. They're facing their issues and working at it.
I find fat disgusting but I'd never shame them especially if they are trying, it's the smug ones that have attracted the hate on all fat people and that's just not fair
Thanks man i think u motivated me a bit im just not going to the gym bc i dont want to ruin the day others bc u know im fat trying to do something and they have to see a fat guy waddling around like a helpless pos sweating like he where unter the shower all the fat wobbling around like a goddamn waterballoon
She took up a spot that could've been given to someone who has an honest disability that they were born with and cannot control. Nearly anyone can eat less than what is needed to gain weight to the point of obesity. (I say nearly everyone because I am sure that there may be some exceptions.)
She did more than read though...she recorded. That could be sort of like stalking or trying to steal personal information. He has the right to THINK & silently text whoever he wants about her. FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Not only that he isn't even talking to her or looking. She engaged him!
So...she was reading his private texts? Like invading his privacy? She's literally taking up extra space, having her rolls overlap on to him. AND invading his privacy.. That's a extra large Karen.
I mean sometimes people are curious and they notice things. I’m not saying what she did was right but it’s human nature to be curious. Especially if she saw the message was referencing her. Still though she handled the situation poorly
They think they are an "oppressed minority" , obese people make up 36.5% and rising. Victimising themselves because they are in denial about their food addiction.
This was funny, but on a more serious note....most people will never know how good the human body was designed to feel. I used to be super fit, then was 250 pounds, now im in the middle and making my way toward fit again, I already feel amazing and it has changed my life drastically for the better.
The woman in the plane SCREAMS insecure. She’s talking AT him, not with him. He apologized and she talks and talks and talks. Then on the talk show people talk over the woman who points out it’s free speech. Ridiculous.
not only that, but most of her arguments where either irelevant or plain stupid, the equalevent of her asking if he was a doctor is like me finding someone on the street and talk critticaly and mad at them like, do you have a bugatti? na'a did not think so, (when i ovbiusly dont have one myself)
Sandro Santos or people with eating disorders who might get triggered (I mean actually triggered, not in the way you idiots misuse the term to mean offended.)
@@totallyblueflame2nd They actually meant it the way everyone is using it. Way to call someone an idiot when in reality your comment makes you look like the idiot. Good try though 👏👏👏
the 'all bodys are beautiful' thing was meant for amputees, people born with defects and people that have scars from abuse or war, and not people that are too lazy and committing to put down the pizza and start working out.
I'm not so sure that is true, but assuming it is, it's as flawed as the fat is beautiful movement. It's implying that amputees who also have birth defects, scars (but only from abuse or war, a strange specification) are still beautiful. They might in fact be beautiful people but it doesn't make them beautiful. Perhaps amputees but then you are still judging them on their looks, they simply have less limbs. No one looks at a burn victim and thinks they are beautiful. Or someone with Down's Syndrome. Of course there is the notion that there is someone out there somewhere for everyone but for the overwhelming majority of people, it's not beautiful. The real question is what actually is beautiful and who decides it or dictates it. It wasn't too long ago when fat was considered beautiful because it signalled wealth and fertility. It's a strange double standard though. If you look at old paintings and sculptures, the women were more plus size, the men were chiseled adonises. I wonder how long it will take before everyone is fat/obese and beauty standards will change to reflect that. A tine when 'fat acceptance' will have nothing to do with acceptance because everyone is fat.
The guy apologized for TEXTING rude things on HIS PHONE (WHICH SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT ANYWAYS) and Natalie whateverhernameis still badgered him after he said sorry. Like jeez. Get over it.
Kora Johnston Right! And she was right in what she was saying! Actually was speaking with logic rather than speak with “feelings”!! I’m sick of always worrying about people’s feelings! 🙄 especially in a personal private text On HIS PHONE!
Let's be for real, she snooped his phone because she was LOOKING to see if he was talking about her. She wasn't just sitting there all innocently and was forced to read his messages against her will. I've been on hundreds of flights with god knows how many people next to me texting millions messages and I cannot tell you what a single one of those messages said. Why? Because I mind my own freakin business.
@MC Madness i agree that it isn't nice, but I'm just calling out bs. I don't think she saw it by accident. And if you go eavesdropping and see something you can't handle, then you have don't have a right to make a scene about it. If she can't handle it, she should stop peeping people's phone
maybe, while he was txting he noticed her looking at his phone?; "what the ****?" "oh, this heffer is snooping at my phone? let me see if she really is, and give her something to flip about". she should have minded her own business; and who does that, anyway? look over someone's shoulder, or however, and then, take a picture of it? should have cuffed her for indecent nosi-ness...hahahaha
@MC Madness I agree. Like, if there was a larger person sitting next to me, I wouldn't say anything about it. Their problem, they're not actively denying they're unhealthy and why would a strangers weight bother me unless it affected me personally.
The woman getting excited about her welfare being approved make me physically sick. People work hard and long for that money just for her to sit at home and do nothing and get her bills paid.
Honestly... At first i was mad but I had to remind myself everyone's disability isnt able to be seen on the outside. Hard to pass judgement on someone we know nothing about :/
@@mbunn789 disability isnt just one look. She could have anything like MS or a mental/behavioral impairment. Could be an extreme low iq with a lack of retaining information to learn how to even do a job. You just dont know. We cant see her medical records to say she is or isn't.
I do think he was being an ass, discussing someone else in a negative manner essentially behind their back. But it was also stated he actively TRIED to lean his phone AWAY from her, meaning she was following the phone to keep reading the texts and therefore invading his privacy. If someone’s being an ass, just say ‘I saw that, please don’t insult me about my weight as I am insecure about it/don’t like it being pointed out’ and move on. She actively continued to invade his privacy just so she could have something to get pissed at. (She could say all she wants that she’s “self confident” but she’s not at the end of the day, instead of saying ‘hey, can you not insult me, that’s mean. If you wouldn’t say it to my face, don’t say it behind my back’ she just waited to get enough dirt on him so she could flip out and get a few retweets or something. I don’t doubt she was upset, it most certainly is upsetting to be mocked for an aspect about you (I have previously been mocked for my weight, as I have been rather overweight all my life, but I didn’t record the person without their consent (technically illegal) and flip out on them and go in national television screaming “FATPHOBIA!! FATPHOBIA!!”))
This model is so damn stupid.She needs to stay in her own privacy.She had absolutely no reason to say anything to him,all he did was text things to someone else not her.
ALL of these land-whales lie like a motherfucker. They all insist that they exercise regularly and don't eat junk or eat a lot. It is hilarious on "My 600 pound life" when they try feeding Dr. Now that bullshit, he shuts them down real quick. And they all try to say that it is "water weight" 🙄
My son is in a wheelchair. I can’t tell you how many times we have seen some obese person take up the handicap parking spots. I have to park in the back lot and while I’m pushing him up we will see them toddle out to their car. So upsetting.
Nothing quite as enraging as going to the grocery store and being left to use my cane to hobble around the store because all the electric carts are gone, only to see a whole squad of obese people that took them. Like, I have chronic in my lower back and legs that makes it hard to walk. I'm 21 and I'm gonna have that for life, but a great first step for you to no longer needing that cart would be to put back that soda and twinkies and maybe use a regular cart to walk around with a bit of support
I was bullied my whole childhood for being fat due to my medical condition which resulted in turning my life arround and start living healthy and do fitness. Fat shaming is more then appropriate because it goes against irrational wussness that makes people realise (hopefully) they destroying their lifes and whats more shocking mostly lifes of their kids as well
That first clip is gold.. you can tell the dude sincerely tried to apologize, even though she shouldn't be reading private texts on his phone.. but she went off to the point where he clearly didn't give a shit about her anymore.
6:40 - fat victim of herself from the airplane - “He had his phone text bigger than he needed”. Maybe his eyes are not brilliant. Is she shaming the disabled without knowing how her comments will affect others?
@@joequeer3920 Yeah no, she doesn't have a big following . No presence on Instagram, no presence on Twitter, no presence on Tumblr& her Facebook's (who the hell still uses this!) last post was 3 days ago and had 80 likes. 😂🤣🤣🤣 Who would have thought that people don't like land whales 😂🤣🤣🤣
i thought that the body positivity movement was for body SHAPE not body size, & for stretch marks & acne & just overall normal things that arent normalized in media & what not
What’s really funny is that that text would’ve only been seen by a few eyes. But her tantrum made it to the news where everyone saw it and she got roasted by thousands 🤦♂️😂😭😭
I used to be overweight and I met my current love of my life 5 years ago. She has a condition called Arthrogryposis. She can’t walk and has very limited strength and movement in her arms and legs. She uses an electric wheelchair to move around. Yet she has accomplish a lot, got her BA, she is currently a supervisor for a big gas company in Los Angeles. I am proud of her. She encourages me to lose weight because I can still walk, go up the stairs, go to the bathroom, change clothes. I am in the best shape of my life. It upsets me that obese people take the handicapped spots and ADA seats when me and her go out. She genuine needs these spots and yet these people can at least walk to point A to point B.
Well he should fix his eating habits first. I used to be like that. It’s just a show to give the illusion of trying. Hes just wasting his time and money because he’ll go stuff his face when he goes home. Dafuq does an obese person need a medicine ball and a gym facility for anyways lmao... just put down the fork
the drunken ramblings north east UK too long didn’t read. Obese person at the gym is wasting time end of story. Just eat less calories than you expend. That’s all. A bit of cardio can be good but they can barely handle walking outside they don’t need a gym membership let alone a medicine ball lmfaooo
Planes have maximum takeoff weights, and I would not want to be the one doing the load-balancing on that flight. For those who don't know, balancing the plane's load keeps the plane's center of gravity where it's supposed to be.
@ben O thing is if they proud of being fat then why its a negative phrase ? If you proud that you' white then when someone call you so white you should be happy yes ?
@ben O Ok try this example, girls in Asia love to stay in shape, so when somebody tells them you're so thin/skinny, they're feel good because they love being thin/skinny, the same logic applies to fat people, if they love being fat then why upset about it when ppl call you fat? if u don't believe u can just check fact how many % obese in Asia or ask someone Asian
@ben O and btw i was talking about how girls in Asia love having a white/pale skin , unlike Western love tan skin , not race sir , ask any korean , Vietnamese , Chinese , indinosian
Something that a the majority of people forget to account is that there are free to do and be whoever they want BUT other people are FREE to criticize and judge them too
Natalie Hage- The "I have a very big following" creature on the plane. Yeah no, she doesn't have a big following . No presence on Instagram, no presence on Twitter, no presence on Tumblr& her Facebook's (who the hell still uses this!) last post was 3 days ago and had 80 likes. 😂🤣🤣🤣 Who would have thought that people don't like land whales 😂🤣🤣🤣
Imagine hurting your own feelings by going out of your way to read a stranger's private messages that are not meant for you then calling a national news program about it. She got the attention she wanted, but at what cost? The dignity of taking the high road.
@morgenshadow I'm not obese, but I'm so guilty of that shit. I'll go work out and be like "I earned some fast food." It's so easy to fall into when you're hungry after.
The way he apologises and she just keeps going and going and refusing to drop it, bragging about the fact she has a huge social media following like she's trying to validate her own existence is really annoying.
Every fat woman: “I’m a strong, confident, beautiful, independent woman!” Also every fat woman: “Someone criticized me and I completely fell apart. I started crying, called the police, contacted the people in charge of wherever I am, threatened to get them fired from their job, threatened to burn down their house, because they hurt my feelings!”
EXACTLY! Why are these MOSTLY women (I am a woman too and sick of this BS) so ENTITLED!?!!??!?!?! I would have SMACKED her in the face (and been led off the plane lol)....God these people need to be SCHOOLED by a Gordon Ramsey style doctor about how nasty and unhealthy they are...
That overweight woman qualifying for disability pisses me off so much. There are actual people with actual disabilities who cannot change and are stigmatized for needing government assistance because of people like this.
If he was fat and making fun of a skinny woman then she would get in trouble for looking at his texts over the internet. The less you fit into society the more your opinion matters I guess 🤷♂️
Like the women that was in a debate with her said, she caused her own discomfort by reading into the messages he was sending. Sure they weren't nice like but she chose to escalate the situation and it was blown out of proportion all because she feels she has to justify to her self that being fat isn't a problem when it clearly is. obviously looking to gain sympathy for being obese somehow. Either lose weight or die younger. I don't see how these people can't get their heads around that.
I was once on a flight to New Mexico and this man sitting besides me was trying to covertly record this women sitting the aisle across from us. I couldn’t for the life of me fir girl out what he was trying to see but I was very uncomfortable. He was super creepy for the rest of the flight.
Sam Collins pick your battles lol those who are truly okay with themselves don’t mind anyone who thinks otherwise. She could have admitted she was insecure and that’s what triggered her reaction to his texts but she was trying to portray herself as unbothered when she clearly was 💀
When my mom was going to support groups before and after she got her weight loss surgery, everyone there was always complaining about all the foods they’d never get to eat again. My mom has been living with chronic pain her whole life. When her weight became a problem, she did something about it and felt much better afterwards.
I understand having some problem with the photoshopping because they’re actually changing the reality to what could be argued to be unrealistic, but the real actual fit person isn’t unrealistic, it’s just that the fact that they’re real judges fat fucks that refuse to be fit.
I'd say the proof is in the pudding... and the life expectancy... one of the two live far longer on average... which would that be again? Must be the morbidly obese.
Post modernism teaches that any minority should be favoured over a majority position, resulting in the situation you see here, where skinny can be criticised and fat should be promoted.
That woman who ate herself into obesity getting so excited for benefits is truly a leech. She will contribute nothing to whatever country houses her, and could potentially imprint this same behavior on the young boy in the room. The best way to discourage this is to do more in depth background checks on the people that apply for these benefits, of course it will take time but the system could also save on money by doing so. There are people who desperately need the assistance that are deprived and then you get people like this who receive it. Disgusting behavior from that lady.
@@OkabexKurisu you missed the point. We’re not talking about the US we’re talking about how much of a piece of shit that lady is for exploiting the system for a disability check that she clearly doesn’t need.
@xxaleenazxx Let's be respectful about this. Yes the guy did text his friends saying harsh and uncalled for things about her body,but did she really have to confront him and record it?she could've just confronted him and let it go,it happens everyday to people.
xxaleenazxx nigga what the fuck? It doesn’t matter. She shouldn’t have been looking at his phone, period. I think fat acceptance is cringe, but it’s honestly whatever. It’s not completely bad. I just watch these videos because they’re honestly funny. What IS completely bad is invading someone’s privacy by staring at their phone. It’s not yours, it’s theres. How would you feel if this was a slightly different situation, where you were sending a really sensitive and private message to someone, and you noticed this woman staring at your phone? Obviously the guys a dick for sending that stuff, but she shouldn’t have been looking. I don’t care if that woman is the size of jupiter or if she’s a goddamn skeleton, don’t get into other peoples business. If that man was on the phone, calling, right next to her, THEN she could’ve confronted him, but staring at his phone to stalk his texts and take pictures of them? no.
Oh my god. She has 0 rights to get into an argument based on texts she shouldn’t have read. Let’s go through her private texts and see what an angel she is.
Just got a notification from RU-vid that this content is “inappropriate” I had to confirm that I understood that I knew that I was watching it. RU-vid has worse sexual, violent, gross content that they allow and picks and chooses what they want to censor. This is one of my favorite channels keep doing what you do.
@@kristysimmons8612 Some people actually have health disorders which cause them to gain tons of weight and/or they have an overlying disability that causes them to gain weight. Those people I feel bad for... the just normal obese that go for wellfare need shunned.
I have a disease that makes it more difficult to lose weight. I am proud of myself because l have lost 30lbs despite this. I will keep going because l want to get to my target weight.
Congratulations on your loss. I am much lighter than you, but I am losing weight too and learned that seeing the difference can be a real source of motivation. I am sure you feel more confident looking at yourself and I hope it continues to go well for you.