Fate Lore - The Tale of Heracles 

clement goh Either that or someone abandoning their child in a mountain or by a river.

having a raging boner 24/7 is pretty much the only thing zeus is known for so how else could it start?

My friend the reason why we had SO many mythical creatures in ancient Greece was because Dias(Zeus) was horny that day, and we have so many anecdotes of him because of it!

@@uteriel282 ROFL, LMAO. Hilarious and true. Zues was a horny bastard wasn't he?!

Even the gods have human lust because they're always lusting over humans lol

God in Reverse That statement has a lovely afterthought when it all comes together.

thanks

lol

Depends. Some sources say that Centaur blood was the problem and it did kill him

“Deianira you bitch why did you coat the blood of that centaur asshole what the fuck did you think would happen! Fuck it I’m immortal but this shit fucking sucks peace” - actual quote drone herc Source: trust me dude

@@Alernategem her name literally means husband destroyer

Lucas Tobias I am aware

some of fate lore is oddly different from the actual legends. i don't know why though.

Cake# Yeah, that moment was where I saw the most actual character development for him.

OtakuDaiKun Hmph Berserker is truly the strongest in the world. Did you get the news about okeanos coming on the 28th?

Yup. Buffing up my servants for it^^

I've ALWAYS thought of that parallel. Fate servants tend to be so much more interesting the more you know about their legends/life stories.

OtakuDaiKun. i wish Frankenstein was that caring for me.

Wrong show. XD

cant wait for jesus to join the holy grail war

@@iquoteeverythingisay4627 ruler class

@@iquoteeverythingisay4627 we have Buddah in saviour class, so why not Jesus.

Guts could be a berserker, saber and even an archer as backup.

clement goh It'd be cool to see an ova with him performing the labors.

If that happens, it better be freaking kickass because we need more of Herakles as he should be, not as a constant reminder if the worst days of his life, nor as a hate-filled caricature of himself, but as a true hero whose greatness is unforgettable and is what comes to mind when one thinks of great heroes of antiquity

Alex Park feels

Stop the tears.

fuck you

Now that would be a twist

Ahh, a fellow man of culture

After Infinity War, that bald angry man should've caved in Thor while he's in Norway.

Aaron Woodruff Archer Herc appears in Fate strange fake. And your pretty much right, Archer Herc is much more thin compared to his berserker self.

Your impression is correct. Each class has certain modifiers to give the heroic spirit certain advantages and drawbacks against its competitors. The Berserker's modifier is called "Madness Enhancement", which boosts all their physical stats at the cost of higher brain function often to the point of blind rage and inability to speak. I do not believe there is any official art by Type Moon of Heracles as any of his alternative classes or in life, though I would wager there are a few fans who gave themselves artistic licence when drawing or writing about him in this what-if scenario.

Cu culain should have been berserkar Artoria should be lancer Emiya should be saber Hercules should be archer the rest was okay with there place

KTS News and Politics Yeah. Those had to be some nasty ass stables.

Yeah I think they were so overcome with filth that the smell alone would rot someone’s lungs if they breathed in the stench to long

Shirou Tokisada Amakusa Kotomine grand doesn't necessarily mean powerful (although that's usually the case) it's often a skill that is associated with the servant that can qualify them for the class

The Title of Grand certainly doesn't seem to be nothing. That's why i said he could be, because it's a pretty big thing. WARNING, POTENTIAL SPOILERS FOR GRAND ORDER We know only of two Grand Servants so far (as far as i know). Grand Assassin King Hassan and Grand Caster Solomon of Israel. Both were stupendously powerfull, even compared to other outstanding examples of their classes. King Hassan was able to block Excalibur Galatine from Gawain, while he was empowerd to his highest through numeral of the saint *with his cape*. Which isn't even a Noble Phantasm. Solomon has complete control over magic itself, can call upon 72 Demons, whom each have enough power to annihilate multiple servants. And all of that are just his skills. ENDING OF POTENTIAL SPOILERS Hercules in the form of the Archer/Avenger Alcides hasn't appeared yet in Grand Order. And while there are other potential candidates for being the Grand Archer, he is one, if not the most likely character for it in my oppinion.

Shirou Tokisada Amakusa Kotomine sorry, i didn't get this notification. How do you get youtube to notify you on comments again?

No idea...

lucky i haven't been able to get him at all

I have him and he's my favourite servant in all the fate series paired with iskandar... His lore is sad in life as is sad in the fate series, truly an unlucky character, that'why i Like him a lot

He even broke free of Enkidu and made Gil shit himself! That was the best part!

I believe that was his Battle Tenacity or Continuation skill taking effect there sort of like Cú Chulainn who supposedly fought Gilgamesh for hours in one of the routes. They're different heroes and one is under the influence of being a berserker so I think that's what makes the difference there. Some really good heroes in Stay/Night that are just overshadowed by GG Gilgamesh, Baber, and I am You, and You are Me.

@@merlink.7287 your comment is too good for everyone

@Min Ex The moment Gilgamesh opened his mouth in Fate Zero, the number one thing I wanted was for Berserker to punch him in his smug face, but I didn't get that. Then I hoped that the Berserker in Fate/Stay Night would get to punch him, but I didn't get that either.

J Double C Well his mortal side dies and his soul is accepted among the gods. When summoned as a servant it's his demigod form. God's themselves normally can't get summoned.

Thank you so much!

I have a friend who studied Alexander the Great in college so I too am excited.

Awesome

PaulNBlack true archer? Could you explain I'm confused.

Probably when the novel series is actually over. I think it's still ongoing

A servant of Fate/Strange Fake in layman terms...SPOILERS SPOILERS... STOP READING IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS. His true name is Alcides, the human side of Heracles, when he hasn't come to be insane However, prior to being summoned he shrunk and lost his divinity. But, he makes up for it in various ways.One of...if not the strongest Archer in the Fate Series (theorized to be capable of going toe to toe with FP Gil for 12 weeks). "He can accurately shoot arrows from his bow at a target over twenty kilometers away, their speed surpassing the speed of sound and releasing powerful enough shock-waves to shatter any glass in the nearby area. Even when Archer uses the gauntlet of his Golden Armor to defend himself from an arrow, it still cracks the gauntlet and causes chips of it to fall away. His bow is strong enough to knock away weapons from the Gate of Babylon, and he can somehow survive an all out attack from all directions without receiving a single scratch by using his Nemean Lion Pelt Noble Phantasm. He states that Archer requires Ea to make them equal in a clash, producing a mysterious cloth Noble Phantasm. He also possesses Reincarnation Pandora. His Battle Continuation can allow him to continue fighting even with wounds that place him on the verge of death. An ability representing his strong will to stay alive on the battlefield. Bravery is a skill that brushes aside mental interference and increases melee damage. The divine curse lodged inside him has be brought out by the Command Spell. The score has decreased considerably. Forced Distortion of the class he was originally called forth in. He has received the other class's specialty as proof. Conversely, either of the class skills has declined. In his case, Independent Action has dropped to C rank. Eye of the Mind (True) is an insight fostered through training and discipline. In his case, having his god given abilities thrown away, the techniques he accumulated as a human make their appearance." His Hydra bow has enough power to match 5 of the beams of light from Ars Almadel Salomonis.(Which basically means he can match 5 Excaliburs). He's virtually invincible.

Yharnam It has a very low chance of being completed sadly.

The Nasuverse has always been about Overpowering enemies with stupid strong power.

Chadest man ever Press (f) for respect

parker maisterra Very true indeed different universe mean different people with slightly different history this could be said same for Hawkules (He is the spirals version of Heracles/Hercules), I’m not quite sure if they mentioned megara and his kids.

Owen Ahlquist Yes! Please Daikun!

His lore is basically the same with real life history

Pff I can't be bothered to study "real life history." So I figured, he's in the fate series, and Daikun does lore on fate, so I might as well ask him.

firedrake burst Interesting. I know he gets a different class in FGO but not assassin.

he is confirmed to be a candidate for asassin, as strange as it sounds. And dai, so far we only have zerker herc in fgo, alcides is in strange fake

exactly! he didnt even need illya's heart in that route too because they decided to use Rin or Shinji thats what pissed me off the most Hate how in all the anime adaptions minus Stay Night she always gets killed she's one of the characters that deserves a happy ending the most next to Sakura

Voivoda Dracula He'd just bash people with it.

It would be a one-hit noble phantasm

jesus alberto armenta olivares My current forecast is Kojirou Sasaki, True Assassin, then Angra Manyu.

Xavier Zeus' untamed libido...

TheRichmaster Thank you^^

I could have filled it with lots of him just screaming and standing there but there’s hardly any art of his past.

Kraros is not a son of zeus in mythology, he is the son of a Titan and his friend with Zeus.

I will but he'll be after the classic servants as I work my way out.

OtakuDaiKun good good, nobody gives hektor the respect he deserves. Even Achilles stated they were rivals, and he wouldn't want 2 fight him again

Tdull1993 Well they're both misunderstood which makes them an ideal match.

It's important to his entire myth after all.

Freddy Gutierrez There's actually meaning behind Heracles so it's definitely odd.

+OtakuDaiKun sorry meant to reply to this but was caught up with christmas stuff and looking into fate apocrypha as i prepare a full review in both anime and light novel to cover my basis in what's good and bad about the story in particular. anyway on the topic of Heracle's name I feel that while Nasu took it upon himself to do what I usually assume is deep level research on his part and I'm not really sure if the japanese even say Heracles since looking on some subs and dubs of fate stay night which were official had his name as "Hercules" so I can only surmise the reason why the name change to some extent is controversial on a small scale but not really. I think we mainly owe it to main stream media in how they chose to go about using the name Hercules over Heracles. since at least when it comes to looking back on American media we've had our fair share of greek mythology movies, shows, and games that have defaulted to using the name Hercules which over time became the more popular known name while still telling those exact same stories you brought up in the lore. I mean hell I don't know if they changed it but I recall my old literature books when i was in school from elementary to high school they called him Hercules. honestly as easy as it would be to simply say "Blame disney" it's really not their fault at least not entirely. I know disney took a friendlier concept of greek mythology but I still love watching that movie so I don't want you or others to get the wrong impression. the main point I'm trying to say is primarily everyone in the US at least myself included are so used to hearing this hearing this myth and used to seeing and even hearing his name be Hercules so it's understandable why most would feel off put if this is their first time hearing it that way. whether you decide to bring this up in a future discussion video or not or you may have already in one of your videos but I think it's a good topic to discuss on why certain heroes of myth have had name changes in some way or form since Hercules/Heracles isn't the only one since we also had that with Jeanne D'Arc translated to Joan of Arc, and probably the only other name that upset the fate fanbase was FGO's official english translation of Artoria to Altria even though previous dubs have said Artoria. anyway that was meant to be my reply to you on that and i think it may be more of a discussion point to bring up in the future when you think it's appropriate or even worth a good 5 minutes to talk about since I have seen comments and even the official FGO and Typemoon Wiki made a note about how the fan base got upset about the name changes.

Freddy Gutierrez Tracing that trend all the way back would be difficult. It's the same way for Odysseus right? That's his roman name.

He'd have to find a way to limit his God status in order to fit into a servant form. Perhaps he could claim a human vessel like some other gods.

Weakness any female servant...

Genderbent Zeus?

But still has Zeus's lust for wamen

I'm going to try and cover all of them, but I'm working my way out from FSN.

OtakuDaiKun ok, I like fate/stay night to, so who's next?

OtakuDaiKun is it pronounced Berserker,BaSaKar, or Berser-car?

Jamal Davis berserker

Yu Homura it was meant as a joke.

Thank you^^ I'm working my way outward from the classics. After Stay Night I'll be able to jump between Extra, Zero, and Apocrypha.

I know, right? Hippolyta was the only one I saw a manga pic for. Pretty sure it's from strange fake.

that..that cant be possible request everyone for pics... but si- *EV-E-RY-ONE!!!!!!!!!!*

Plazoblock12 I'm sure he still misses his play-dough.

Plazoblock12 You can't be a hero without a tragedy

Cake# Did Shakespeare have a tragic death? He's a servant.

OtakuDaiKun No but he wrote tragedies so it works out.

I was surprised to see Hippolyta had a Nasuverse image^^

OtakuDaiKun there's also Penthesilea in Nasuverse but most of time in Fate Grand Order Epic of Remnant, theres even a fanart of her with Hippolyta together. The bad news... she's a Berserker with Mad Enchantment EX rank and will go nuts if Achilles is around. Hippolyta as Rider appeared in Strange Fake but thats about it other then she punched a messed up version of Heracles into a mountain and erupted.

Derek Bates That's a fantastic point. I'd love to hear his internal monologue. He could have used Illya herself, Rin, or Sakura as vessels, but settled on Shinji. It's probably a bit of his lust for drama and ego that provoked his decision. He is overconfident after all.

Personally, I think he likes killing ppl.

He didn't have any interest in the grail besides its curses so he intended to create a defective grail just to spill mud everywhere, you could make a point of him avoiding Angra incarnating or something, but Kirei did intend to complete the grail and Gil doesn't use Shinji after Kirei is dead so maybe he still was thinking on using a good vessel till that point and then Illya death was just because he wanted to fight Herc and had no interest in taking care of Illya afterwards, because he could have just waited to the end to go after her

They were huge horse stables.

OtakuDaiKun whoops must be daydreaming at that section horse stable, yeah it is pretty filthy

Horse stable that had never been cleaned before

I dunno. Cu might have to use his NP for every life.

@@otakudaikun Thanks a lot for replying, I really like Hercules but I do feel Cu would've won. In the novel Cu battled against Gil for more than a day

Basically a divine spirit is a full on god. In order to be servants they have to considerably limit their divinity.

@@otakudaikun So,like for example,if Athena from Saint Seiya who is a goddess was summoned,she would be less than than god?

mlal89 Archer Heracles appears in Fate/Strange Fake, and he's super overpowered.

But archer heracles gets altered

Axels Santoso He’s a demigod. You’ll find a lot of those. I guess it’s assumed that, technically, they aren’t even at their full power as servants compared to how they were in life.

@@otakudaikun so heracles is even more stronger when he is at his prime? Damn and he was already one of the toughest servant in fsn

Fights in Fate are always contextual.

Usually the changes they make are to have them appear more sympathetic.

I will, but after the Apocrypha anime. Mordred is one of my favorite characters after all.

Alright, cool. Frankenstein('s monster) is one of my personal favorites, and I'd love to see her story done in your style.

God Eater, Tales of Xillia and Vesperia, Inuyasha, Fate Zero... I think that's most of em.

Well thats major SPOILERS but essentially he is the concept of the Heroic Samurai created by "Caster=Medea" from what i gathered from Fate:GO.

Correct.

Don't worry, that's coming^^

OtakuDaiKun ok

Maybe temporarily. It's at 800 views now.

OtakuDaiKun. no it's 840.

666 likes? No it's 645

Not anymore, now the likes are close to 800

I always tell their back stories, but when it comes to summarizing their on screen time I pick the route I feel is most dramatic and relevant.

Ah. I was just curious. I noticed it before but didn't really think much of it.

it's where he's best characterized IMO. In Fate he gets six lives shaved off by EMIYA off-screen, then another one by Rin, and then gets finished off in one hit by Caliburn, but no real heroic deeds as in UBW, just gets defeated in a straight forward fight. In Heaven's Feel ***spoilers*** he gets swallowed by the Shadow after fighting the Shadow and Saber Alter to the end to allow Illya to escape ***end of spoiler*** while this makes it sound pretty similar to fighthing to the end with Gilgamesh, I find the tragic ending of Illya dying and Heracles' Battle Continuation triggered after her death to be much, much more powerful

lol... when you name yourself that I feel like I'm actually speaking to Arcueid. Pretty much every servant has multiple stories to tell, so I choose the one I feel is the most dramatically potent. He's a great opponent in Fate, but we don't learn much about him in it, and in HF he gets pwned by Shirou's Nine Lives Blade Works. The UBW route adds a much better dramatic touch to his story, or so I feel.

RusterRD That’s his Roman name.

@@otakudaikun oh okay XD just making sure i wasnt using the wrong name all along

Only visual novels/games :/

Fate Stay Night has a manga but it's inferior to the visual novel.

The thing is Hercules was the legitimate child of Zeus and Hera and not one of Zeus's "hide the banana" escapades with other Greek women in his movie and animated series. So in a way Hercules was always the more favored son over Heracles the Berserker...

Hm? What about it?

Kanra-tan Because he can go the distance.