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Feisty Mormon Girl Defends Mormonism 

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Pastor Jeff Durbin from Apologia Church/Radio/TV spoke with a young Mormon girl outside of the Mormon Temple in Mesa, Arizona at the annual Easter Pageant. Our hope is that this video will help both Mormons and Christians alike. We pray that Mormons will see it and begin to question their beliefs and test them by Scripture. We hope that Christians will be encouraged to reach their Mormon friends, family, and neighbors.
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@ApologiaStudios
@ApologiaStudios Год назад
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@ellgee611
@ellgee611 Год назад
Pardon, but your use of “sweetie “ and “sweetheart “ is condescending and inappropriate. Use sister, brother, or friend instead. You may not have meant “sweetheart “ dismissively, but it sure comes across that way. These people are your brothers and sisters in the Sovereign Triune. Please use their first names, ma’am, sir, brother, sister, or friend.
@mrmonay
@mrmonay Год назад
@@ellgee611 If she didn't take offense, there's little reason for you to on her behalf. It's just as common of a phrase as "ma'am, sister friend," etc... especially in the south. No need to make an issue where there isn't one.
@captainmarvel76927
@captainmarvel76927 Год назад
u are then following the anti christ traditions of the satanic reformed tradirions of Luther Calvin Zwinglie and Henry VIII. The false religions of 1517 non catholic Christianity are utterly born of men and the father of lies. Quoting scripture becomes superfluous when its done by two men and camps that claim to have authority and know god.
@saspen3
@saspen3 Год назад
​​@@ellgee611 thank you! So patronizing and completely inappropriate! He comes across as a real predator!!
@saspen3
@saspen3 Год назад
​@@mrmonay I take it you've never been called sweetie before?
@natalieesdaille9504
@natalieesdaille9504 Год назад
She's been through three or four ideologies and is proudly claiming that she's not lost. If Im driving and I make a wrong turn more than 3 times I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M GOING.
@briseidavega3494
@briseidavega3494 Месяц назад
Good one
@ThePthompson41
@ThePthompson41 8 дней назад
Exploring other religions and philosophies is brave. Every path is not the same.
@jillcooper6371
@jillcooper6371 Год назад
I was raised Mormon. Mormonism is totally a polytheistic religion. Which is what made becoming a witch so easy. I am however a saved Christian today! God truly left the 99 for me.
@Morethangood.
@Morethangood. 5 месяцев назад
LOVE SISTER!!!!! This is amazing.. makes my day!
@johnroberts6695
@johnroberts6695 5 месяцев назад
So, Jill, you think “Mormonism” is polytheistic and secular Christianity is monotheistic, right? Well, math was never my strong point, but I'm pretty sure if there's a Father, a Son and Holy Spirit, that that's not ONE, it's THREE. The apostle John writes that when Jesus prayed to the Father concerning the Twelve, he said, “that THEY may be ONE _even as_ WE are ONE.” (John 17:22) In other words, in the same way WE are ONE, so should the TWELVE be ONE. Jesus used the term WE referring to him and the Father. And “WE” is _not_ monotheistic. “I” is monotheistic. In short, 1 + 1 + 1 ≠ 1. Then we have Genesis. “Man has become as one of US, knowing good from evil.” Are you saying WE and US are monotheistic. You can leave the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints and reap the consequences - it's your right, but please don't be hypocritic about it. The Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God, but they aren't the same entity manifesting itself as three beings. That is modalism. =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= 🎥 VIDEOS =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5yjKSaegLJg.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A_g3tRBoxg4.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EOPFob0cjfw.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kGSEBwZMpsA.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7_xbqr5WZ_o.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B-XC05DHH2w.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Mm-AXJNXiB8.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4LdR7BoI6F0.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-p9fYEzmKZQQ.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3WTwQml8MaE.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5A_CRJY8XCg.html =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
@josht1901
@josht1901 4 месяца назад
​@@johnroberts6695 3 persons, one essence. One being. Jesus said "I and my father are one" in John 10:30 John 10:30 30. “I and My Father are one.” 31. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” 33. The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.” 1. As soon as Jesus said this, the Jews wanted to kill Him, because they knew He was claiming to be God.
@johnroberts6695
@johnroberts6695 4 месяца назад
@@josht1901 » Why can't you accept them as three separate beings that are ONE in purpose? Yes, Jesus was YHVH, the Son, but not the Father. When Adam transgressed, the Father no longer could commune with man. A mediator was needed, and that mediator was YHVH, the premortal Jesus Christ. Once the Earth has completed the great Millennium, it will be redeemed. Then shall YHVH turn the Earth back to the Father perfected and glorified. He will sit with the Father on his throne, and those who gain Eternal Life will sit with Jesus on his throne. Then we will become like the Father and Christ (see 1 John 3:1-2).
@josht1901
@josht1901 4 месяца назад
@@johnroberts6695 hear o Israel, the Lord our God is one (deuteronomy 6:4). God progressively revealed Himself over time. We see loads of theophanies in the old testament, which you are probably aware of. i believe all persons of the holy trinity have the same will, but i would have to have 'purpose' spelled out a little more in order to say all 3 have the same purpose. for instance, God the Son took on flesh and came to earth. Jesus as God the Son and His apostles modeled prayer to God the Father, but in Jesus name. when Adam transgressed, i dont know i would say i know what God's self imposed limitations may have been with regards to communication. by saying 'commune', i think the inference is that Adam couldnt be in God's presence in the same way as before. i'd agree with that assessment. not sure i get the idea of where any disagreement may be, or if there is one. hopefully i clarified, or maybe generated more questions. regardless, may God bless you.
@KwmLis
@KwmLis 7 лет назад
Dude with the red tie thinking "this guy is actually making sense..."
@George4139
@George4139 5 лет назад
You saw that he was intrigued bc he was open to the truth. He didn't believe what he been fed. He was sent to be a missionary and probably met so many nice ppl in Nebraska he just was part of LDS bc family and he natural to love his parents. Seemed like genuine young man who I feel now I'd searching deeper
@The-GreenHornet
@The-GreenHornet 5 лет назад
I pray that the word of God that went forth will not return void (Isaiah 55:11). As Jeff was speaking to the young girl, he was examining hopefully Isaiah 43:10-11. On a side note, I have open air preached. And it has been my repeated experience that the people who are listening in the background and at a distance. Are the ones who the seed of God are truly doing a work in. Usually in my experience, the person who is having the one on one debate with me, are arrogant and prideful. Not saying that they too cannot be saved, but most often they don't, because they are proud in heart. They just want to argue and debate just for the sake of them being right in their own minds. So, I use the proud argumentative person to draw a crowd, so that the ones sitting back in the distance can reap the fruit of the gospel being preached.
@williesipu9594
@williesipu9594 5 лет назад
Kue Lee the girl he’s with looks like one of those brainwashed followers in Conan in snake temple
@JodyCarmichael
@JodyCarmichael 5 лет назад
We never know who might be the one listening and learning.
@danielmoore4024
@danielmoore4024 4 года назад
@@JodyCarmichael Anyone who thinks their church's doctrine contains everything are not willing to learn because they think everything is already revealed. There's always more to learn, teachings and mysteries in the scriptures we haven't noticed ourselves yet. Anyone who thinks they understand the Word 100% will not learn because they believe there's nothing left to learn so they will not look. So in this case, Durbin's the one not willing to learn, we can hear in the girl's voice uncertainty proving she knows she has more to learn. I don't know anyone who would not close off from Durbin's sort of over confident attitude and pressurising tone of voice. "Believe what I believe or you will go to Hell for eternity." "Love thy neighbor as thyself and do your best to follow the Saviour's example." Which of the two sermons would people be more open to? My opinion is the second one, that's why in the church's history the British were more willing to join the members Joseph sent, they didn't lift themselves above others.
@ChaChaDancin
@ChaChaDancin 3 года назад
Wish I had a memory as good as him. His grasp of scripture and ability to pull out and quote scriptures is amazing.
@Some_One_One
@Some_One_One 2 года назад
Rehearsing does this.
@garlottos
@garlottos 2 года назад
You'll realize as you talk to more and more detractors, that they seem to always give the same responses, so you'll be able to address exactly what they're trying to refute
@tomjjackson21
@tomjjackson21 2 года назад
Agreed! I watch these and am continuously taking notes. I have no idea as to how this man is capable of memorizing so much text.
@danielmoore4024
@danielmoore4024 2 года назад
ChaChaDancin, He's very aporling actually, especially when he always brings up Isaiah 43:10, typical he always erases verse 11. Watch more of his videos and see he always says the same ones, point out a chapter that contradicts his interpretation and see him gobsmacked and watch him be struck dumb not knowing what to say when he no longer asks the leading questions. Everything Jeff says is scripted by his own wisdom for his own narrative which is why he never includes Isaiah 43:11.
@garlottos
@garlottos 2 года назад
@@danielmoore4024 Give me your translation of Isaiah 43:10-11, I want to make sure we read the same thing
@alchemywolf7786
@alchemywolf7786 5 лет назад
“ I don’t believe that” is not a valid argument lol
@Footballer140
@Footballer140 4 года назад
Alchemy Wolf that’s literally the foundation of atheism
@TheMaster4999
@TheMaster4999 4 года назад
@@Footballer140 That is the foundation of every religion.Every religion is based on what you belive and what you don't.Religion is not about being the truth or not.
@danielmoore4024
@danielmoore4024 4 года назад
Alchemy Wolf, She clearly didn't have the desire to argue with Jeff, I'd say her saying just she doesn't believe something is preventing contention which I always see as the right thing to do. Avoid fighting and arguing all we can and respect others for their alternative beliefs I believe is right. She's probably read articles of Faith 11 where it teaches we let everyone choose for themselves, D&Cs 134 goes deeper in depth on this. The girl was just following the doctrine she claims to be true, or claimed if she's left.
@lindalds
@lindalds 4 года назад
Why should there be arguments? She does not have to prove anything to him, or anyone else. The fact that he seems to think that HE has something to prove just shows me that deep down, he believes we might just be right, and he needs validation that we are not, and he is right to reject us.
@adrianaalonzo121
@adrianaalonzo121 4 года назад
@@lindalds He was not trying to start an argument. The entire time he was very peaceful and respectful. The fact that he is sharing the Word doesn't mean that he thinks that you guys are right. He is sharing because he loves others and he wants to help lead them to the truth. He's not trying to prove this to them for his own sake, he's trying to do it for theirs.
@RainsCloud777
@RainsCloud777 5 лет назад
What’s crazy is how she keeps denying things and being like “I don’t believe that I’m sorry no it’s not.” But whenever he offers to show her proof she never wants to see it??
@Tanner_Lan
@Tanner_Lan 2 года назад
She’s not going to know everything only a year Into being a part of the LDS church.
@clintmorrison5863
@clintmorrison5863 2 года назад
Unfortunately she won't know everything no matter how long she's part of the LDS church.
@ish9455
@ish9455 2 года назад
@@Tanner_Lan Why do latter-day saints always blame the person for failing a debate instead of the LDS belief itself? Years ago LDS missionaries came to me and I refuted the LDS faith with respect and by using the bible to show the word of God, and years later, I had my LDS friend telling me "They probably didn't preach well that's why you didn't accept the book of Mormon", Why do LDS keep doing this? isn't it the time to see that there is something wrong with the whole LDS faith instead of blaming missionaries that are literally programmed to say what the church taught them to say?
@IamGreatsword
@IamGreatsword Год назад
Unfortunately at the time of this production she wasn't really mature enough to make a good argument for anything really. I mean she already Wind ow shopped around at least by her confession something like six different faiths so take her argumentation for what it is a precocious flirtation with religion.
@larrybarnett5799
@larrybarnett5799 Год назад
People do that. When you grow up with an idea constantly indoctrinated in your life like communism you believe it, even though it's a lie. The truth will seem like a lie. And it tears tge very fabric of the world view you've been taught to believe.
@raysflames
@raysflames 7 лет назад
Truth sounds like hate, to those who hate truth.
@lindalds
@lindalds 7 лет назад
And lies are hate, and Durbin lies like a dog.
@0wnageclan
@0wnageclan 6 лет назад
lindalds tell me 1 lie that he said
@dontforget.thetruth9305
@dontforget.thetruth9305 5 лет назад
Council of nicea. . . .
@angelfigueroa6538
@angelfigueroa6538 5 лет назад
@@0wnageclan- I guess he didn't lie 🤷‍♂️
@danielmoore4024
@danielmoore4024 5 лет назад
@@0wnageclan That we believe the Lord's word passed away. There's a difference between lost and passed away. Something you can lose you can find, we believe in lost truths, not truths passed away. Christ is the Father is a lie. You say first Christ is the Father then Christ is with the Father. How can Christ be with the Father if he is the Father? How can Christ be by the Father's right hand if Christ is the Father? Matthew chapter 3. Christ being baptized, the Holy Spirit descending and God speaking from heaven. How can they be in three different places doing three different things if they share a body? Why do you reject the prophecies about the Apostasy, the restoration and the three heavens all mentioned in the Bible, look at 2 Corinthians 12:2 and you'll find yourself read "a third heaven", in order for there to be a third heaven there must be a first and a second. John prophesied the gospel would be restored in Revelation 16, since you believe there's no restored gospel you reject the scriptures. I can go on and on that your doctrines are full of assumptions made by flawed thinking imperfect mortals, the trinity is an assumption by flawed thinking mortals. Since you reject lots of scriptures you reject the word of God, as said in the video those who reject God's word makes you a fool. Why would I follow contentious, hating fools. The Lord said to love, he did not command to hate.
@poolguykp1990
@poolguykp1990 Год назад
Jeff, may God bless you for your efforts. I myself came out of a Mormon family sixth generation. Trying to talk to my family about the One and true Christ is like talking to a brick wall..
@EyeKnowYourRight22
@EyeKnowYourRight22 Год назад
What was that ?? She was so sweet and innocent then she got really mean/evil towards the end.
@johnroberts6695
@johnroberts6695 8 месяцев назад
» What did you expect from your family? That your view of the “one TRUE Christ” should be accepted while the JESUS CHRIST of the Book of Mormon should be rejected? So talk to me, if you will. Tell me what you told them. I was baptized into the LDS faith in September 1971. I came from a Methodist family but I departed from it to attend a non-denominational Bible Church. But if God is the same yesterday, today and forever, why did he no longer speak to man as he did anciently? Tell me what you would have told your family has they listened. I'm at stargater53/gm. Drop me a line and tell me a bit about your family and why you came out of the church. Use two asterisks in your subject line (**) Cheers. John
@trillrudeboy
@trillrudeboy 5 месяцев назад
Jesus says he has confused some so they will not understand. His sheep will hear his voice and come to him and he will never lose them. God made some clay pots for to be destroyed others to glorify him. He chose his people from before creation by his own regard and nothing we have done or said. We cannot choose ourselves into grace, it is a gift that God has given his regenerated people. This being said, all you can do is speak the truth, unlike modern Pelagians believe, we can't save anyone, God does that own His own. We can only be of strong character, rejecting all forms of evil and loving God before all things. His people will come to him, noone can still out of His hand.
@johnroberts6695
@johnroberts6695 5 месяцев назад
@@trillrudeboy » You appear to be a Calvinist, thus you apparently believe God chose you and others _before_ the foundation of the Earth. In short, you seem to think you and others have been saved entirely by grace whilst others are either saved or damned through no discernable actions of their own. This is their doctrine, but it's entirely FALSE. You were placed here by your own actions by what you did in your premortal life. Just as what you do in this life depends on where you spend the next, so what you did in your premortal life determined your life here. The Calvinistic doctrine that states that God arbitrarily chooses people based entirely on chance lacks justice. When Jesus healed a man who was born blind, Jesus’ apostles said, “Master, who did sin, THIS MAN or his parents that he was BORN BLIND?” Jesus offered no rebuke, but instead said so the works of God could be made manifest in him. In short, his answer implied that the man _consented_ to being born blind! God doesn't operate on chance, but by action. By what's in our hearts. He thus blesses us by what we do and say. And many of those who have had such experiences say they felt a sense of being home. One person who had an NDE said he was told, “Your memory of your life before will come back to you shortly. Again, God isn't arbitrary. There are policies he follows, and near the top of the list is justice. And He _NEVER_ violates it. To choose a person purely by chance and predestines him to glory makes no sense. At least to me.
@angusstewart6791
@angusstewart6791 5 лет назад
I was a 3rd Gen JW and so lost. I realized I needed to return to God, and found your ministry. God bless you!
@weknowthetruth6863
@weknowthetruth6863 5 лет назад
Jesus is NOT God, and Jehovahs witness is more true than MOST religions. Im not a JW but their beliefs are almost spot on
@4ozsamurai
@4ozsamurai 5 лет назад
We Know The Truth Almost spot on? What are they missing?
@weknowthetruth6863
@weknowthetruth6863 5 лет назад
@@4ozsamurai Their continual false end time prophecies, most believe in the virgin birth, and they believe the 4 gospels were actually written by "Matthew" Mark Luke John even though the authors are ANNONYMOUS (without names, the names were added hundreds of years after they were written). They do not agree with the Law of Moses and they believe in Faith WITHOUT Deeds.
@carbon273
@carbon273 4 года назад
We Know The Truth You are incorrect Sir. Sorry to say. When you see the Son, you see the Father. Seems clear to even an infant in the faith. Plain and clear as the gospel is to be. “Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.” ‭‭John‬ ‭14:9-11‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ To hone in on a scenario because the previous scripture does not necessarily debunk the Michael the archangel identity. Here’s another scripture set that interprets itself. “Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”” ‭‭John‬ ‭2:19‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ As well as: “He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you who through Him believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.” ‭‭I Peter‬ ‭1:20-21‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ Finally, The Father from heaven himself said this: “And a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son. Hear Him!”” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭9:35‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ So to completely set aside what Jesus said is to go against the commands of Jehovah/Yahweh God. Another point: What do you mean when you say they believe faith without deeds? They clock in and out every time they do field service. Field service in itself is good but when you have to clock in hours for it is fundamentally pointless and is suggestive to be against scripture. “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:8-9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
@weknowthetruth6863
@weknowthetruth6863 4 года назад
carbon273 WRONG Jesus said to the crowd “You have never seen Gods form or heard his voice” if he is God and talking to the crowd why the hell would he say they have NEVER SEEN GOD NOR HEARD GOD IF HE IS GOD
@sumyunguy6894
@sumyunguy6894 6 лет назад
Your patience is straight from heaven.
@MsFreedom4us
@MsFreedom4us 6 лет назад
Andrew Girgis the Trinity is fake doctrine ...
@danielvega442
@danielvega442 6 лет назад
+clarity seer 2 Nephi 31:21, Mormon 7:7 talks about the trinity compare it to 1 Nephi 8:9 it says something different Joseph changed his opinion of god throughout time
@mrhevel7705
@mrhevel7705 6 лет назад
cindybin2001 sola scriptura, scripture alone anything else is wisdom from man.
@geraldhenson6521
@geraldhenson6521 6 лет назад
Tell me where Heaven is, The physical location.
@mrhevel7705
@mrhevel7705 6 лет назад
@@geraldhenson6521 its a spiritual location...
@Millawaukee
@Millawaukee 4 года назад
i feel like this man knows the bible word for word
@TraciDargan
@TraciDargan 2 года назад
No, literally lol 🤣 it's so impressive and inspiring! There was one video where he was talking to a mormon about translations and started speaking greek and translating it word for word for him and it was hilarious (but also sad because the guy ended up walking away when he did that, hopefully he did or will turn to christ)
@valuecalc
@valuecalc Год назад
@@TraciDargan, the guy who walked away probably got tired and had things to do.
@TraciDargan
@TraciDargan Год назад
@@valuecalc you’re right. He has a life of his own. I just hope his words impacted him and he did end up turning to Christ.
@valuecalc
@valuecalc Год назад
@@TraciDargan, wishing for the best outcome is the right thought to have.
@benzun9600
@benzun9600 Год назад
he does not know the bible, he pretends to know it
@amars8360
@amars8360 2 года назад
The moment she said “why would god die” I knew she is still Islam / Muslim believer.
@christisgreaterthanculture9255
@christisgreaterthanculture9255 2 года назад
my thoughts exactly. sounds like she is still deeply rooted in islamic teachings from her childhood.
@khenbornagain
@khenbornagain 2 месяца назад
Yeah, that spirit of pride from Islam is still in her.
@zealgaming9123
@zealgaming9123 5 лет назад
I sat through this whole conversation praying she would repent.😭😭😭😭 let’s all pray for these people, they still have a chance!!
@judahcohen588
@judahcohen588 4 года назад
You can say that again!! All we have to do is say "I believe in Christ!" Such an idiotic concept.
@theviolist9873
@theviolist9873 3 года назад
Amen Jeff Durbin still has time to repent 🙏
@zealgaming9123
@zealgaming9123 3 года назад
@Timothy Henricson great advice from someone who doesn’t read the Bible lol.
@zealgaming9123
@zealgaming9123 3 года назад
@Timothy Henricson awesome, could you please send me the scripture that says Catholics wrote the Bible?
@zealgaming9123
@zealgaming9123 3 года назад
@Timothy Henricson still not in the Bible, thank you for your time.
@analazcano6475
@analazcano6475 5 лет назад
GOD REBUKE SPIRIT OF CONFUSION IN JESUS NAME
@edward_3ps4
@edward_3ps4 5 лет назад
Amen
@lynnc9511
@lynnc9511 5 лет назад
Amen.
@terynsales8055
@terynsales8055 4 года назад
Amen
@TheGLD
@TheGLD 4 года назад
Ana MARIN the world and the heaven go away but the word shall stay
@danstephensen9902
@danstephensen9902 4 года назад
???? you invite confusion because you are confused
@Ragdollz
@Ragdollz 3 года назад
Deep down she knows something isn’t right. She looked like she was about to cry. I would too if I had been deceived like that.
@lindalds
@lindalds 3 года назад
Or that someONE isn't right. Like Durbin.
@truthgiverandfinder3246
@truthgiverandfinder3246 3 года назад
Or it is you Miss Linda who is not right who's lost Durbin is correct on his General points he has his minor points that are a little bit based but no the other ones the general points are correct.
@Ragdollz
@Ragdollz 3 года назад
@@truthgiverandfinder3246 it’s not even a debate. There’s so many Biblical examples. I found God when I had no pre-conceived perception of what he was. I knew nothing. I started from scratch, read the Bible repeatedly from front to back, and researched every possible angle I could. From Dead Sea scrolls to Hebrew to Messianic law, etc. I wasn’t brought up in a denominational teaching (aka Lutheran, Morman, Catholicism, etc). When you test all that you learn with scripture there’s no possible way to fall into any denomination. They are all flawed and based off human tradition - which is exactly what God warns us about. It’s exactly what he despises. You need to put aside what you’ve been taught by man, and find God on your own. Test everything, so that you can find truth. If you limit your truth to what your “church” defines, you will never truly know God. It’s called false religions. False teachings.
@truthgiverandfinder3246
@truthgiverandfinder3246 3 года назад
@@Ragdollz exactly that's what I was been saying the whole time girl here is confused she I don't think she ever was part of the Messianic Judaism or part of the Catholic because they're far closer to God's truth or Jesus truth cold could even dream of scented so satanic and luciferian and purely dark and destructive fights very own Nature by his very own background noise very own content it's clear that you cannot even people went towards this and when I talk to people like this they always question reality they admit they are utterly they will lie through their teeth to the worst extend to keep his exceptional eye that's how I'll brainwash them to see if they are gas line is our only defense ultimate form of deception or at least one of them
@truthgiverandfinder3246
@truthgiverandfinder3246 3 года назад
@@Ragdollz Lutheran and catholic and Muslim at least try. You gotta give them that. But these satanic scams in the dark always lie they say they have it right when they don't have it right at all when questioned and challenged they can't back it up the only argument I've ever heard about morons against Christianity or anything it's just the Trinity argument which is laughably incorrect because Trinity is far closer to Nicole's and it's amazing because when Satan Smith claimed he had it right when they're wrong he was a trinitarian even after he published the vom it was until the end of the 1830s to the 1840s did he start going from trinitarian to non Theist not just non monotheist but antitheist with no true God believe in general at all I really do nothing satanic luciferian false identification it is clear he got it from a satanic from is indoctrination into Freemasonry and into luciferianism which is antiGod as well for you picked it up but in extreme doses it's clear. Information is not these stupid people try to defend the indefensible liar overwhelmingly unbelievably indefensible and indefensible.
@ArmOr_of_the_Alpha_and_Omega
That woman is going to be a powerful force for God! She has been searching for truth...Muslim, Methodist, Mormon. She is almost there ❤. God put you in her path for a reason. That is God at work.
@parkerbarduhn9293
@parkerbarduhn9293 Год назад
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is where everyone should be. ❤ This is because Christ is at the head. Any other Church is false because they are run by false prophets. This is true and people hate it. I'm not afraid to speak up for the truth 😤 because the truth is what people need to hear 😊
@ArmOr_of_the_Alpha_and_Omega
@Parker Barduhn I agree with the false prophets' comments. Every religion has examples of false prophets, so how to determine which is accurate? We have to lend credence to the entirety of the Bible through the 100% accurate fulfillment of prophecy of the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ written 700 years before Jesus Christ was born. Upon the fulfillment of prophecy, judaism was made void, and any other religions that contradicts any of the teachings of the Bible can also be deemed false. That goes for islam, mormonism, catholicism, etc. Nearly all religions have a copycat of Jesus, while ironically contradicting the actual words of Jesus Christ🤦🏻‍♀️. All have some truth, but all are mixed with pagan/satanic beliefs, and some, like islam and mormonism, were brought by a demon masquerading as an angel of light, which God specifically warned us about for a reason in a very specific way. Had Joseph Smith and Muhammad actually tested the spirits that spoke to them as they were commanded to do by God, islam and mormonism would never have existed to commit the atrocities they have. Another very critical aspect to consider is that intention is important to God. When being saved by works, the intention can never be 100% pure because we always will have something to prove, and we are always trying to "be good enough." We can never be good enough. God says our good works are as filthy rags. Humans on our own are wretched. We are selfish, gluttonous sinners. No good deed, no matter how grandiose, will ever be able to pay the wages of the smallest, most insignificant sin. So if we have to do good things to save ourselves, the good we do is selfish to some degree even if we think we are doing it out of the goodness of our hearts. When we are saved by grace alone, we desire nothing more than to be Christ-like in all we do. We are transformed as we give up ourselves and sacrifice our fleshly desires. This is what it means by, "As the body with the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead." One can not claim to have true faith unless they have a true desire to produce good fruits for the Lord in gratitude for the sacrifice He made for us and the free gift we have been given. We want to do good so others may be blessed with this mercy as well. It is not to try to save ourselves. Trying to save ourselves is the equivalent of trying to be our own god... which was satan's first lie and continues to be his most used lie and people STILL fall for it 🤦🏻‍♀️. We are not God and we will never be. Neither will satan. God Himself says there is only one God and there are no other gods beside Him and through logical and moral consistency, it is obvious that it is the triune omnipotent God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and none are granted the gift of salvation unless they acknowledge and show gratitude for the sacrifice Jesus Christ made to save us. He will not share this credit with a false, powerless god nor any mortal. That would be insulting to Him. It is as simple as just taking God seriously in what he said in the Bible, but I understand easier said than done, as it requires we humble ourselves and admit when we are wrong about our beliefs. I've been there and that's a bitter pill to swallow and not for the faint of heart or those who follow their religion blindly or without critical thought.
@parkerbarduhn9293
@parkerbarduhn9293 Год назад
@@ArmOr_of_the_Alpha_and_Omega I understand your beliefs. But, I cannot abandon truth when God has spoken to me. I don't "follow my religion blindly or without critical thought". I doubted it before and wanted to leave, but my loving Father in Heaven gave me the personal revelation I needed to know that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints IS Christ's New Testament Church restored. Everything made sense after that. You can know this to be true by reading the Book of Mormon and praying about it. You mentioned many topics in your comment, would you like to discuss one? I love trying to understand people and their thought processes.
@ArmOr_of_the_Alpha_and_Omega
@@parkerbarduhn9293 the Bible says to not lean on our own understanding. May I ask what kind of revelation God gave you?
@parkerbarduhn9293
@parkerbarduhn9293 Год назад
@@ArmOr_of_the_Alpha_and_Omega What's the purpose of praying to our Heavenly Father if not to receive answers from Him? God wants to speak to us, he wants to guide us towards goodness, and personal revelation is how he does it.
@hazelgoudy6523
@hazelgoudy6523 5 лет назад
❤️This is the first video discussion I saw, as an “inactive Mormon” of Jeff Durbin. I had all the same thoughts and arguments this young lady had, as if she were in my own head, refuting all the points and places I would have. But I was able to hear his points, and take in the message he was giving her. THIS discussion, was the one that convicted my heart. It started a long journey and search for me. I listened to debates, read history, listened to sermons, and most importantly read the Bible and attended studies. A year later, I can say with joy, I am a Christian. I believe the Bible to be the THE WORD of God, preserved for us. Joseph Smith was a false prophet (this was a hard one to come to since I was born Mormon and taught since I could talk he was a true prophet). I am still learning, but the true spirit is found in the scriptures, in its truth, not a burning of the bosom. The Triune God, is the God of the Bible. Thank you Jeff and Apologia Church, Dr. James White, and everyone who reaches out to Mormons to share the true and everlasting Gospel of Jesus Christ!
@HLZBORO738
@HLZBORO738 4 года назад
Congratulations 👏👏👏👏👏 awesome to hear it. Heard of vincent james of the red elephants- nick fuentes
@orisamurai8760
@orisamurai8760 4 года назад
Vallie Gerl welcome to the kingdom!💯
@swiftblackninja
@swiftblackninja 4 года назад
This makes me want to cry. The angels are rejoicing in heaven over you finding Jesus and so am I. Glory to God that you were found back to him
@lalonguecarabine4952
@lalonguecarabine4952 3 года назад
@@HLZBORO738 Why in GOD'S name would you suggest a couple of political commentators to a young Christian?? Especially ones who spend all their time ranting about immigration? Darling I would suggest CS Lewis, Watchman Nee, AW Tozer and listen to some Keith Green music! Godspeed!
@HLZBORO738
@HLZBORO738 3 года назад
@@lalonguecarabine4952 one must learn not only biblical doctrine but must learn political and societal solutions to American problems... American history and culture from the past and present is intertwined with Christian tradition...one would be wise to learn both avenues when discussing issues with other people
@servantofjesuschrist9600
@servantofjesuschrist9600 4 года назад
She’s jumping from cult to cult I pray that she finds true salvation in the Lord alone
@zachburnett2433
@zachburnett2433 4 года назад
She won't find the Lord unless she one of the elect.
@someoneofgods2620
@someoneofgods2620 3 года назад
All the times she was wrong with religions and she still can't accept that she could be fooled.
@someoneofgods2620
@someoneofgods2620 3 года назад
@Brazilian Goddess I don't believe I'm immune, though I have received the Holy Spirit and check in with Him and He guides me and corrects.
@majm9309
@majm9309 3 года назад
Irony: _'so sad she was mislead by all those other non-evidenced ideas, she'd be much better off believing MY non-evidenced idea!'_
@generalpatton7876
@generalpatton7876 3 года назад
Poor girl. I wonder what cult she’ll join next?
@nafanuaseumanutafa5604
@nafanuaseumanutafa5604 3 года назад
I was a Mormon and to be honest this lady knows more in Mormonism in less than 2 years than some people that had been Mormon in a long time.
@natalyd9674
@natalyd9674 Год назад
Right. Made twice the child of hell than the person who taught her.
@p.shermanfortytwowallabyla9488
@p.shermanfortytwowallabyla9488 11 месяцев назад
I hope Jeff planted that knowledge seed. She fiercely defends what she believes is true... but she believes everything so readily. So many different beliefs in such a short time. She wants to know the truth so bad I feel like she's almost there
@deweydewey6714
@deweydewey6714 6 месяцев назад
No she doesn't . She is one of the ignorant new generation.
@deweydewey6714
@deweydewey6714 6 месяцев назад
I hate when these ignorant evangelicals who say they are Christian, but they are absolutely not! They teach another false gospel, a non Biblical and non Christian one! There were no damn altar calls in the NT! Also, the ignorant fool does not even know what born again means! Christ stated that one must be born of the water and Spirit, and many non Mormon commentaries state that this refers to baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, a Mormon teaching! They also believe in a non Biblical doctrine of the trinity fulfilling the prophecy of Paul who stated that they would not endure sound doctrine! It is not sound or logical to believe the stupid doctrine that one would pray to Himself?!? The true Christian church is the restored LDS church that has a foundation of prophets and apostles and every other thing that Christ set up! This guy an just another ignorant fool!!!
@zachcochran5738
@zachcochran5738 Год назад
I feel so bad for this person. If someone walked up and started telling you things you had never heard about your own faith, I understand denying it, but after so many examples I would hope any of us would question and test those beliefs.
@EyeKnowYourRight22
@EyeKnowYourRight22 Год назад
What was that ?? She was so sweet and innocent then she got really mean/evil towards the end.
@zwickysnails337
@zwickysnails337 Год назад
It’s hard to hear… I grew up Mormon and found myself in a Baptist Church. My pastor started to tell me the truth, because I kept towing the line and going back and forth between the two churches. And he started telling me stuff I wasn’t ready to hear… I got defensive and sounded a lot like her in the beginning. Saying things like “they don’t teach what you’re saying” “I’ve never heard that”. But I prayed and prayed the lord show me the truth that if I’m missing something for Him to open my heart and mind. And I spent a month, crying and crying because I felt so lied to… so embarrassed. I feel like she’s listening and it’ll resonate
@zachcochran5738
@zachcochran5738 Год назад
@@zwickysnails337 awesome insight thank you so much for sharing!!! Glad to hear you got out of that cult. Hope you’re doing well!!!
@heathermarsh2699
@heathermarsh2699 4 года назад
I was born into the LDS church. I was blessed, baptized at 8 years old, was baptized for the dead, and attended seminary and institute classes. Once I learned more about the history of the church I became a “professing” atheist and proceeded to live my life for myself. By God’s Grace the Lord saved me in 2015. My entire family is still very involved in the church. Thank you Apologia for the ministry to the LDS community. I can only pray God opens the eyes of my family.
@Tooth_Fairy
@Tooth_Fairy 3 года назад
Good on you mate, hope your walk with Him has been great so far 🦷🥂
@yaruqadishi8326
@yaruqadishi8326 3 года назад
Debaptize out away from the dead immediately and apologize for attacking the dead in so evil sins and abominations and desecration of dead. Restore back their names praying in undoing that satanic evil necromancy sins and evil against dead ones debaptize off and pull all the sinful deeds done against then jesus so will help you. Then apologize to the dead you tried to corrupt make amends then the dead as well as Father Jehovah God will not punish you. All morons ex and on should do that. Bible and so Commands it.
@yaruqadishi8326
@yaruqadishi8326 3 года назад
After that curse of any false Seminary b******* because it's not Seminary at all in the least.
@Tayman47
@Tayman47 2 года назад
@@yaruqadishi8326 you're speaking jibberish
@yaruqadishi8326
@yaruqadishi8326 2 года назад
@@Tayman47 how so ? Please elaborate or else you defeat yourself with babel 😈 here.
@mothermovementa
@mothermovementa 3 года назад
What Joseph Smith has done is totally un-acceptable. Leading millions to hell.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss 3 года назад
Hey bro what do you know about this Joseph Smith guy? I've never heard of him and tbh I think I'd rather hear what you have to say before I go and start looking into a bunch of wackjobs all try to explain their point of view. What exactly has this man done against Jesus? I'd like to know what you and whatanyone else seeing this has to offer. Hallelujah
@richgreene9420
@richgreene9420 3 года назад
@@TheAnnoyingBoss John Smith was a man married to many woman one aged 14 that was enticed by the devil who appeared to him as an angel of light to teach a false religion called Mormonism...the same old lie from the garden..."you will be as gods"
@SamM-lv8hr
@SamM-lv8hr 3 года назад
@@richgreene9420 John Smith was an English colonist and Disney movie protagonist
@richgreene9420
@richgreene9420 3 года назад
@@SamM-lv8hr oh? Then he was probably a 33 degree m4son
@kemptonwarr1104
@kemptonwarr1104 3 года назад
Hell? That's exactly the way Jesus wanted you to think about people aye?
@justinharrell327
@justinharrell327 5 лет назад
the 2 mormons not speaking got a lot more out of this because they simply listened
@lindalds
@lindalds 5 лет назад
They probably realized that they'd be wasting their breath trying to say anything. The deafest people are those who refuse to listen.
@MiracleWhit
@MiracleWhit 5 лет назад
They got their chance in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1lyQibl1pac.html God Bless Pastor Jeff.
@gustavmahler1466
@gustavmahler1466 4 года назад
Listened to a false so called Christian
@stephenblackwell5533
@stephenblackwell5533 4 года назад
@@gustavmahler1466 What? Who's false???
@gustavmahler1466
@gustavmahler1466 4 года назад
@@stephenblackwell5533 Durbin
@eselevi6132
@eselevi6132 2 года назад
Jeff's words are cutting deep into her soul
@lindalds
@lindalds 2 года назад
more like cutting away her soul
@ryfidelity7854
@ryfidelity7854 2 года назад
By revealing to her the real truth of the gospel and genuine salvation? Not possible.
@valuecalc
@valuecalc 2 года назад
@@lindalds, more like getting on her nerves.
@lindalds
@lindalds 2 года назад
@@ryfidelity7854 the real truth? Just Jeff's truth.
@lindalds
@lindalds 2 года назад
@@valuecalc yeah, he gets on my nerves, too.
@melissastone6971
@melissastone6971 4 года назад
*I can’t wait to hear their testimony on how they found the truth. Until then let’s pray for them.*
@ALLHEART_
@ALLHEART_ 4 года назад
@Jeffrey Stern There's at least 3 fallacies I can count in what you just said. Complete convoluted nonsense. Obviously each branch only believes in one Christ. What Durban means is that the Mormon Christ is not the correct, actual conception of Christ, and thus is a different Christ.
@ALLHEART_
@ALLHEART_ 4 года назад
@Jeffrey Stern That's what we're saying. They don't. They only know the misconception.
@ALLHEART_
@ALLHEART_ 4 года назад
@Jeffrey Stern God does dispence His grace to Mormons, as He does to all creation, but that isn't the same as Mormons knowing Christ as He actually is.
@ALLHEART_
@ALLHEART_ 4 года назад
@Jeffrey Stern That's isn't even Mormon doctrine, what you just said right there.
@ALLHEART_
@ALLHEART_ 4 года назад
@Jeffrey Stern You've repeated that several times and haven't backed it up in any substantial way. Also, you were attempting to deliver Mormon doctrine when you mentioned Joseph Smith. But, you said something about him that wasn't true (namely that Jesus' own hand delivered the "golden plates" to him) , so I pointed it out.
@danieldeletto8794
@danieldeletto8794 4 года назад
I feel so bad for this girl, her search for the truth is so genuine (going from one religion to another), she clearly has a heart to know the truth. Jeff did this lovingly and gently but your heart breaks watching her newest worldview crumble before her eyes. At the end it just seems like she had to escape because she didn't want to have to acknowledge that she once again put her trust in a faith that didn't lead to eternal life with the Lord.
@lindalds
@lindalds 4 года назад
Probably couldn't put up with his patronizing attitude. Resorting to calling her Sweetheart and Sweetie are signs of his frustration that his anti-mormon lies were not working.
@strongtower9237
@strongtower9237 4 года назад
@@lindalds Joseph Smith said that if you denied polygamy you would be damned. D&C 132 The LDS 'Lord' threatened to destroy Emma Smith if she did not abide by Joseph's immorality. D&C 132:54 What kind of a Heavenly Father does that?
@lindalds
@lindalds 4 года назад
@@strongtower9237 no, Joseph Smith said if you reject the new and everlasting covenant, after you accept it, you won't go to the Celestial kingdom. The New and Everlasting Covenant is eternal marriage, not polygamy. See D&C 132:7. Same thing with Emma. She would be "destroyed" if she was unfaithful to Joseph.
@EyeKnowYourRight22
@EyeKnowYourRight22 Год назад
What was that ?? She was so sweet and innocent then she got really mean/evil towards the end.
@Daegu-Dawg
@Daegu-Dawg Год назад
He might have let some frustration get to him, but I challenge you to Biblically refute anything he said.
@landerbelair8166
@landerbelair8166 5 лет назад
That dude is obviously a gift to my generation!
@Pbs-xs4xk
@Pbs-xs4xk 4 года назад
Amen my Brother!
@paradelights
@paradelights 3 года назад
Obviously
@denamiller8850
@denamiller8850 3 года назад
@@Pbs-xs4xk ++
@3rdleg151
@3rdleg151 3 года назад
U wish lol
@TheDianeticist
@TheDianeticist 3 года назад
This guy is a genius inside his own flawed worldview
@kiloknight94
@kiloknight94 Год назад
Joseph Smith said to his followers "you can be like God if you do this" Satan also said the same to Eve
@masonskaggs1711
@masonskaggs1711 5 лет назад
The guy in the red tie stands there for 10 minutes having his mind smashed to smithereens.
@johnnyavina6141
@johnnyavina6141 4 года назад
Lmao
@laurenm5053
@laurenm5053 3 года назад
He is in another video where Jeff talked to him and his wife. Really incredible
@55runescaper
@55runescaper 3 года назад
Proverbs 12 15 The way of fools seems right to them, but the wise listen to advice.
@silverbullet2008bb
@silverbullet2008bb 3 года назад
LMFAO! 🤣😂🤣🤣😂👍
@realestatevids3517
@realestatevids3517 5 лет назад
Basically her whole defense was, "I don't know what's true, so I'm believing this without any evidence. And your evidence doesn't count."
@Cincy_Kid
@Cincy_Kid 5 лет назад
Oh the irony of this statement
@robertrosskopf4641
@robertrosskopf4641 5 лет назад
Actually, her defense was that that God revealed the truth to her through the Holy Ghost. That is the very best of evidence. The rationalizations of Jeff are the worst of evidence.
@robertrosskopf4641
@robertrosskopf4641 4 года назад
@Gabrielle Shull It would be the best of evidence for you. What would you want more than the testimony of God? I, however, would be foolish to trust just your word on the subject. But I would accept the word of God. I trust him implicitly. By the mouths of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
@danielmoore4024
@danielmoore4024 4 года назад
@Gabrielle Shull Just because people are in different churches doesn't mean God won't manifest more truth through the power of the Holy Ghost to anyone who looks and asks. The problem (problem might be the wrong word) is because other Christians believe their doctrine contains everything they don't look or ask for truth because they think there's no more to find. God will judge everyone accordingly including for the desires of our hearts, if it's someone's desire to know the truth about God and follow the example the best they can God will reward them for their good works and desires.
@lukeiify
@lukeiify 3 года назад
@@robertrosskopf4641 That is idiotic. What do you say to the muslims who say that Allah has revealed the truth to them? Would you again say that it would be the best evidence of what is true? So by that standard we don’t if anything we believe is true. We all just make it up in our heads, its our feelings that decide truth. This goes against Christianity.
@justinfacer6332
@justinfacer6332 4 года назад
I was born in Brigham city Utah and Jeff has really helped me see the truth.
@cinnamondan4984
@cinnamondan4984 4 года назад
Justin Facer Disproving the mythology and lore if the Church is not that challenging, but proving that The Bible is infallible is nothing short of impossible.
@NicholasproclaimerofMessiah
@NicholasproclaimerofMessiah 4 года назад
@@cinnamondan4984 God does the impossible. Let me ask you about two predictions made by the Bible. 1) That the Scriptures would not be lost. 2) That Messiah (Christ) is the Lord Of Glory which means the Supreme Of Fame. So, today the most famous document is the Bible and the most famous person ever, and by a HUGE margin, is Messiah. These two predictions came true. What is the probability that a crucified rabbi would become the most famous person to ever live? How many people were predicted by ancient writings to be The Lord Of Fame? What are the odds that the one predicted to be the Lord Of Fame would also be indisputably the Lord Of Fame? I'm not trying to say this is science, but we can apply some scientific standards. Prediction, testing, observation, and repeatability of testing. Messiah being the Lord Of Fame is observed repeatedly, tested repeatedly, and it was predicted to be so. The best possible scientific approach on the matter indicates a valid theory that Scripture is reliable because it makes drastic predictions which are very well verified to be fact. Is this proof? No, but it is the best we have to work with. Do you think we should ignore the best evidence on the matter because it's impossible to prove this way? To be clear, God can and does prove His Scriptures, to each individual in a distinct and special way in order to achieve something extremely important in each individual. Impossible to prove? Maybe, but God does the impossible. Disproving doctrines held by churches is not the same as disproving God Messiah. There are some doctrines in most churches which are not Biblical, so it is not challenging to disprove those false doctrines. Example: eternal torture in Hell. In the Bible, the word "Hell" refers to either Sheol/Hades which is simply the Grave (Hades is a translation of Hebrew Sheol, it's not speaking of Greek Hades) or else Gehenna/The-Lake-Of-Fire which is where sin and the devil and his angels and death will all be destroyed in fire as garbage (Gehenna was a garbage dump where trash was burned). Those who did not trust Messiah in this earthly time will be shamed at the Judgement, specifically the Greek says "belittle/dwarf" or "descend" which are both translated in English as "torment" (not "torture"). The idea of eternal torture is from a poetic novel called "Dante's Divine Comedy" written only 700 years ago, specifically the portion referred to as "Dante's Inferno", and it's based on Greek mythology with fire added to coincide with fire in the Bible. The word Hell is actually Norse pagan Hel and has nothing to do with Christianity. So that myth is easy to refute, I agree, but Messiah never taught that myth. Peace to you fellow human.
@carlroberts7563
@carlroberts7563 4 года назад
Save some Maddox Chicken do not eat it all man!
@carlroberts7563
@carlroberts7563 4 года назад
Easy way snuff out LDS. Nothing needed restoring that is whole point of Jesus Christ who came 2000 years ago!
@justinfacer6332
@justinfacer6332 4 года назад
@@cinnamondan4984 OK Commie. Go worship Mao you clown.
@Natalie82170
@Natalie82170 Год назад
Thank you, Pastor. As a 6th generation Mormon who left the church when I was young, I still can't get all the way out of it. Your videos are helping me to do so but I ask for your prayers as I feel I'm under attack and just can't completely get away from the LDS church.
@ginabraswell5234
@ginabraswell5234 Год назад
Praying for you, Natalie! Do you feel you're having trouble leaving LDS beliefs, or what do you mean? Would love some clarity to know how to beat pray for you.
@jackashbaugh6372
@jackashbaugh6372 Год назад
​@nataliemorgan6848 absolutely not! Sending extra prayers for you. Please surround yourself with some Christians. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@MichaelBuckley284
@MichaelBuckley284 Год назад
​@Natalie82170 This is not to be invasive, and you don't have to answer to us here. But, from your account, I could not tell if you have just left the Mormon church and are now agnostic (I know some agnostics that ask for prayers is why I ask), or have turned to biblical Christianity. My reason for wondering is that scripturally, Satan and his demons have rule over the earth prior to Christ's return (Ephesians 2:1-2; John 12:31) . And seeing as an Angel appeared to Joseph Smith and taught a Gospel contrary to that taught in the scriptures, if an angel truly taught it to him, it is an accursed, fallen angel (demon). Scripture teaches us that Satan can masquerade as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14), and this seems consistent with other false Gospels (e.g. Islam having an angel show up and teach a false path to God). This to say, that since it seems to be a demonic religion, and Satan has power over the earth, he and his fallen angels can bring hardships against you, especially if you are not under the protection of God. We know from Job that Satan can do nothing apart from God's permission as it relates to God's people (Job 1:9-12), but we also know that God does not test us beyond what we can endure (1 Corinthians 10:13). So my encouragement to you, would be to not return to the LDS church, as it may provide temporary relief (as that of a prisoner of war returning to their captor under pretense of more food and water, and rest; and this for a time, yet they are still a captive). But what good is the temporary, and fleeting comforts of this world, compared to eternal comfort in God? And if, you are in Christ, you can turn to God for comfort and perseverance, knowing and trusting that he is a Good Father who can provide comfort, but also knowing that he tests our faith at times, as a blacksmith refines his metal so does God test us to make our faith shine brighter (1 Peter 1:6-7). But take heart, if you are in the Lord because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the World (1 John 4:4). It is very interesting that you go through this, because it sounds similar to accounts I've heard of people leaving Santeria, and many other false religions. You should check out the Cultish (same group as Jeff Durbin) video interview with a young man that left Santeria, you may find his testimony to be encouraging since it is similar experiences as to what you are going through (the "saints" told him that they would take away his career and relationships if he would not maintain their altar, and he lost those when he left and was afflicted by sleep paralysis when he left. And if you felt compelled to go back, because it was some time ago you reached out, do know that God is merciful and longs to have the wayward return to his fold (Luke 15:11-32). I'll be praying for you!
@jjwiggs28
@jjwiggs28 3 месяца назад
I pray you see the light, fully. May God bless you!
@j.vanbreugel2378
@j.vanbreugel2378 3 месяца назад
🙏
@williamsims4646
@williamsims4646 5 лет назад
This girl's spiritual journey has had her dabbling in everything, no wonder she is lost.
@benjaminlayton9327
@benjaminlayton9327 3 года назад
I actually admire her for it. It proves her efforts to find the truth are sincere. She didn't simply settle with the first thing she believed.
@MarieZ-uh1tn
@MarieZ-uh1tn 3 года назад
You took the word right out my mouth. Complete agree with you!
@jessie.juxtapose
@jessie.juxtapose 3 года назад
@@benjaminlayton9327 so true and why I think for sure one day God will lead her out of this one too.
@cochisecarter6298
@cochisecarter6298 3 года назад
Amen brother you can tell, and forgive me but she seems like one of those hippie types lol but in far more serious terms,I really hope that God the real one, will remove the veil from her eyes.
@cochisecarter6298
@cochisecarter6298 3 года назад
@@benjaminlayton9327 you think it's a positive thing,to continue to keep switching your beliefs like you do your shoes?? That that behavior,is going to lead to stability and truth??? It means she's easily uprooted, and that is not a good thing, and clearly it hasn't worked for her so far.I still pray that God will open her eyes even yet!
@bronzesnake7004
@bronzesnake7004 5 лет назад
Their false church makes the same "promise" to them that satan promised Adam and Eve, that they would be as God. That should be a red flag to these people. Great work pastor Durbin. Jack -Canada
@robertrosskopf4641
@robertrosskopf4641 5 лет назад
Read your bible. "And they became as God, knowing good and evil..." Satan wasn't lying about that.
@bronzesnake7004
@bronzesnake7004 5 лет назад
Robert Rosskopf - You Said - "Read your bible. "And they became as God, knowing good and evil..." Satan wasn't lying about that." So, you believe Adam & Eve became "Gods" then? First of all how much more condescending and arrogant can you be brother? "read your bible"!?? Wow. And how ironic it is where you suggest I don't read, or know my Bible, when it turns out YOU need to read YOUR Bible, and it wouldn't hurt to re read my posts again also!! So, they not only did NOT become "gods" they were warned by Jesus in person that if they disobeyed the Lord's warning they would lose their immortality and die, and they would be ejected from the paradise garden God - Jesus Christ created for them!! Read my post again brother - "Their false church makes the same "promise" to them that satan promised Adam and Eve, that (they would be as God). That should be a red flag to these people. " They did NOT become "gods" they DID comprehend they had done something incredibly wicked and dangerous! For the first time they knew the difference between good and evil. I could go down such a deep rabbit hole here, revealing what the actual original "sin" was that Adam, Eve and satan got up to but it would take a LOT of time and space! Still, if anyone wants to know, let me know and I'll be very happy to reveal what it was that was so wicked it got Adam & Eve booted out of the garden, and they also were stripped of their immortality and they did eventually die, just as God told them! Take care brother Jack - Canada Manly ~'()'~
@robertrosskopf4641
@robertrosskopf4641 5 лет назад
@@bronzesnake7004 I like your avatar. It's too bad that the bronze snake was ultimately melted down. Perhaps both of us are condescending. You said "Their false church makes the same 'promise' to them that satan promised Adam and Eve". The Lord also makes the same promise in Revelation 3:21. I discovered for myself that the LDS church is not a "false church". The Lord is the head of our church, and we have the Gift of the Holy Ghost. Ancient Christian doctrines, long forgotten, were restored through divine revelation through modern prophets. This is one of them - that men can become like God. This idea offended the Romans, but it is nonetheless a core doctrine of Christianity. God became man, so that we could become like God. It was Jesus who condescended, giving up his title to come to earth and be born as a helpless baby. He showed us the way to be perfect, like our father in heaven is perfect.
@paulrichards383
@paulrichards383 5 лет назад
@@robertrosskopf4641 heresy! Christ never gave up any title. Pretty much everything you said is bologna. God manifested in the flesh (Jesus) yet was still 100% God. You seriously lack history as well as theology. The Romans didn't have any issue with becoming a god. Just like Mormonism, they believed in many gods and even some rulers, such as Augustus, claimed to be god. There are no lost doctrines, but as my pastor said, Mormonism is gnostic. So if these gnostic writings are your lost doctrines, then it's no wonder why you are lost.
@paulrichards383
@paulrichards383 5 лет назад
You will never be perfect. You will never be Holy or eternally divine. The very fact that you don't know the real nature of God and prefer to be deceived proves that you cannot be perfect as lying isn't a characteristic of God. By the way, Adam knew what he was doing. Eve was deceived. Satan twisted the truth and she let her feelings convince her of that lie. Funny how Adam and Eve's eyes were open to their transgression, but Robert's eyes are not.
@someguy9571
@someguy9571 5 лет назад
The red tie guy seems to be the only one willing to take in truth.
@monkeyandtangerines3621
@monkeyandtangerines3621 5 лет назад
He even ask legit good question
@Erick-vr9lv
@Erick-vr9lv 5 лет назад
no..that guyslistening to a fool and doesnt know heshoulda already been gone
@someguy9571
@someguy9571 5 лет назад
@@Erick-vr9lv In what way is what he said foolish?
@YAHOOISNOTG
@YAHOOISNOTG 5 лет назад
@iraje hall if the roman catholic church is the only true church how do you explain all the inconsistencies like the pope committing heresy and nuns being sexually abused and mistreated by priests and bishops?
@YAHOOISNOTG
@YAHOOISNOTG 5 лет назад
@iraje hall The problem is that the catholic church claims to be the one and only true church established by God himself, so i guess you don't agree with that? My point is that how can the "true" church of God be corrupt? Therefore the catholic church is not the true church like it claims to be, it's simplyjust a religion based on Judaeo Christian teachings
@Spencersje500
@Spencersje500 3 года назад
You can tell she knew she was wrong and in my opinion she was trying to keep from getting emotional, she’s emotionally exhausted because she jumps from religion to religion trying to find out what the truth is and I feel that she was disappointed because she knew she was wrong and she feels that her time is wasted because someone told her the truth about the Mormon church and she spent all that time wasted but that time wasn’t wasted because she got to hear the true Gospel. Keep praying for this girl and that she finds the truth so that the Lord can take all of her worries, depression, anxieties and fears away and that she knows who the true word of God is and that’s Jesus Christ. Thank you Jeff for having the knowledge to preach the true word of God to the ones that are lead astray, God bless you.
@lindalds
@lindalds 2 года назад
*_You can tell she knew she was wrong and in my opinion she was trying to keep from getting emotional, she’s emotionally exhausted because she jumps from religion to religion trying to find out what the truth is and I feel that she was disappointed because she knew she was wrong and she feels that her time is wasted because someone told her the truth about the Mormon church and she spent all that time wasted but that time wasn’t wasted because she got to hear the true Gospel_* That is definitely in the running for longest sentence. I was out of breath just reading it silently! I don't think that she thought she was wrong. She held her own pretty darn good!
@IamGreatsword
@IamGreatsword Год назад
@@lindalds Nah, she was outclassed by a person filled with the HOLY SPIRIT She, like you, if LDS are lost in your sins and trespasses. Repent and believe on the Creator of all things JESUS CHRIST, Not the blasphemous false Jesus of Mormonism. You will have no excuse when you stand Before Almighty God on Judgement Day because of this warning and the Testimony of the TRUTH, WAY & LIFE.
@lindalds
@lindalds Год назад
@@IamGreatsword I didn’t realize that our Lord Jesus Christ appointed you to be my final judge. Or even your Lord Jesus Christ, if you say yours is different. Frankly, I would not want yours, as yours takes people who are earnestly and sincerely seeking God’s will in their lives, and throws them into an eternal barbecue pit because they joined a church that you don’t like or believe. I believe that the Holy Spirit has led me to where God wants me. Now, do I listen to you? Or the Holy Spirit?
@IamGreatsword
@IamGreatsword Год назад
@@lindalds Sadly you sound like your headed to a place (Gehena) not intended for God's Image bearers because you are obviously not called (at least at this time) according to his The True Trinity, God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit's All one in essence but three distinct persons Co-Eternal Co-Equal In a heirachical perfect relationship with each others purpose. You do not seem to understand God has perfect Standards and hates with a Capital H Presumption & Sin I am not your Final Judge God is and he again has perfect standards that nobody can avoid excepting they be washed in the Blood of Jesus the True Messiah not the brother of Lucifer Not created (besides his Human Body). You Claim a different Gospel a different Jesus and put your trust in a False Profit/Teacher Joseph 'The Charlatan Shuxster' Smith. So I don't know you but can make a discerning guess that you in your current state will be in hell, if you do not get the call for redemption From the True Jesus, a forever ruined vessel for his wrath.
@michaelcrowley9008
@michaelcrowley9008 8 месяцев назад
It's hard to not get emotional when you're defending what you know by your own experiences with God to be true. The fact of the matter is Jeff continually gives his own definition of scripture without proving his point. His ideas are askew from God even though his mind is made up that he has it all correct.
@bddmhopp5
@bddmhopp5 3 года назад
The “default “ answer , no matter Catholic or LDS is to claim a problem with “translation of languages “
@levimalone4433
@levimalone4433 3 года назад
Yep the oldest closet to the birth of christ translations with the least amount of room for error are wrong but this translation from somebody else thousands of years later is right
@cameronmartin5583
@cameronmartin5583 3 года назад
Don’t forget the 400+ different Bible versions.
@christisgreaterthanculture9255
@christisgreaterthanculture9255 2 года назад
@@cameronmartin5583 we still have the greek lol
@skippy8696
@skippy8696 Год назад
Aside from the whole debate concerning whether or not Mary had other children, I don't see how Catholic people do this. If you can think of another example then let me know. It's a far-fetched comparison, putting Catholicism in the same category as Mormonism.
@lewisbeeman
@lewisbeeman 6 лет назад
Man, this guy is a scriptural genius.
@krametorgsite
@krametorgsite 6 лет назад
machine
@unholywarrior9007
@unholywarrior9007 6 лет назад
If he is so good at scripture read Ezekiel 1 vs 1 Ezekiel sees God. Ezekiel 1 vs 24 vise of the almighty Ezekiel 1 vs 26 God in the likeness and appearance of a man
@bsoakininsunshine
@bsoakininsunshine 6 лет назад
lewisbeeman All apologetic Christians are supposed to know the bible front and back. But yes, Jeff is amazing. Not only does he know the bible, he is gifted to share it with others in a way they can understand it. God chose carefully with this one.
@johnmorpheus120
@johnmorpheus120 6 лет назад
2 Timothy 2:15 King James Version (KJV) 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
@johnmorpheus120
@johnmorpheus120 6 лет назад
1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
@adrianaalonzo121
@adrianaalonzo121 4 года назад
currently on a Jeff Durbin binge as I prepare for a Mormon Bible study I was invited to by a missionary I've been talking to for a week. Praying that the Lord will give me the words to speak to their hearts and that we can have a respectful and open conversation as we all seek truth together.
@blakeedwards5705
@blakeedwards5705 Год назад
I feel sorry for all 3 of them, but also hopeful for the Truth seed planted this night. Thank you so much Jeff for caring about these people. It's heart-breaking to realize how much more lost someone indoctrinated by lies truly is than a non believer, someone unsure/confused or one that's never heard The Gospel or The Name of Jesus. I pray The Holy Spirit keeps tugging on the veils over each of their eyes and the walls built around their hearts. I pray that whatever pushed the lady that left, away from the Methodist Church, a new path back opens up for her in her life adding to her a simple encounter with The One and Only, Jesus Christ. In Jesus' Glorified and Holy Name I pray these things. Amen.
@jayhart2899
@jayhart2899 6 лет назад
I hope she finds the true Jesus and the real gospel
@dietitianlovesjesus6968
@dietitianlovesjesus6968 6 лет назад
Jay Hart me too
@Maji777111
@Maji777111 5 лет назад
She has.
@Maji777111
@Maji777111 5 лет назад
Mankind so busy fighting about who right they seem to think God not aware this is why christians can end up in underworlds because of pride. Mankind has majorly underestimated the wisdom of God, ill tell you one mystery to put end to ppls debating the world was lost none had it right Satan infiltrated everything, God forsaw it all let it be planned to undo it in last days, so that all satans works of cunning his snares could be undone. So in truth it not about which religion you are but the life your living if you are found righteous God will insure your saved regardless.
@lindalds
@lindalds 5 лет назад
She did.
@rodneysettle8106
@rodneysettle8106 5 лет назад
I would hope she came to the logical conclusion that none of it is real.
@steelmilkjug
@steelmilkjug 6 лет назад
"You've got to learn to become gods, like all gods before you." - Joseph Smith. WOW. If you cannot hear the voice and heart of Satan in that, you don't have ears that hear.
@victheflick9644
@victheflick9644 6 лет назад
Jon Mathews well said man.
@James-lw3gi
@James-lw3gi 6 лет назад
cindybin2001 lol, it’s not that we don’t understand the concept. It’s that we disagree vehemently that it’s what is taught by the bible. This very topic was brought up a lot in the vid. The bible is very clear about it. What Joseph Smith espoused is in conflict with the scripture.
@jamiesamchez3061
@jamiesamchez3061 6 лет назад
I am right there with you Jon! Wow
@benjaminluebbert3716
@benjaminluebbert3716 6 лет назад
This is exactly how man fell in the garden. “If you eat the fruit, you will be like God.” *Adam and Eve eat fruit to become like God*
@Ana_Cecilia615
@Ana_Cecilia615 6 лет назад
I know. It is seriously so sad. That is exactly the manipulation of the enemy. If we actually believe that we can become a God, then we really do not believe in who God says he is. There is no humility in the idea of becoming a God. That is simply arrogant to put it nicely. What I don't understand is how these people just totally butcher up the Bible and say it's corrupt and badly translated, yet pull things out from the Bible to try to prove their no evidence based Book of Mormon right. It makes me want to bang my head against a wall watching these people defend their cult.
@dannygillmusic
@dannygillmusic 6 лет назад
To those criticizing Jeff: He’s doing EXACTLY what Jesus commanded, go and do likewise!
@benjaminluebbert3716
@benjaminluebbert3716 6 лет назад
How is it wrong to share the truth? He has never put down Mormons. He is refuting Mormon doctrine with Scripture
@benjaminluebbert3716
@benjaminluebbert3716 6 лет назад
Would you say it’s terrible to “put down” Islam by using Scripture to refute its doctrine?
@advenassaurus5670
@advenassaurus5670 6 лет назад
I invite as well to read the Bible.
@advenassaurus5670
@advenassaurus5670 6 лет назад
I know Mormons read the Bible. I gave that answer to underline the conflicting theologies that both books display. But maybe that's the difference ebtween us, I believe that what keeps nearer Jesus is my faith and His grace not the church.
@advenassaurus5670
@advenassaurus5670 6 лет назад
Wow! You didn't overreact at all. Can't you see the dichotomy? Where you are telling me that I am telling your church is fake while you are basically saying the same about me. You didn't get the point that you are still putting your faith on Church not on Him.
@chrisholt4804
@chrisholt4804 2 года назад
Actually, more members are being lost by the day. She is just clueless on numbers and facts. Again, I used to be LDS and as soon as I started doing my own research that's when the real problems began. God bless Jeff.
@lindalds
@lindalds 2 года назад
I don't think that "more members are being lost by the day" is accurate. It seems to me, listening to all these former members of teh church, that most of them, if not all, never really paid attention during Sunday School, or General Conference, or whatever. They never read the scriptures. D&C 121:37 That they may be conferred upon us, it is true; but when we undertake to cover our sins, or to gratify our pride, our vain ambition, or to exercise control or dominion or compulsion upon the souls of the children of men, in any degree of unrighteousness, (I might add, never really learned what the church believes), behold, the heavens withdraw themselves; the Spirit of the Lord is grieved; and when it is withdrawn, Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man. 38 Behold, ere he is aware, he is left unto himself, to kick against the pricks, to persecute the saints, and to fight against God.
@chrisholt4804
@chrisholt4804 2 года назад
@@lindalds so again. What does that have anything to do with the major contradictions the Bible teaches in comparison to the book of Mormon? Ya gotta stay focused here.
@lindalds
@lindalds 2 года назад
@@chrisholt4804 give me chapter and verse where the Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible.
@chrisholt4804
@chrisholt4804 2 года назад
@@lindalds are you kidding? First off the Bible states that there is no god before him or after... Literally, the Jesus Christ of latter day saints believe you can become a god. That's one of many... Please do your research. You will find truth
@lindalds
@lindalds 2 года назад
@@chrisholt4804 I said, I want chapter and verse from the Book of Mormon that contradicts the Bible. As to "become a god". What DOES the Bible say? This is from the Topical guide in our scriptures, subject "Man, potential to become like Heavenly Father". There is no subheading of "man, becoming a god". Now, tell me how these verses do NOT say that we can become as God is. Leviticus 19:2 Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the Lord your God am holy. 1 Peter 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. Galatians 4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ. Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
@EliCamacho
@EliCamacho 6 лет назад
The reason why she wouldn't admit the contradictions she believes in is because if she did she will have admitted to her walking into yet another false religion which, as she stated herself, was the last thing she wanted to do. So admitting the obvious contradictions will have been a blow to her ego. She knows she's walking on a false path though.
@EliCamacho
@EliCamacho 6 лет назад
Then you don't understand how an argument is actually formed if you think both were just pulling "mental gymnastics". You most likely also don't know what Mormonism or Christianity teaches. There can only be one truth. Why you disagree with both is because you don't believe either. Truth is true whether you believe in it or not. That's universally true. Saying "I believe what I'm saying is true because I believe it's true" is called circular reasoning.
@bsoakininsunshine
@bsoakininsunshine 6 лет назад
Eli Camacho Thank you for pointing that out! Honestly, I thought she was pretty, then the more she talked, satan revealed himself.
@Rín-wín
@Rín-wín 5 лет назад
@Chris Smith, it all went right over your head. I feel bad for you buddy
@lindalds
@lindalds 5 лет назад
@@EliCamacho *Truth is true whether you believe in it or not* Just remember that when you realize that you are wrong, especially about us.
@qflexmoves
@qflexmoves 5 лет назад
Agreed. I believe at the moment, it was a pride issue. She was in front of a camera and amongst her peers, etc. I believe if she were alone and it was a one on one conversation at a coffee shop, she would’ve been less defensive and possibly more open minded to being wrong... again.
@anthonyrock6331
@anthonyrock6331 8 лет назад
As an Ex-mormon, and now Born again believer in the lord Jesus Christ, there's some things I'd like to address in this video. Jeff, the point you make about Mormons worshiping another Jesus that can't save is spot on. The problem here is that Mormons don't worry about "Salvation" the same way we do as Christians. They believe that the atonement of "lucifer's brother" saves everyone, even those who don't believe in Jesus at all. So according to mormons, even muslims are "saved". So Mormons already believe they're saved automatically. Mormons' goal is to reach the highest degree of heaven (celestial kingdom) by their obedience to mormon laws and ordinances. It's important to make them understand our sin nature and HOW we are made right with god (ephesians 2:8-9). Mormons don't believe in hell either, and obviously they don't trust the bible. Mormons don't understand how fallen we are from God, and how serious our sin separates us from God. They have a very self-centered , self-righteousness approach to salvation. It's important to debunk that ideology (Romans 3:10, Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23). They need to realize they are not right with GOd, that they are still in their sins and on their way to hell.
@ApologiaStudios
@ApologiaStudios 8 лет назад
+Anthony Rock Thanks, Anthony. Perhaps you missed the parts of the video where she was told she was going to die in her sins and that salvation was through faith apart from works of Law (Romans 3:28)? Blessings to you.
@anthonyrock6331
@anthonyrock6331 8 лет назад
+Apologia Studios I didn't miss anything, I know He mentioned it. The problem here is that even their "Jesus" doesn't play a big role in their religion. His part in "heavenly father's" plan for mankind was just to atone for sins in the garden of gethsemane (yes they believe that), and that's about it. His part is done, now everyone is automatically saved, regardless of beliefs (according to mormonism). Mormons aren't trying to make themselves right with God, they already believe they are automatically right with God because of the atonement of their false Jesus. What they're trying to do is work to godhood and gain more blessings in heaven by obeying mormon laws and ordinances. They call that "eternal progression". Everyone starts "saved" in mormonism and they're just trying to progress to a higher level. So it's great to let them know they have a false Christ, but they don't even care much about their own Christ, let alone the biblical Jesus. They have a lot of unlearning to do as mormons. They believe that we are all spirit babies of heavenly father, including Jesus and Lucifer. So the idea that Jesus and Satan are brothers makes sense to them. They'll just say,"well yeah, satan is everybody's brother because we're all children of God". We as biblical Christians know that obviously isn't the case. (,Colossians 1:16, John 1:12 - "Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to BECOME children of God"). I'd also like to add that, even Mormon doctrine contradicts the book of mormon. So 2Nephi 25:23 is not really taught in Mormonism. Never is a Mormon taught that they have to obey mormon laws and ordinances for salvation. They're not trying to be saved, they're not worried about that. It's exaltation (becoming a god) that's their main goal, not salvation. Even though the reality is their false religion is only keeping them on the path to hell. They need to know they're still in their sins, that Jesus' atonement doesn't make everybody automatically saved regardless of one's beliefs, They need to know like everyone without Christ that they have a judgment against them and only faith alone in the biblical Jesus can erase that judgment ( , hebrews 9:27, Romans 3:10, Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, Ephesians 2:8-9). Jeff Durbin has already pointed this out, but they use christian terminology but they don't mean the same thing. When Mormon missionaries knock on your door, they're not telling you how to be "saved". They don't even believe in hell. They're just indoctrinating people into a religion based on self-improvement and "Eternal progression". That's why somewhere in the video the girl interrupts Jeff and says,"do you not know the difference between salvation and exaltation?". It's a tough conversation to have with Mormons. But don't give up, Mormons do come to be saved and to know the true and living Jesus. I am living proof of that. So are my friends from Adam's road ministry. I was approached by street preachers who approached me on the street and showed me the true gospel for the first time in my life.
@toddstadel3441
@toddstadel3441 8 лет назад
+Anthony Rock I would like to point out a few flaws in your statement "Mormons don't worry about their salvation like Christians do" this a blunt lie. " Deliverance from sin and death. Salvation is made possible by the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Through the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, everyone will overcome the effects of death. We can also be saved from the effects of sin through faith in Jesus Christ. This faith is manifested in a life of repentance and obedience to the laws and ordinances of the gospel and service to Christ." Lds Org
@toddstadel3441
@toddstadel3441 8 лет назад
+Anthony Rock Another Comment that is misleading "So Mormons already believe they're saved automatically" this is more a Christian stance. this comes right from the Bible "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." believe or Not.
@anthonyrock6331
@anthonyrock6331 8 лет назад
+Todd Stadel My point exactly. That "atonement" ,the single role of satan's brother is now done, now it's all about you and your progression towards Godhood. Jesus is only "one part" of heavenly father's plan for us in mormonism. Now it's all about you and your eternal progression. It's about your obedience to Mormon ordinances. I've been there, done that. Jesus' atonement in mormonism is nothing but a first step into the journey of eternal progression. All of what you stated is believed in Mormonism, but that's only one part of it. That part about salvation is done, now it's about exaltation and becoming a God. It's like a step by step instruction manual on how to become an all mighty God. Step 1: The atonement of Satan's brother (automatically saves everyone, even atheists) Step 2: Obey Mormon laws and ordinances step 3: endure to the end Step 4: Congratulations, you are now a God!". Mormons believe in salvation, but their focus is self-improvement and Exaltation. Step 1 (salvation) is done, now it's time for exaltation.
@jacksonpergley6536
@jacksonpergley6536 5 лет назад
L. Ron Hubbard has to be a descendant of Joseph Smith.
@TheNinjasniper12
@TheNinjasniper12 5 лет назад
Lol I'm laughing so hard I'm crying
@ventalexandria7727
@ventalexandria7727 5 лет назад
and Mohammed of Islam.. they retold myths they heard and called it truth.
@alvinwine5665
@alvinwine5665 5 лет назад
Yep both created false religions
@Apbt-rv7zw
@Apbt-rv7zw 4 года назад
Yeah Elvis was too... at least thats what I heard
@Apbt-rv7zw
@Apbt-rv7zw 4 года назад
@@ventalexandria7727 funny how that myth materialized in the form of Gold plates
@Susan.Pritchard
@Susan.Pritchard Год назад
I pray she opened her eyes to Truth.
@opinionatorX
@opinionatorX 5 лет назад
This is the type of studying that every professed Christian be doing to defend the faith.
@kairisdiaries5592
@kairisdiaries5592 2 года назад
Yessss
@TheChazaqingdude
@TheChazaqingdude 5 лет назад
Wow...she rattled off 8 different "faiths" she has been "lost" in...and she's still in high school?? Holy moly.
@kylebraby2357
@kylebraby2357 5 лет назад
Yeah lets put down a girl who is a seeker of truth and doing everything she can to find it. Thats better than a luke warm believer according to Jesus..... Judgemental dude
@VitorGamesPlayy
@VitorGamesPlayy 5 лет назад
@@kylebraby2357 "seeker of truth" humm.
@SupaSaulito
@SupaSaulito 5 лет назад
@@VitorGamesPlayy bruh she started off as a Muslim, give her a minute to get the reins on her life, geez
@miffylova
@miffylova 5 лет назад
Agreed with Kyle. She’s searching for truth, we need to pray for her and others that are searching for truth, in the wrong areas. That they can open their eyes
@snowviolet508
@snowviolet508 5 лет назад
It’s sad. And it’s a sign that she had horrible parents who didn’t value or love her. It’s not her fault she is seeking approval like this.
@Chris24Ali
@Chris24Ali 5 лет назад
It’s amazing just how gracious God is by sending her Jeff Durbin to proclaim the true Gospel. Yet, she still rejects. I pray that the seed is planted and that the Holy Spirit opens her eyes to the truth.
@lindalds
@lindalds 4 года назад
Just maybe God in His graciousness is sending HER to proclaim the true Gospel to Jeff Durbin.
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 4 года назад
@@lindalds The BoM is a 19th century work of fiction with parts taken from the erroneous KJV. There is no way around that.
@lindalds
@lindalds 4 года назад
@@LadyMaria you haven't looked for a way around it.
@zanecameron32
@zanecameron32 Год назад
Head strong and haughty, i pray that Jesus Christ the living God reveals himself to this girl 🙏🌈✝️
@athenasmith5866
@athenasmith5866 3 года назад
I honestly think she’s just hurt from trying to find truth but being led astray
@adamweidemoyer9800
@adamweidemoyer9800 Год назад
I thought the exact same thing.
@athenasmith5866
@athenasmith5866 Год назад
@@adamweidemoyer9800 been there. I grew up in different denominations of Christianity ✝️ my whole life and when I studied the Bible with this group I found out I wasn’t Christian and I was livid when they told me lol a form of pride but I had to face it because Bible doesn’t lie
@Kman.
@Kman. 7 лет назад
WOW...the Mormon and his wife standing to this girl's left side are featured in another video! That young man is HUNGRY for truth! I don't know which video was put out 1st, but he was dialed in. The REASON is because he knows deep inside that what he's been following is not biblical. He waited patiently to speak with Jeff.
@polyesterhat
@polyesterhat 5 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1lyQibl1pac.html
@rikardotsamsiyu
@rikardotsamsiyu 3 года назад
"So, you went from a monotheistic religion to a polytheistic religion." Why does Jeff have to be so savage right away?
@lindalds
@lindalds 3 года назад
Because he's afraid. He probably has his rea$on$ for what he does. The t hing is, that I know he probably tries to question LDS who absolutely PWND him, but I don't see any videos like that. This is as close as it gets.
@yaruqadishi8326
@yaruqadishi8326 3 года назад
@@lindalds he pwned her and stop her running away and shes Palestinian like me i feel sad now. I find her and covert her out and save jesus christ power all that you hate and dont know. Sad sad. Lucifer is your "savior" satan smith your master in hell.
@rikardotsamsiyu
@rikardotsamsiyu 3 года назад
@@yaruqadishi8326 what? 😂 😆
@yaruqadishi8326
@yaruqadishi8326 3 года назад
@@rikardotsamsiyu you heard me sir
@rikardotsamsiyu
@rikardotsamsiyu 3 года назад
@@yaruqadishi8326 I did. I just don’t know WTH you said.
@tinac3473
@tinac3473 2 года назад
Does she know she's in a cult
@juancotton2
@juancotton2 5 лет назад
“But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:8‬ ‭
@Apbt-rv7zw
@Apbt-rv7zw 4 года назад
"And ye shall know the truth,and the truth shall make you free" John 8:32 That young lady spoke freely... poor ole Jeff was getting a bit tongue tied
@lindalds
@lindalds 4 года назад
Galatians 1: 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Let's break this down. _But though we_ ...We, meaning the apostles of Christ, including Paul. _Or an angel from heaven_ ...Or *EVEN IF* an angel from heaven. Angel=messenger Heaven=God So, even if a messenger from God So, even if it means Moroni, he *was* an angel from heaven, or a messenger from God. And God doesn't send angels with messages that are not from Him. _Preach any other gospel unto you_ ...If you read the second chapter of Galatians, you will see what the "other gospel" Paul was referring to and it has nothing to do with Moroni or the Book of Mormon, etc. And what is "Gospel"? It is the good news of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. 1 Cor. 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Context.
@Apbt-rv7zw
@Apbt-rv7zw 4 года назад
@@lindalds well said lindalds
@lindalds
@lindalds 4 года назад
@@Apbt-rv7zw Thank you!
@protruth1
@protruth1 4 года назад
lindalds Any other gospel, do you get it now?
@milleniummoses
@milleniummoses 5 лет назад
Her immaturity is painfully evident. Let's keep her in prayer
@grahamdillinger7338
@grahamdillinger7338 4 года назад
She's a teenager. Expect anything less?
@Apbt-rv7zw
@Apbt-rv7zw 4 года назад
She's a teenager who believes in Jesus and God. A lot of older people don't even have a faith or believe in Jesus. Stop knocking her for have faith in the Lord... least by the same judgment; you are judged. Don't look for the mote when there's a beam in our own eye.
@Apbt-rv7zw
@Apbt-rv7zw 4 года назад
@Emilio Coldblooded Bronson I know that's what you believe... but she and many others of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints absolutely have faith in the only one and true Jesus Christ of the bible. The name of the LDS faith is named after Jesus Christ, something that many other churches don't acknowledge Jesus at a faith. They pray to God the Father in the Name of Jesus Christ. In LDS teachings Jesus is termed as the Cornerstone from which all other stones take their foundation from. Jesus is both God, Redeemer, Creator and the Saviour of the world. Salvation is only from and through the Son of God Jesus Christ who came to do the will of His Father. Jesus is loved, honoured, revered and known as the Mediator between God and man. I'm unclear as to how you see Jesus not part of the LDS faith and part of bible scripture?
@danstephensen9902
@danstephensen9902 4 года назад
What about your own immaturity and this Elitist, judgemental attitude of yours? And you call yourself Christian? Go Pray for yourself Homey God spits people like you right out of his mouth, and you KNOW this. you only follow the mockingbird popular dogma, not pure meaning at all. "Mormon" prayers are just as effective as yours. Much healing, brightness, atonement and fulfillment is found through the Restored Gospel than you will ever know, so just Get OVER yourself and your MOCKING attitudes. It's not pretty, Bro! Not at all. If there is any among you without sin..... C'mon Man!! Try some maturity for yourself and also some pure knowledge. Mark hates people like you and Jeff, really. Trickery, mockery etc. is NOT of God and this dude will meet his Maker in sad fashion.
@danielmoore4024
@danielmoore4024 4 года назад
@Emilio Coldblooded Bronson I didn't hear of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints until I were 25, I was always looking for a Church that works in the same way as the Church in The New Testament organised by Christ and the Apostles. We can look at a specific situation that shows us ancient Christians did lose some truths after the death of the Apostles and that after the death of the Apostles heretics and false doctrine were inevitable. Paul described the Lord's Church as built upon a foundation of apostles and prophets with Christ as the chief corner stone. Peter, James and John were the first presidency and the central authority laid upon them. In Mark 3 Christ chose and ordained his apostles with the laying on of hands to preach. In Luke 10 Christ chose another 70 to serve as The Seventy. In Acts 6 the Apostles through continuing revelation called 7 assistants to be the Presidency of the Seventy. In Acts 9 Christ calls Saul to be an Apostle, Apostles don't call Apostles, with Christ as the chief corner stone He always chose who the Apostles were. Paul was not defined an Apostle until after the laying on of hands. Philip was only allowed to preach and baptize people in Samaria, that's why Peter and John had to attend in order for those who chose to be baptized to receive the Holy Ghost. Acts 8:14-17 14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: ......... 17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. Philip did not possess the priesthood authority to gift people with the holy ghost, he only had the priesthood authority to preach and baptize. In order to serve in the Lord's Church in the New Testament priesthood authority was required. Acts 6:5-6 5 ¶ And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch: 6 Whom they set before the apostles: and when they had prayed, they laid their hands on them. Stephen who went to preach was given priesthood authority and ordained with the laying on of hands, he didn't just go at his own pleasure. The same with Timothy later, Timothy was assigned by the Apostle Paul to serve as a Bishop among the Ephesians, Timothy did not appoint himself. 1 Tim. 2:7 7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity. All Apostles, Bishops, Preachers etc. are ordained by someone with priesthood authority and assigned to serve, and there was always a laying on of hands. Has anyone assigned by apostles layed their hands upon Jeff Durbin and ordained him a preacher or has he just took up the responsibility himself without permission? He's just appointed himself and what do all self-appointed people in The New Testament end up doing? Preaching heretics and false doctrine by preaching their own understanding. Priesthood authority is essential to preaching the gospel and all priesthood keys were lost by murdering the bearers of the priesthood who were in control of who held priesthood authority. Once all those who received priesthood authority died there was no one with the authority to gift people with the holy ghost. By 325AD at The Council of Nicaea there was no apostolic power left, no one had the authority to preach nor could be ordained to preach. 325AD was the completion of the Great Apostasy, a committee of Bishops who did not possess priesthood authority having political votes over what's true and what's false. It was always plain clear to me we existed before we came to earth, at The Council of Nicaea more Bishops opposed pre-mortal life so pre-mortal life was automatically labelled heresy, today's Christianity was established through political votes, "most wins", and not revelation from God.
@billdublewhopper3064
@billdublewhopper3064 5 лет назад
It's hard to admit you were wrong.
@stevelovesgod
@stevelovesgod 5 лет назад
Admitting she walked into another false religion will be a hard truth for her to swallow. God willing she will follow Christ himself an not churches
@danielmoore4024
@danielmoore4024 4 года назад
@@stevelovesgod No one will listen to Jeff when he talks like that. Just tell someone they're wrong and insult what they believe they will automatically close off and not listen, only defend what they believe at present time without even thinking. Look at the end of John 6 when people stopped walking with Christ, how did Christ react?
@IAMBENNYBLANCO.
@IAMBENNYBLANCO. 5 месяцев назад
I have learned so much from Pastor Durbin , he is a standard to use to evangelize to the lost
@Rín-wín
@Rín-wín 5 лет назад
This young lady will have an amazing testimony once she accepts the true Jesus. God bless her!
@lindalds
@lindalds 5 лет назад
seems to me that she has both.
@robertrosskopf4641
@robertrosskopf4641 5 лет назад
She has an amazing testimony now. Did you not hear her tell about her prayer to God, and the answer she received?
@jeziscricket4448
@jeziscricket4448 5 лет назад
seems to me that she is both lost and confused
@robertrosskopf4641
@robertrosskopf4641 4 года назад
@Michael H. How can God's word be contrary to God's word? Are you suggesting that we ignore God's word, when it comes to us, but accept it only if it comes from someone else? Or perhaps we should ignore God, and just listen to the philosophies and imaginations of ministers? **Sorry, God, but that isn't what my Pastor told me the bible means...** The idea is ludicrous. It is "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding...", not "Trust in the imaginations of men with all your heart, and lean not unto divine revelation..."
@terynsales8055
@terynsales8055 4 года назад
Michael H. Amen!
@michaelwilcox8187
@michaelwilcox8187 5 лет назад
How you go from Muslim to Mormon? Both false but damn
@fmariedelgado26
@fmariedelgado26 5 лет назад
Michael Wilcox lol 😂 that’s what I’m saying
@icxcnika555
@icxcnika555 4 года назад
Easy, from one false prophet to another. Its basically the same story just different time period IMO
@sumyunguy6894
@sumyunguy6894 6 лет назад
Giver her another year, she'll convert to another religion.
@naya9305
@naya9305 6 лет назад
This will make her stronger
@nikke2404
@nikke2404 6 лет назад
This young and obviously naive girl seems to be a bit lost with the religions. She mentioned being a muslim, methodist, catholic, baptist and also involved into messianic judaism and the unity of new thought movement. Now she is a mormon but likely it won't last very long...
@cutietube9588
@cutietube9588 6 лет назад
She's just going to different religions until she feels one is right for her, and right now this is right for her, who minds if she doesn't feel it's right in a year, right now she does.
@cutietube9588
@cutietube9588 6 лет назад
Cindy, you know I wasn’t being mean here?
@JK-cz6bu
@JK-cz6bu 6 лет назад
cindybin2001 Mormonism is a total fraud filled with some nice but totally deceived people. Truth matters and scripture is to be used for tearing down every lofty thing that sets itself against Jesus/Truth/God. Get a faith based on The Bible and not a cult leader and criminal from upstate NY.
@raymondhandboy4730
@raymondhandboy4730 10 месяцев назад
I’m Lakota and our culture doesn’t teach anything close to Mormonism. I am a believer in Jesus as God now but my culture that I practiced my whole childhood and young life, never ever taught close to Joseph’s teachings.
@ccmcduck9669
@ccmcduck9669 5 лет назад
My heart goes out to her, she sounds earnest in her search for truth which is more then you can say for most people her age
@jacinths94
@jacinths94 5 лет назад
“I pray that you turn away from your sins sweetheart.” 😂😂
@Apbt-rv7zw
@Apbt-rv7zw 4 года назад
"And ye shall know the truth,and the truth shall make you free" John 8:32 That young lady spoke freely... poor ole Jeff was getting a bit tongue tied
@judahcohen588
@judahcohen588 4 года назад
Maybe you should set the stones down before you start casting them. What are her sins all knowing one? Not believing Jeff's shallow take on Christianity. Is that her sin? Are you sinless because you simply say "I believe in Christ? Just instant perfection because of that single phrase huh? That's real logical and rational. Use your brain a little bit.
@danielmoore4024
@danielmoore4024 4 года назад
@@judahcohen588 I don't understand why these other Christians claim the Latter-day Saints are blind. Things like Christ been a literal Son of the Father and brother to Satan and us they claim to be unbiblical while I see them as brothers through Isaiah 43, Isaiah 66, Revelation 12, the law of Moses been a similitude to The Atonement of Jesus Christ and Abraham sacrificing his firstborn son Isaac. Perhaps the reason they go claiming all this is unbiblical is because they're the ones not looking.
@mothermovementa
@mothermovementa 3 года назад
😂
@americanstylefreak
@americanstylefreak 6 лет назад
I am blown away by how knowledgeable Pastor Jeff is. Pastor Jeff, did you get to know Nabeel personally? :)
@TheVintageBumbleBee
@TheVintageBumbleBee 5 лет назад
Right? Crazy blessed.
@deborahbush6320
@deborahbush6320 Год назад
The problem is there’s very few churches that really teach the whole word of God 😢 thank you for your work in the lord for
@EyeKnowYourRight22
@EyeKnowYourRight22 Год назад
What was that ?? She was so sweet and innocent then she got really mean/evil towards the end.
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 Год назад
This will be an unpopular comment on this channel, but the whole truth resides in the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church which consists of Roman Catholic, Eastern Catholic, Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Assyrian Church of the East etc. If you believe Jesus and the Holy Spirit didn't fail in their promises to guide the Churches they founded, then Luther, Calvin etc. are wrong for the same reason that Mormons claiming corruption are wrong.
@BRockIITWi
@BRockIITWi 11 месяцев назад
​@@alisterrebelo9013The truth lies in God's word in the Bible, not religious organizations.
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 11 месяцев назад
@@BRockIITWi How were the early Christians practicing Christianity without a Bible until 300-500AD? The peasant class also had a 3% literacy rate. Or are you willing to saybthose Christians were not saved.
@BRockIITWi
@BRockIITWi 11 месяцев назад
@@alisterrebelo9013 Word of mouth. And read the Bible for answers. It's not my place to say who was or wasn't saved 2000 years ago. Edit: Your judgment of others and faith in a worldly organization over God's word is telling. And you assuming man is not capable of deception if they claim Catholic is ridiculous.
@robertdale9029
@robertdale9029 5 лет назад
That's satans problem to, he wants to be God.
@alchemywolf7786
@alchemywolf7786 5 лет назад
Robert Dale 👍🏼
@klinteastwood1007
@klinteastwood1007 4 года назад
We can sit here and be upset by her reaction, but wow, what a seed that was sown!! (She’s doing a lot more than I was in high school)
@TheDaves1
@TheDaves1 7 лет назад
bless here lovely girl,, but totally deceived,, everytime the Christian brought a truth,, she didn't have a proper answer
@legacy756
@legacy756 5 лет назад
she was just a kid, now ask a scholar or a senior member
@ZeddicusTheMage
@ZeddicusTheMage 5 лет назад
@@legacy756 There would be no difference.
@circleofrage
@circleofrage Год назад
You got to the bloke in the shirt and tie Jeff. You can see the wheels turning. Praise the Lord.
@michaelrivera1101
@michaelrivera1101 6 лет назад
Notice how no one had anything to say with Isaiah 43:10 "Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me". They were completely silent... We must spread the word brothers and sisters just as Pastor Jeff!
@naya9305
@naya9305 6 лет назад
Michael Rivera before Isaiah was written genisis was written and it said God created the earth. They hot God from the Hebrew word ELOHIM- which means GODS. MORE THAN ONE
@russellclaude
@russellclaude 6 лет назад
naya "they" is the Trinity. Father, Son, Spirit. There is only 1 God. He exists in 3 persons. Pretty simple. Any other explanation is not Christianity. Any other Jesus isn't the Christian Jesus.
@Ana_Cecilia615
@Ana_Cecilia615 6 лет назад
I know. Rejecting that verse is literally to accept a false God.
@danielmoore4024
@danielmoore4024 5 лет назад
Isaiah 43:10 10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Notice that "God" is a name and "god" is a noun. Deuteronomy 10:17 17 For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward: Again, notice that "God" is a name and "gods" is not a name, not a proper noun. "For the Lord your God is God of gods," That phrase makes it very clear there is more than one god, but only one God. Since your interpretation of Isaiah 43:10 conflicts Deuteronomy 10:17 you have a false interpretation. There is lots of gods but only one God to be worshipped. Do my interpretations conflict with one another? If you can't find any scriptures conflict my interpretations I've interpreted correctly.
@len2842
@len2842 5 лет назад
Michael Rivera ; so then when was the other two God's formed? After the 'one' that is mentioned in Psalms 83:18; the one that Jesus said he is returning to at John 20: 17; and which God is the God that no man can see' and yet live? We know it could not have been Jesus' for many saw Jesus and did not die' they kept on living until they died of old age' or of sickness or some unforseen occurance such' as an accident' ... just some common sense and Logic' for one to work with' God's modern times messengers Hope the best outcome for all'in the end' Hallelu-Jah' means praise Jehovah'
@JH-hx2cl
@JH-hx2cl 6 лет назад
Shes not even comprehending what hes saying.
@lindalds
@lindalds 5 лет назад
He's not comprehending what she's saying.
@Rín-wín
@Rín-wín 5 лет назад
They both comprehended eachother.
@XENOMORPH343
@XENOMORPH343 5 лет назад
lindalds he very much is comprehending what she’s saying.
@lindalds
@lindalds 5 лет назад
@@XENOMORPH343 He's comprehending what he wants to hear.
@CrustyRusty366
@CrustyRusty366 5 лет назад
@@lindalds she is contradiction all Mormon apologists.
@styleissubjective.1425
@styleissubjective.1425 4 года назад
I’m so amazed at his ability to remain patient and grounded. I’m over screaming (softly) lol at the hypocrisy and terrible arguments (or lack thereof) and how it’s so obvious that she/they have a personal egoic need or reason to hold on to their position but then HAVEN’T challenged their position to fortify it. The faces they make. The attitude. The ignorance. WHEWWWWW.
@nataliepolasek4428
@nataliepolasek4428 2 года назад
I know you made this comment a year ago but oh my goodness me too!!! This is exactly how I’m feeling watching this arrgghhh!!! The arrogance. Heartbreaking at the end of the day.
@EyeKnowYourRight22
@EyeKnowYourRight22 Год назад
What was that ?? She was so sweet and innocent then she got really mean/evil towards the end.
@karkkimarkkinat2109
@karkkimarkkinat2109 2 года назад
This gals bouncing from religion to religion... Not a sign of a very stable person. Probably bipolar or BPD. Hopefully she'll be led and find the truth some day. I can understand when someone is born mormon but to convert to it in adulthood... Holy shit. That's next level. How can anyone find that appealing in anyway... Mormonism us straight space balls.
@stephanieroberts2587
@stephanieroberts2587 5 лет назад
I'm thankful for my husband who says if your feelings contradict the word of God you do not follow your feelings. We live by the faith of the bible, the faith given to us by Jesus through His holy spirit that points to Christ alone and that is why we do not believe our feelings. They change and this young lady proves it.
@veekee75
@veekee75 2 года назад
Christianity is so blessed to have you(Jeff) as a worker for God. Praying dearly for you and your co-workers grace and protection from our Heavenly Father to continue all the awesome works you guys are doing.
@EyeKnowYourRight22
@EyeKnowYourRight22 Год назад
What was that ?? She was so sweet and innocent then she got really mean/evil towards the end.
@stephenhiggs5224
@stephenhiggs5224 2 года назад
Mormonism is very appealing. I was brought up in a Protestant home, and when I met a Mormon woman, even though she wasn't devout, the teachings still appealed to me. Their devotion and sincerity to their cause, devotion to family, the idea of being sealed to the one you loved most and being with them for all of eternity, it all sounds so great. I was to the point where I was arguing with my pastor, asking him how did he know that Joseph Smith and his teachings were wrong. I knew a lot of texts from the Bible, but I didn't KNOW the Bible or God at that point. The Bible tells us to always be ready to give an answer as to the hope that we have, and to do that we have to know our Bible and have the Holy Spirit leading us. These videos really inspire me to get deeper into the Word. That is the only way we won't be swayed by false teaching.
@lindalds
@lindalds 2 года назад
After going "deeper into the Word", I was convinced that the most Biblical church is the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints.
@benzun9600
@benzun9600 Год назад
keep on reading the bible you will understand Jeff the pastor adheres more to creeds than the actual bible
@LarryNathanielPhoto
@LarryNathanielPhoto 5 лет назад
533 Mormons dislike this 😥 but you did an amazing job here and these young Mormons definitely will not forget this challenge any time soon.
@dalisobanda5575
@dalisobanda5575 2 года назад
It's now 674
@StrategicGamesEtc
@StrategicGamesEtc 2 года назад
Ah, the good old days when we knew how many people had disliked.
@zacpohlenz5252
@zacpohlenz5252 4 года назад
“No man or prophet is completely perfect...” she says. I know of one of man who is.
@valuecalc
@valuecalc 3 года назад
Who?
@lucentgirl
@lucentgirl 3 года назад
Jesus
@YoKinah
@YoKinah 6 лет назад
I love Jeff Durbin man. My freakin brother
@valuecalc
@valuecalc 4 года назад
Shekinah Anderson , he talks too much and keeps butting in when she speaks.
@Lamberto13
@Lamberto13 8 месяцев назад
I wonder where she is at now?
@VJolie3
@VJolie3 4 года назад
Awesome job! a little too much "sweety" and "sweetheart", she's young but definitely not a kid. She did a pretty good job at debating and holding her own even though she doesn't understand the bible as well.
@smiley99
@smiley99 3 года назад
I agree. I think Jeff is speaking the truth -but some of his ways come off a bit condescending. I know he's doing it because he cares about her soul and wants her to have the truth. But there is a way to be loving and not patronizing. Jeff treads that line at times.
@yanasto
@yanasto 3 года назад
at the end she said she was still in high school, so she is a junior and I think it's okay from a pastoral perspective.
@therockstar17
@therockstar17 3 года назад
A man should not call a female acquaintance sweetie/sweetheart at all. It's not appropriate, kinda creepy, and they might take offense. Then it will hurt your witness. We should maintain professionalism.
@Mordecaigut
@Mordecaigut 3 года назад
@@therockstar17 agreed, that bothered me throughout the video. But I can’t expect perfection from any man but One
@abbyharrison7808
@abbyharrison7808 3 года назад
I agree with this but I think it might be a generational thing. I’m gen z and think it’s patronizing, but gen x thinks it’s showing care.
@VisionOnDuty
@VisionOnDuty 8 лет назад
to have admitted she was lost in like 5 different belief systems (and shes still In high school) and spoke with so much arrogance about what "she's knows" is really sad. I thank God that in his Grace he opened my eye's and gave me a desire for his word as my number one authority, even over my emotions
@tomjjackson21
@tomjjackson21 2 года назад
Though sadly mistaken, she's still light years beyond where I was at her age. I think it's strange that she's affiliated with literally a dozen religions. This was the perfect moment in her life for Jeff to meet her. It was devine, and I suspect if he were to of spoken with her 10 years from now, there's no way he would of been able to even have a discussion. Though she's incorrect, she's on fire for Christ. Hopefully that will be enough to plant the seed for change. Her patronizing condescendence at the end was really meh... Imagine that after a decade with the church.
@danielmoore4024
@danielmoore4024 2 года назад
@@tomjjackson21 Flirting with a girl who doesn't even know him, without the girl's permission, I doubt anybody would take notice of someone being so rude. How would you feel if a stranger kept calling you things like sweetie, cute, handsome etc... without your approval?
@headbangher0763
@headbangher0763 8 лет назад
when the truth convicts them and they deny it, that's when their inner demons come out.
@micahtuner7199
@micahtuner7199 8 лет назад
+HeadbangHer0 That is exactly what I believe about all of you REJECTING the True Gospel and The Book Of Mormon.
@Cindiejo1
@Cindiejo1 8 лет назад
Wow, if you have not studied it out yourself don't talk. I am a very happy member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Actually I should thank you and your clan, you just help my testimony grow that I am in the right and true church. I have cousins that are Catholic, I have no desire to be like them nor be Catholic. We were told in the last days we would be persecuted and Gospel doctrine would be twisted to make your points to the world. We believe in God the Father, His son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. We also believe Mary was a virgin when Christ was born. The new world Bibles are mans own interpretation of what they want the Bible to say. The King James is the only Bible we use, it is the most perfect bible.
@seagullfisherman5401
@seagullfisherman5401 8 лет назад
+Cindie McConkie McConkie the old leader of LDS has said some very very strange things and that man is totally wrong! Actually Virgin Mary was not virgin according to your prophets like Brigham. That would make GOD into incest like a Polygamist leader would like LOL. Brigham was horn dog had 55 wives wow what LDS person could take there obvious bull shit religion seriously.
@skippy8696
@skippy8696 6 лет назад
Criticism within a polite conversation is not persecution...I swear, all you cults think alike. If we wanted to persecute you, you'd know about it. We wouldn't be just standing around talking. I'm sure all the first and second century Christians are looking down on this and laughing.
@cierawilliams8881
@cierawilliams8881 Год назад
Wonderful job Jeff, you are full of grace and represent Christ so well. You have a gift! God Bless!
@michael7202
@michael7202 6 лет назад
37:42 She realizes everything she has been taught is a Lie after google confirmation lol.
@HAWKONER
@HAWKONER 6 лет назад
And that guy looking on his phone for answers but cant find any lol
@christiansummers562
@christiansummers562 5 лет назад
lol, she looked up isaiah 43 10...looks at it...then she looks like she about to vomit. lol
@robertrosskopf4641
@robertrosskopf4641 5 лет назад
It only takes two weeks of missionary lessons to become a member. She doesn't know everything about Mormonism, but she knows the most important thing. She knows that the LDS church is true.
@robertrosskopf4641
@robertrosskopf4641 5 лет назад
@Emilio Coldblooded Bronson So then, according to you, when the apostles felt their heart burn within them, it was because of demon spirits and not the Holy Spirit?
@robertrosskopf4641
@robertrosskopf4641 5 лет назад
@Emilio Coldblooded Bronson Satan can't imitate the Holy Ghost but he can fill a peachers head with philosophy. Preachers don't learn what the bible means by reading the bible. They learn what it means from other preachers. Thus they teach heresies while claiming the bible supports them. It is easy to get past the charade. Ask them why Paul wouldn't teach the mysteries to the Corinthians, and then ask what are the mysteries. You will get blank stares because they don't know, it isn't taught in seminary and it isn't taught in the bible. Yet it was important enough for Paul to scold the Corinthians. Cleary important parts of the gospel of Jesus Christ were lost.
@fettuccinefedy2420
@fettuccinefedy2420 5 лет назад
40:03 "The atheist believes his ancestors were fish, he evolved from the goo and now he's a philosopher" hahaha
@rikardotsamsiyu
@rikardotsamsiyu 3 года назад
- our ancestors were fish - atheists don't believe they evolved from goo hahaha
@clemsonalum98
@clemsonalum98 3 года назад
@@rikardotsamsiyu the goo was before the fish, basic evolution which you should know apparently but don’t why?
@rikardotsamsiyu
@rikardotsamsiyu 3 года назад
@@clemsonalum98 wrong! That’s not evolution at all, much less basic. Please define evolution.
@Convexhull210
@Convexhull210 3 года назад
@@rikardotsamsiyu actually that is evolution. The abiogenesis theory of evolution says that a primordial soup created the first single celled organism which than became more complex. There is no evidence to support that
@rikardotsamsiyu
@rikardotsamsiyu 3 года назад
@@Convexhull210 That’s not evolution. Also, where have you looked for the evidence? Did you consult any journals on biology or did you just listen to what a creationist told you? Because I can say Christianity is false but if all I did was listen to Richard Dawkins then my opinion is worthless.
@Richardcam1989
@Richardcam1989 5 лет назад
You bet she looked Jeff up and saw herself on this video and realized the truth. I trust that she has found it too.
@robynryan7473
@robynryan7473 Год назад
I am a Christian however I came across this video and others like it because I want to understand what my family (a cousin is an active Mormon and my uncle was a bishop) believe and believed. I am learning a lot about what current Mormons and Ex-Mos feel and believe. This has been the most truest and real message I have ever seen preached to a person who was LDS. I haven't looked away. I love how this confirms my beliefs as a follower of Jesus but this is really opening my eyes to see what Mormons believe. I won't chastise either I won't judge my family I just need to understand. Grateful to have come across a video like this.
@JesusWordApologetics
@JesusWordApologetics 8 лет назад
Pastor Jeff, this was such a great apologetic presentation on Mormonism. Wow. Went from Islam to Mormonism. Thank you. Also, send her a link to David Woods site Acts17Apologetics to refute her misunderstanding of Islam as well.
@ShardTown
@ShardTown 8 лет назад
Am I the only one who gets frustrated at these videos sometimes ._. I just wish people would have actual reasons for disagreeing instead of "that's just your interpretation" and such. Why can't we learn from each other and say "I don't know, I have to go home and look it up" instead of just spitballing responses from the top of our head? God bless you Pastor Jeff, you're a wise and patient man.
@mlwilson2956
@mlwilson2956 8 лет назад
+Ricky909 Because, it's very rare to find someone who actually wants to learn and is open to correction. Most people make up their minds and then come up with justifications for what they believe later.
@jasonchristensen2462
@jasonchristensen2462 8 лет назад
Jeff has sown a seed and Jesus will make it grow
@MarkNParker
@MarkNParker 8 лет назад
+Mike Tyson SamOwenl ,This whole discussion forgets something: 'Judgment'. Alma 9:2828 Therefore, prepare ye the way of the Lord, for the time is at hand that all men shall reap a reward of their works, according to that which they have been-if they have been righteous they shall reap the salvation of their souls, according to the power and deliverance of Jesus Christ; and if they have been evil they shall reap the damnation of their souls, according to the power and captivation of the devil. That's from the Book of Mormon, it's pretty clear isn't it? God is just. Revelation 20:1313 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.Revelation 20:1212 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
@royboy3129
@royboy3129 8 лет назад
I don't beleive in Mormonism, but he shouldn't call her sweetie. That is very disrespectful and condescending.
@shaunbuckley304
@shaunbuckley304 Год назад
If your Feelings dont match Fact...then your feelings are wrong!. She's sooo close. I have faith that she will find the one true God.
@mr.g4272
@mr.g4272 8 лет назад
It is very funny how For years I was stuck in the traditional Catholic view of Christianity. Which is false. Mormonsim is no different. Nice video.
@KEP1983
@KEP1983 8 лет назад
+Gus Ramirez "traditional catholic view of Christianity" What is that supposed to mean? If you're going to make references to what you *think* Catholicism teaches, then please provide Catechism or Council references to prove the Church teaches what you *think* it teaches. Thanks
@KEP1983
@KEP1983 7 лет назад
His assertion was very vague, so it's hard to tell. I asked for a reference to what he was accusing the Church of teaching wrongly and he never answered. Usually they'll claim that we believe in "works righteousness," meaning that they think that we believe we have to earn our way to Heaven by impressing God with all of our good works. But that's false. You can read what the Church teaches about this dogmatically. Just google "Council of Trent, session 6." Scroll down to the canons, particularly the first 3 canons. Just google it, it'll only take about 3 or 4 minutes. Another common accusation s that we worship Mary or the Saints. That's also not true. We simply believe that Saints in Heaven are still conscious and therefore we can ask them to pray for us. They're not divine, not gods, etc. There's plenty of other accusations, but those are 2 of the most common ones.
@guylainecoulombe125
@guylainecoulombe125 5 лет назад
The minute you started calling her sweetheart you lost her. I know it wasn't meant to be condescending but it totally was taken that way the moment you used that term.
@Visonista
@Visonista 5 лет назад
Well said, he should not use the term 'sweetheart' or 'sweetie', its just wrong.
@exxology1
@exxology1 5 лет назад
Agreed, how condescending..
@evangelistmatthew783
@evangelistmatthew783 4 года назад
@@Visonista calm down sweetie
@evangelistmatthew783
@evangelistmatthew783 4 года назад
@@exxology1 relax...gimme a smile sweetheart
@KColes63
@KColes63 5 лет назад
She is so fearful that she is wrong and refuses to open her eyes and heart to hear anything except what she wants to believe. She believes she is smarter than what she actually is.
@henkaistudio
@henkaistudio Год назад
This woman doesn’t realise that Islam and Mormonism are very similar to each other especially their prophets too.
@anonymousdude5550
@anonymousdude5550 Год назад
No its not, Islam is the Absolute truth, We believe in the One God of the heaven and the earth, not many gods like mormons
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