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Back in 2007, when we released our first video "Fechten mit dem langen Schwert", videos on youtube had a really low resolution and 4:3 format.
So if you liked this video, you can watch it again now. In the best quality we were able to pull from the old material :)

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@thiagodunadan
@thiagodunadan 8 лет назад
If I saw a Hollywood movie with those proper techniques and those proper clothes, I would be so happy.
@oolooo
@oolooo 8 лет назад
Me too .Sadly , they think the rules from lightsaber combat apply here .
@haijyvelho
@haijyvelho 8 лет назад
+Unusual Stranger . Well it's probably also that they can't just teach the actors proper longsword techniques. It's easier to just make big over-swings and "cool" spinning movements and whatnot, they don't want to hire an actual historical martial arts teacher to teach the actors to use a sword. I guess Hollywood combat sells better anyway, if they found out that realistic historical combat gets them a lot more money, they'd probably do that instead.
@thiagodunadan
@thiagodunadan 8 лет назад
***** That's the thing: we don't actually know if realistic combat would sell, because Hollywood never tries it.
@haijyvelho
@haijyvelho 8 лет назад
Thiago Monteiro Yeah well, "if it works, don't fix it", the normal Hollywood fighting style works for them and gets them money so why try anything new... They really don't care about historical accuracy or realism either.
@TheNathanX100
@TheNathanX100 8 лет назад
The thing is martial arts teachers teach people to hit their opponent whilst in film they still have to actually entertain and in doing so they forget about the whole realism thing. It would be good if they choreographed a fight and then asked a real swordsman what they thought of it and improved from there.
@dexter432432
@dexter432432 11 лет назад
I hate it when movies show longswords as slow brutes with no skill just strength
@adrianvasian
@adrianvasian 10 лет назад
***** not really...
@ibramovi8844
@ibramovi8844 7 лет назад
dexter432432
@ZegohsOfZegCrew
@ZegohsOfZegCrew 7 лет назад
+matt mc Hopefully through practice practitioners realize the manuals are just rough guidelines.
@Ghastly_Grinner
@Ghastly_Grinner 5 лет назад
Well im most people's mind there is no room for europeans long swords as the Asian martial arts cult is so strong
@inigo5460
@inigo5460 5 лет назад
@@Ghastly_Grinner yeah, these weebs think katana can penetrate ANYTHING lol
@JeetKuneDoBelgrade
@JeetKuneDoBelgrade 9 лет назад
Pro's. Nice demonstration. Serves to show Western Fencing as IT IS - a martial art. Not hacking and slashing with armour on, without skill whatsoever. You can see proper footwork here, attack by drawing, very often deflecting rather then simply blocking with sheer force. This is real martial art, not a child's game.
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 3 года назад
@Stefano Dawg in these days it is hard to say what filtered in which direction as modern day HEMA practitioners often start with kali/escrima before they grab steel. The basic training drills upper and lower gates from escrima are very valuable for HEMA practitioners too. --- Also, as i understood the spanish have not taught the philipinas to fight - they rather have forbidden them to practise martial arts as they were subduing the natives - like good spaniards did evrywhere. There was no point in teaching them how to mount a resistance. Makes sense? So it is unlikely they go that art from the spanish. The story goes that because swordplay was forbidden, the philipinos swapped the machete type swords and knifes for sticks and continued training swordplay that way. And that is why we use sticks in kali-escrima training today. But the techniques are just camourflaged blade techniques.
@jordanwilson5964
@jordanwilson5964 3 года назад
Even when they did fight with armor on they still used proper technique, unlike m1 global.
@beerrunner8153
@beerrunner8153 9 лет назад
The lost art of sword fighting is not lost at all. Thank for the good fight. And teaching.
@REDWOLF5652
@REDWOLF5652 10 лет назад
God, I love seeing more historical longsword battles! I started German longsword back in 2006, and it felt like there were only a handful of us--but now it seems Western martial arts are finally starting to get more notice, and it's amazing!
@traikentercept7074
@traikentercept7074 9 лет назад
The music is amazing.
@BattleAxeOfGod
@BattleAxeOfGod 2 месяца назад
I come back and watch this like 3 times a month. That last technique is so smooth
@dukenukemthreed
@dukenukemthreed 9 лет назад
Germanic swordsmanship is beautiful simplicity, inspired by war, refined by Hans Talhoffer.
@dukenukemthreed
@dukenukemthreed 9 лет назад
Needless to say I hit "subscribe", great video.
@RenMagnum4057
@RenMagnum4057 5 лет назад
Its germanic? I thought it was English.
@TheCrimsonIdol987
@TheCrimsonIdol987 5 лет назад
@@RenMagnum4057 With longsword, there's usually two main traditions taught: 1. The German Liechtenauer tradition, which is a tradition started by Johannes Liechtenauer in the late 14th century. 2. The Italian Fiore tradition, which is a tradition started by Fiore dei Liberi in the early 15th century. The reason is that they are the most complete systems of longsword. Of course both Liechtenauer and Fiore covered other weapons, and the two schools of thought are very similar, so much so that you can just call it different interpretations on how to use the longsword. The main difference between the two is the mindset: 1. In the Fiore tradition, you first stop the opponent's attack, then kill him. 2. In the Liechtenauer tradition, you stop the opponent's attack by killing him.
@RenMagnum4057
@RenMagnum4057 5 лет назад
@@TheCrimsonIdol987 Cool. Thanks for the info
@TheCrimsonIdol987
@TheCrimsonIdol987 5 лет назад
@@RenMagnum4057 No problem mate! Cheers!
@winterprison833
@winterprison833 5 лет назад
Just imagine, you're out for a walk in the fog, then you hear metal off in the distance, you follow it and see these guys doing some medieval scrapping
@BoydWillemsen
@BoydWillemsen 9 лет назад
Next time someone makes a movie in the medieval times, they should consider calling up some experts to make the fights seem somewhat realistic instead of these RPG-fights in which the one who hacks and slashes the most wins. Or of course, the one who makes the most dramatic turns and hops.
@KandiKlover
@KandiKlover 9 лет назад
Watch lindybeige, he does a good job making fun of movies that do that shit lol
@fred4800
@fred4800 9 лет назад
I completely agree with this post but I have to say that there are several films with realistic historical fencing techniques. A prime example would be the last samurai.
@parkourunity2339
@parkourunity2339 9 лет назад
boyd willemsen see some polish medieval movies for example kszyzatsie ( I dont know how to spell it)
@Shoegazebasedgenre0.
@Shoegazebasedgenre0. 9 лет назад
boyd willemsen it would be risky if hollywood tries to make a realistic european battles because the techniques is just dangerous to looks so realistic.even with a prop armor..knights could be hurt because in reality,they would ratter use a blunt force against armoured opponents or knights and there's a high chance that they would dizzy,unconscious,or even vomit.perhaps there would be another way to film a realistic medieval combat on screen..but it wont be so real or fast as we expected and i agree with dramatizing bullshit.they can put the "drama" in other way like before the battle,or after the battle
@gsimon123
@gsimon123 8 лет назад
+TerrionGaming I'm in total agreement. As a filmmaker myself I'm very interested in trying to implement realistic sword fighting into a movie one day. It is just so fluid and different than mainstream hack and slash. This looks so much more efficient and dangerous.
@pixiekawai
@pixiekawai 10 лет назад
where were these heroes when they were fucking up the swordfighting in Game of Thrones... This would have been great!
@MNGN101
@MNGN101 7 лет назад
+Even Mehl Amundsen Yes, I would have loved to have the duel with Arthur Dayne end in 6 seconds.
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat 5 лет назад
@@MNGN101 Sword fights BASED on historical techniques can still be dramatised and drawn out. They don't need to end brutally quickly unless this serves the story. The difference is that genuine skill is involved and audiences are treated to a bit of history.
@MNGN101
@MNGN101 5 лет назад
@@GonzoTehGreat Except these techniques completely contradict the idea of a "drawn out" duel. I'm glad the show-runners aren't wasting their time trying to find ways to apply techniques that were meant for fast, 1 on 1 duels to drawn out fights scenes with multiple people, all the while trying to convey emotion and tell a story.
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat 5 лет назад
@@MNGN101 These techniques are being demonstrated. That's why they typically demonstrate only a single cut, followed by a parry and a counter. An actual duel wouldn't necessarily be that short, especially if the combatants were of similar skill. You might be happy to accept poor, fantastical, Hollywood style, fight choreography but some of us would prefer them to try and bit harder and aim a little higher.
@Judicial78
@Judicial78 8 лет назад
Video needs to be on a 10 hour loop.
@KnightedDawn
@KnightedDawn 10 лет назад
In case anyone was curious, here is my best effort at figuring out the techniques they're demonstrating: In order (often multiple exchanges are the same thing, so this is not "per exchange"): Variation on Schnappen? (this is explicitly mentioned in Fiore, too) Zwerchau (which appear to be interspersed with some more deflection & cuts) Absetzen More Schnappen; these are somewhat similar to Fiore's colpo di villano More Absetzen Nachraißen Various Half-swording techniques Presumably Durchwechseln, followed by some Schnappen-like counter Mutieren (upside down, as it were) Duplieren (in theory. I think) These are kind of like Absetzen, but I'm not sure what they are Krumphau Blade grab (found in Fiore) Sword wrap (found in Fiore) More Schnappen-like exchanges Pommel strike (from Fiore) This looks like something out of Meyer, but I'm not familiar with it. Might be one interpretation of fencing from Fiore's posta di donna More Nachraißen Disarms involving the half-sword (some of which could result in throws) Abschneiden Note that these are all best guesses based on approximation, and they probably don't even use many of these interpretations any more. Please let me know if you feel I've missed anything or made any mistakes!
@fred4800
@fred4800 9 лет назад
You again
@KnightedDawn
@KnightedDawn 9 лет назад
Again?
@fred4800
@fred4800 9 лет назад
***** We have talked before.
@saadfromnemesis2533
@saadfromnemesis2533 7 лет назад
You are awesome, friend.
@TesticularDancer
@TesticularDancer 8 лет назад
My favorite video on RU-vid. Really an immaculate display of swordplay here.
@physical_insanity
@physical_insanity 6 лет назад
Kristopher M If you like this, then you'll love Longsword by Adorea Olomouc. It's the best damn swordfighting video I've ever seen.
@adamschaeffer4057
@adamschaeffer4057 4 года назад
I must have watched this a hundred times, no doubt. These guys are so badass they don't even bother with the masks and gloves, but very clearly they are coming within inches of putting each other's eyes out.
@silafuyang8675
@silafuyang8675 4 года назад
Agreed. This video is a treasure, real inspiration.
@knightshousegames
@knightshousegames 6 месяцев назад
The real OGs remember the 4:3 aspect ratio version This video was probably the video that made me aware that HEMA existed. When I first saw the video I thought the costumes were kinda weird, now I understand why the costumes look the way they do. When I first saw this video, my swords were mostly wooden. Now I own steel swords, and a little bit of armor. I was interested in swords and stuff, but mostly because of Zelda, LotR, and Final Fantasy. Now I am writing my own fantasy RPG that is more low fantasy informed by this sort of style. I am grateful that this video exists still, I still come back to it from time to time. Thank you.
@czblax888
@czblax888 Месяц назад
Could u tell more about the clothing they are wearing it looks interesting
@knightshousegames
@knightshousegames Месяц назад
@@czblax888 Well I hate to say it, but they are wearing a style I don't know very well. I know it's German, probably 1400s, just not sure where in germany, or anything more specific than that But that exact curiosity is what got me started, do research on the sources they study, look into the sources from the time period, and see what you can find. There are definitely fashion historians, and they will have the information about what was in style where and when, it's actually pretty fascinating.
@czblax888
@czblax888 Месяц назад
@@knightshousegames thanks a lot anyways, I’ll definitely do some research
@EmanuelNadera
@EmanuelNadera 8 лет назад
I love seeing half swording techniques truly beautiful!
@lindgrenland
@lindgrenland 7 лет назад
HIYAH! HIYAH! I love this. Why can't movie duels portray this at least somewhat? God I love the longsword grappling moves. That could be made to look really cool in movie fights, while also being somewhat realistic
@windosa2006
@windosa2006 8 лет назад
Seriously some of that shit looks hollywood worthy af. Why aren't they doing it like this in GoT or other shows/movies?
@PandemicalShade
@PandemicalShade 8 лет назад
The actors are all amateurs and would never be able to imitate this high-end swordplay without injuring themselves :-( There's only one possible solution to this: Only cast actors in fighting roles who are PROFICIENT at sword fighting!!!
@windosa2006
@windosa2006 8 лет назад
Hexates It's 2016 mate. Totally possible to have people like the ones in the video be the doubles and then later on CGI the actors head on the body. Also, don't underestimate actors. You should watch some "Making of" Videos on good movies. Some actors train really really hard with real skilled martial artists to make things look real.
@PandemicalShade
@PandemicalShade 8 лет назад
Maverick CGI is a really good point. I would love to see this happening via CGI.
@SedgeSedgicus
@SedgeSedgicus 8 лет назад
calm down, Ian.
@b19931228
@b19931228 7 лет назад
Complete newb to swords play and martial art can reproduce these moves with proper coach and instructions in a few days or so. Not that they can actually fight with a sword efficiently in the real world or tournament after only few days. But a planned fight scene should be alright. That's why some film or TV series are starting to hire HEMA instructors. They're not hiring those people to train actors into actual swordsman or something in the like.. they're there to train actors into doing some legit-looking moves in a controlled fashion.
@dylanfontaine591
@dylanfontaine591 8 лет назад
idk why this gets me so excited.. it's like i just wanna jump up, grab my waster, and spar with my mate! maybe it's due to me loving the fluidity of their exchanges, even though this is a step demonstration, i know these are pros of the art
@funnysecksnumber6998
@funnysecksnumber6998 4 года назад
Hammaborg's videos does the same for me mate
@4hedgesfamily
@4hedgesfamily 5 лет назад
I honestly don't know if I can move my longsword that fast. Watching this, I see so much I need to learn! Thank you for demonstrating the techniques so clearly, and showing how they can be built on. If you can, please produce more videos.
@zoopyjoobles
@zoopyjoobles 10 лет назад
This video makes me so happy.
@Valor06
@Valor06 2 года назад
I practically watch this video at least once a friggin' week, it's just so damn good.
@swlucas
@swlucas 6 лет назад
I'm going to join the chorus here... this is a beautiful display of swordsmanship. As someone with no European fencing experience, I found the way the entire sword was used, along with grappling and entrapment techniques eyeopening and heart-racing. Really great stuff!
@Crusader-Ramos45
@Crusader-Ramos45 9 лет назад
We need more action-packed movies that take place in Medieval Europe, featuring people fighting with long swords like they're master swordsmen.
@fafasminguela4333
@fafasminguela4333 5 лет назад
Fencing,in its purest state. Una...maravilla
@logi4840
@logi4840 4 года назад
Imagine Game of Thrones had this accurate sword fight
@PetrKulda
@PetrKulda 11 лет назад
This video is perfect, got me hooked back in 2008, hwen i found it. Keep good work guys.
@WarriorOfHonor16
@WarriorOfHonor16 10 лет назад
Gosh those ducking parrys at 1:40 are just so cool. Stuff like that - it just blows your mind. So practical - but I'd never think of it! I've started fencing but this stuff really is what intrigues me.
@MikoArcher
@MikoArcher 10 лет назад
Best! Лучшие, просто лучие. Wow. Thanks! Many many thanks for this!
@Atristiel
@Atristiel 10 лет назад
Wow, 1v1 duels must have been really quickly over and done with.
@MajorCoolD
@MajorCoolD 10 лет назад
It all comes down to the fighters... dont forget that what you see there is choreographed and 'slowed down' for the viewers. It all depends on how agressive each of the combatants are. Naturally people will usually fight more agressive in training fights with blunt swords than they would do in a real fight with sharp swords, at least you'd think so. Of course it all depends on the situation. You can have fights were a skilled and determined, agressive swordsman can take down an enemy in a blink of an eye (though unlikely because while leathal most swordstrokes are not immediatly fatal), while some could go on for minutes with the opponents circling around each other, looking for a gap in the enemies defence or thinking how to approach him, all while constantly changing guards and trying to intimidate the enemy or to encourage him to attack you when you think you have a chance of countering his blow. That's at least the theory, in truth you hardly have time to actively think about it. So yeah so some fights could be over really fast, while others can last very long... all comes down to how eager the fighters are to gamble with their lives.
@joshridinger3407
@joshridinger3407 10 лет назад
MajorCoolD Sounds about right. What you wouldn't ever really see is a Hollywood/stage fight bashfest. But a circling standoff with occasional pokes? Probably quite common.
@Atristiel
@Atristiel 10 лет назад
***** Forgive me grand master but my entire life I have assumed that being intimidated and being rational are two different things.
@Atristiel
@Atristiel 10 лет назад
Natasel But your muscles lose their power, you struggle to think straight and you start to suffocate, easy kill with every minute/second depending on the loss rate.
@Cosmoline
@Cosmoline 10 лет назад
***** Not many of us have been in sword fights against a man who has human blood on his blade and every intention of adding ours to the mix. I think many would turn into frightened women!
@natesturm448
@natesturm448 6 лет назад
Just closing my eyes and listening to that ring is so satisfying by itself. Then open them and see fluid but easy to follow attacks and it's like icing on a cake.
@PanosGkece
@PanosGkece 9 лет назад
All I could think of as a gamer and hobbyist game designer was how it would be possible to implement these moves in a video game.
@sootheater
@sootheater 9 лет назад
Panos Gk the real question is why hasn't this happened yet! xD
@PanosGkece
@PanosGkece 9 лет назад
sootheater Well Kingdom Come: Deliverance is trying to do it but they still need to come a long way.
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 9 лет назад
sootheater Because Hollywood. /s
@17MrLeon
@17MrLeon 9 лет назад
Panos Gk Long way you say? They are already as far as any game has ever been and their combat I think is already complete.
@PanosGkece
@PanosGkece 9 лет назад
Jirka Dusek You can win by mashing the attack button untill you run out of stamina and then retreating to replenish it. It still needs tweaking...
@KingTairun
@KingTairun 10 лет назад
..and that why we love the long sword
@grndragon7777777
@grndragon7777777 6 месяцев назад
Omg 4 years. Thank you 🙏 beautiful
@JimBCameron
@JimBCameron 12 лет назад
This really brings to life many of the old renaissance manuscripts & shows many comparative techniques from many of the south east Asian systems. Thanks for uploading. :)
@ohshipman
@ohshipman 8 лет назад
"class" is the only word i can conceive to describe the maestry of this technique. amazing.
@Zerpentile93
@Zerpentile93 9 лет назад
Looks awesome and it's interesting to see how they fought back then.
@Sylentmana
@Sylentmana 8 лет назад
I can't stop watching this video. Real European sword fighting is way more exciting than anything Hollywood can cook up.
@XH3llBoundX
@XH3llBoundX 12 лет назад
Immer wieder schön, und immer wieder ein Quell der Inspiration und des Ansporns mit dem Training weiter zu machen.
@DD-ye9bb
@DD-ye9bb 6 лет назад
Anyone else love the sound those sword make when coming into contact with eachother
@demomanchaos
@demomanchaos 10 лет назад
I would love to see some more stuff from you guys.
@zenku41
@zenku41 8 лет назад
Wow, this was amazing, I also love how well the sword fighting is matched with the music, great video
@AlexanderWernerJr
@AlexanderWernerJr 6 лет назад
Oy! I'm the composer of the music, thanks for your positive comment. If you go to my RU-vid channel there is new music I've just published, please feel free to browse my videos and my new homepage.
@justsomeguy3931
@justsomeguy3931 5 лет назад
This is awesome, I wish the people who made melee fight scenes on TV would consult you.
@ulyssesdacruss5555
@ulyssesdacruss5555 4 года назад
This was one of the first HEMA videos I found on the internet. :)
@locolopelocolope
@locolopelocolope 7 лет назад
OMG that steel sound .... Great vid !
@Vedzmin
@Vedzmin 8 лет назад
One of my favorite fencing videos!
@romanstaniszewski1030
@romanstaniszewski1030 3 года назад
BEAUTIFUL ! PLEASE MAKE MORE !!!
@hdckdsadd
@hdckdsadd 3 года назад
I keep coming back to see this video :)
@interfector036
@interfector036 9 лет назад
Pay attention, D&D. THIS is how you use a two-hander.
@letummors922
@letummors922 9 лет назад
***** No two hander in this video..
@17MrLeon
@17MrLeon 9 лет назад
***** one and a half-hander
@qwormuli77
@qwormuli77 7 лет назад
How come, that in these responses the only one with actual information is the one calling himself "World's Biggest Booty Hoes"?
@jollyleprechaun5436
@jollyleprechaun5436 6 лет назад
I'd say a longsword is a two hander. It's used in two hands most of the time anyway. I'm also assuming your not referring to a montonte/zweihander, which are of course two handed, but a bit bigger in size. Longsword is used two handed is what I'm getting at.
@physical_insanity
@physical_insanity 6 лет назад
Longswords would typically have a space in between both hands on the handle to allow for greater rotation. If both hands are together on the handle, then your wrists meet a lot sooner when you spin the weapon.
@ESherwood22
@ESherwood22 10 лет назад
Wish these guys would do more videos.
@catboyzee
@catboyzee 11 лет назад
Damn, that's crazy. Amazing skill swordmen had to possess...
@simonlimon7052
@simonlimon7052 10 лет назад
Beautiful sword play!!!
@xsublimex1111
@xsublimex1111 11 лет назад
It's crazy how a few successful parries completely exposes your opponent. A few swings and you could be dead. I especially like the move the guy in black does to the jester guy near the end where he in pales him with his own sword. It happens in a split second. Blink and you'll miss it 👍
@lkvideos7181
@lkvideos7181 10 лет назад
only that the opponent won't simply stop when struck down once ( depending on impact zone of course ) but may still be able to deliver a fatal blow before he dies that's why when striking him/her down you should retreat quickly or try to block his sword as well. Allways be catious.
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 9 лет назад
LKVideos that's exactly how HEMA works, after the kill blow, you must counter the opponent's next blow for your point to be valid.
@HipposHateWater
@HipposHateWater 12 лет назад
In the meantime, there's more than 5 HEMA clubs in Seattle alone :)
@MrAlexH1991
@MrAlexH1991 6 лет назад
Those duck-under parries, though... I had no idea there were techniques like that in HEMA. They’re straight 🔥
@danieleb588
@danieleb588 2 года назад
love the music!!
@manueltoloza6007
@manueltoloza6007 4 года назад
Gotta love that 'ting' sound
@longbowandwarbowcraftingbo2859
@longbowandwarbowcraftingbo2859 3 года назад
this is absolutely fucking amazing
@EternalShadow1667
@EternalShadow1667 2 года назад
Epic. Brings back some nostalgia.
@fred4800
@fred4800 9 лет назад
I see a lot of people complaining about people not using these techniques, and I have to say that in the Lord of the rings all people fighting with historical weapons should have used historical fencing techniques with example on this video. Except me because we can all I see how well I fucked people up with that mace.
@BangTheRocksTogether
@BangTheRocksTogether 11 лет назад
Rusty, You don't have to move to Germany, you can just go to Eugene or Vancouver B.C. for the weekend. Sean Hayes operates Northwest Fencing Academy in Eugene. He is as good as any HEMA instructor in the world. Armizare is a complete martial art and is as fun as it looks. In Vancouver is Academie Duello. It is a world class HEMA school. I train there, and I have never had so much fun in my life.
@boutet01
@boutet01 12 лет назад
Magnifique. Je vais venir vous voir à votre école. Merci
@im50yearsold
@im50yearsold 7 лет назад
Those overhooks at 1:25 are awesome.
@McShieldBash
@McShieldBash 5 лет назад
2:05 that face is saying "i guess i'm gonna die"
@Justthisguyyouknow
@Justthisguyyouknow 11 лет назад
It's been a long time since I checked, and I don't have my library anymore, but I'm pretty sure the German fechtbooks that survive show a lot of this "rough and tumble" style of fighting... punching, kicking, pommel strikes, etc. It's not just Fiore! :)
@atvanael
@atvanael 10 лет назад
Sure, there are disarms and the like in Japanese sword fighting. I've seen plenty of grappling things that start by trying to prevent the drawing of the sword, and I've seen illustrations of hilt strikes and half-swording (I hear the Katori Shinto-Ryu particularly likes them). Of course, the katana hasn't got so much of a cross guard to work with, and the Japanese swords are shorter, so it provides less of a tactical advantage to suddenly shorten up on it than it does when you have a longer blade. You're already close. I think, in the Japanese schools particularly, this also means that those close-in grapples probably survive primarily in the older styles developed around battlefield fighting in armour.
@mengarooo3149
@mengarooo3149 10 лет назад
You can see that in Kendo practiced by the Japanese Police or Self Defense Forces. When the shinai/sword gets knocked out of your hand or dropped, normal civilians try and close the gap to their opponent to avoid the split second your opponent gets to score a full point hit(instead of the half point he gets for you dropping your sword). The Police and Military close the gap and immediately try and grapple you to the ground and forcefully rip your men(the helmet) off your head(always amusing to watch).
@mizucallow1662
@mizucallow1662 8 лет назад
Awesome techniques and videos.
@gryff42
@gryff42 6 лет назад
This looks so much spectecular than what we see in movies.
@rmartine01
@rmartine01 11 лет назад
Excelente maestros
@grailknight6794
@grailknight6794 8 лет назад
old but gold!
@hunterfindon1018
@hunterfindon1018 7 лет назад
I don't know why... But the man wearing the red white and blue looks so comfortable in those. Maybe it's because it reminds me of pajamas.
@adrianvasian
@adrianvasian 3 года назад
2021 and still amazingly awesome :D
@lucentcloud6388
@lucentcloud6388 7 лет назад
one of the best HF video ive seen in my life
@taylorahern2714
@taylorahern2714 9 лет назад
Astounding!! Very, very impressive, and thrilling to watch. So basically any swordsman thoroughly trained and skilled in that particular, very German flavored and intricate style of sword play would be able to expertly parry and kill this savage, blood-crazed, powerful, fearsome, hard charging, claymore slashing, chain mail clad Scottish Highlander or Irish Gallowglass?? For I would give my left nut to witness and enjoy such a spectacle, that of two Renaissance Era warriors going at it, one Celtic and the other German, while armed with their respective, customary weapons and each engaging the other in their own fighting style. Ferocious!!
@ConnorJaneu
@ConnorJaneu 9 лет назад
Taylor Ahern Well, the highlanders were actually very skilled fighters, as were the Irish. The whole blood-crazed savage thing was a psyhcological sort of thing, and if it didn't scare you away, they would engage you logically in combat.
@taylorahern2714
@taylorahern2714 9 лет назад
Fascinating. Yes, the Irish and Scots were as skilled as they were fearsome, maybe the best fighters in Western Europe for centuries.
@ConnorJaneu
@ConnorJaneu 9 лет назад
Could be, or it might be me being too proud of my Irish heritage. But since when can you be too proud of being Irish right?
@taylorahern2714
@taylorahern2714 9 лет назад
Exactly!! And living here in the Boston area has this way of inflating it that much more. The biggest Irish population in the country (percentage wise!).
@ConnorJaneu
@ConnorJaneu 8 лет назад
***** There's a difference between the Scottish noblemen, who were often aligned with England, and the Highlander clans who lived in the country side. The nobles were up to date on arms and armor, whereas the clans were often too poor to afford better equipment. Why do you think that most of their income came from banditry?
@MrPotatoesLatkie
@MrPotatoesLatkie 11 лет назад
This is an historical reanactment, or as close as they can get. They also aren't fighting, but demonstrating techniques from the 15th century with a 15th century weapon.
@gabrielrodriguez2153
@gabrielrodriguez2153 4 года назад
I would love a game or movie with moves like that
@LeonM4c
@LeonM4c 4 года назад
Love this video and also this is the most gangster piano track I've ever heard
@markthomas741
@markthomas741 11 месяцев назад
Mesmerising!
@mcvit
@mcvit 12 лет назад
Dieses Jahr legt ihr ja richtig los ;-) Schon zwei Videos. Weiter so!
@talleman1
@talleman1 10 месяцев назад
Still the best.
@gr8sword
@gr8sword 11 лет назад
Still an awesome video!
@Ghastly_Grinner
@Ghastly_Grinner 5 лет назад
Its funny that Katanas have this mystical miasma around them but this looks 1000X cooler than any asian swordplay I have ever seen
@officialluckyturn
@officialluckyturn 7 лет назад
this video shows: a sword isnt just a blade, you dont allways need to block the attack you can doge the strike and strike back and the most important: longswords can be used precise and quick
@MrDanielc7777
@MrDanielc7777 9 лет назад
I wonder if sir belamy from game of thrones fights like this since in the book it always mentions that he beats his opponents in one parry-while striking at the same time
@hectornonayurbusiness2631
@hectornonayurbusiness2631 6 лет назад
Still watching this in 2018
@adrianvasian
@adrianvasian 10 лет назад
this is just fucking awesome. it's exactly how I pictured fights would naturally be - a really quick exchange that would most of the time see someone wounded and out of the fight in a matter of seconds. :D
@VelmiVelkiZrut
@VelmiVelkiZrut 11 лет назад
Exactly. That assumes that the fencers were about equal in skill, though. If one is obviously out of his depth, his opponent will generally try something more risky such as halfswording and using that extra muscle to drive the blade through the neck. Interestingly enough, I have seen references stating that duels of heavily armored opponents often ended with something akin to wrestling. While armor protected against slashes, the joints were articulated enough to allow breaking bones or twists.
@harevalley4591
@harevalley4591 10 лет назад
I can think of one example of an armor influencing fashion. Henry VIII was to have a tournament duel with the king of France. They weren't able to get his armor done in time so they made a kind of steel skirt that could be used on horse of foot. Later there were examples of men's clothing that replicated the steel skirt in cloth. I saw a man at a society for creative anachronism wearing the civilian version.
@daMorg07
@daMorg07 11 лет назад
Poetry in motion.
@sunshineman143
@sunshineman143 11 лет назад
There is a different set of moves for dealing with armor, since a long sword can't pierce plate you either knock the guy down and slip between the joints, grab the blade use your hilt as a warhammer. Hold the sword by the lower half of the blade and use it as a piercing weapon etc...
@maddog1738
@maddog1738 9 лет назад
I was a heavy armor fighter in the Society for Creative Anachronism for 12 years and had mentioned this in an earlier comment on this list. One of the other commenters seemed to feel that SCA was not very proficient in the study and practice of medieval combat and so I suggested that a test of skills take place between a SCA heavy and a real gladiator. I'm afraid the gentleman was displeased by my comment but none the less I would like to propose the idea. The SCA does have a presence in Germany so it should be no great difficulty in arranging said test.
@DeusEx1977
@DeusEx1977 9 лет назад
This is a different context, most of the Kunst Des Fechtens techniques demonstrated here were developed in the context of a judicial duel. It's not meant to simulate armored combat, there are entirely different techniques used for fighting in armor. I have no doubt that the average SCA heavy is great at fighting in an SCA context, better than most KdF practitioners, but I have a feeling if you were to doff your armor and pick up a steel blunt and go one on one you might see that the average KdF guy will be better in that arena.
@maddog1738
@maddog1738 9 лет назад
DeusEx1977 I think you might be right about trying to enter a new discipline. In SCA heavy armor fighting you win when your opponent acknowledges your blow, but in order for him to feel it you have to hit with full force. We can do that because we are using rattan for weapons and have rigid protection: full steel helmets, and hard protection to all joints and soft points on the body. I did one time try to do these forms that are being displayed in the video and I broke my partners expensive eye glasses, lucky I didn't break his head! Are there any schools or clubs that teach Des Fechtens in the USA?
@crazyscotsman9327
@crazyscotsman9327 9 лет назад
Mad Dog Well there are SCA groups who are now using live steel and in lighter gear much like these guys are. I am an SCA fighter in Antir and I am currently into Cut and Thrust. Which is essentially heavier swords (Longsword, non rapier single handers) fight in a one on one system for now. (Hoping for melee's to start soon.) And like in heavy you still have to call the blows you get hit with, it really is right inbetween the HEMA stuff and Heavy combat if you ask me.
@maddog1738
@maddog1738 9 лет назад
How hard is the blow? I did some SCA fencing and acknowledge meant is much lighter in fencing than in heavy combat.
@Cosmoline
@Cosmoline 9 лет назад
SCA heavy fighting operates under its own set of rules and customs. As I understand it these include no steel simulators, no shield strikes, blade grabs, pommel strikes, ringen or any hit outside a restricted set of target areas. The weapon simulators are used more like clubs. HEMA tournaments have their own various rules such as edge alignment, permissive hand attacks, penalties for after blows, allowance for thrusting attacks and a *preference* for head attacks. Trying to combine these two systems is impossible without rewriting one set of rules or the other. Their purposes are fundamentally different. In HEMA/WMA we're trying to get as close as we can to the old methods using the sources. In many cases we don't even do scoring or tournaments at all. SCA has a whole lifestyle associated with it and is a much larger organization with a formal hierarchy completely lacking in HEMA. That's not knocking SCA. HEMA really grew out of SCA folks back in the 80's who wanted to incorporate the surviving sources into the fighting recreations. And there's just a whole lot more to do in SCA. For us HEMA guys, we might get a pizza or something but that's about it. There's no role playing and no broader lifestyle.
@SicaPictures
@SicaPictures 12 лет назад
Ihr benutzt ja an manchen Stellen Fechtfedern... das ist mir vorher nie aufgefallen! :) ..einfach ein großartiges video!!
@ghostexorcist
@ghostexorcist 7 лет назад
This is poetry in motion!
@ArmorySmithWorkshop
@ArmorySmithWorkshop 9 лет назад
Красиво!
@SGVB22
@SGVB22 Год назад
i'd love to make videos like this with someone someday, this is so cool!!!!
@badlaamaurukehu
@badlaamaurukehu 6 лет назад
This is an excellent exposition.
@ElAdvenimiento
@ElAdvenimiento 12 лет назад
Please, upload more videos! Your technique is awesome!
@Native_love
@Native_love 6 лет назад
WOW! Absolutely beautiful! Thank you!
@lanetxgp1
@lanetxgp1 11 лет назад
It looks like a combination. The high guard and circular strike patterns are probably from a German school. The grappling and pommel striking look like Fiore. However, there are only so many ways you can sword fight so they could all come from the same source.
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