FF Plus wants ANC to recognise Orania 

They have planned this long time ago with Ramaphosa

They isolated themselves and made it clear that its possible to be state-proof .. what changed now...

if revote happens anc will never see lite

I remember Deklerk in 2017 if Ramaphosa wins it would be a victory for them 😂, zakhala now they are popping up one by one 😂.

They have started 😂😂 viva GNU 😂

Orania does not recognise itself on the basis of race? What is this grand child of Verwoerd been smoking?

Malema warned us and we did not listen

Some of these comments are utterly stupid. Verwoed's grand son said they bought this land in 1991, Ramaphosa was not even remotely close to parliament. The country was firmly in Apartheid's NP rule. Mandela was just released months earlier. It is just as ridiculous as this dude's assertions. So that yard is special because 400 people voted. What about Dainfern estate, or Blue Hills and over 3000 estates in SA. Should they also seek constitutional recognition cause they are important. Delusions of grandeur, in creating your own flag in a democratic country, and establishing a currency for an estate. Does he even know why other Afrikaaner brotherin of his aren't moving to his father yard in support, or are the claustrophobic of small spaces, or opt not to dig backwards like chicken. If his people are blocked from opportunities, it is not the government, but his cousins who still over 90% of our economy, and made sure that whoever govern will have no buying power. Take a hat off to this lady for asking the right questions, now its even clearer that orania sings the entire anthem, nx!

Leave Orania alone. Oranianians want peace, where kids are free, women can walk anytime of the night. Why do you want to interfere?

I am white there is somthing rong about oranja i wil rather live between black poeple

Karel, I respect your people and your idea. But comparing ghettos and orania is nonsense. Black people aren't allowed to live in Orania. There are a lot of white people who are embraced in black communities such as mine. I know 4 different white families who came here due to bad economic conditions. In Orania it is by choice and for the preservation or the Afrikaanner culture

I like the firmness of this news anchor.i like her personality,she just shows braveness

y dont you go back to europe and build your Orania there

He speaks a lot of rubish but the one that stands out is that he co-founded a piece of land in South Africa called Orania, Ramaphosa why do you allow land theft to happen again? Ramaphosa get your Act together......

Cannot make this up...Boere want their white only enclave...thanks Ramaphosa...

The South African Defense Department must establish in Orania a permanent military training base and barracks , provide residential facilities for South African Citizens that would be stationed there for military service slong with their family members The territory is well suited for that purpose just like any other part of South Africa .

Nazo GNU😂😂

This is going to be a major headache for S.A in future, from what this man is saying, one can deduce that their long term strategy is to eventually create an independent state within S.A. If politicians don't take drastic measures, and make the concept of Orania illegal, it will be an independent state in about 50 years.

Why is Orania anymore special than any other place - say Tshwane, Soweto, etc.? What does it even mean to say a place is "special"?

If orania needs to be recognised....no problem,let them change their flag n use South Africa flag🇿🇦then maybe their matter can be attended to...

Grandson of Hendrik Verwoerd😂😂😂. ANC is finished next local elections, and we'll be reading its obituary in 2029 national elections😂

Israel state started exactly like this

This must be abolished SAP. This is apartheid and it doesn't have a space in South Africa.

Every culture must get their own Orania then

The audacity 🚮🚮🚮

ANC voters look the damage you caused in SA with this GNU, ur to be blamed for this nonsense.

The whole of South Africa should be Ran and administered like Orania

Really, why dont all people just leave Orania and its people. It is just causing a stir. I sometimes wonder why God has so much patience with us. It is unreal the hate. Who in his real mind will stay and live in Karoo

This is the Reason why the Constitution needs to Change

Nazo😂😂😂😂😂 its gonna be a long day for sellouts

Orania is racist because the basis of entrance is race and not culture as it is falsely claimed here …the false assumption here is that culture amounts to race , I can be Xhosa but raised in the Zulu culture , same way a black person can be raised in the Afrikaner culture. So this “we are preserving our culture by not allowing blacks to live here “ is an obvious fallacy. Zulus don’t need to make it hard for Xhosas to live in KzN as a means of preserving the Zulu culture, that would be ridiculous. I can’t figure out if this is racism or just lack of imagination, but whatever it is , it’s stupid.

Should KZN make their own currency like ORANIA.

ANC fall on the wrong hands who don't know about the struggle

anc ere tlwayela masepa pila pila

Good thing. Orania has a good & successful story 2 tell. Everything seems 2 work there.

🤣🤣🤣 all the chest pain comments. They hate when people have things that work and aren't stolen or broken by parasites.

You see now??? it's only gonna get worse trust me

It's only 1700 people that live there. Very small group of people living in the past. Not important.

Federalism is perfectly OK in South Africa. People should be free to do what they want. I don't want to visit Oranja, so let them do what they like.

You are "excluded" in what way if i may ask?

😢😢EFF TOLD U SOO SA 😢AES =HOPE ❤

Orania in my grandfather land that was stolen

It must never be allowed.

No ways. They can stay there. Why now all of a sudden

Gnu fruits

Mark my words, we are heading back to the Homelands State. Reason's been the so called GNU will approve.

Nobody should be forced to sing any national athem it's a freedom of choice. My national athem is the OUR FATHER PRAYER. 😂

Legally recognize an entho enclave that has it's own currency and national anthem?

What the Hell ? They couldn't wait to show their True Colours, ANC must not agree to this Madness, Otherwise it will make Black People Uncomfortable. ANC can always leave this Coalition if it's want to Divide South Africa, This is Black People's land, Go to Dutch and Claim the land there.

Just like Isreal, i see Orania gaining 50 percent of south africa. When America and Uk back Orania , there will gain 73 percent of South africa

Here we go...😂

Nelson Mandela, ANC President gave permission for Orania.

Oh yes i start to understand Mr.Malima.

Wrong timing on these people mara, ababini sisalwa ne GNU ne vote riging?

Ftsk

He says my father founded Orania, what does that mean? Does it mean no one knew about that place before or no one was staying there before. what about the people who lived there who were forcefully removed to establish Orania.

This started with Mandela we will soon have a Palestine/ Israel conflict here. Conflict is unavoidable. A no go area for africans in africa its totally unbelievable this can only be in SA. This would never happen in China or Europe.

I support this. Orania is an excellent showcase of the prosperity a society can achieve if everyone rolls up their sleeves and work not only for the benefit of the individual but to advance their society as a whole.

Never not on our land of our forefathers Oranua crazy state in a state to hell NO

Wtf😂crooked proxy anc is turning this country into a joke😂

This lady Naledi under appreciated. She's simply good at her. Enjoy her questioning and coverage always❤

Wow Verwoed's grand baby still fighting his gran pa pa's fight

All civil servants should be paid on merit,basic plus merit,failed ministries penalised ,this lot drain our fiscus,very little value add,they are a liability.

'Come as you are we have space for you', what? No we have no space for racists and tribalists here. We have problems of our own right now, please keep your racists in Orania. I thought you wanted a volkstaat ( boerestaat), we gave it to you, why do you want to come back? We are still black and not Boere?

We cant allow this its either a part of South Africa or they going to have to have to go to Europe

News presenters of this channel are 'respectors of persons'... there's a lot of inconsistencies in how guests are treated.

A place like Orania does NOT belong in SA🇿🇦‼️👺😰🤬😡🤬😡

Never a Yes or a No !!!

Can this woman ask proper questions instead of being technical to accommodate this guy. I'm a black south african and I don't understand except that they are racist, come as racist as you are. In south africa with history of apartheid. Kanti why is anc government in cahoots with the racists verwoed government This is playing with thr plight of black people again.

I can't belive what im watching 😮

Racist racist racist . Did anyone explain apartied to this in bred carel . They all called carel

Only a matter of time until DA supports this.

I think there is a place for community self development with some framework from govt. All share block, corporate residential blocks , ratepayers groups have some rules. However , race should not be a qualifying criteria. If i as an indian would like to live in places like Orania, i should subscribe to their rules . If not - i go somewhere else .

This only means that Orania is in some sort of trouble or they know they will be left behind.

Halachuu. Akere le evoutetse ANC?

Recognised as what exactly? It should remain a plaas nothing more.

Very interesting indeed

Where are all the clever blacks who voted for the DA?? This is the result of your actions!

Hahahahah the nerve... Let Julius give his 3cents

Nonsense

Sise Kakeni yaze yasenzela amawaza ANC😢😢

Never ever sorry

Why asking the circus for recognition, look at the state of SA at the moment but you want recognition from those who destroyed the country??

Why not talking about this black African boy 14 year old been rape with three old black man in age of 40 years

ORANIA IS A STAND ALONE AFRIKANER USING OLD FLAG REMIND ME TEREBLANCHE WALKING IN A HORSE AT ICC AND ASSALUTED RAJ BANSI. IS THIS THIS STILL GNU 😎😎

Please no orania nonsense don’t talk about it is a pain in our neck

At least they know they are a side-show, hence the call for recognition

He is being disingenuous. He says that Orania is not any different tahn any community that is exclusively back i South Arica. Which of course is not true because there are no such "exclusively" black communities in South Africa, in fact there are no communities in South Africa that claim to forbid people who are not a certain ethnicity from joining in those communities. There are white people in townships, ver few yes, but they are there nonetheless, there are white people in every village in South Africa, South African communities are all mixed except Orania.

Ek is ja maar meneer... whatever you smoked we don't want it 😂😂😂😂😅 uyabheda njeh

I think the person who voted for the EFF did it just for the memes. 😂

Recognized as what ?

Racism sugar coated 😂😂😂

Why give airtime to jokers?

Why now?

If want you to live as Europeans, amongst each other, then go to Europe. Its very simple

Who sings national anthems in their homes. What a question

Orania is like the formation of the state of Israel... they have a lot in common and the first similarity is racism

Government of FF+,DA and Ramaphosa unity.

Orania is a new issue the ANC must begin by returning the land to the right full owner that is the real issue.

THAT WON'T HAPPEN. 4GET