FFXIV Just Announced Huge Job Changes for Dawntrail 

Getting rid of the target requirement for BRD songs is HUGE. You literally couldn't get a song up during boss invuln phases because there was no one to target.

Your 'I'm not certain what the purpose of this is' for bard was at a strict opposition to the 'OH MY GOSH NOW I DON'T LOSE MY ROTATION FOR THE NEXT TWO MINUTES IF THE BOSS DISAPPEARS' I heard from the bards popping my ears! As a summoner who likes phoenix for healing (I was a healer main before) I am WEEPING of the loss of every other phoenix :(

You’re honestly one of my favorite youtubers covering stuff for DT and general gil making topics, calm narration and quick summaries! Thank you so much for making content ❤

quick extra note, DRK and GNB got their movement abilities changed to not deal damage anymore, similar to the DRG change. these two tanks were the busiest in terms of button presses so i guess this change was meant to reduce that

Oof, Solar Bahamut seems like such a misstep. People have wanted more of the primals to make appearences for forever, so they are adding a new primal and... it is another Bahamut? Seems like this is getting a pretty negative response just for the missed chance. I know the people who comment are more likely the negative crowd but just... why not anything else?

AST getting their card variety back was on my wishlist. I’m so happy it’s back and those seals are gone thank god.

Machinist just keeps getting more bad ass. He summoned a fighting robot then pulled out 2 huge turret guns and a flying robot and launched like 20 homing missiles. I love it.

Hate how solar bahamut looks

As always I waited to hear from you rather than others. I was not disappointed. I play the Dancer and your comment on the Viper as a "Melee Dancer" took me from not really interested to "I have to check this out". Please continue to keep us well informed.

As a DRG main, i don't want to lose a Jump for a Dash. It's what we know and do best! People jump ahead to enemies because its cool and fun. Getting replaced by a dash is just super sad

Red mage has one of most beatiful VFX in the entire game 10/10

For viper - basic 3 part combo. Left/right weapon skills. R1 gives debuff, L2 gives dmg up, R2 gives haste, L3/R3 gives finisher buff. The next combo finisher has to end with whatever icon of the finisher buff you get from previous combo. - double blade combo has 2 charges. Each charge leads to 2 3 part combos. After performing both combos it gives you a red gem - red gem is used to spend on a 3 part ranged combo (possibly aoe) - super saiyan cost 50 gauge. The 2 minute buff gives you free use of super saiyan and 1 red gem

As someone who plays summoner quite a bit I feel like this was a missed opportunity to add Shiva instead of adding a new bahamut or the solar model should have replaced the old Bahamut. Or…., hear me out add Shiva, Ramuh, and Leviathan but treat summons like the blue mage where you choose this primal the other one goes on CD. It allows variation at the same time with not messing with the core rotation.

Second new Bard ability looks like an upgraded version of Bloodletter. Having the damage and target component removed from songs is great for ensuring you are always gaining song gauge even when an enemy is not present which is great. As for the Straight Shot and Shadowbite ready statuses being combined that's a big win because it allows Shadowbite to be combined with Barrage at will which was a major pain during AoE situations. No longer do we have to fish for Shadowbite procs just to use Barrage on multiple targets. I was hoping for an improved version of Sidewinder but it could still see a damage increase I suppose, we'll have to see.

So many potential summons for smn to get, and we just get a variant of what we already have. Kinda lame 😅

I don't main Dragoon, but changing one of their jumps to a dash seems to go against the feeling of the job. Dragoon = jump high to me.

Ty for taking the time to make this :)

without seeing the new kit it's hard to say for certain, but based on the current kit, changing swift cast to 40 seconds won't really impact summoner at all. in order to maximize your damage, you have to use swift cast on slipstream to capture it under the searing light buff. So unless someone needs a raise during the very specific timeframe between it coming off cooldown, but not less than 40 seconds before you need to use it on slipstream, and while you're not in bahamut/phoenix mode, I don't see summoners using this much more for raises. also I'm not sure that summoner got its garuda/titan/ifrit window reduced. you can see in the benchmark that they didn't use up all the gem charges, they also didn't use any of the astral flow abilities or show bahamut, so it would seem that they just didn't show off all the summoner's kit. I would assume the rotation will be that you'll always be in solar bahamut for burst windows (if they continue with the two minute window) and that you'll alternate between phoenix and bahamut in the 60 second off windows

Glad to see that Bard changes. Bard mains needed that Songs change. Also for the first new skill "the jumping green arrows" I hope that this is an ability we can use in the Army's Paeon Song, because every song has it's unique ability activated, e.g Wanderer's Minuet has Pitch Perfect, Mage's Ballad has Bloodletter and for Army's Paeon maybe now a new skill.

Small note about red mage. Using resolution (leaning towards this) or finishing a combo under manafication grants the rdm with the "4th finisher". The "4th Finisher" is actually an ogcd granted by one of these 2 conditions i mentioned earlier. You can see the buff status (gained) effect after they press resolution. You can also see it grants no black or white mana. SE just demonstrated it poorly but the job is probably a bit busier now with some new opti tools if the ogcd is magic based.

this helped me understand Picto so much better, very excited to play it in Dawntrail

I’m curious about astro mp management now. The current card system helps maintaining healthy mp quite a bit. I’m very keen to see how this new card system plays out though, not having astro signs is a good change i think.

Giant HAMMER, yes! I'm not even a WAR main, but I saw that and was like "BIGGEST axe?!". Then I watched a bunch of content creator impressions and NONE OF THEM seemed to care. They were just so focused on other Jobs or things as mechanically as possible. "So, WAR's rotation looks unchanged. Okay, moving on..." and I was like "BUT BIG AXE...!?!?!" Good to see someone else gets it! "Whoever came up with that is a genius"; /agree

I main SCH and it does look like Adlo and Succor getting an animation upgrade finally. Reduce cooldown to recitation is a nice change. I can see them replacing Dissipation with their costume change ability, which buffs Emergency Tactics via Adlo and Succor to be instant cast now. That is huge to me. Not much excited for chain follow-up with that AoE DoT. I can see it as a.....somewhat a comeback to Shadowflare back in the day. It's a ok addition though. I don't care much about SCH being flash. My whole idea for the job is to have more utilities that helps the party's survivability

amazing summary and so quickly, love it

My guess is that the RMD does not get an extra finisher, but the final attack is just the upgraded version of Contre de Sixte that they kept for the end.

I really liked SHB Astro. I was hoping it would return to the Astrologian's Sects, Diurnal and Nocturnal. I felt it gave more options depending on what job the other healer in your raid is

Summoner feels good right now. Summon get their abilities rinse repeat….not it feels like we are moving to just spam summon with less eikon abilities to use. Also why give us a bahamut variant? Alexander, leviathan, or Ramuh would have been cool. Over all really disappointed with summoner for dawntrail.

really concise, well-worded explanation! there was so much new info in the live letter; you do a great job going over it! also 26:21 ily for "if you actually play dancer like just-press-glowy-buttons, you are probably just a horrible dancer player" THANK 👏 YOU 👏 as a DNC main in high-end content I appreciate you so much ❤️ I'm still just a bimbo phys ranged and it's definitely not the hardest job but I loathe how often people act like it doesn't have a ton of optimization

Honestly SUPER excited for Viper!! I like the idea of a “fast-paced melee dancer” and it seems like more of a technical job where you have to determine what’s better to use in a given situation. The opener will likely be set in stone, but from there on there likely won’t be a standard rotation and you’re instead rewarded for being able to adapt well to what buffs/debuffs are currently in play. This is just my take on Viper and I could very well be wrong, but the aesthetics and gameplay really have me enraptured. I can’t wait!!!

Looks like I'll wait with leveling every job to 90 until Dawntrail release, so I don't have to re-learn every job from 90-100

Warrior seems to be getting an upgrade to Decimate that gives it a Fell Cleave-like effect as well, seen at 2:44 in the Job Actions video.

I felt the exact opposite about viper and pictomancer. I feel like they explained viper better. With the way they set up the bars, it looks exactly like how I would set up mine with the AOE on one side and single target on the other. Then when multiple buttons light up, you pick what one to use based on if you are multi target or single target, and what buff you are under. It will take practice to recognize the buffs, and which skills go with which buffs, but the concept itself is pretty simple. I imagine in raid you'll want to go double-bladed right away, and get into Reawakened asap to burst, and then you'll have to come back to dual blade to build back to double bladed and then reawakened again for burst phase etc. Pictomancer... I have no idea what the rotation is. They showed us how to do each of the renders, and obviously the landscape one being the party buff, you'll want to do that for raid buff windows, but like... are the other 2 motifs burst? Is your paint gauge at max your burst? What goes where when? It's not clear at all.

I wonder how the AST cards will work. If i draw 3 of the usual cards at once, does that mean I have to cast one before the other... Like, what if I dont want to use my heal buff card but it happens to be first in the list, do i have to cast that heal card before i can get to the 2nd one in the deck?

thanks for the highlights

The changes to MNK, AST and potentially BLM all feel like they are standardizing jobs that had more flexable or 'priority based' rotation decisions. I... hate that? I don't know how each of these will play, and there are a lot of changes I see that I like... but I think these are changing core things about the classes that some players think is important about their fav jobs.

I personally prefer austhetic of the WHM Temperance wings over the SCH Seraphism transformation, but i'll take what I can as a SCH main lol

GNB new bloodfest combo is basically Squall's final Limit break lionheart

As NIN main i've analyzed that trailer so many times 😅 Here's some you didn't mention: -kunai stacked consumed by Aeolian Edge so it's probably just a dmg buff of sort -the thousand slashes (as i like to call) is basically just new bhavacakra -the poison spit give 40 ninki like meisui, also gives buff of some sort based on effect animation around the player right after using the skill

Rdm jolt and impact both got improvements too as u can see in the animations

oooh a sage dot AND a party kardi sound fun. also the ast card change i can see being super freaking useful but i can predict lots of toxicity incoming with ppl complaing about not having their card buffs lol but im all about shooting everyone with my yugioh deck

awesome video buddy

On the BRD the big red arrow is most likely upgraded... stack cooldown arrow. I forget it's name atm. Bloodletter?

exactly what i needed, very nice summary

was really hoping for a propper DOT class this expansion, guess thats not happening until they completely rework how debuff stacks limitation on enemies works

As someone who is studying Japanese, your pronunciation is solid!

can't wait to give this game another shot :) thanks for the review I am going for samurai and Redmage as summoners :) and reaper

Hellfrog Large had me rolling

It looks like armor crush will enpower the next two Aeorlian edges simular to monk

As a PLD main, im happy with the buff to mits and happy with the new animations.

This isn't really something new for expansion releases. Just about every expansion tends to have significant changes, additions, or even subtractions to either add to the job, ease the flow of the jobs performance, or in some cases entirely revamp the job. Sometimes I look forward to the changes, but other times I tend to be less receptive of the changes about to come. I still wish they would work on some of the meter based jobs to allow them to build it similar to how mnk or sam can during transitions, but at least some of the changes are taking into consideration that not having it for a burst window was an issue, sometimes significant issue, once the transition was over, either that or get rid of phase transitions.

When i saw how fast-paced Viper gameplay is, the more hype i get to play it. But as a tank main player, I'm more excited for the 4 tanks, especially PLD and GNB.

the fact that Salt and Darkness still stayed let me know they don't freaking care about DRK. Meanwhile they added 3 new DPS skills for WAR which all look awesome, as if they need more DPS.

Pictomancer looks freaking _awesome._ It's unique, and I love the idea of seeing Krile and other little potatoes running around bonking things with comically large hammers lol

For WAR you forgot the upgraded Inner Chaos, which looks sick by the way.

Is just me or it feels like WHM got nothing once again ? Also, I am so tired to see ppl claim whm is doing less healing than all other healers "you can run a parse" dude I know that half white mage don’t even use plenary indulgence and that the other half is being screamed at to stop healing and start doing dps. SO OF COURSE IN YOUR GROUP THE WHM DID LESS HEALING

RDM main here. So pictomancer seems to have gotten an AoE heal and red mage didn’t get that kinda utility? Given the nature of RDM that seems like a missed opportunity imo

I am a little skeptical about SGE kardion and soteria. I feel they are kinda useless trait and abilities. I don’t see a significant change in healing while nuking mobs, and even while using Soteria, I end up using burst healing and shields, anyways, so, I hope that these changes make a difference About AST, my ex-main healer, I was like “again all three cards?”. I hope it’s a good change , let’s see how it plays out. I wonder if they kept Exaltation. I also think the post-healing effect is useless after a tank buster or something, because of the burst healing after a one of those abilities, I think the healing effect was wasted. Besides that, loved that other new effects ! The solar system and the twelve signs ability were awesome

I can't wait to play as a Viper!

Damn they forgot to remove DRK Souleater ability with it's god awful animation and replace it with power slash or any of the other countless cool looking abilities they removed over the years, how silly of them. Good thing I'm not a consolebab and can at least mod it.

I think your DRK information is a little outdated. Since endwalker, delirium only gives 3 casts of bloodspiller. It gave 5 in shadowbringers. Under delirium, these bloodspillers restore mp. They restore more mp and blood gauge under the 5 stacks of blood weapon, and since the effects are combined, that's exactly what's happening. This upgrade is only an animation (and presumably potency) change, similar to pld atonements. The benchmark datamine makes it seem like bloodspiller is going to turn into this combo under delirium, so more than likely the execution is going to be the exact same as in endwalker with one new gcd (the living shadow finisher) just like paladin.

I just wish they will really squash all the basic combos into 1 key like in PvP mode. It's getting really clustered for most jobs

My whm liked presence of mind + holy since it was the only AOE. This new spell is nice. My smn is gonna miss the second phoenix as mentioned, hopefully solar Bahamut makes up for it. My nin also was large bullfrog! I like my whm wings already! I use it a lot in Bozjan front. That's a pretty sweet dot on sage! Seems unbalanced to me compared to the other healers for aoe dmg. I like your DNC "click the glowy button" comment. I hadn't seen many DNC until this current crossover. I wish we were getting Time Mage. The game really doesn't use debuffs as good as FF 11 did.

People complaining they took the complexity out of monk are deciding themselves if they thought it used to be complex or difficult. There was no variation. Everyone of em looked up the guide and the opener and monk was as rigid as any other class. This just removes the disguise.

That new fire spell of BLM looks like the Meltdown spell from dissidia.

@4:29 Lionheart?

Hmmm honestly kinda sad that NIN lost Houton management, it was kidna fun to feel like I had this extra plate I had to keep spinning, but hopefully the new Kunai gauge adds back in something new and fun to manage

picto needs to get a support job in the future! please SE!!

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They missed the occasion to make Huton into a DoT, ninja still doesn't have that. Also I want Hellfrog Well-Done.

Seraph detail on sch and taking from whm is rather disrespectful I agree

Has nothing to do with this patch but id really like a real summoner. A class that has a bunch of summons out at all times and mainly does the things it does through the summons and not by itself.

AST got the most flame during the live stream, people hating this new change that removes this job's characteristic even further edit: for me, i already give up playing AST bcs of the removal of nocturnal & diurnal sect

Ngl, wasn’t very excited bout dawntrail but combat changes are hyping me up. Hopefully there is more goodness and changes to systems that make it worth the purchase 👍

I've never heard of anyone who liked the buff and debuff management of MNK. It's tedious and unfun.

Man my ninja and monk... It doesn't bode well 😂 keeping up huton was a mini game itself, and for monk... Idk 😂😂

Pictomancer spells look so silly and cute, its definitely gonna be my new main class

Good bye RNG cards.. hello mundane 1 and 2 minute buff window.. I miss Royal Road and Sleeve Draw. I never cared about RNG I love it, it adds spice.

Wow I think over all most changes were great. I won't lie monk, blm worried me. And whm and smn wasn't as good as I hoped but so far it seems like they listen to alot a feedback amd tried new things. I'm excited to see how it works out

Another black mage gauge lol but yea that MP regen change sucks

Could a gotten Alexander or even hydaelyn but they decided to go with another bahamut I don't get it man😂

Can't wait to have a freaking seizure whenever I play Viper trying to DDR all the clicky buttons :)

I wish they would shake up combat a little more, more procs, more RNG. Set, predictable rotations are just so bland. Have the jobs have more clear-cut interactions with secondary stats as well.

I LOVED the removal of positioning requirements for the Dragoon combos (damn, that was complicated) and of the Huton as something you have to activate. Activating Huton manually felt SO unnecessary and unwieldy.

Ive no idea what pictomancer really even does but they look dope af and def replacing summoner for me cause wth is demi bahamut? How boring. They really going to do my favorite class since before the egi rework like that? Like come on

It's worth mentioning that "nonstandard" black mage rotations more or less require mp tick plugins

It looks like for MNK, the equivalents for Leaden Fist, Disciplined Fist, and Demolish are now shown in the job gauge, and the gems match up with how often MNK currently upkeeps those buffs with their default GCD. If I had to guess, each pip of each form will give a potency buff to the respective form's alternate attack (bootshine, true strike, and snap punch) just the way Leaden Fist currently does. I prefer having the job gauge to keep track of the state of MNK's rotation than having to glance at my buffs and my targets debuffs. MNK's off-minute rotation will be less strict because they don't need to have Disciplined Fist and Demolish active before spamming Opo-Opo attacks. The job gauge will make it easier to set up MNK's Brotherhood window using exclusively buffed attacks from each form and one or two Dragon Kicks, regardless of Skillspeed. (DoT is very weird in FFXIV, damage ticking on the enemy's HoT/DoT tick, not the debuff's timer, so MNK always refreshes Demolish before perfect balance to not lose a DoT tick).

Totally agree on DNC, its easy to pick up but takes more skill to actually be good at it

My biggest worry with the new Scholar transformation is how it looks on some races. Just from this clip, it looks awful on the miqote. Imagine any other race besides elezan and hyur. Horns, ears, tails GONE with a very unappealing (20 second) robe. The wings also look unnaturally bad. I think ive seen better wing accessories in the wild than that. But ill reserve my opinion until more info comes back. Perhaps this is just a beta version before it gets better.

Okay first of people didn't like mnk relying on buffs and dots. we have very much since shadowbringers asked to have this aspect of our rotation changed to be more about attacking our foes, instead of being relying applying a dot and a buff to ourselves. heck some mnk players even found rotations that don't use snake-strike.

I play world of warcraft but dabbled in this game for 9 months and it was fun as hell. All these changes look amazing and the spell effects and how flashy things are should be well received. Not sure why people are complaining

Do tanks even need defensive buffs? Just make Dark Knight and Gunbreaker less shitty. Doing buffs across the board will keep Darknight and Gunbreaker rather flimsy compared to the other two.

People who complain about BLM's changes are people who don't deal with ping issues. That's literally the very reason they decided to change how BLM gets MP. Due to how problematic server ticks can be. I'm super happy with all the changes, in all the jobs. My only nitpick is that Viper's colors are not red, as I hoped it would be, but rather blue again. There's too much blue already! GNB, SMN, DRG, some PLD skills, some WHM skills. Why blue again, Yoshi-P?! 😆

Personally, I don't like the look of pictomancer. Seems complicated and a wasted job. They have not talked about the beast master at all and personally, I think THAT should have been the new main class, not a fancy painter >.>

In response to everyone going "same ol same ol/everything is ruined": Same ol same ol doomers claiming their fave job being slightly different is somehow going to be the 1 (one) reason the game finally collapses, for the 5th expac in a row lmao.

The pictomancer uses 3 colors but they aren’t the primaries? Strange.

The people freaking out about the changes need to be put in perspective... These people are assuming the class will work in a similar way, but with these announced changes... Like, blm... "Oh god, they're going to make us cast ice spells?! THEY RUINED THE CLASS! BOO!" Okay, but what if the ice spells are worth casting? Is it still ruined? We literally played AROUND umbral phase in EW. With transpose, instant procs, and paradox we literally avoided using ice spells at all basically.... it was literally a dps increase to skip casting Blizzard 4, stack sps and just burn Fire 4s into a despair, transpose, paradox, filler instants, transpose, fire 3 proc (if available) then fire 4 spam into despair again. We literally eliminated casting Fire 1s, Blizzard 4s, blizzzard 3s.... The only thing we did that was remotely "ice" like was Paradox while in Umbrail Ice to get to 2 stacks so we could get enough MP lol. Literally only used Fire 3, Fire 4, Despair, Xeno, Lightning 4, and paradox... making our weakest hit just shy of 500 potency, but making the rotation just dumb. Any change they makes that removes that ridiculous optimization which eliminated many of your spells is fine by me. Saw people freaking out about the Monk changes, even had people crying about "class fantasy" ?!?!?!?! What? What part of a monk sounds like it should be maintaining a dot and a buff? It should be hitting thinks with fists.... I HATED the fantasy of a monk relying on a dot. I am so excited to see a monk class that will (hopefully) play like a damn monk! Samurai, reaper, and dragoon changes are nifty but smaller than I expected. It mostly seems like QoL stuff, and the occasional shiny new thing. The Tanking changes are pretty meh, making drk and gnb a bit less hectic is good... Pally changes are basically a zero, but we just got a recent rework so its fine. Warrior stuff is just an extra button on the back end of the burst, but I guess thats really all it needed. Felcleave was fun, but it just didn't hit like a 10-tonze hammer. I imagine the blm finisher after 6 Fire 4s is actually just a new Despair... Which is cool. I believe the summoner rotation is Solar -> Regular -> Solar -> Phoenix. Meaning our opener and even minute bursts are now solar bahamut... and our odd number bursts rotate between phoenix and bahamut. Basically, phoenix and bahamut are now just odd minute fillers to get to the even burst... and our fillers change color from blue to red Red mage is pretty meh, I've never been a huge fan and now its hefty finisher combo is just hefty-er and finisher-y-er... If you want something to be upset about, be upset about the healer changes. THEY REMOVED AERO 3 YEARS AGO!!! Now they are giving it back to SAGE?! WHY?! Aero 3 was my favorite spell! GIVE IT BACK! Anywho... AST changes are probably cool, and people are freaking out about that a LOT. I think it will make it much more playable (and by that I mean it will make ASTs in random groups less terrible)

As a BLM main that didn't use the double transpose lines, I still hate this. Removing skill expression sucks. And even without non-standard play there's skill in simply understanding the flow of a job. Did they ruin BLM? No. But they did make it less interesting. Well played Square. Boo this change. Booooooo!

Same ol same ol then :/

Picto painting theme is kinda lame but how it plays looks cool w those supportive skills, and looks so cool.