FFXIV - The MarketBoard experience 

As a someone who frequently use the market board I can guarantee that killing off the competition is in fact the best way to do it.

the real experience would be that the other lala would put it up for 249,999 instead

Buy all the cheaper ones and relist for more than your original listing for maximum profit (or miserably lose milions of gil and ponder existence)

Just remember kids, if someone undercuts you, you can always try these three easy tips: 1) Undercut them back 2) Buy their stock and resell it at your original price 3) Memorize their username in your sleep, main a healer, and eventually - eventually, you will be able to watch that pitiful being die at your hands as many times as it takes to quell the unending fury unmatched by even black mage ragers

99 HQ mats for 198 is a steal I mean literally, buy that sh*t from the undercutter and sell at a higher price

Fun fact: You should always check for money bags, sometimes people list them for lower than you can sell to NPCs.

the freer the market the freer the suffering

Just buy it and relist.

Ah yes the universal mmo experience. Back when I played ESO, this happened a lot. The solution was murder.

Some see a nuisance. Others see a 249998 Gil Profit.

"3 bread for 400 emeralds, take it or leave it" Minecraft villagers

Not only buy up the cheaper ones, but then sell them on your second retainer for a slightly lower price than your first retainer to simulate an intense undercutting war to make the material look like it truly is that valuable to the unsuspecting MB customer Works 50% of the time 100% of the time

Oh no, off screen violence!

you forgot the part where then 748 people immediately undercut to 1 gil

Seriously why do people do this? I start to notice after all the videos people make about the issue and realize they do in fact price the materials or whatever your trying to sell a lot lower by either 100 or 300 or so on making it lose value. Do they realize they can make more if they don't do that? I guess as others suggest you can always buy them low and resell then high.

Maaan, this is too real. I didn't even realized I got undercut so bad because im busy with pvp 😭 at least undercut by 100 gil or something, not 90% of my price 😭

Ah, "accidental" market inflation at its finest

The pain. Ive been waiting on my rosewood logs to sell and people keep undercutting my priiiice

As someone who does this in other games, buy theirs and trade it in at higher value. If they keep doing it then you can keep buying it and selling more unless it's an absolutely useless item you're selling. Even right now in paladins there's the Bounty Coin Marketplace. I made 10000 recently by buying and selling the cheap Viktor skin repeatedly

There is a special place in hell for people who do drastic undercuts.

The only times I sold something for 1 gil is because i needed to make space in my bags ASAP and cuz nobody was buying anything for almost a month xD

Simple Buy the underpriced mats and resell them for 500x the original price. Works every time for me-

Blink one second and you'll miss the next undercutter on the line.

Honestly, I should try doing this irl. Sell everything walmart sells but for half price and open the store next door to every walmart.

I usually do a big brain move. In the situation above, for example. Instead of putting up 99 ( rounding it at 2500 each for easier math) for a higher price. I would put up a stack of 10 for say 3000 each. This way, I will get the people who only need a small amount without having to spend more. This way, I am not screwing the market. The Downside to this is that it takes up more slots, but they can sell faster, so that is a trade-off. What drives me bonkers is when people put up only a few stacks lower than the lowest price. Your stack of 2 will still be bought at a higher price vs the 10 lowest price that has a stack of 99.

I used to do that shit in Spiral knights. Often making 3 to 5 really cheap listings as fast as possible to lower the energy prices that people would see so that I could buy more of the stuff in bulk, and then sell it in bulk when the prices were high. It worked sometimes, but the gamble was always fun.

Walmart

That is the best scenario, just buy that stack and sell it for profit... The true pain is when a bot sells for [your price] - 1 assuming you are undercutting the rest...

Loterally what is happening with drippys in the market board. Its really sad and kinda crazy to watch 3 ppl fight. Lowering the gil each time to just ine person trying to sell it. So far it went from 1,200,000 gil to 899,999 gil.

When I was in an FC that participated in the market, they would just buy all the super cheap stuff and sell it at regular or higher prices once they controlled the market

I've gotten so burnt out on undercutters that I just look at the sold list for an item and then place mine according to averages, then let it sit and forget about it. Everytime I've asked for a realistic price I eventually get a notification sometime in the same week that it's sold. Trying to metagame hard is a waste of time that could be spent on getting stuff that will sell, or could even be a good pull during a time when no one is interested in farming it (I recently checked a marketboard on my server and the F&F Hairstyle which is usually sitting at 200-300k was suddenly gone from the interest and random people were starting to buy the current standard that was 900k-1mil because there was so few people spending their energy farming Eureka Pyros).

I've seen once someone putting a thavnairian onion for 7 gil. Sorry buddy, but i am buying that onion and reselling it back at MB price, thanks for the gil.

Undercutting is fine and all, just remember to keep it within acceptable range of other people's prices. (edit: forgot a two-letter word)

Market Board indirectly taught me about the stock market and how to trade irl

A true marketboardier would have bought them and immediately resold them for higher.

Hey I use that market board! It's between my apartment and FC house up the hill!

To be fair when this happens at that extreme (and it does) I just buy it and re-sell it at my price... Gotta save the market !

Srsly its like this in any MMO ppl want to have 100k of money now isntead of waiting1 day and get 10 times xD

Honestly I would have just bought all 99 of those 2 gil ones and sold them to an npc merchant.

considering she put up 99 mats for 2 gil, it must be 2 gil each... meaning op put up 99 mats for 250 000 each! That's over 24 million gil total!

We buy those, and then immediately put them back up on the market for normal price.

Don't be mad. Some of us just want to get rid of our stuff but won't sell it to those cheap ass npcs

I do this for fun. Why yes, I did win during the housing lottery, how did you know?

This is the MB right next to my FC and I use it every day. Weird feeling.

I like games where you can pick which price to buy at. It is courtesy to skip over the players who undercut others by paltry amounts.

I bought her stuff and sold it back at 3x the price.

Do what I do and buy the cheap ones and sell them for a higher price

People who do this are no doubt trolls with nothing better to do and grind all day

Sometimes I wish player kill servers existed just so I could become a market board bounty hunter. FOR THE PEOPLE.

That's where you buy a up all the cheap stock and upsell it for what it was worth before. Thank you for the free gil

This is litterally me And by that I mean my character is a blond female lalafell who frequently wears pink and undercuts people on the marketboard.

I have seen all these high prices on the market board and my boyfriend told me 1 time in a different game who had the same thing that he bought all the low priced stuff on the market board and sold it higher price. Making the needs of certain items higher need xD His friend was like "I can't get these things for 300k. Why is it so expensive" "I dunno my dude. Quite a MyStErY" he replied nervously He's friend knew from that point it was him xD

People who are putting stacks with 99 items on MB deserve a very special place in hell. This becomes a thing whenever there's an influx of new players from other MMOs and it reeks of stupidity. (also, the 2 gil crowd consists of people who can't read tooltips and think the vendor sell-prices are the price of the item...)

It always bugged me that people would even put things on the MB for LESS THAN WHAT SELLS TO AN NPC VENDOR!!! This thing sells for 50 Gil at a vendor WHY are you putting it up for 1 Gil? 😅🤣

This made me die inside. I hate when ppl do this. D:

There's a lot of lazy people who'll use the market board for easily accessible things like glamour prisms, so even when I'm undercut by over a 100 gil, I know I'll eventually see a profit. (Glamour prisms tend to sell for 250 from my experience) Edit: also I've sold dyes you can get from mercants for much cheaper. I stopped doing that because that felt a little too scummy, but if you have no morals, you can most likely still make a profit.

It's not just an FF thing. It's staggering how MMO players don't understand economics. Everything has a value and selling your supply of the good below market price screws you over, since you get less, and everyone else as now the market has to match your new low. Undercutting only makes sense if you need gold in the next 30 seconds. Otherwise, sell it at the current lowest and get your money within two days. Players undercutting each other all day just lead to a rich veteran buying up the entire auction house to dictate a new, bloated price. It's called resetting and sucks butts.

I love seeing heavy undercuts way below the average price, normally it's done by someone who's impatient for money and needs a small amount for something else, so they dump something they don't need they know will sell onto the market. Generally incredibly underpriced items sell almost instantly, if you manage to see someone doing this the first instinct should be to buy it as fast as possible for resale, unless FFXIV's marketplace works differently than practically every other MMO in existence.

I’ll admit, sometimes I do this. But only if it’s a material I know a new player may need and won’t have the Gil for. So I try to give newbies a head start 😓 I remember needing stuff I just couldn’t get when I started.

I love it when people do that... I just buy them and profit :D

Such is life for Eorzean crafters and collectors. Ngl it's hilarious having these trade wars, especially when you're involved in several. You under sell, they go below your price and you keep going back and forth until the item is completely devalued and you buy their stock cheaper and change the price back to the original or higher and you make extra gil. You just need to know when to do this lol.

idk why he gets mad, it's so cheap that i would buy it and sell that aswell as its intended price lol.

buying it and relisting only works if the market is more global, but sadly this ain't RuneScape and market flipping doesn't work in ffxiv

Just buy out the ones that have undercut soooo much (or priced without any knowledge), and sell it at your own desired price again... works like a charm most of the time :P

Do not go down the WOW community road, in which they mass report someone just for selling things cheaper than they do. Also, those materials will be sold in about 5 minutes. So one will not have to deal with the competition for long, and the high end crafters are really rich, so they do not care about the high price

As a non-crafter and always suffering from poverty, I can proudly say that I'm the Warrior of Limbo. ANY GIL that I can make is good enough for me. No matter how low you are willing to sell your items without deficit, I can always go LOWER. I HAVE NO STANDARDS.

Just buy out the competition if it's cheap enough and control the market for that specific item for a limited time

There's absolutely nothing wrong with undercutting with even 90% if it's a crafted item that takes 5 seconds to make and the materials cost next to nothing. I sometimes see people buy my reasonably priced stuff and relist it back at the "market price" and I just put more for sale. And I'm still making a decent profit. For the actually rare stuff sure, ask whatever you want. Even then I personally make a point not to buy from the 1 gil undercutters. If there's a thing I want and the 3 lowest listings are something like 1000000, 999999 and 999998 I will obviously pick the 1000000 gil one. Those other 2 can fight it out for as long as they want. Don't be too greedy, kids.

Then here's me sometimes buying orchestrion rolls from the main cities for like 5k gil and selling them on the market board for 50k Seriously, check your world's market board right now for Wailers and Waterwheels Orchestrion Roll. Hell, check your DATA CENTER in general and it will be selling for at LEAST double the price. It's literally like 10 meters from the Gridania aetheryte for 5k gil from the person who sells default clothes.

I hate when there is stuff that people are buying everyday for 100k and we undercut each other for 1-5 gil,, and then one person find something by retainer or craft one item, and sell it for 50k ...and then is happy that, WoW, I got 50k, while you could easily sell it for double price everyday. OMG. It can be so frustrating when someone kills good income for everyone

Why get angry? Buy the massive undercuts and sell them for profit. Some people really don't know how to use the markets and power-sell.

I had a friend that was stupidly rich in the game. He would undercut people with 10 of the same item and then buy other people undercut thus lowering the market price. Because no one will buy all the 10 200k items and someone will eventually come along and undercut and people will readjust their price because they need gil. They would buy those items and rise the price back up to their true profits 🤣 I ain't approving of what he did to the market but some people are just that rich in this game

I'm actually wheezing with laughter for this! that is sooo true. 🤣

It's called "Playing the market". Not only are you spending a lot for the goods, but charging more when you sell the goods

I Just go down by 10 gil, no point in dragging prices down by the thousands I've seen people do. seem some items drop thousands in a few hours.

I dont play the 1 gil game I drop it by 10k depending on the item I normally do it with people hustling into my orchestrion roll monopoly. could have chilled at 300k, but nooo they want to drop it down to 50k

I once crashed the crystal market by getting into a bidding war with this one guy who kept tryign to undercut me..then this third person started doing it to until the price was like..less than half the cost of the original crystals... I then maybe bought them out and brought my prices all back up to the original price they were supposed to sell for.

If you truly wanted this to be 100% accurate, have it so the lalafell they see is actually a robot piloted by some korean/chinese gold farmer character several districts away, before said bot vanishes instantly for .5 seconds and returns in mining gear with 5 billion crystal shards/ect. to pump them into the market again.

My grift is there's a fish you can buy from a vendor for like 2k per 99 stack then I just sell that on the market for like 50k

I used to just post at the default suggested price bc I didn't know I could compare prices...whoops

personally buy their stock ( not if it too $$$ ) and put it back on mb 1-20 gil below my price

I sell important things for 75% less than the asking price, just to increase the suffering in this world.

You know, just buy the undercut mats and sell them back at market rate ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

I've made all of my money reselling terebith for 259 gil (it goes for 60 in shop)

The true pvp, I've watched a item drop in value 50% purely due to undercutting.

Or people who are selling stuff you can buy from an NPC for much more and some poor sprouts do not know this 😒

This is why it's preferable to sell things with an obnoxious barrier to entry like gem vouchers

Don't want to be undercut? Sell at a reasnoable price.

There is no such thing as "noobs not listing at the right price ruining the market". Two scenarios exist: 1. Their low price is so low you can flip for enormous profit. 2. Their price is the actual value of an item and you are listing for too much. Either case you can fix your "problem".

I just gather a sh!t ton of shards and crystals to sell on the market board. They're the one thing that always sells like hotcakes!

A retainer was just assaulted. No real players were harmed in the makings of this video

I already know Im gonna get undercut so I beat them to it and undercut myself.

I once went to every server on chaos and light eu and bought out every choco alpha. Big 🧠

now you see, the big brain thing to do is buy her mats for cheap and sell them back on the mb for a hire price

Times like this, just buy the 2 Gil rare matts and sell them for 250k Gil.

As a solely buyer (for now), i see this as a win 😎

People who sell materia below the shop selling price, why do you exist?

Simple, you just buy the one listed cheap and resell it at a mark up.

Simple, buy her cheap supplies and add them to yours to sell.

She’s laughing her as off 😂