Film Theory: Is Luke EVIL in Star Wars: The Force Awakens? 

If luke becomes a sith, obiwan is very bad at training jedi.

Imagine this: Kylo Ren is defeated in battle, and is forced to remove his helmet. The camera moves behind him, his hands reach up, and he slowly pulls it off his head. "Meesa sorry." He cries, before he collapses. It was Jar-Jar the whole time.

Mat pat in 2015: plapltine was cloned crazy right? Me in 2020: you have no idea

"How often do we see Yoda wrong?" Throughout the entirety Clone Wars and Episodes 1-3. His rigid mindset is his greatest flaw. His idea of the Jedi being an emotionless cult directly led to the rise of Darth Vader

If Star Wars 7 sucks, J.J Abrams shall be renamed to Jar Jar Abrams.

Even though this did not happen, one line I noticed... Luke talking to jabba: I warn you, *do* *not* *underestimate* *my* *power*. End of Battle of Episode ][ ][ ][: Obiwan: It's over anakin! I have the high ground! Anakin: *Do* *Not* *underestimate* *my* *Power*! See the resemblance?

MattPat: How often do we see Yoda wrong in this franchise? Me: Quite often, actually...

Anakin: don't underestimate my power Luke: don't underestimate my power

"It's like poetry... It rhymes" Anakin- "You underestimate my power." Luke- "I warn you not to underestimate my power."

Luke had more lines in the trailers than the movies... XD

those were the good times, when we thought the sequel trilogy could be good

MatPat: *Predicts Abrams' plans.* JJ Abrams: *Changes movie and only gives Luke one scene without lines.*

The Vader defending the Emperor scene always left me feeling a bit odd. After only 34 years I've finally figured out why, he may not have been protecting the Emperors life but rather was protecting his son from falling to the dark side.

Lol then in the actual movie luke skywalker gets 20 seconds of screen time and has no speaking parts.

"I warn you not to underestimate my power" Where have I heard that before...

"When has Yoda ever been wrong" Literally every movie he was in but ok

I saw the movie last night. He isn't evil.

This seems too obvious WHAT IF THIS IS WHAT JJ WANTS US TO THINK? HE WANTS US TO THINK THIS IS THE TWIST SO THAT HE CAN TWIST US LIKE A PRETZEL DURING THE FILM THAT GENIUS BASTARD

“ Seem like a stretch? ( laughs) it’s not! It is DEFINITELY a stretch

Boy this theories are way better after all the movies came out. Pure gold

It's like poetry... It rhymes. Jar Jar is the key to all this.

There is no Dark Side, nor a Light Side There is Only the Force I will do what I must to keep the balance The balance is what keeps me together There is no good without evil, but evil must not be allowed to flourish There is passion, Yet peace Serenity, Yet emotion Chaos, Yet order I am the wielder of the flame, the protector of balance I am the holder of the torch, lighting the way I am the keeper of the flame, soldier of balance I am a guardian of balance I am a Gray Jedi

Who watching in 2020 and has seen episode 9 and is laughing there heads off at this theory. PS: still a good theory MatPat

Best plot twist ever is LUKE BEING KYLO REN

This ain't got shit on the Darth Jar Jar theory

Both Film Theory AND CinemaSins put out a Star Wars video today? HYPE!

“Emperor Palpatine’s soul was reborn into a clone” This sounds very familiar

>Movie comes out: "Skidaddle Skidoodle, your theory is now a noodle!" ;D

Matpat,I am FROM THE FUTURE and Luke is in only like in 5 seconds of the movie.

this is so painful to watch after seeing the movie

This sounds slightly similar to Luke's character in Last Jedi... sort of

"If the secret got out they would lose a ton of money." Yeah because if we all knew what the sequel trilogy would've been like, we wouldn't have wasted money on tickets...

I'm not sure this is right. A big point for you is that Luke seems to be going the same route Anakin did, the dark side is starting to take control of him. But what is it's not? Remember, Anakin didn't just join the sith from being angry and feeling emotion in general but also because he was taught that it's wrong, almost like something to be ashamed of, that he *must* follow the jedi code but at the same time he sees that same code broken by jedi masters, just look at master Windu he tried to arrest Palpatine based on superficial evidence and then tried to make Anakin kill him. Anakin knew this was wrong, he knew that Palpatine should have been given a fair trial and this was more or less ruining what he saw the jedi as being. The great jedi master Mace Windu was breaking the jedi code and this is why at the end of the movie Anakin says that from his point of view the jedi are evil, they were hypocrites and breaking their only rules while also enforcing them on Anakin. Now look at Luke, he never knew about the jedi code, he was more or less told he shouldn't get angry and stuff(and also wasn't restricted from other things such as love) but not to the degree Anakin was and unlike Anakin, Luke never had the masters he looked up to break the code so he wholly saw the jedi as the good guys. Then we get to the end where Luke uses his anger to defeat Vader in battle and Palpatine seems to think that this means Luke has given himself up to the dark side but he didn't, to Luke he kind of couldn't see how something that simple would completely change someone and make them an evil person, he wasn't corrupted by the power but also didn't see any reason to avoid it like the jedi code tells you to. He was at a middle ground, not truly a jedi as he breaks the code but does not allow himself to be corrupted by the power. If Luke were in similar situations to Anakin in which he saw first hand that the jedi themselves were becoming corrupt perhaps he too would have started to favour the dark side and see them as right as they don't restrict emotion as the jedi do. But Luke never had that huge burden of trying to suppress his emotions, he never saw corruption of the jedi, at the end of the day Luke not properly being trained as a jedi is what saved him, unlike Anakin he has no reason to join the dark side because he has no reason to oppose the jedi, he sees the sith as evil while for Anakin, being close to the jedi and seeing what the jedi order was becoming, it wasn't quite so night and day. So really I don't see Luke being a sith lord at all because why would he? What reason does Luke have to join the sith when he sees them as evil and the jedi as good?

SPOILERS: Darth Vader is Luke's father

6:03 WOW!!! Yoda calling someone old, now that's something

Oh how none of us new how horrible the sequel trilogy was going to be

Just came back from December 18th, the movie is pretty heavy.

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MatPat: how often is Yoda wrong? …

SPOILERS I can't be the only one pissed the new republic were completely wiped out in 30 bloody seconds.

Who else is watching this 2016 and facepalming

Anyone watching in 2019 knows he was so far from the truth😂

Me watching this video and it has been for over a minute and realize Omg its "Friends"

IDK, the fact that this idea has already been planted seems reason enough for Jar Jar Abrams to not include it. No, Luke is just a Grey Jedi, like Qui-Gonn Jinn and Mace Windu. The Grey Jedi have a code as well. "There is no Dark Side, nor a Light Side There is Only the Force I will do what I must to keep the balance The balance is what keeps me together There is no good without evil, but evil must not be allowed to flourish There is passion, Yet peace Serenity, Yet emotion Chaos, Yet order I am the wielder of the flame, the protector of balance I am the holder of the torch, lighting the way I am the keeper of the flame, soldier of balance I am a guardian of balance I am a Gray Jedi." Hmm. Balance to the force? Why does that sound familiar? Something something prequels, something something Anakin Sykwalker, something something destiny. Qui-Gonn used Anakin as the tool of bringing true balance to the force, but Palpatine corrupted Anakin too much. He manipulated his fear of losing his family so much that even Mace Windu, a Grey Jedi, couldn't stop him. Mace Windu is the reason why Grievous was a chunk of spare parts BTW, that's not what his species looks like. He's basically the Kaleesh equivalent to Darth Vader. Nope, I think that the big bad Sith Lord is Mara Jade Skywalker. And Luke is so torn at the thought of killing his wife he allows the Empire to flourish again because of it. Just like his father did in the prequels.

Everyone's bitching about how bad and wrong this theory is. Meanwhile I'm just wishing it actually happened.

Maybe Luke is a gray Jedi?

Man old 2015 game/film theory with the music the voice and the editing have a lot of nostalgia.

"How many times have we seen Yoda wrong? I can think of two instances: 1. He was wrong about Ashoka Tano's trial 2. Wrong about Emperor Palpatine

On one hand, I can't think of old Luke as anything other than what he is in the extended universe On the other hand, Mark Hamill *kills* it as a villain

What about the alternate ending where Luke takes of Vader’s helmet and puts it on and says “now I am Vader”

Man, looking back on how this latest trilogy has played out, I gotta say Matt's theories would have made for way better stories than what we got!

Are you not aware of the Jar Jar sith theory, MatPat?

Knock knock Whose there Well definitely not Han Solo

4:56 At this point, the seed for the "Jedi are Evil" two part theory was planted!

This theory might have been wrong, but it proves that Luke's confrontation with Ben Solo in his hut during the flashbacks of The Last Jedi was completely in character and Rian Johnson really understands Star Wars. You can't call this theory a good idea and then say there's no way Luke would have drawn his lightsaber on his nephew. Either has has darkness in him still after Episode VI or he doesn't. And it makes so much more thematic sense given all the evidence presented in this video that he did

I have a theory At the start Stat Wars Ep 8, Rey and Luke star at each other and Rey says "so, this is the famous Luke Skywalker. Where have you been all this time" Luke responds with "It's complicated, the inner turmoil ive faced is something no one should have to go through" Rey then touches him and tells him "It'll be alright" They then proceed to fuck in all sorts of positions. BUT THAT'S JUST A THEORY..... A PORNO THEORY!

Sadly matpat I don't think your theory answers anything since Luke only has like 5 seconds

Wellll… this aged well

0:05 this is what it said: "It is an exiting time for film geeks. A new Star Wars is coming to theaters. Life once again has meaning as "The force awakens" nears its release Boy do I sure love me a good Star War. Imma Star War-ing fool.OH hey, do you guys want some , like, Reese's Mini's? How much smaller are they gonna make those things, anyway? There's like 80 different sizes of them peanut butter cups. OH CR*P, right, star TOURS. is this new one gonna have Yoda? No? Is Yoda dead? Right, he dead. But dude didn't ever the cool Jedi death like other people. He just kinda wussed out and keeled over in a dirty swamp. Yo Yoda das one weak death game you got going on there. Step up yo' game, brah! Whatever, the voice actor's still getting work on the Muppets show, so it's all good. Oh cr*p dude for this episode we had to watch all the freaking prequels again in order to make this episode. DEAR LORD Jar Jar! The worst... THE WORST!! Like, GEEZ, dude. Also, NO he is NOT a Sith lord. STOP IT! Stop with your silly theorizing! That is OUR job! And if anyones a Sith Lord, it's Luke! OOOOOOOHHH #SPOILERS!!" Edit: and one more short paragraph oops

You know the sad part is that we may not even find this out for sure in the first movie, they may keep it for a secret twist to keep people thinking even until the 2nd or 3rd movie. I can see it now: "Don't you want to know what happened to Skywalker?" "they told me enough, they told me you killed him!" "No. I am Skywalker." "That's impossible!" "Search your feelings you know it to be true!" "NOOOOOO"

Just makes me want to say... BOY WERE THEY WRONG!!!

Man, Star Wars 22: Darth Luke Awakens is my favorite!

Amazing, Every word you just said was wrong -Luke

Well, I think Luke is more like Qui-Gon, a grey jedi, which don't have one real side, moe like a balance of both, since being a jedi is like being a stone, so a grey jedi has feelings, but is not compleately evil.

this theory could still be true, luke only appeared for 5 seconds and he didn't look happy to see Rey.

Matpat missed one thing, this is directed by JJ

Matpat: *talks about complicated math* Matpats teachers: We’ve taught you well

Nope Spoilers only who seen the movie open Han Solo dies and Luke is not seen for like a minute at least RIP HAN SOLO

no jar jar is evil hes the sith lord

That would have been a better story than the one we got in The Last Jedi.

What?! (Well meesa Darth jar jar and yousa big doo-doo dis time)

I'm sad now realizing what could have been😔

best part of the movie the 4 seconds of luke ":|"

MatPat “Emperor Palpatine’s soul is reborn into a clone, *laughs *yeah seriously!” Me: 🤯

I love how the subtitles at the beginning say “Non-copyrighted Star Wars Theme”

MatPat did you hear the theory on Jar Jar Binks being a sith force user?

Great video once again and great collaborating with you guys!

who else is watching this after watching rise of skywalker?

Thought I would watch the first video I watched of matpat. I’m gonna miss him. Have a happy retirement matpat. You deserve a break.

also good to pint out is that after both luke and anakin state 'don't underestimate my power' they both get owned.

What do Star Wars fans call themselves? "Right." We call ourselves "right."

Am I the only one who read the opening credits it’s hilarious 😂

He had about as much screen time as Tarkin in ep3

if you havent seen the movie, I know someone who dies!!!! a storm trooper lol

You're really good at making stories, not theories.

I enjoy seeing the absurdity of old theories 😂

I saw the preview of this video and the intro subtitles were “Non copyrighted Star Wars theme song” I’m so proud MatPat

Another thing to add: Luke said "Be careful not to underestimate my power." In Revenge of the Sith, Anakin says "You underestimate my power."

I think he's gonna be a Grey Jedi, like everyone will be lead to think he's turned to the Dark Side when, SURPRISE!! He's found the 3rd alternative nobody was expecting, he's found true balance by not siding with either

Hey I liked the prequel trilogy not as much as the original trilogy but it was still pretty good

I love the pre-sequels so much and they always get put down

Sith wins, no question. 17 days people.

There is no ignorance There is KNAWLEDGEEE INB4 Luke is tai Lopez

Watching this on the future, this had more potential than what they actually did. Trying to take him down, realizing he's not a sith, but just hates everyone, could be neat.

How is it that Lucas was such a punk and a sell-out? Toys? How come he would never say out loud that the Jedi are terrorists. I totally saw it coming that Darth Vader was Luke's father, ever since he said that "Your father wanted you to have this, but it's something that your Uncle would never allow."

I want a dark luke so bad. I would sacrifice my soul to Jar Jar Binks for it!

Take a chill pill everyone! I get it, he was wrong, but that's why it was a theory since it wasn't confirmed as the answer. He never said that he was 100% sure Luke was with the dark side, he was just trying to predict how Episode VII could've shocked us all.

...... Just thinking at one point this was believed -_-

I love what MatPat has on the screen when the "film background info" is rolling!

Why can't obi wan email pictures to people? Because attachments are forbidden