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Film Theory: Is Thor STRONGER Than The Hulk? (Thor: Ragnarok) 

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THOR: RAGNAROK is hitting theaters, giving us another epic Marvel movie that features our favorite heroes: The Avengers. This means The Hulk and Thor will yet again be featured in the same movie, giving us another chance to watch in awe as they enact astounding feats of strength. So far, Marvel hasn’t given a straight answer as to which one of these ultra-powerful heroes has the most brawn, even though they’ve gone head-to-head multiple times in the movies and comics. But that ends today, Loyal Theorists! With the power of math, science, and research, I will reveal which Avenger is strongest!
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@katievogt3036
@katievogt3036 6 лет назад
6:50 I DIED!!! (My fat cats name is Gandalf, we tried to put him on a diet but in revenge he pooped on our pillows)
@TheTheorizer
@TheTheorizer 6 лет назад
BWHAAHAHAH ha
@TheTheorizer
@TheTheorizer 6 лет назад
im a stoopidity
@NoU-jc4kq
@NoU-jc4kq 6 лет назад
me and my pets HAHA COUGH COUGH HAHAHAHAA
@Bodge18
@Bodge18 6 лет назад
When you're pinned and still only get 9 likes
@DekuOfPower
@DekuOfPower 6 лет назад
YOU! SHALL NOT! LIFT!
@haadnaqvi1323
@haadnaqvi1323 6 лет назад
...Did you just compare Hulk's max deadlift to Thor's grip crush?
@suckle
@suckle 6 лет назад
thats the same thing i was thinking. add in the Hulk is trying to kill everyone and thor is trying not to hurt him
@vincentcascio4756
@vincentcascio4756 6 лет назад
These 2 right here know what’s up
@juganous2267
@juganous2267 6 лет назад
yeah thats what i was going to say so im just going to up vote yours
@MadMrCrazy
@MadMrCrazy 6 лет назад
Haad Naqvi it's probably worth pointing out as well that a max amount of force needed to crush a gauntlet isn't necessarily the amount of force used.
@martincarranza114
@martincarranza114 6 лет назад
Thank you!! I was thinking the same thing lol hope he gets to see your comment!
@AnoNYmous-bz2ef
@AnoNYmous-bz2ef 4 года назад
1:39 "Who would win in a fight?" Stan Lee is still right though. He wasn't asked who is stronger, just who would win a fight.
@rwoosh2447
@rwoosh2447 4 года назад
Ano N. Ymous 2:12
@marshyhmr7766
@marshyhmr7766 3 года назад
The video is about who is physically stronger, dummy
@dif4797
@dif4797 3 года назад
@@marshyhmr7766 The comment is about Stan Lee dummy
@twhiteofrd_1102
@twhiteofrd_1102 3 года назад
This is what I was about to comment
@sangkim6556
@sangkim6556 3 года назад
@@rwoosh2447 matpat said Stan Lee was wrong, but mat was talking about pure strength, while Stan was talking about who would win in a fight
@ainzulgone492
@ainzulgone492 3 года назад
He compared arm and leg strength without thinking about the fact, that the legs are several times stronger than the arms. With this, Thor's grip strength gets easily bigger than Hulk's leg strength.
@denisdaily6055
@denisdaily6055 2 года назад
12:21
@itachi4634
@itachi4634 2 года назад
10:45
@temper1287
@temper1287 2 года назад
10:45
@gojirarex5138
@gojirarex5138 2 года назад
@@temper1287 why are you saying time
@stealthven2352
@stealthven2352 2 года назад
it‘s two times but yes
@TheRagdollrejects
@TheRagdollrejects 3 года назад
So hulks entire body strength can output marginally more force than Thor’s hand... I’m not sure that proves the point.
@temper1287
@temper1287 2 года назад
10:45
@CrimpyDip
@CrimpyDip 2 года назад
@@temper1287 Didn't have his powers, just a regular man, plus even if it wasn't because of that, the ground has more mass than the ship. *facepalm
@zacharycarrier2890
@zacharycarrier2890 2 года назад
@@CrimpyDip right? Like does matpat even watch the movies lol
@axellindolsson1020
@axellindolsson1020 Год назад
@@CrimpyDip mjolnir is not the source of his powers dude
@gyohoho2878
@gyohoho2878 Год назад
@@axellindolsson1020 Odin took away his powers until he was worthy dude
@asianpersuasian3758
@asianpersuasian3758 4 года назад
I want a redo on this theory. You know since you compared deadlifting to grip strength...
@explosivedolphinz8710
@explosivedolphinz8710 4 года назад
7 w 7 in marvel agents of shield (the TV show tied with the story of the MCU) hulk left a giant fist sized indent in a pure vibranium wall. That was with one hand. Demolished the iron grip feat entirely
@Jader_OnWii
@Jader_OnWii 4 года назад
Yeah ik matpat compared hulks MAX RAGE deadlift to Thor’s single hand grip strength like wtf
@excccx2154
@excccx2154 4 года назад
Explosive Dolphinz which episode
@chubswubsbubs6311
@chubswubsbubs6311 4 года назад
How do they make vibranium things if vibranium is so hard to bend and cut
@Jader_OnWii
@Jader_OnWii 4 года назад
Benjamin Rigdeway they cut vibranium with vibranium like how you have to cut diamond with diamond
@adriannoris
@adriannoris 5 лет назад
"Thor can wield Mjolnir while nobody else can" 2019 me : Pfft.
@draytonmoore5644
@draytonmoore5644 4 года назад
I know everybody can wield the thing ( captain America, hella , vision )
@ramonnapolano6308
@ramonnapolano6308 4 года назад
Drayton Moore Hella technically wasn't able to lift it. she stopped it in his flying path and shattered it
@kosakukawajiri16
@kosakukawajiri16 4 года назад
First my Friend: •Vision isn’t technically a human •Hela didn’t lift Mjlnor , she stopped it in its path
@DrHeavenly
@DrHeavenly 4 года назад
@@dmstudioX keep in mind hela can't be worthy anymore after odin's rules for the hammer
@jcanimations92
@jcanimations92 4 года назад
Odin died.....so no enchantment
@codeorangefilms3674
@codeorangefilms3674 3 года назад
Matpat: Who is physically stronger, not who would win in a fight. So let's look at their fights and who's won more.
@Helloiamraymond
@Helloiamraymond 2 года назад
I just have a problem with MatPat saying because Hulk is physically stronger that means Stan Lee has to be wrong.
@PapaBear_Gaming
@PapaBear_Gaming Год назад
@@Helloiamraymond as many folks mentioned, he's also comparing different types of muscles and saying the strengths compare across perfectly
@floop1108
@floop1108 3 года назад
I just realises that at 10:20 MatPat shows a list of people who are worthy of lifting Thor's hammer, and Steve Rogers is on it (followed by "maybe"). Well that aged well.
@fantazticcapsfan5208
@fantazticcapsfan5208 2 года назад
Bruh
@Theskafan
@Theskafan 6 лет назад
You proved hulk's max PR for deadlift is Thor's firmest handshake.
@lillevi444
@lillevi444 6 лет назад
JAGER MAIN thats what I was thinking 😂
@RiccardoF
@RiccardoF 6 лет назад
My foot can strike harder than my hand
@stanbroadman8348
@stanbroadman8348 6 лет назад
He did scale in the side of the hand vs the size of hulk i believe as it was a test of strength not power.
@gjjk84
@gjjk84 6 лет назад
riccardovamos so an Thor's.
@firempire229
@firempire229 6 лет назад
Kollector that's exactly what I thought
@TheAarongauntt
@TheAarongauntt 4 года назад
That awkward moment when you compare grip strength to deadlift strength and assume it's the same thing
@Tech-cy9yo
@Tech-cy9yo 4 года назад
fax lmao
@joshrichey72
@joshrichey72 4 года назад
That awkward moment when you forget he talked about Thor trying to dead lift the hammer and the ground did not budge.... Also if it wasn't for "Sparkle Fingers" Thor would have lost the fight in Ragnarock. Just saying.
@zacariasnelson5753
@zacariasnelson5753 4 года назад
That awkward moment when you forget Thor got his powers taken away because he was unworthy throughout, like, half of the movie so he was just another schmuck trying to pick it up without his super strength because it wasn't there because it was taken away. By Odin. In the beginning of the movie. The whole point of the movie
@elmoisacocainaddict557
@elmoisacocainaddict557 4 года назад
Joshua Richey those are his powers stupid hulk gets angry Thor has thunder
@emilio_who
@emilio_who 4 года назад
Tru
@adogwhoapparentlyknowshowt4391
@adogwhoapparentlyknowshowt4391 3 года назад
Literally comparing hulk using every muscle in his body to lift the hammer vs Thor's hand
@charlesdarwin1564
@charlesdarwin1564 2 года назад
@@temper1287 he was a regular person at that point
@Grandflea02
@Grandflea02 3 года назад
I can deadlift more weight than eddie hall can exhert through gripping. Thus, I am stronger than him.
@temper1287
@temper1287 2 года назад
10:45
@devibruin9061
@devibruin9061 2 года назад
@@temper1287 he didn’t have his powers in that scene
@samjohnson4165
@samjohnson4165 5 лет назад
10:47 the reason that Thor’s feet didn’t sink in to the ground is because when he was banished to Earth he lost his powers and strength which is also why he had a harder time beating up the guards to get to Mjølnir
@MAC-jn3fd
@MAC-jn3fd 5 лет назад
Sam Johnson Did sink or didn’t
@The_Deztro
@The_Deztro 5 лет назад
Yeah but hulk was also mortal so yeah
@captainobvious7441
@captainobvious7441 5 лет назад
@@The_Deztro yes the Hulk is mortal but he still has strength the normal person couldn't dream of having meanwhile when thor was trying to get to mjolnir he was stripped of all his power making him just some dude you'd see walking down the street
@zmawells
@zmawells 5 лет назад
The Destro As they said in the video, and in the movie, Thor -and the rest of the Asgardians- are intact mortals, with just a higher lifespan. We are talking about Thor with his abilities. But they were completely stripped when deemed unworthy.
@samjohnson4165
@samjohnson4165 5 лет назад
@TheTwistedTempo Thanks, I meant to say didn’t 👍🏻
@livingdecimus4398
@livingdecimus4398 6 лет назад
Matpat seriously? When you did the strength calculations you didn't take into account that legs are on average stronger than arms and thor was only using the strength of his fingers to crush Iron mans armor
@joshualamm3621
@joshualamm3621 6 лет назад
Brock Ross Today I learned Thor's hand muscles are nearly as strong as Hulk's leg muscles
@rorrim0
@rorrim0 6 лет назад
Joshua Lamm I know out of all the people who've had read this reply at least one wants to make a masturbation joke.
@yoshiguy123
@yoshiguy123 6 лет назад
When you wrote that comment did you take into account the force was coming from hulks arms not his legs?
@joshualamm3621
@joshualamm3621 6 лет назад
Both arms and legs from the looks of it. Deadlifted himself into the ground. Just having some fun though. I was thoroughly entertained by the video, which is the point.
@jimmilton0765
@jimmilton0765 3 года назад
3:37 he said that to make a bluff to hulk who was possessed by an asgardian which made him more stronger than he regularly is and literally blasted him into space saying "DID YOU NOW"
@typeouetco1626
@typeouetco1626 2 года назад
I'm pretty sure it wasn't a bluff, he really just wanted to throw this line
@mattgilliam
@mattgilliam 3 года назад
You should redo this theory now that we have some moments in endgame to help show some true potential of thor's strength. Like when he restarted the neutron star forge of Nidavellir. I think that it would be cool to look at the physics of this scene to see just how strong you'd have to be to even come close to this feat of strength.
@dragoontime
@dragoontime 3 года назад
Would be a cool video, but come on hulk stomps.
@vatsalsrivastav5195
@vatsalsrivastav5195 2 года назад
@@dragoontime not MCU Hulk. In comics Hulk is a beast but in MCU Hulk is very very weak.
@sleepykunderkat8660
@sleepykunderkat8660 5 лет назад
I feel like matpat should come back and redo this vid after infinity wars and especially because comparing a deadlift and a grip strength are 2 extremely different muscle groups
@joaquincordova8508
@joaquincordova8508 6 лет назад
You need to consider the fact that Hulk had his whole body to use, not only his feet, as you move the leg muscles as well when trying to lift something properly.Thor only used SOME hand muscles, but mainly the thumb, which operates separately from the arm when squeezing . I dont know you, but to me, the ratio of strength to size of muscle is in Thor's favour.
@cieliona
@cieliona 6 лет назад
That's what I was thinking. To add on, if Thor's hand can deal almost the same amount of strength as Hulk's entire body, then wouldn't Thor technically be stronger? Because, as you stated, he only used some of his hand muscles
@qwopandminecraft
@qwopandminecraft 6 лет назад
Also he used his left hand which he doesn't even wield his hammer in hardly ever. Thor is seemingly right handed but dealt the damage with his left hand.
@carryoutgull5822
@carryoutgull5822 6 лет назад
I completely agree with this. Also, im surprised mat didnt notice this, i mean it is fairly obvious near the end of this video. Surely he should of made the link when he was researching and creating the script but what do i know.
@greenmax360
@greenmax360 6 лет назад
the point of the comment isnt necesairily to prove him wrong, no one is arguing the research he did. The point of these videos, as he has mentioned before, is to get people thinking. So people discussing a flaw in some of his evidence, or something he just happened to overlook, is what he is wanting.
@willis936
@willis936 6 лет назад
Jacob Benjudah It's fine to try but I don't like the authoritative tone of the conclusions. Any proper person of science is careful in what they say.
@jjjlove2260
@jjjlove2260 2 года назад
Hulk was always one of my top favorite marvel superheroes ever since I was a kid. I was really disappointed to see that the MCU didn't make more use of him considering that he's such an immensely powerful force.
@dexterjohn6816
@dexterjohn6816 3 года назад
Mat pat:Hulk is stronger Infinity war: I gonna put some dirt in ur eye....
@KittensPurple
@KittensPurple 6 лет назад
Matpat,that was a great video, BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT GASTON FROM BEAUTY AND THE BEAST! HOW DOES HE EAT FIVE DOZEN EGGS A DAY AND WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO A PERSON.... HE EATS 60 EGGS EACH DAY.... PLEASE MAKE A THEORY ABOUT THIS.... THE WORLD MUST KNOW
@GamerBrenden
@GamerBrenden 6 лет назад
Jenelle YEAH,WE NEED ANSWERS GOD DAMMIT!!!
@diggy_the_first
@diggy_the_first 6 лет назад
it's probably doable. small eggs.
@pokerraper1
@pokerraper1 6 лет назад
I got the answer! HE DOESN'T.
@tobaccotim6763
@tobaccotim6763 6 лет назад
even with small eggs, that mans cholestoral is probably enough to kill LOL
@obsidiandawn9824
@obsidiandawn9824 6 лет назад
Best comment.
@whatever.3442
@whatever.3442 4 года назад
thor vs hulk thor : beats hulk hulk : u cant do anything without hammer thor : u cant do anything without gamma
@geekyluna1909
@geekyluna1909 4 года назад
he is still one of the leading scientists...
@extremealier4143
@extremealier4143 4 года назад
Wrong (Thor's hammer is basically an equipment and gamma is something that Made hulk. There's a difference)
@christinapalanca246
@christinapalanca246 4 года назад
True that is so true
@extremealier4143
@extremealier4143 4 года назад
@Jivantronic what difference does it make?
@itz_ya_boi_isaiah331
@itz_ya_boi_isaiah331 4 года назад
@Jivantronic it is like a split personality for him once he gets angry hulk takes over
@joshuahunt3032
@joshuahunt3032 3 года назад
8:33 Either Jarvis is understating the power overload slightly because he uses a British voice setting, or because that extra 75% doesn’t need to be stated when a 400% charge exists already.
@TheBluePhoenix008
@TheBluePhoenix008 3 года назад
I'll pretty sure my legs output more force than my hands.
@FireMikeMC
@FireMikeMC 4 года назад
Well when Thor Crushes Iron mans Suit, Thor doesn't even break a sweat. Compared to Hulk, who where really pushing himself..
@vincentschwass49
@vincentschwass49 4 года назад
Wait that's true
@grqfes
@grqfes 4 года назад
and thats thors non dominant hand grip crushing vs full body muscle deadlifting
@pjdianalan7934
@pjdianalan7934 3 года назад
@@vincentschwass49 yes.
@ThePatrioticScotsman
@ThePatrioticScotsman 3 года назад
Exactly what I was thinking
@jacobjean5656
@jacobjean5656 3 года назад
Hulk can do the same thing why do you think iron man made the hulk buster and he was only pushing himself because it literally won't move an inch of unworthy.
@Cbev1994
@Cbev1994 6 лет назад
No infinity war spoilers but we may need to redo this discussion now lol Thor really flexed this time around
@mega_jamzzz
@mega_jamzzz 6 лет назад
Cbev1994 yea this theory really needs to be redone (spoilers) because hulk got destroyed by thanos
@MentalAsEver
@MentalAsEver 6 лет назад
Aaaaand Thor has a super cool new hammer :/
@8911145533
@8911145533 6 лет назад
aaaaaand Banner even admits that Veronica was enough to kick the shit out of the Hulk (aka the green asshole)
@Gummi-zx6kf
@Gummi-zx6kf 6 лет назад
ikr
@jaisontaliaferro1571
@jaisontaliaferro1571 6 лет назад
I luv hulk, but he pissed me off with his scared ass in infinity war
@cathiaaskew1106
@cathiaaskew1106 4 года назад
It made me sad when I heard Stan from that interview. :(
@spectrability4217
@spectrability4217 Год назад
at one point in the comics, hulk punched time itself and shook the multiverse with a clap
@chrisgarciacallies4490
@chrisgarciacallies4490 5 лет назад
Hulk: *deadlifts 3768000 pounds* Thor: *applies almost the same amount of force with his fingers*
@daanvanrijn4117
@daanvanrijn4117 4 года назад
Exactly, Hulk used his legs, arms, feet, and torso. He's no match for the mighty Thor.
@fabiocamahco155
@fabiocamahco155 4 года назад
Either way thor beats hulk in ragnarok without his hammer
@RoronoaZoro-rx5hd
@RoronoaZoro-rx5hd 4 года назад
No you are rong
@user-ju5rt6ph1o
@user-ju5rt6ph1o 4 года назад
@@fabiocamahco155 Technically, Thor was about to completely decimate Hulk without his hammer, but then got screwed over by the thing on his neck, but our point still stands. Plus the while comparing thors finger strength with hulks deadlift. Deadlift=entire body fingers=fingers
@minyu613
@minyu613 4 года назад
Also that comic which Thor says you know I could never beat you. Read it. Thor wins.
@Spiffa
@Spiffa 6 лет назад
That last point is ridiculous your leg strength is more than your arm strengh
@PremonitionGamingVid
@PremonitionGamingVid 6 лет назад
Usually by about double, if not 1.5x
@SavvageCabbage
@SavvageCabbage 6 лет назад
But he's using his arms to lift the hammer and applying the force like a lever to himself down to his feet pushing it down.
@orpheusmuse3786
@orpheusmuse3786 6 лет назад
It’s not even arm strength, it’s grip strength, as in the strength of the tendons in one’s fingers because he’s not punching the gauntlet, he’s literally squeezing it.
@gungho2304
@gungho2304 6 лет назад
its fun watching messages of people that have no idea what they are talking about... trust me a foot is stronger than a hand but in terms of the feats they were performing it turns out to be about equal
@orpheusmuse3786
@orpheusmuse3786 6 лет назад
Greeny how?
@samlionb
@samlionb 4 года назад
6:21 Omg why mat i litterally spit my water out
@gyzardo3648
@gyzardo3648 3 года назад
It’s so funny I literally laughed out loud
@nedgalac7583
@nedgalac7583 4 года назад
I don't think MatPat compared the 2 correctly. When the topic of strongest Avenger rolls around I think what they mean is who has more destructive force behind their attacks, not who can lift more. Those 2 things are completely different. Just because I can lift 60 tons it doesn't mean I can punch with that force.
@dragonic22
@dragonic22 4 года назад
Film Theory: Even WITH the hammer, Hulk can beat Thor Thor: Hold my Stormbreaker
@starlightseason1462
@starlightseason1462 4 года назад
General Tozen Haha move aside Mjolnir, Stormbreaker is in the house!
@4.4anthonyseeraj66
@4.4anthonyseeraj66 4 года назад
Storm braker does not have the curse oden put on it Because oden is dead when it was made
@dragonic22
@dragonic22 4 года назад
Anthony Seeraj I’m not following...
@4.4anthonyseeraj66
@4.4anthonyseeraj66 4 года назад
@@dragonic22 oden put the curse or rule on milnier but the rule or curse was not put on storm braker just saying didn't mean anything by it
@witherthegamer9718
@witherthegamer9718 4 года назад
@@4.4anthonyseeraj66 bro nobody needs your help your Grammer sucks
@ericr2617
@ericr2617 6 лет назад
But that was only Thor's grip strength with his off hand. Hulk was doing a full on dead lift. That means that Thor has about 700,000 LBS of strength less than Hulk using ONLY his left hand compared to Hulk who was using his whole body. Thor's grip strength is almost as strong as the Hulk's max dead lift. Thor is way stronger
@markkavanagh9635
@markkavanagh9635 6 лет назад
I noticed that too... seems like a simple oversight by MatPat
@ronakvanaff3131
@ronakvanaff3131 6 лет назад
I agree as well, dead lift vs manly handshake grip seems obvious who's the winner
@donaob4145
@donaob4145 6 лет назад
This is really just the same thing everyone else is saying.....
@Prophet173
@Prophet173 6 лет назад
Came here to say this
@timothyisidro569
@timothyisidro569 6 лет назад
Yeah that’s what I was thinking
@confuciusisconfusing
@confuciusisconfusing 3 года назад
10:21 stop and see the list.....predicted the endgame!!
@ronaldhasagun7585
@ronaldhasagun7585 2 года назад
Seeing this theory after watching ragnorock is just
@SherbertHusky
@SherbertHusky 6 лет назад
Well Thor crushed Iron Mans gauntlet with one hand and the hulk was using at least both his arms and his back. So Thor’s two arms must be stronger. In the scene where Thor is trying to lift the hammer while he is unworthy Thor does not have his powers so he has only human levels of strength.
@stevensanchez1192
@stevensanchez1192 6 лет назад
TheSkyHadAWeegee Not mention that hands are weaker than legs, Thor's legs must be hella strong
@official.izanami
@official.izanami 6 лет назад
The Film Theorists Is the big surprise that you're a scam account, or that I just reported you?
@jackiechan715
@jackiechan715 6 лет назад
As I told another comment, we aren't calculating his arms or back, only his legs. The amount of force he's using to smash his feet into the ground is not affected by the amount of force he's exerting with his arms or back.
@stevensanchez1192
@stevensanchez1192 6 лет назад
Shadow S. Korosu That's not scientific at all
@izcondoralexander
@izcondoralexander 6 лет назад
Thor uses mjolnir to focus his power, but thor without his hammer is still damn strong plus can summon thunder. He beat up hulk without problem.
@adamhubbard606
@adamhubbard606 5 лет назад
Thor was about to win in Thor Ragnarok without mjölnir
@fast.food.ninjalarry954
@fast.food.ninjalarry954 5 лет назад
This is about the strongest not the best warrior !!!
@Mustmustik
@Mustmustik 5 лет назад
And hulk wasn’t even that angry
@miraclemittens1099
@miraclemittens1099 5 лет назад
That was because of lightning, not strenght
@brysondeardorff8872
@brysondeardorff8872 5 лет назад
Either way Thor is stronger
@spideyshady4739
@spideyshady4739 5 лет назад
@@Mustmustik How can he not be angry when thor did a lightning punch into his face
@melindapop8961
@melindapop8961 2 года назад
He definently changed his answer after the movie
@morgancarter5788
@morgancarter5788 3 года назад
The reason he did not dent the floor is because MJOLNIR. Gives him his strength
@eli3998
@eli3998 3 года назад
No he didn't dent the floor cuz he was a human then and only when mjolir came back to him did he get back his good powers
@yongjieng5111
@yongjieng5111 6 лет назад
Wait what? Why is the conclusion drawn so unfairly to thor? Why are we comparing what essentially is a deadlift ( how hulk generated the force) vs a squeeze. I'm fairly sure even people who don't workout knows or at least can imagine that deadlift is the strongest lift that humans can perform with weights. You're basically using your most powerful muscle groups in that movement namely your glutes, hamstrings and lower back. How is that remotely comparable to more delicate muscles of the forearms? If anything, assuming that the skeletomuscular construct of both hulk and thor complies with that of humans in terms of force output/ cross-section area of muscle (proportionate to their respective overall sizes) also accounting for joint structure involved in force production then Thor must be stronger than hulk based on the numbers matt postulated. Larger muscles in simpler joints generate forces much greater than smaller muscles in more complex joints, so if Thor can generate forces so relatively lesser with a squeeze than hulk can with his lower back and posterior muscles along his legs then it follows that thor would be able to generate much more force under the same movement.
@richardrichard4408
@richardrichard4408 6 лет назад
Hulk pulled something of with 4.1 sextillion. Thor with plus three zero's with the same muscles
@Vorchitect
@Vorchitect 6 лет назад
Yong Jie Ng Yes, EXACTLY!! There's also him saying that blackholes are invisible, and that Sister Location came before the Bite of '83 (using evidence that clearly stated that it came AFTERm) All of these things are making me quickly lose respect for his findings. He's GREAT at doing research and finding evidence, and also doing some conplex math here and there. However, he is terrible at drawing conclusions, as he ignores or disregards clear evidence. I mainly watch his videos for the details he finds, not really the conclusions he makes.
@biggybigman
@biggybigman 6 лет назад
But at that point Thor didn't have his any of his Asgardian strength. He was comparable to an above average human in strength, as per his fight with the shield agents. Plus he crushed Iron-man's gauntlet with hardly any effort while hulk was putting incredible effort into lift the hammer.
@Raees.S
@Raees.S 6 лет назад
And Thors powers had been taken away from him at that point.
@juan-jacquesfourie9590
@juan-jacquesfourie9590 6 лет назад
Thank you! At least someone talking a bit of sense!
@benjaminvasey8441
@benjaminvasey8441 6 лет назад
Hulk was lifting the hammer with all his might. Using his arms, legs, back etc. Thor was only using a single hand. Yes it was 300,000 newtons less, but that's comparing Thor's grip strength, to Hulk's dead lift
@griffinpiercer
@griffinpiercer 6 лет назад
Exactly what I was thinking
@sillymcwilly4866
@sillymcwilly4866 6 лет назад
Thor was also depowered to normal human strength at that point too so it was literally a normal human trying to lift the hammer.
@marynabertnyk609
@marynabertnyk609 5 лет назад
Benjamin Vasey THANK YOU even with one hand it didn't even look like he was trying Plus the strength of the iron man suit is probably WAY more than just 4 times stronger than steel
@simeonharden6488
@simeonharden6488 5 лет назад
Y'all do know Thor lifting the hammer has nothing to do with strength there is a enchantment on the hammer that only allow worthy to lift it Captain America picked it up Thor girlfriend as long as your worthy you can pick it up fine hulk is unworthy but he picked it up with sheer strength which he shouldnt be able too
@undergravitydownforce714
@undergravitydownforce714 5 лет назад
You can most certainly apply a lot greater force when dead lifting compared to a hand strength, so how on earth didn't mattpatt think of that? Also I haven't seen infinity war so don't leave a reply that uses info from it please
@davidlove3293
@davidlove3293 2 года назад
Man this is a great video but after learning Norse mythology it’s so hard to watch haha
@user-th5pv2wi4q
@user-th5pv2wi4q 2 года назад
captain marvel: hold my eye ball
@vincentkeiperiv2192
@vincentkeiperiv2192 6 лет назад
I think I found a problem with your theory. Your ending conclusion was based on the force one of Hulk's feet produced, but when lifting Mjolnir Hulk was using his entire body to try and pick up the hammer. The force he produces when trying to pick up Mjolnir would then be from his entire body. When you compare that to Thor using one hand to crush Tony's suit it can be seen that Thor can produce 3,456,000 pounds of force WITH ONE HAND, not even both of his arms. If I am missing something could somebody please point that out, but looking at it this way makes it seem as though Thor is much strong. P.S. love the show and have been watching for a really long time. Keep it up it brightens my day every time I see that you guys uploaded something.
@ItsVxctor
@ItsVxctor 6 лет назад
Vincent Keiper IV the hammer is spelled for thor to pick it up.
@Felix-gm9im
@Felix-gm9im 6 лет назад
Vincent Keiper IV You're missing a big point fam. In movies, hulk is seen ripping through industrial material, as well as many of iron man's suits and shit just as easily as Thor. Not to mention, also in the movies and In the comics, iron man's suits are not only able to be disintegrated by a hand, but also by a bullet (which in this case would be weaker by A HIGH amount), a punch from captain America (who is human with peak human performance, so imagine Batman levels of strength), a missile, and many other things. The alloy is obviously weaker than he stated, also it's factually flawed because he compared the alloy to a real life counterpart, which wouldn't technically be a counterpart at all due to the fact that the fictional plot allows this metal to potentially be weaker than stated. A real life source doesn't always apply 100% to a fictional source. In real life. There's more to this but I don't feel like going too in depth.
@official.izanami
@official.izanami 6 лет назад
The Film Theorists Fucking stop already.
@petsan97
@petsan97 6 лет назад
It's weird that so many seem to forget it since he even showed it in the video, but comparing what Hulk did to the Hulkbuster, an armor specifically made to beat him, makes Thor's grip strenght look cute by comparison.
@kelvyiturralde8111
@kelvyiturralde8111 6 лет назад
Did you just say that Captain America is just a human at peak strength? Captain America is the Super Soldier - he has been seen flipping trucks and lifting small cars.
@bennettparker4579
@bennettparker4579 6 лет назад
I feel as though the fact of what muscles are used has been wrongfully overlooked. You cannot simply compare the force that they exert in these feats. Thor was able to exert that much force with only the muscles involved in closing his hand, as opposed to the muscles used by the Hulk in an attempt to lift the hammer. The Hulk used his upper body and core, which are generally significantly stronger than the muscles in one's hand and wrist. tl:dr The comparison used to draw the conclusion cannot be made due to the difference in muscles used.
@markhackett2302
@markhackett2302 6 лет назад
If your fingers were broken, could you lift anything, despite the fct your legs are still fine? No. Because if you can't put enough force into the grip to maintain hold, your fingers slip. The limit on your lifting power is the strength of your grip, not the strength of your legs.
@frog6948
@frog6948 6 лет назад
Bennett Parker Agreed
@explicit6400
@explicit6400 6 лет назад
Apples are not oranges
@frog6948
@frog6948 6 лет назад
FafaGaming well duh
@kover975
@kover975 6 лет назад
Good point, didn't think about that. I also thought that he overlooked the fact that, while we know hulk is using all his force to lift the hammer (as he fails), Thor seems to crush Iron-man's gauntlets pretty easily, so there's nothing saying that's the peak of his strength. Also, with respect to thor trying to lift the hammer, I think matpat forgot that thor was basically turned into a (granted, very strong and tough) human until he became worth again (as shown by the fact that the big bouncer looking dude was more or less able to go toe-to-toe with him)
@sharkt9877
@sharkt9877 3 года назад
5:00 it was more then just a plate. The planet it self was going to be destroyed. Like split apart.
@wongtonnoodles2288
@wongtonnoodles2288 6 лет назад
Surtur: Ah , Thor , Son Of Odin Thor : Surtur , Son of a Bitch
@hugemango2011
@hugemango2011 6 лет назад
LOL
@nutragamer9080
@nutragamer9080 6 лет назад
Best opening scene ever... had me crying
@jdr8223
@jdr8223 6 лет назад
true lol
@geekmuscle657
@geekmuscle657 6 лет назад
Hold on give me a minute. Let me swing back around
@michelleloveschuwu466
@michelleloveschuwu466 6 лет назад
Lightning Electric LMFAOOOOO🤣🤣
@znkrd
@znkrd 5 лет назад
Who would you Believe? MatPat Or Stan Lee the creator of Thor in marvel
@Metrion77
@Metrion77 5 лет назад
To be fair, Stan Lee only said Thor could beat hulk in a fight.
@eppufart2232
@eppufart2232 5 лет назад
Stan Lee
@sporf_sporf
@sporf_sporf 5 лет назад
@@Metrion77 THIS. Stan didn't say Thor was stronger, just that Thor would win. Thor is a warrior born, Hulk is raging, and sometimes near mindless engine of destruction.
@joh172
@joh172 5 лет назад
@@Metrion77 Thor would have won a fight against hulk in ragnarok but he got shocked
@williamirwin4675
@williamirwin4675 5 лет назад
I would believe matpat
@bexyPTX
@bexyPTX 3 года назад
Fun watching old theories about movies I’ve seen
@blockmanintros
@blockmanintros Год назад
10:21 holy moly even film theory predicted it 2 years before it actually happening
@Ismail-kv3ex
@Ismail-kv3ex 4 года назад
You proved yourself wrong by comparing deadlifting to grip strength
@potatostomatoes4599
@potatostomatoes4599 4 года назад
Was just about to comment this, what a fucken idiot 😂
@aidansuxs
@aidansuxs 4 года назад
420 dakmemes stfu
@suppyboyson9400
@suppyboyson9400 4 года назад
@@potatostomatoes4599 You try to make a better video and not make mistakes.You can give constructive criticsm,but swearing at him without giving him any feedback is just stupid.
@potatostomatoes4599
@potatostomatoes4599 4 года назад
@@suppyboyson9400 calm down nancy, your not my mum you cant tell me what to do
@hannamouse1
@hannamouse1 4 года назад
and I assume that you've got 100% on every test you've ever taken? I'm just saying because you called matpat an idiot for making an error so unless you are an incredible genius you are being incredibly hypocritical.
@thestrangefishlikeentity9967
@thestrangefishlikeentity9967 6 лет назад
I'd say this theory has to be thought of a little more. Hulk put a lot of his effort into the floor cracking part, Thor didn't even break a sweat, much less a grimace, when crushing iron-mans arm.
@daboss640
@daboss640 6 лет назад
with nothing but some wrist and thumb muscles, it would take way more strength to crush iron man's arm
@dr.mamtaratti5547
@dr.mamtaratti5547 6 лет назад
Are you stupid. Hulk is nothing in front of Thor
@lillol4
@lillol4 6 лет назад
Well no it wasn't a mistake on the part of the video, because the video said the hammer itself was a mute point...
@baileyroute3671
@baileyroute3671 6 лет назад
Thor was doing a crushing motion and hulk was pushing. Thor had it easier
@DevTheBigManUno
@DevTheBigManUno 6 лет назад
naw man, once you get down to numbers w/ force needed it all levels out. Also the act of using the entire body as a sort of driver is far easier than the act of using your hand to crush something. Thus why you can crush say an Apply with your leg but not squeeze it apart.
@wolfhurricane897
@wolfhurricane897 4 года назад
The snakes name is pronounced Yore-Mun-Gone-Durr.
@kingspooky5400
@kingspooky5400 4 года назад
After he awakens his power hes MUCH, MUCH stronger
@oppositeofbatman
@oppositeofbatman 4 года назад
Actually when Thor lifted Jörmungandur the whole earth shook and the snake is actually holding the earth together so it doesn’t fall apart. In the same story he also fought an old lady who was actually pure old age but Thor only fell on one knee when the woman grabbed him. That means that not even age can destroy him, Thor is literally too strong for time.
@starlightseason1462
@starlightseason1462 4 года назад
Satan it’s just a mixture of both mortal and immortal I guess =_=|||
@sneakpeakmaster
@sneakpeakmaster 3 года назад
Don't forget that he also has his belt that doubles his alteady godlike strength. The hammer doesen't give him his strength.
@DemonMj
@DemonMj 2 года назад
Lol no, it's that when asguardians get older they become much stronger. Why do you think odin is such a powerhouse? He's super resistant to aging tho
@oppositeofbatman
@oppositeofbatman 2 года назад
@@DemonMj lol, no
@AmondoDazz
@AmondoDazz 2 года назад
Oh cool, thanks for the info Satan.
@kaelanmarriner2871
@kaelanmarriner2871 4 года назад
Who is watching in 2019 and almost cried hearing his voice again at 1:41 May he rest in peace - Stan ;(
@kyonnelettman6266
@kyonnelettman6266 4 года назад
Me,Rest in Peace Stan
@estebanmontoya5809
@estebanmontoya5809 4 года назад
May he rest in peace 😭
@NanamiZephyr
@NanamiZephyr 4 года назад
R.I.P. Stan
@starlightseason1462
@starlightseason1462 4 года назад
Kaelan Marriner 😭😭😭
@emanuel6693
@emanuel6693 4 года назад
Why would I cry I don’t even know him
@gamespotlive3673
@gamespotlive3673 3 года назад
The cat-lifting one is actually a real myth from norse mythos.
@lifeisabitch5749
@lifeisabitch5749 2 года назад
I was thinking the same think when I watched the movie thank you for resolving this confusion 👍👍
@MrThirtyH
@MrThirtyH 6 лет назад
Hulk digs his feet into concrete by putting his entire enraged muscular system to work. Thor outputs nearly the same amount of force with a single hand. So clearly, this means Thor is weaker since that particular number is smaller. Bang up job.
@didact-
@didact- 6 лет назад
MrThirtyH ikr
@Recklessvagabond636
@Recklessvagabond636 6 лет назад
The force that hulk put out isn't the total, but the force per foot. So double it.
@NealonHD
@NealonHD 6 лет назад
and he didnt put all his strenght into crushing iron mans armor
@godz-_-9928
@godz-_-9928 6 лет назад
Ya that force if for one foot did you not pay attention
@alexanderpape7024
@alexanderpape7024 6 лет назад
Well, this is MatPat, someone willing to go above and beyond to do the bare minimum required to get 12 year-olds to like his shit
@noahsalmons22
@noahsalmons22 4 года назад
Those comparisons are so flawed that’s Thor’s hands versus hulks deadlift
@jacobjean5656
@jacobjean5656 3 года назад
One of things is unlifitable and the other one can be broken by most avengers
@sergiu1605
@sergiu1605 3 года назад
@@jacobjean5656 It cant and mjolnir is liftable
@jacobjean5656
@jacobjean5656 3 года назад
@@sergiu1605 it is lifatable but only by people who are worthy or have extreme power and hacks. The hulk is not worthy and does not have extreme hacks.also iron man suit is breakable by most avengers remember when Captain and Bucky beat Ironman up and broke his amror.
@sergiu1605
@sergiu1605 3 года назад
@@jacobjean5656 They only destroyed the helmet. And they were 2. Hawkeye would fight with Tony for hours and still cant brake it
@jacobjean5656
@jacobjean5656 3 года назад
@@sergiu1605 hulk would destroy tony in his regular suit in one second
@AM_Edits001
@AM_Edits001 2 года назад
Now that infinity war has been released i think thor's new moment of strength should be where he opened up the dyson's sphere to make stormbreaker
@bennyaverygardner9681
@bennyaverygardner9681 2 года назад
Also a fun fact about Jormangunahydgflawe is that it's actually one of Loki's children in Norse Mythology sooooooooo... can't wait to see them tackle THAT
@snwitzles
@snwitzles 5 лет назад
Hulk was doing a dead lift. Thor was squeezing. Different muscle groups.
@andrewreil3938
@andrewreil3938 5 лет назад
Thor generated that force with his fucking forearms. Thats insane.
@borispasch7153
@borispasch7153 5 лет назад
Yeah! And Hulk used his whole posterior chain which is like 10000x stronger than just the forearm muscles. Also when Hulk tried to pick up the hammer he looked like he was using all of his power on the other hand Thor crushed Ironmans suit effortlessly. Btw: I really like your vids but i think you messed up a bit this time.
@johnguy3211
@johnguy3211 5 лет назад
This
@asherang7
@asherang7 5 лет назад
Thor is stronger pound for pound and he has fighting srats
@blakeadcock6226
@blakeadcock6226 6 лет назад
HOLD UP... When hulk is lifting Thor's Hammer in the Helicarrier he is clearly using many more muscles pulling the hammer with his arms and the force going from his feet into the ground thus digging himself into the tarmac... Thor is only using one hand... clearly using less muscles to crush Iron Man's gauntlet... So Thor's hand can exert 300 thousand pounds of force less than all of hulks arms. There is a little thing for ya Matty boy. Plus in Thor Ragnarok he would have beaten the Hulk but he got tazed and stuff. He doesn't need his hammer so all of your points about him using the hammer to beat the Hulk are now voided
@pricepig
@pricepig 6 лет назад
Blake Adcock I mean it's not like hulk has never dented iron mans suit before
@dylanautry9423
@dylanautry9423 6 лет назад
Hulk dented the hulk buster suit which is 17 times stronger than the Iron man suit.
@YungSkwid
@YungSkwid 6 лет назад
also, we don't know that crushing ironman's gauntlet even uses all of thors strength. Also, thor is only using his forearm mucles, whereas hulk is using his whole body. It is just not a fair comparison.
@sedalespencer69
@sedalespencer69 6 лет назад
Dylan Autry he didn't just sent it, he tore them apart lol
@dominikk9713
@dominikk9713 6 лет назад
Was searching for this. Thor uses his Hand and Hulk his whole body. If I could bring up 34/37 the force of what a Deadlifter can lift up with only my Fingers, I wouldnt really consider myself weaker..
@kyleseverene7823
@kyleseverene7823 3 года назад
Great video love the video it was really good and interesting
@fadymehany4905
@fadymehany4905 3 года назад
telling stan lee he's wrong is like telling tony stark that jarvis is not actually called jarvis
@Hilophyle
@Hilophyle 5 лет назад
Who else thinks matpat should redo this theory???
@ericberkowitz3320
@ericberkowitz3320 5 лет назад
me
@matijabozic1678
@matijabozic1678 5 лет назад
Hilophyle Thor is stronger
@ejiacavarice2367
@ejiacavarice2367 5 лет назад
Me
@bompscout1999
@bompscout1999 4 года назад
Hilophyle me
@temper1287
@temper1287 2 года назад
10:45
@LateBandwagon
@LateBandwagon 6 лет назад
Are you telling me you compared thor's grip strength to hulk using every muscle in his body?
@strangecontent9417
@strangecontent9417 6 лет назад
Bob Saget YES! Finally someone noticed.
@redmdlee
@redmdlee 6 лет назад
Yeah funny how he missed that even after narrating it lol
@akonacorn3629
@akonacorn3629 6 лет назад
Bob Saget hulk still has more feats than hulk.
@ranondomnicninjagaming423
@ranondomnicninjagaming423 6 лет назад
Akon Acorn hulk had more feats than hulk?
@CaseyShontz
@CaseyShontz 6 лет назад
Bob Saget yeah... that’s not really an even comparison...
@MrAliarcid
@MrAliarcid 2 года назад
I love how he says when he says the amount of forced to destroy the earth while a lot of people take the time to see how much Force any show freezer Galatis every Supervillain who tried to destroy the earth
@FMP1yt
@FMP1yt Год назад
I like how he says that he is not seeing who will win in a fight and then immediately looks at their fights in the comics
@Jifpete
@Jifpete 6 лет назад
U forgot that thor was beating the crap out of hulk before the grandmaster decided to paralyze him.
@sabu4539
@sabu4539 6 лет назад
He said this isn't about if they fought its about strength and he also said that if Hulk gets more angry he gets stronger, so Thor kicking his will make Hulk angrier thus his strength increasing surpassing Thor. Also Hulks power is not only physical strength he has multiple of powers, one which is rapid healing similar to Wolverines, Hulks durability is fucking insane.
@Joseph-sg3jz
@Joseph-sg3jz 6 лет назад
SA4B Thor was still going to win he easily could have knocked Hulk out once he had been kicking his ass.
@goddessoflove4ever
@goddessoflove4ever 6 лет назад
SA4B no ones talking about winning a fight. Hulk couldn't match Thor's strength one on one fisticuffs in that scene. MatPat's just wrong again.
@andreamazzeo4306
@andreamazzeo4306 6 лет назад
Also if we are talking about who wins the fight (And Matpat isn't talking about that) Thor probably wins because he is a more experienced fighter and has other powers like thunder ecc. .That said, a draw is probably inevitable because they are both incredibly resilient and neither of them have been able to even scratch the other.
@lysoutrighter8260
@lysoutrighter8260 6 лет назад
@SA4B How can a dead Hulk gets madder? Thor summons a lightning bolt and Hulk is dead.
@nef36
@nef36 4 года назад
When Thor can almost match Hulk's deadlift with his grip and still be deemed weaker
@sherryelder9511
@sherryelder9511 Год назад
Just goes to show even "gods" have a hard time with the hulk
@primetime4373
@primetime4373 Год назад
@@sherryelder9511 that’s not what it shows nor was that the OP’s point The point was that MP’s conclusion makes no sense, especially with the evidence he himself presented
@primetime4373
@primetime4373 Год назад
@@sherryelder9511 If Thor’s fingers and forearms output nearly as much as Hulk’s legs and torso, logically Thor’s Legs and Torso should be able to lift immensely more
@enderking6503
@enderking6503 Год назад
Who else agrees that his intros are enough to ruin our childhoods?
@philjohnson5154
@philjohnson5154 4 года назад
9:08 Correct me if I'm wrong but Tony won that fight
@andre-5412
@andre-5412 5 лет назад
Just wanna mention that hulk uses the strenght of his entire body while trying to lift the Hammer but Thor just needs his forearms and fingers to crush iron mans suit
@zeenzones6928
@zeenzones6928 5 лет назад
@@cycle4893 ???.
@Africa41
@Africa41 5 лет назад
With his non dominant hand
@anthonyvasco6356
@anthonyvasco6356 5 лет назад
UltraMagicOwl Playz he meant seeing hulk try to pick up the hammer and seeing the amount of force his foot put out was not just from hulks leg, but from his whole body. Mat put this measurement against Thor’s one hand strength feat and concluded hulk is stronger, but if Thor can do almost what hulk can do with one hand, what’s saying Thor can’t do way more if he uses his whole body
@MegaTexasCountry
@MegaTexasCountry 5 лет назад
UltraMagicOwl Playz he is talking about when hulks feet are sinking
@voidrev909
@voidrev909 5 лет назад
@UltraMagicOwl Playz its supposed to mean he used his entire body power to break the ground
@eamonnkavanagh171
@eamonnkavanagh171 6 лет назад
I would like to point out that the scene in which Thor tries to lift his hammer Odin has de-powered him making him as strong as a very buff human but still human also the hammer is at a more awkward angle and height for Thor to break rock and it was slippery ,therefore making this an unfair example. On the other hand when Thor broke iron mans gauntlet he was using a single hand but when hulk dented the concrete he was using all of his muscles and strength. Therefore in conclusion i believe this theory to be false with no offence to matpat i'm sure you put a lot of work and time into this theory ,but hey that's just a theory a film theory ,thanks for reading aaaand cut!
@TheAsylumCat
@TheAsylumCat 6 лет назад
THE GAMIN EAMONN another thing to note is that minolnir ( no idea how to spell that off hand) acts as a buff to Thor's existing strength assuming that the movies use that as cannon.
@The_Archer-he2ft
@The_Archer-he2ft 6 лет назад
I agree, Though this theory is not a theory when one of the creators says that one is stronger. It is more like a wrong theory.
@10isaoruiz
@10isaoruiz 6 лет назад
But as stated the hammer it self is not heavy, just those who are worth can lift it in the MCU.But lets says it is roughly 100 to 150 pounds, most "buff" can lift that easy. So yeah the actually action of lifting the hammer can't truely show their powers because of the spell on it not it's weigh. So back to the iron man armor. Lets say both hulkbuster armor and the regular iron man armor are made out of the same materials, hulk is shown to crush and tear part of it in certain points of the fight. So from that I suppose they have roughly the same strength. I honestly can't really tell which of the two is strong in the MCU but just base off of what Matt and others say about the iron man armor they are both at semi equal strength.
@ruppelspoopels
@ruppelspoopels 6 лет назад
THE GAMIN EAMONN hulk did the same thing in the "go to sleep scene"....
@TheAsylumCat
@TheAsylumCat 6 лет назад
The_ Archer1202 granted Stan Lee doesn't write these things anymore, which means newer feats aren't his planed cannon like hulk getting mad enough to break planets, not just hold them together.
@Nathan-W
@Nathan-W 2 года назад
6:12 is the best. The accent MatPat puts on is the absolute best 😂😂😂
@zigchaos477
@zigchaos477 2 года назад
10:21 matpat predict Steve rogers lifting mjolnir in endgame
@duderyandude9515
@duderyandude9515 6 лет назад
But matpat legs have 4x the potential of your arms so you would divide by 4 on hulks side for an even estimate
@halflard9982
@halflard9982 6 лет назад
And Thor only used his fucking fingers
@thepixelkings3491
@thepixelkings3491 6 лет назад
What is this? (This is to a spam that was here, for the future people)
@free_playstation_2
@free_playstation_2 6 лет назад
And Hulk's feet is bigger than Thor's hand
@JakeSnake07
@JakeSnake07 6 лет назад
Spam. Report it.
@Blank-ww3ph
@Blank-ww3ph 6 лет назад
Matt is wrong
@MarcosAmparo
@MarcosAmparo 6 лет назад
You know who's stronger than every Avenger? Winnie The Pooh
@MarcosAmparo
@MarcosAmparo 6 лет назад
Js
@azizbanaga2844
@azizbanaga2844 6 лет назад
Amen
@likeactualsoulmates
@likeactualsoulmates 6 лет назад
Marcos Amparo that just became amazing .. They should make a movie out of it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@downsonjerome7905
@downsonjerome7905 6 лет назад
He atac He protec And he even giv suc
@TheMasonRacin
@TheMasonRacin 6 лет назад
Eh, no
@mynameisrayaan
@mynameisrayaan 2 года назад
"Mat, did you forget a leg has maybe 2× strength of your arm, so even if I lower it to 1.5× it'll still be 5,184,000 of force, sorry to break it to ya :) "
@hassanqanbari8531
@hassanqanbari8531 Год назад
0:36 really missed that intro👏👏
@tiberiuscaesar9643
@tiberiuscaesar9643 6 лет назад
*Spoiler Alert for Thor: Ragnorok* 7:31 actually Thor is a god now in the MCU. That was the whole point of the movie, with Thor learning his hammer is just an outlet for his power that was never needed and having the blue electricity shoot out of his body. He is the GOD of thunder now
@Mazin27
@Mazin27 6 лет назад
finally someone said it thank you
@writtenepilogue
@writtenepilogue 6 лет назад
yeh he was also about to beat the hulk before the grandmaster shocked him, if he didn't want to keep banner alive then hulk would be dead.
@bluepup8042
@bluepup8042 6 лет назад
Thanks for the spoiler
@Mazin27
@Mazin27 6 лет назад
Arjey Batman actually no he didn't when i commented 'finally someone said it thank you'' only the bot had replied so KSG HD did stupidly press read more and blamed it on the guy even though there was a spoiler warning from the beggining
@writtenepilogue
@writtenepilogue 6 лет назад
Is It really that big a deal, come on fellas you're al 12 anyway
@lucisxz
@lucisxz 6 лет назад
But when Thor was crushing Iron Man's gauntlet he is not giving his all but Hulk gave it all in trying to lift mjolnir at the moment. Thor doesn't want to crush iron man's arm. But that's just my ques.
@barrybeebenson4042
@barrybeebenson4042 6 лет назад
Manu Puri Only worthy can field Mjölnir.
@stlchucko
@stlchucko 6 лет назад
A couple key things... The number for Hulk was based on 1 foot. Both feet dented the ground, making that number at least double. Second, it’s highly doubtful that Hulk was “giving his all”. That’s not the angriest Hulk has been. Plus, Hulk was crushing and ripping the Hulkbuster armor with relative ease, making an apples to apples comparison appear to give Hulk the edge.
@hereIAm604
@hereIAm604 6 лет назад
Still, the amount of strenght you can accumulate in your feets is way higher, than in your hands, since your feet and mainly your legs contain way bigger muscles than your hands/arms (which Thor also used only one). Also Hulk used his whole body trying to lift the hammer, while Thor only used the muscle strenght of his one hand/arm. In other words, Hulk used pretty much all of his body muscles to get a bit more raw force, than Thor with only one hand. And he was not even trying to hurt Tony.
@thezerfer9860
@thezerfer9860 6 лет назад
But still it is hulks foot
@Dhjaru
@Dhjaru 6 лет назад
Comparing finger strength with weight lifting strength. You are a lot stronger when you weight lift...
@nilsvader4k393
@nilsvader4k393 Год назад
Matpat just insulted every Scandinavian with his pronounciation of Jörmungandr.
@crazyglue80
@crazyglue80 8 месяцев назад
To me the answer becomes more obvious when you look at it as Odin’s son vs Hulk
@hikmetmelihozdemir4389
@hikmetmelihozdemir4389 6 лет назад
The hammer has no power. It just focuses Thor’s powers into a single point. This was mentioned in the movie.
@deltrasros8916
@deltrasros8916 6 лет назад
Ya but there's a problem what about the comics
@deltrasros8916
@deltrasros8916 6 лет назад
John Marshall again it's in the movie not comics
@4vro
@4vro 6 лет назад
You do realise this whole video is about saying that we're running on movie logic u fucktard
@Chuck_Norris_
@Chuck_Norris_ 6 лет назад
also he's comparing thor when he does not have the odin force so stock characters should be banner vs thor with no odin force and hulk vs thor with odin force in which thor will win easilly with said powers
@deltrasros8916
@deltrasros8916 6 лет назад
xXbghytXx I’m sorry but that’s the point if you don’t get it reply
@UselessSpen
@UselessSpen 6 лет назад
Matpat you forgot a key point-- Muscle groups. When Hulk drove his feet into the ground he was using every muscle in his body trying to lift the Hammer. Compared to Thor who was only using his hand to crush Iron man's armor. If one hand can crush that much what happens if he uses two, Lifts with his legs, or idk puts his back into it. You got Hulks total body strength now we need Thors to make a good comparison.
@94e88
@94e88 6 лет назад
Steven Langevin You have take in to account that Mat compared the alloy to literal steel beams, not to thin sheets like on the suit. Mat just took a steel beams max load, timed it by four and used that number, which is not right in anyway. So Thor would actually be much weaker if Mat would do his research and not be lazy. And even worse, he said that the alloy was 4x HARDER not tougher or more durable, see hardness has nothing to do with durability, hardness just usually makes things resistant to abrasion but makes the material brittle. This episode is one of the more innaccurate and lazily researched ones. Also, it seems like he wants Thor to be the winner, so that's that
@drakingp2119
@drakingp2119 6 лет назад
It's time to stop Get some help dude you really have got to stop copy pasting this thing.
@dermotshaw6775
@dermotshaw6775 3 года назад
A 2nd episode, now that phase 3 is done, would be awesome
@Titanic-wo6bq
@Titanic-wo6bq 3 года назад
3:13 The face of MTF when they realize 682 has escaped the facility
@kal-eldritch
@kal-eldritch 6 лет назад
Thor's feet didn't sink into the ground when he tried to lift it because he had no powers at that time
@autolockfeed5946
@autolockfeed5946 6 лет назад
That is also a great point, Odin's enchantment (up until ragnarok when destroyed) means unless thor has his hammer he does not have his ppower.
@petereyes6924
@petereyes6924 6 лет назад
Thor was essentially a human.
@donatokawakameva
@donatokawakameva 6 лет назад
Plus, it was raining, making the ground slicker than when the Hulk lifted it in the helicarrier.
@7isAnOddNumber
@7isAnOddNumber 6 лет назад
Keep in mind that Hulk's legs may be stronger than Thor's hand. They are different in proportional strength after all.
@undergravitydownforce714
@undergravitydownforce714 5 лет назад
You can apply a much greater force when dead lifting then gripping.... Think about it for just a few moments
@thee-bean-master3458
@thee-bean-master3458 5 лет назад
NightscarX99 that's the reason I came to the comments, because thor outputs that merely with his hand, but hulk it pushing down with that force, but he is doing that by lifting on the hammer, so it involves his arm muscles, which should be a lot stronger than just a hand
@eyetrash4737
@eyetrash4737 5 лет назад
I was about to say something in the comments but, looks like I’m not the only 1 who noticed that
@rogertham4383
@rogertham4383 5 лет назад
NightscarX99 I agree with you
@elenhajmeer6098
@elenhajmeer6098 5 лет назад
thor even beated hulk without his hammer or his thunder power with his hands
@user-di2sv5zy4k
@user-di2sv5zy4k 10 месяцев назад
Actually it was the character called molecule man who dropped the mountain on to of the hulk along with the rest of the superhero’s in secret wars, not the beyonder
@WhiteBuzzardP
@WhiteBuzzardP 3 года назад
"Steve Rogers (maybe)" For sure.
@kylekelley8370
@kylekelley8370 5 месяцев назад
The midgard serpent in Norse mythology is posters around all of midgard which is pretty much the Earth of the 9 realms but midgard is is only one of the 9realms
@alexlimfilms
@alexlimfilms 4 года назад
2:12 "I wanna determine who is literally the strongest, not who would win in a fight" *proceeds to determine who would win in a fight*
@shade08538
@shade08538 3 года назад
Lol true
@doge_king2532
@doge_king2532 2 года назад
I never realized that
@danonyt1611
@danonyt1611 2 года назад
I just realised that as well=)
@RollingSkill
@RollingSkill 3 года назад
Bruh does he realize that that “banner strongest avenger” was a f*cking joke
@tonkhk
@tonkhk 3 года назад
he was just wondering man
@Scarry-pb2tp
@Scarry-pb2tp 2 года назад
Relax lol it’s not that serious
@taypas5606
@taypas5606 2 года назад
jeez thats what mat does calm down man
@gavinwilson1411
@gavinwilson1411 5 лет назад
Holy hell watching this the day after Stan lee died, it feels really nice to hear Stan lee talking about what he loved most
@haillobster7154
@haillobster7154 5 лет назад
I'm glad to see Thor finally man up. Or god up. Because he was usually a pathetic disgrace in the Marvel animation.
@Colin-sw2bh
@Colin-sw2bh 5 лет назад
R.I.P Stan Lee (he will be missed
@MortalKombatfan-rz5je
@MortalKombatfan-rz5je 5 лет назад
Rip Stan lee
@thatcrystalpie
@thatcrystalpie 5 лет назад
*sniff
@Missingno_Miner
@Missingno_Miner 5 лет назад
Rip stan lee, also i notice this video is asking, who is stronger, a god who fights with an unliftable(except to him) hammer, or a radioactive mutant that can barely lift it
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