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I still applaud Yoshida for convincing them to let him burn 1.0 in the most glorious fashion imaginable and actually making it part of the game's lore.
Excuse me, can someone explain, when burn 1.0, does this mean, rebuilding from scratch ? How to say this... like, reformatting ? Like, all 1.0 things like cutscene, quest and all can’t be played as a newcomer?
@@night00glider that's right. None of the 1.0 content is available for access because it just doesn't exist anymore. It's all essentially ancient history that only a percentage of the players ever saw.
@@dominicmanester8125 Even IN THE FIRST day of 3D class, everyone learned that you can make basic shapes look good with minimal polygonal data. It's moostly on the UVs/Textures and lighting that makes those stand out. 1000 polygons is ridiculous.
I still remembered when YoshiP was asked to create a legacy 1.0 server. He looked like he just relived the 1.0-2.0 development hell and answered "Nightmares!"
I mean, Tifa's minion is in the game right now, and at the date this is being written it is considered the best MMORPG you can play right now. That clearly means that it was a serious problem. Probably the most serious problem of all.
lenlimbo of course, that’s why I’ve been heavily invested since Stormblood 2017, it’s a great MMO. I did play 14 around the time it was Free to Play but dropped off and didn’t go back. I had coworkers who kept telling me to try Realm Reborn but I was too busy with work & college.
@@zestymagic1679 I started around 2.4, IIRC (It was when the Ninja arrived) as a DRG and I haven't left. DRG for life! PS: DRG at that point was the worst job in the game for 8-man raids, as they had so little magic defense, for some reason, that they usually died to the raid bosses ultimates, and there was very little you could do to avoid it. Luckily they dropped the whole "reduced Mdef for DRGs", so now we are among the most resilient dps, having higher Pdef than the others and as much Mdef.
lenlimbo the person who got me to play ARR Stormblood told me and my friends that they need Tanks & Healers so I started as White Mage, after I mastered it I played Paladin.
@@zestymagic1679 well, you avoided the PLD hell of Heavensward, where it was suposed to be the tanky but low dps tank, but in truth it wasn't because it couldn't block magic attacks in a heavily magical damage enviroment, but its damage was still the lowest. Also it didnt have a proper area of effect attack, as instead of Total Eclipse, it had flash, which just generated enmity without doing any damage (well, it had circle of scorn, but one area every 30 seconds...) The PLD became a beast in Stormblood (easily the strongest tank at release) and it is still very powerful. It's my favorite tank right now. And I love WHM. It may be the simplest of the healers, but the raw power of its attacks and heals feels very good. And it has efectively infinite mp XD
@@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686 Ffxiv veteran of 7 Years here - no it didn't. Ff14 is just another game for wow players to run to. Those players would've stopped playing WoW regardless if ff14 existed or not.
Huh, now that you mention it yeah. the older Final Fantasy games were always infamous for saving the company from bankruptcy, guess we can add 14 into the list.
Absolutely 😬 the FF games before this were questionable at best and absolute trash at worst. FFXIV ARR showed great writing, design, and character choice. 12/13 were trash and FFXIV brought everything back that made FF awesome. Anyone else think Yoshi P looks like he's holding a coffee cup?
Yea idk I never had that issue either. And I wasn't even using a gaming PC, just a general multimedia laptop. I mean, I still think their priorities were ridiculously silly to just focus on graphics and nothing else but visually, 1.0 was an absolute dream compared to 2.0+.
@@will3641 That doesn't mean much. Dragon quest is a stale uninspired franchise which is par for the course for japan. They've always hated change. They always buy the same thing over and over again. I still like DQ but its stale.
@@16xthedetail76 I know that. But here we have someone who don't know why people know DQ but not FF. Just want to explain that reference. BTW, I really don't like DQ for some reason.....
@Storm Driven 🤣 Tho I like how Yoshida sensei (Yoshipi) came with -almost- the total opposite concept of XV (regarding light & darkness) At some point my brain couldn’t keep up with the story while I was playing ShB, But let’s admit it, that’s a totally fresh perspective to the whole concept
Except did they? A flood of pure light aspected aether destroys balance just as a flood of darkness aspected aether does like when it destroyed the world that became the void. It seems more like the whole point of the expansion was how balance is required. And with how many edgelord theories about Hydaelyn actually evil there are plenty of potential reasons for why it did what it did.
@@Dachief54 with the spoilers I had of ShB (I'm currently in SB) though Elidibu was telling the truth about the world, you could say he also was having some bias painting the Darkness as good guys as he wishes to bring back his people
@@granmastersword That and you look back and realize that the Ascians were right, period. Also Elidibus isn't even the real one (the name is a title anyway).
Rodeen Funny how the majority of the CURRENT Square Enix FF dev team *were also Squaresoft veterans*. Kitase, Nomura, Toriyama, ALL OF THEM were at Squaresoft. Sakaguchi had *very little* to do with the series between V and IX. Kitase directed VI, VII, and VIII. Not Sakaguchi. Ito directed IX (AND designed the entire damn ATB system since *IV*). It’s the exact same company but sure go off, kid.
@@MattAndre24 Nomura was not a veteran at Soft. He was merely a concept artist/illustrator, and debugger on previous games. Great part of the company's downfall could be attributed to the amount of control he was given. Not true that Sakaguchi "barely had any involvement", truly he no longer was a writer or director, but in all things he was an adviser. In FF7 he even worked extremely closely with the debug team that in any addition to the game he would manage to keep the loading times always low. In Squenix Amano is no longer a concept artist for example, only cover illustrator. Even people like Kitase were mishandled roles in their development. Masato Kato and Takahashi are also no longer around, two big parts of what gave Square Soft games their soul. And all in all it seems like even with the presence of members from Soft, the head of the company started giving them less and less freedom, or simply misinterpreted their own IPs. To think it's "the exact same company" is ridiculous.
Scene missing: Yoshida: Do you even know your competition? Komoto: Yeah, Everquest, right? Yoshida: Have you seriously not heard of World of Warcraft? Komoto: That's a real game? I thought it was something a RU-vidr made up.
@@MattAndre24 The joke was Yoshida called them out for not doing any research on the modern MMO market. Not sure why you think this was a diss on FFXI.
@@MattAndre24 But FFXI isn't a modern MMO. It was made during a completely different time and people who like that kind of gameplay already have FFXI as an option. A new MMO made nowadays has to compete against other modern MMOs, not against nostalgic ones, and 1.0 FFXIV thought it was fine to..basically just copy FFXI (but worse) and then was surprised everyone who had gotten used to the comfort of modern MMOs didn't like it.
Wait, so that is why it is called "A Realm Reborn?" I got to say, as a new player, learning all this stuff is a blast. I used to be a WoW lore nut, so I am definitely going to enjoy learning a billion character names and locations in the months to come!
1.0 was very pretty and had some gorgeous mocap cutscenes, but was a slog to play (never did myself, went back to XI), so yes this really happened. I remember the End of an Era cutscene coming out and I felt like I missed being part of something amazing, even though the damn thing was getting shut down.
Right? I just reached the level 50 MSQ and the way the story gradually made sense as the Calamity being the change from 1.0 to 2.0 is so good. They literally wove that mess into the lore and honestly, that was genius.
@@hedition9346 It was far beyond everything 1.0 did, and was a fun MMO despite the huge server issues. We are now at 5.2 were FFXIV is one of the most critically acclaimed MMO and FF with 18 millions registered players for a game that kept on improving at every expansion. I think it's safe to say that what the Yoshi-P team did to XIV was more than just meh.
@@rock4471 of course it is an improvement over 1.0. 18m registered players do not translate into active population. What is the selling point of this mmo? I hear alot of people say story and yes it has a better one than most mmo since stories in mmo are usually bland. But this isn't the Shakespeare people depict it to be (it does try to sound like one though).
I remember the fatigue system... if you kept trying to grind through it, you'd incur the developers' wrath and get SUPER FATIGUE in gathering jobs where you'd fail at whatever action you were trying about 80-90% of the time.
@@heartfullbutterfly314 I hope he is for a new mmo that is like ff11 because 14 is a trashcan that is ready to die already. It's been around long enough.
Just finished Shadowbringers, it is really the best story of FF in this decade. I actually love how they implemented some adrenaline-inducing mechanics that ties to the story into "that fight". Never once i experieced an MMORPG that can do what FFXIV did, never. Cutscenes are also symbolic and well-directed. OSTs are perfect fit, "Invincible" is now my new favorite. YoshiP really did turn things around....
God u making me salty I still have to complete 100 quest just to get to heavenward. I'll admit I was not enjoying a realm reborn fetch quest, but the gameplay was amazing. When they had primals, those cool dungeons, and the ending for realm reborn I got back excited. If all the other explansions are as good as everyone says I'm gonna be so happy.
Galaxy Vulture Me and my friend had been there, it was really a slog during those post-ARR quests. We dont want to skip anything, so we took 6 months to be able to clear Shadowbringers, there was a lot of sidetracks by the way. You dont have to rush, play the story at your own pace, but i understand if there are things you really want at the end of the expansion. If you love the gameplay, each expansion will improve the gameplay, quality and challenges, especially from Heavensward to Stormblood. For the story, imo, I would say Shadowbringers is indeed the best, but what hooked me hooked was Heavensward. Stormblood is also good, but i dont like it as much as HW. If you have any question or want to know what to do, feel free to ask, the community here is generally nice, even at max lvl. You will certainly meet "less than desireable" players at some point, but they are the minority here, so dont let them discourage you from what you enjoy! :D Also, you can report these players, GMs of this game are very serious about harassments, and offensive behaviors.
Yeah. The writer for ShB did so well. I heard she also wrote the story for Dar Knight which I've heard is godly too. I hope she write more plot in the game. 5.3 got me scared tho LOL
I came in after 3.0 so I’ve only heard the stories of those dark cruel Wretched times of 1.0. This video basically confirmed what at least 70 plus people told me online.
@ExHero627 same bro xD I joined the game somewhere at 3.something, mostly 3.4, because it was short before SB (4.0) I would every now & then come across ppl talking about 1.0 days & it’s horror lol Yoshida sensei is truly the best thing happened to this game, & this vid confirm it Gotta love his “Burn It” face xD
@@ExHero627 I Joined the Game at the Beta 1 and still have the 1.0 Collectors Edition in my Display let me say you just one thing about 1.0..... Ho Boy. And yes i am still playing.
Anyone else remember that beta where we could hear everyone's fanfaire when they leveled. Fanfaire all day repeating.. never stopping.. from the ocean to limsa
Square Enix knew it was imperative the Final Fantasy brand not be tarnished so they undertook one of the greatest relaunches in gaming history and had one of the best MMO expansions ever this year. Things can work out if you have the will.
Not really. They completely copped out and went full instant gratification and casual to an extreme. They removed everything that made ffxi good to play it safe and avoid rmt and get an easy cash grab. FF14 is beautiful vapid crap. FF14's subscription retention says it all.
@@ChaosLightspeed Huh? It's been true since the start. FF14 is a garbage mmo. It's literally just a shitty rpg. It's so cookie cutter any other player character for a duty flat out could just be a npc. It's paint by numbers garbage. All the worthwhile mmo elements were nerfed into the ground or watered down to be useless. Gil is for all intents and purposes worthless in the game. Anything crafted is worthless garbage. The whole ah is pointless by extension. Crafting is nothing more than the sake of crafting itself. The social element of the game is nonexistant given how cookie cutter the game is. You don't need anyone. On the flip side it's social in a way it completely shouldn't be as in a platform for people to just get on and talk and upgrade a glamor and feed their chocobo. Just completely vapid garbage akin to mobile trash games. It's a joke you or anyone would ever defend such a game that has completely sold out gamers.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Wow... I really do feel like I lost a few IQ points reading your comment. Go ahead and continue to believe what you want, but know your opinion is garbage and you should really re-evaluate what you consider a good game.
Just to put into perspective how crazy 1k polys for a flowerpot is...if I make a basic cylinder shape in a 3d program, I have to set it to 250 sides, a 250 sided cylinder, in order to hit 1k polys. Mobile quality games could set that to 8 sided and get away with it, most modern games would go for 16-20 sided at most
@@GamingTranceSeer look up Cinema Sins on ff13. Also imagine a video game where you cannot explore or talk to NPCs, or optional dungeons. It's just one big hallway and you will never be able to backtrack.
@Olzoladies First of all....even though they constantly shout "Were pulse l'cie, enemies of coccoon!" Doesnt mean crap if they dont di anything with it. Yes they are criminals but not KNOWN criminals. They identify them by their TATTOO that can be placed anywhere and all they need to do is hide it. FF13 uses the l'cie brand/criminals excuse to literally streamline the entire story to putting these characters outside of society. Second: no. Content isnt just content. Here's an example: Valhalla Knights 3 in the ps4 and vita was a TERRIBLE game because it gave you the most mundane fetchquests, the most boring story, and no real interaction. The ending to the game is you literally dying and the main antagonist taking your body. There is post game content that unlocks all the routes you didnt have access to, and add a but of a revenge postgame story. But it's still trash. Ff13 you have to play 80% of the game and suffer until you actually get access to anything DECENT.
@@UkaranComplacency and trying to apply their own feelings about what FF “should be” to the game. Sometimes detachment can help with objectivity. Take Tony Gilroy and Christopher Nolan, people who gave us the best Star Wars and Batman content of this generation. You know what neither of them are? Fans of the source material. Gilroy has made it clear that he never cared for Star Wars at all, and Nolan never picked up a comic a day in his life. Meanwhile a lot of actual fans have made some pretty divisive movies in those franchises. That’s because an objective perspective is free from trying to make something in line with work in the franchise already, and free to just focus on making something great on its own merits.
"We burn it. The game. The server. The engine." The only other time someone was this brilliant was when Bloodborne gutted any semblance of blocking from the Dark Souls series.
I remember getting a beta key for FFXIV at an anime convention in 2010-ish and it was unplayable, but at the time I blamed it on my potato laptop. In hindsight the laptop wasn't that potato.
Okay these developers, writers, programmers, sound designers, engineers, anyone who worked on this game has a lot of respect from me. To take something that was incredibly shitty and make it amazing AND blending the lore from V1 into V2 is amazing. As someone who started playing the game recently, I’m in awe over the environments, the enemies, even the home base of Limsa Lomensia. I watched a bard player play songs like Radioactive and Halo and that was amazing. I’m not a big MMO player so I’m not used to interacting with other players but it feels so organic and just so right to see players riding their mounts as they pass by, aid others when they’re attacking enemies, or just goof off with them. Knowing what it went through to get to where it is now, I give them so much credit for how they handled this dumpster fire (take notes Bethesda).
I hope that last part is a reference to Fallout 76 and not the wait for Elder Scrolls 6 because that's really nothing to complain about. I really think it's a good idea for them to take their time on that one, and do things very thoroughly.
Johnathon Spade oh god no it’s for 76. Bethesda needs all the time they can get they can’t screw up another game on the level they did of 76. I’m okay with waiting. Cyberpunk 2077 is a long wait but I preordered it and I am sticking by them even if they have to delay it again (hopefully not but if they do I trust their judgement).
@@daffanier Haven't played it since March. I moved on to other games that deserved my attention. When it's complete I'll go back to it cuz I love the world and the characters but the bugs really got in the way for me I couldn't finish some missions so yeah when I picked up Days Gone on PC when it came out I deleted CP to make room for it.
Never played XIV, but I 100% believe this is exactly how it went based on what I've heard about it. That ending though was brilliant. (Also, where is the Luna DLC in a Nutshell?)
I actually seen the youtube series about this, yeah this is basically the short rundown of how it all went down. (Natually there were some liberties here cuss this is a parody, but for the most part it was spot on)
Basically yes..except there incorrect information about the engine..its not same luminous studio but more like a 'cousin' to the engine..luminous studio itself still being in development alongside 15
@@patroks7581 They took it down for one year, IIRC, before releasing 2.0. By the time they take it down it was actually playable and you could enjoy it unironically, as far as I know, although not as much as a truly good MMO.
I swear, I keep seeing 1.0 defenders pop up here and there either saying 1.0 "wasn't that bad" or how crap 2.0 and beyond are, yet where were all the 1.0 defenders when the game was a burning trash pile before Yoshida burned it down?
I also enjoyed ff13, every game is different and while it was a lot more linear than I would have liked it to be, I loved the action and still had fun.
I loved FF13 I kinda liked the second one less and I can't put my finger on why the linear corridors of 13 were a bit iffy but can't say I didn't like combat, music or anything maybe hope and vanille but that's 'cause hope was a bit 'too' whiny for most of the game and the guys who gave Vanille's VA a script are crazy for telling her to make so many of her...'sounds'
@@ruxis8179 I think the real problem with Vanille is she's the kind of character both with the way she looks and the way she sounds that you just can't have friends or family over while you play the game. lol.
3:58 "Don't worry. It's time for us to bring our secret weapon. Behold!" Ad: "Dr Squatch's all natural body soap for men. Because you deserve the best."
@jvalex18 Is it though KH3 switched Luminous to Unreal 4 loosing a whole year of work and FF7 Remake also used Unreal 4 no other Square Enix game has used it since FF15 Im not saying they won't but so far nothing else has
Actually ffxiv 1.0 used a very early version of the Luminous engine, NOT crystal tools, 2.0 uses crystal tools, the game still uses Crystal Tools to this very day, which is why the graphics look as they do.
"We will definitely keep using our own engine and not one of those third party one. Because this is definitely what make the game good." Except they ended up using Unreal Engine for KH3.
nah they wont give up in using inhouse engine....own inhouse engine is not a problem as long it well made up..capcom mt framework or their recent re engine is good example..one of the problem with crystal tools is, other than it nightmare to use, SE want their devs to treat the engine as multipurpose engine..similliar problem with EA's Frostbite that ruin tons of game like mass effect andromeda, anthem and even cancelled amy heanig's star wars game...that game originally battlefield engine, really good for shooter but not yet for another genre..devs had trouble even building basic rpg inventory system for dragon age inquisition one of reason kh3 and ffviir use UE4 is, Luminous studio that time not finished yet, still in development and the devs didnt had resourse to support another team no to mention the distance between KH3 team which is based on osaka and former tech director julien mceron want the team to focused develop,finished the engine alongside 1 game as how it should be to avoid crystal tools fiasco so, rather than waiting for the engine, it was right call for Square to use UE4 which is pretty powerfull,capable and devs friendly..luckly start wars fallen jedi also use UE4 instead of frostbite...that engine doesnt even able to provide basic features for uncharted style action adventure game for the former uncharted directors cancelled start wars game also, the engine 14 use not same engine as Luminous..it custom engine made specifically for the game..more like 'sister' engine to the still in development luminous studio that time
@@kumomeme7852 so...tl;dr the problem was primarily treating an engine that was specially designed for a type of game as multi-purpose, not accounting the shit show that it could lead
I don't think it will ever lose the phoenix from the ashes story it has. In part because it is quite literally baked into the lore of the game itself. But this isn't a bad thing, it's quite a marketing gimmic, as well as a fun story to tell friends to get them interested in the game. But that's quite a bit different from a bad reputation. It's one of the healthiest MMOs out there, and is often cited as the best one on the market (especially after shadowbringers). The only bad reputation it still has is the drag that is the post ARR content up to heavensward. Because ho boy, that section has burned out more than a few people.
This is hilarious, I only started playing the game in the last few months but quickly fell in love with the current iteration. Never knew things used to be this bad.
It's a bit unfortunate that of players who never played 1.0 will ever get to experience the events leading up to the calamity. It was pretty damn awesome.
are you aware that Hiromichi Tanaka was working on final fantasy since the first game of the series? He is the person behind Mana series and Chrono Cross and also FFXI. The only "problem" with Hiromichii Tanaka vision of FFXIV is Tanaka wanted FFXIV to be the successor of FFXI, so he wanted the game to be an MMORPG from the Pre WOW era. FFXI is a core gamer game, with even now with no minimap, no quest indication, no instance dungeon, no team tool, but with fantastic and enormous world, lore, immersive universe (the game have a fame system in each city to unlock quest) and no tank/dps/healer system and mostly playable in first person view . Tanaka didn't want FFXIV following the WOW schema, he wanted a game where the player following his own adventure with an unique character evolution and gameplay. The main problem was just that Tanaka really worked on FFXIV just for 2 years because FFXI was really too time consuming before. Tanaka needed more time to complete FFXIV( 2 years minimum) and the very advanced graphic of the game(far superior to the original release of A realm reborn) were due to a game mean to be released for 2012/2013 and not on PS3. But Square enix forced Tanaka to rush the game for a release before the release of WOW cataclysm and because following the announcment of FFXIV and the failure of the update of the successor of Tanaka on FFXI made the population drop badly. So FFXIV was released in an Alpha state. But Actually, I think that Tanaka vision was not bad and if Sqare Enix had waited 2 years more, it would have been a great game, very different from a realm reborn(who just take the better idea of every popular MMORPG, but great . Actually, Elder scroll Online is more the the true FFXIV wanted by Tanaka than a realm reborn
@@chevalierkraken "Actually, Elder scroll Online is more the the true FFXIV wanted by Tanaka than a realm reborn". Thank God it didn't turn out that way, then. Better the current FFXIV, "polished WoW clone" or not, than that piece of zenimax/bethesda pile of crap.
I was not aware Yoshi had zero FF experience. What a fucking chad, holy shit. And now, from saving 14, they finally entrust the future of FF to him. Something it needed after 15 and 7R. Things are looking bright.
Theres some magical in SE. Back in Squaresoft days, Sakaguchi and Uematsu saved Squaresoft. Now, Yoshi P and Soken saved SE. I guess the cycle continues in the near future
This, to me, still feels like one of those things that SHOULD NOT HAVE WORKED. When 1.0 failed this bad, that should have been it. But now, 3 expacs later, with Shadowbringer being absolutely AMAZING!, it's like something outta a, well, video game.
Bro I can't tell you how fucking incredible, it was, we played the first one, gave up on it (I mean wow was still out there why waste time of that shit) so then I hear ffxiv realm reborn comes out, andi notice wait, isnt that the same one? Did they just change the cover? And to my surprise it's the same name (xiv) but a whole fucking new game it was ALL that I was searching for in the first one snd more and the expansion just literally had me dying of how good it was I couldn't believe it, this is probably one of the best comebacks in any game there will ever be
Well he’s the producer. The person who wrote Heavensward is doing the story and the director is the guy who worked on Devil May Cry 5 and The Last Remnant. It also looks like a mix between FFII and the abandoned concepts of Versus XIII, which is cool. Needless to say, I think that FFXVI might turn out very good. Great, even. I have faith in Yoshi-P and the crew that work on it.
