Final Inspect Fridays Episode #5: Taking an Objective Look at the 468. 

What do you like about them?

@magfedranchpaintball if you change the follower and spring with the pe ones they hold more rounds the 10 round mag fit 14 rounds fsr because of there shape they cradle the round insted of pivoting on a round surface and there super reliable and they never let me down at the the end of the day i just want some thing that feeds flawlessly. the new valken magfed marker coming aperently is going to be compatible with dam mags witch is really smart

@@dpdonmegat1000may you post a link or provide video/pictures of the magazine capacity increase. I dont see that anywhere in the products description and I think a lot of the Magfed community could benefit if they knew that info, thank you.

I know the answer, i talked to a guy that owns an online paintball shop called AT paintball. He told me that since tippmann and first strike are competition, tippmann do not what their markers to be able to shoot first strike rounds. Actually makes sence if you see it out of the money making perspective. After all its all about money, even in the paintball Industry.

@@supernice8887 i figgured that was a possibility however it is still very upsetting :(. while i do understand this situation from a practical/economic standpoint i feel like it is doing more damage to the sport and the long term profits and growth of the sport overall :(. (i am largely refering to firs strikes monopoly on accurate paintballs and its consequences :( )

@@frankenheart2232 absolutly agreed, i hate first strike for selling their FSR for such a high price (50 cents a round in europe). Also selling t15 markers that mostly need to be worked on to funtion with FSR. Thats just no love for the Sport just big Corporate money making.

I think the issue is that it is not as "easy" as it seems. Tippmann as a brand is known for their reliability. To make a marker reliable with FSR, the MAGAZINE specifically but also the loading components - magwell, chamber, breech, angle needs to be tested, developed and properly executed to ensure FSR reliability. Tippmann has always produced markers first and foremost for Roundball and then FSR secondary. Markers that try to do both without spending the time and money, like Eclipse did with the EMF, typically ends up with a product that does neither really well like the subject of this video = the 468. The root of the problem in our opinion is demand. There is no standardized gameplay that uses, promotes, test, develop, and improve upon FSR and shaped projectiles as a whole. Without this, the manufactures have no reason to produce an FSR capable marker. The problem is money and specifically the lack of opportunity to make it.

@magfedranchpaintball I agree with this dilemma, specifically in regards with the slow rate of growth and adoption of first strike. But I would come down again and say that it comes down to first strikes monopoly on the round and the price they are insisting upon. I've noted your statements regarding the price of first strike compared to its accuracy however the reality is that it is still prohibitively expensive and even more so for someone who might be a prospective player but is turned away by the price :( (I just also wanted to note that these conversations are fantastic and I really hope that you will at some point set up a discord or the like to allow for more of there discussions and even perhaps a community growth that could come together and aid in the development and promotion of the sport ^^ )

It was marketed as such by some BCG manufactures. For example the S&W M&P has the BCG w/FA Grooves even though it does not have a Forward Assist. It very well could be just marketing gimmick. I agree with you on whether the FA is necessary or not. I have never had to use the FA on any of the ARs I own. Thank you for the feedback.