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I found some original bolts under the repair irons that help indicate how this drivers box was built. This has been the challenge of this wrecked stagecoach called the mud wagon. Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles often come with discoveries of different builder's styles.
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@markwatson9816
@markwatson9816 Год назад
Seems to me that you're one of the very few people who when you buy carriage bolts actually uses them on a carriage!
@antiowarr9467
@antiowarr9467 Год назад
lol lol
@ron.v
@ron.v Год назад
Hilarious! I spoke something similar (but less humorous) to myself then read your brilliant comment.
@lifefromscratch2818
@lifefromscratch2818 Год назад
Also one of the few who uses bolt cutters to cut bolts.
@JorgeM523
@JorgeM523 Год назад
I am always learning something new that is amazingly simple but effective. No lock tight needed, nip and mushroom the end.
@secretsquirrel6308
@secretsquirrel6308 Год назад
What's neat is we see many of these hardware and application right up through the automotive industry. This lasted unto perhaps the early 1990s. Quite often do restorers of old cars and trucks see the same hardware and uses. Tqo days ago I visted my friend who is restoring several old trucks (Chevrolet and Ford). While I was there he was fitting the bed and quarter panels. He was doing very much the same we see Mr. Engels doing here and using the same hardware. Of course I see the same on my Dodge Power Wagon.
@TheVwgolfmk1
@TheVwgolfmk1 Год назад
I am constantly fascinated by the way you figure out how this carriage is supposed to come together. Can't wait for the next instalment of ' Wagon CSI '
@johnalexander4356
@johnalexander4356 Год назад
Only your experience allows for a person to decipher that puzzle!
@scottwilcoxson2439
@scottwilcoxson2439 Год назад
It's amazing watching you intelligently decipher a pile of rotten wood and rusty iron. Can't wait to see the poor thing proud again!
@dennisgibbs6811
@dennisgibbs6811 Год назад
Three threads exposed beyond nut and/or attachment point. Just sayin'! You're still the best!
@deconteesawyer5758
@deconteesawyer5758 Год назад
Depends how much of your hide you want to scrape off brushing up against it.
@thisolesignguy2733
@thisolesignguy2733 Год назад
I think it's amazing how you can look at an iron and tell exactly what it is/was. Although, I do the same thing with old signs. When you specialize in something, you're always amazed at the people that specialize in other things. But man, you have no idea how much I use everything I've learned from you! For instance, today I was trying to figure out how to install some aluminum rod LED strips in a cabinet when I thought "I remember Dave did something like this on that chuckwagon a couple years ago when he did the slats for the roof...hmmm" and after some digging I found it and used the same method in a slightly different way. Saved me a ton of work trying to figure it out! So again, you saved my butt for the up-teenth time😉
@jameskaufmann4260
@jameskaufmann4260 Год назад
It's a great day watching a real craftsman at work. Keep up the amazing work in all that you do!👍
@motagrad2836
@motagrad2836 Год назад
Artist. Craftsman. Mechanic. Machinist. 😎
@ron.v
@ron.v Год назад
This has been such an interesting and exciting adventure. It's as if you're not only restoring a bit of transportation history but that you're bringing it's entire story alive from its birth until the present.
@ralphsullender2474
@ralphsullender2474 Год назад
Your detective work will bring this coach to a very good result.
@jerryh4983
@jerryh4983 Год назад
When you first pulled that project out my thoughts were why did the family keep that scrap. Now as the puzzle comes together I see an heirloom full of family memories they will enjoy for many more generations. Thanks Dave, I’m definitely following along!
@davidn.gaskill5774
@davidn.gaskill5774 Год назад
Glad you are not doing motel video
@secretsquirrel6308
@secretsquirrel6308 Год назад
Discovering the methods of past craftsmen and just delving into history has an allure all its own.
@bruceyoung1343
@bruceyoung1343 Год назад
I know that you will get er together. Thank You for letting us to watch
@johnkelly6942
@johnkelly6942 Год назад
I’m glad you’re rebuilding this coach to the “pre-wreck” configuration. No need to preserve the old patches.
@AlexTaradov
@AlexTaradov Год назад
That's a lesson to never do a sketchy repair job, or someone 100 years later may be critiquing your work.
@johnsebar7807
@johnsebar7807 Год назад
Just a repeat of what many are saying. Your skill at analyzing pieces of metal and falling apart wood is just something else. "Follow along" you bet, check constantly to find your latest updates. Have gone back to many of your older videos, The Chuckwagon was just pure art. Wonder if the owner has any pictures of it after leaving the shop?
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 Год назад
Solving the carriage puzzle piece by piece. Excellent restoration project by a craftsman.
@cyrilhudak4568
@cyrilhudak4568 Год назад
I think what you have shown us is a classic example of a (horse)shoe maker repair.
@leebarnes655
@leebarnes655 Год назад
Very much so and my money is on the issue that he was the only bidder on the wrecked heap 'O parts after the crash. I don't quite follow Dave's halfhearted "end over end" suggestion of the crash however, but do favor a misparked wagon and a train perhaps or even a redwood section awaiting load out near the train station that just got away from them and did a slow motion roll into the wagon that also shouldn't have been sitting in that precise location that day. Stuff happens as they say, that part is a certainty just as much as that guy murphy was afoot back in those days too.
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 Год назад
Thanks very much young man 👍 Shoe🇺🇸
@secretsquirrel6308
@secretsquirrel6308 Год назад
I simply wish to applaud the efforts of Miss Diane. These videos are a real treat. As I have said before. I greatly enjoy the scenic views at the beginning and end. The landscape view at the beginning of this video looks to contain a sun pillar. That is a real joy. Of course, the skill and ingenuity of the shop help is highly appreciated. Its a real treasure to watch one so dedicated to the many facets of his craft.
@jamesgreer1048
@jamesgreer1048 Год назад
It’s a great pleasure to watch a master craftsmen at work…and like all the greats so humble with it..
@milt7348
@milt7348 Год назад
Quite the mystery. Stay safe and we'll see you next week.
@n4leqonthego852
@n4leqonthego852 Год назад
I really enjoy the process of figuring out how this coach goes together, beautiful work.
@vicpatton5286
@vicpatton5286 Год назад
Dave, you are the "Sherlock Holmes" of Joliet, Montana! Fascinating to follow how you unravel the mysteries. Thank you for the education and entertainment. regards vic
@railroad9000
@railroad9000 Год назад
Dave, I'll bet you are a wizard at jigsaw puzzles!
@chrisbartrum3201
@chrisbartrum3201 Год назад
There's not many that can make driving a nail with a hammer can emulate an air-hammer at work. Kudos, Mr.Engels. Great work as always.
@brucemeller2794
@brucemeller2794 Год назад
Hi Dave, another captivating video. Thank you. I’m so glad that you’re removing the “after-market” accretions. No point trying to replicate a wrecked carriage. But you’re still respecting that this was a cheaper carriage, and so you’re honouring it’s real history. 👍👌🫶
@duanelundgren7985
@duanelundgren7985 Год назад
Yep, I like it... drill bits need to be STEERED whether drilling wood or metal!! Regarding the curious fittage, the phrase comes to mind: Making a Silk purse out of a Sow's ear.. 🙂 Thanks, Dave & Diane, I'm enjoying this!!
@tonydewey3023
@tonydewey3023 Год назад
More intriguing than a sherlock Holmes case. Cant wait for the next bit. Tony. Ireland
@fredferd965
@fredferd965 Год назад
The world's greatest jigsaw puzzle!!!
@Landrew0
@Landrew0 Год назад
I love these detective stories, where you decipher the way a wagon was built originally. What I don't like is when you show us your mean streak by doing a video about sanding.
@dwightl5863
@dwightl5863 Год назад
Sanding is part of the build. Take the good with the "bad".
@Dave-ty2qp
@Dave-ty2qp Год назад
LOL Sorry it comes with the territory.
@jsaurman
@jsaurman Год назад
0:40 OMG, is that a TORX screw? Hell must have frozen over. LOL.
@jeffwhyte1
@jeffwhyte1 Год назад
I know you’re a Makita man. But for your sawsall you ought to check out the Milwaukee Hacksaw. It’s great for one handed cuts. It’s a lot less taxing on the wrist. With more control. I have both in Milwaukee. And the hacksaw is my go to tool when I’ve only got one free hand. I don’t know if Makita has anything like it. It would be nice if they did. I do know you can buy a battery adapter so you could keep using your Makita batteries with it. Just a thought to make your work a little easier. Keep up the great work you’re channel is great to watch. And I’ve picked up some good knowledge.
@mfreund15448
@mfreund15448 Год назад
Happy Friday!! Dave is here!!
@patrickcolahan7499
@patrickcolahan7499 Год назад
Thanks very much for sharing. Love to watch you break things down. A challenge and a fun puzzle.
@rdaltry777
@rdaltry777 Год назад
Awesome as always
@MrJeffro56
@MrJeffro56 Год назад
Surely enjoy watching your videos! Will never build a wagon or fix a wagon wheel but I at least have some basic knowledge of just how complex it is.
@465maltbie
@465maltbie Год назад
Thanks for sharing how you figure things out, of course you can only do this because you have the experience of doing this many times before. Charles
@stg6186
@stg6186 Год назад
I hope that you are enjoying this process as much as we are. It’s a fascinating piece of detective work. You have endless patience which is very inspiring.
@normdyer94
@normdyer94 Год назад
RU-vid channel Todays Wild West did a nice 7 minute presentation of your work. Viewers here will enjoy it.
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 Год назад
Thank you.
@fredcorbit5078
@fredcorbit5078 Год назад
You have a curious combination of wood and fire Luv the show
@Dave-ty2qp
@Dave-ty2qp Год назад
Dave this has to be the most interesting video you have made so far. In my line of business which was aircraft repair, knowing the history of the bird was paramont in affecting a repair proceedure. This was extracted from the aircraft logs, and an aircraft without logs are worthless, and cannot even be registered in many countries, nor ever flown into most countries. LOL Even with carefully maintained logs, one must really pay attention when attempting a repair. Lives depend on it as did they back in the day.
@williamkn621
@williamkn621 Год назад
Entertaining educational, as always enjoyed
@MakeItWithJim
@MakeItWithJim Год назад
Best thing on RU-vid - love your work
@shortfuse43
@shortfuse43 Год назад
Your craftsmanship on the wagon and the detective work you do to sort out what the original would look like are wonderful to watch. BTW, I love the way you clock the nuts on the carriage bolts. Classy
@jeffclark2725
@jeffclark2725 Год назад
Always enjoy being invited to your shop , this project is really coming along, on another note that leather vest is really working well,
@paulkramer4176
@paulkramer4176 Год назад
I'm enjoying this series more than most others, though wheel building and turning hubs was hugely interesting to me as I've never done that, this is fascinating in that while I've built lots and lots of "cabinets and boxes etc, the detective work here is great. I'd never have known enough to see what you are seeing. Great job.
@rustyrobinson8027
@rustyrobinson8027 Год назад
His hammering skills are top notch very professional 👍
@richardsurber8226
@richardsurber8226 Год назад
Thanks Dave for the next episode. Like you say, A bit of a puzzle
@stuartlockwood9645
@stuartlockwood9645 Год назад
Hi Dave and Diane ☺, thanks for another interesting video, the resulting repairs after the wreck keep showing up as you take apart the old bits and pieces of wagon, but progress is good considering what you have to puzzle out as you go along, and that for me is what I find so interesting, cheers Dave, stay safe, best wishe's to you and Diane, Stuart and Megan UK.
@rudie2902
@rudie2902 Год назад
Great video! Very intriguing puzzle you are solving.
@catfishgray3696
@catfishgray3696 Год назад
DAVE, GREAT JOB, SEE YOU WEDNESDAY, GREAT VIDEO...TELL ALL HELLO...
@manfredschmalbach9023
@manfredschmalbach9023 Год назад
I particularly liked the "Sherlock Wheelwright" series so far. Thanks for sharing all Your considerations with the work!
@tomtruesdale6901
@tomtruesdale6901 Год назад
You would make a great detective as you look at a problem and figure out the solution to it. Great job you are doing on that coach.
@BruceEEvans1
@BruceEEvans1 Год назад
Love the Saint Anne's Reel music. 😀
@richardwhite1975
@richardwhite1975 Год назад
Nice job on the historical forensics. Your skill and craftsmanship amaze me.
@64Pete
@64Pete Год назад
If you say you're getting full contact, I believe you brother. Nice work as always. ✌🇦🇺
@MrAvjones
@MrAvjones Год назад
Don't forget to check the drive shaft while you are under the wagon.
@edhansen8531
@edhansen8531 Год назад
4 X 4, also check transfer case.
@errolpoxleitner9586
@errolpoxleitner9586 Год назад
Very good explanation. And work on this gem
@tinachambers4887
@tinachambers4887 Год назад
I knew you would figure it out Dave am enjoying series have a day love from TEXAS
@larrykelly2838
@larrykelly2838 Год назад
Great detective work.
@jsaurman
@jsaurman Год назад
10:02 That's really strange grain direction on those boards. Maybe those were in the bargain bin at the sawmill.
@timeflysintheshop
@timeflysintheshop Год назад
It has been nice seeing a bit of green in the background of the videos in the shop since you brought in the geraniums! 😁👍
@RobbieSongwriter
@RobbieSongwriter Год назад
Fascinating to see the complexity of how this was built, then repaired. You are the 👨‍🍳KING of forensic scientists re wagons/carriages, and its a priviledge to watch this reconstruction. Mark Watson - genius hilarious observation.😂 Thank you again Dave, for sharing your amazing knowledge and talent.🤠
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 Год назад
After having read most of the preceding comments about all I can add is BRAVO. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.😀😀
@JorgeM523
@JorgeM523 Год назад
Your knowledge and skills and keeping this Art alive keeps me watching, just like a mini-series, I am always waiting patiently for the next episode. Thanks for Sharing!
@amateurshooter6054
@amateurshooter6054 Год назад
Thanks Dave
@ZigZagMarquis
@ZigZagMarquis Год назад
I find some similarity between what you are doing here with this old coach rebuild and what Squatch253 is doing over on his channel with his X231 tractor rebuild. Thank you for your videos and channel. I enjoy watching. Please keep the videos coming.
@ColonelVermel
@ColonelVermel Год назад
Your videos are just great. It is such a pleasure to watch a master craftsman doing his work and your explanations are really informative!
@bobdavis5216
@bobdavis5216 Год назад
As always, i see the difference between caring about the end result and just getting it done. how many times do you bolt things together and then take them completely apart for 1/8 of an inch to get it right, not just done. Lead by example.
@jkerr7331
@jkerr7331 Год назад
Excellent job. I love the detective work and the in-depth explanations as you attempt to figure out original vs repair.
@petejohnson8590
@petejohnson8590 Год назад
I am so impressed by you, I am fascinated you do such natural work, your eyes take in everything, you are very inspiring, thank you from Grandpa Pete, greetings from France 🇫🇷🙏👍👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@thomasschurmann322
@thomasschurmann322 Год назад
Thank you, for all your work and time!
@mikemayer4303
@mikemayer4303 Год назад
Really appreciate the time taken to explain what you have found in the coach jig saw , it is really fascinating how the puzzle evolves . I for 1 will follow along as instructed. Thanks for sharing .
@jimdee5003
@jimdee5003 Год назад
Craftsman and puzzle solver 👍👍
@Daniel-gi3jo
@Daniel-gi3jo Год назад
A bed, a wash basin and pitcher along a wall. 19 rooms, makes sense.
@alanmitchell7322
@alanmitchell7322 Год назад
Very good work well explained and very interesting.
@bvalt1
@bvalt1 Год назад
So much fun to see how the pieces all come together!!
@cliftonwilliams639
@cliftonwilliams639 Год назад
There is a coach in Holbrook Arizona that is on top of a store front that you might be able to get some pictures from maybe some one in Holbrook might send you looks like same type of coach you are working on I might be wrong
@zedhead2864
@zedhead2864 Год назад
This sure is an interesting project, Dave. Really enjoying this series. Also: Amazing shots on the intro/outro!
@johnsnoek9112
@johnsnoek9112 Год назад
Forensic making, brilliant!
@MarcvanExel
@MarcvanExel Год назад
It's a very interesting rebuild and I'm convinced you will bring it to a good end. Have a great weekend!
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 Год назад
You're doing a great job making sure everything fits and the job will look original. That's art work Dave. Fantastic !! It won't be much longer. Stay safe and keep up the great videos and the fun too. Fred.
@simonmcowan6874
@simonmcowan6874 Год назад
Wonderful to watch how it is coming together.
@dumitruadriannas8889
@dumitruadriannas8889 Год назад
🇲🇩 foarte frumoase lucrări faceți succes in continuare
@richardbrobeck2384
@richardbrobeck2384 Год назад
Nice work with the Coach!
@hasletjoe5984
@hasletjoe5984 Год назад
Why do I get the feeling that the pencil marks are only for folks like me to see what you are doing? Love that early version of loctite (Peening nut)! Watch another channel with a fella similar to you. He is restoring an old hotel. Uses a lot of the same skills as you. Same mannerisms too. Even looks a bit like you! Thank you for all your hard work making these videos.
@charliebryson1285
@charliebryson1285 Год назад
will your brother in law ever be making any more videos on the lamps, really enjoyed watching those also?
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 Год назад
I think he's planning to at some point.
@georgescott1180
@georgescott1180 Год назад
Since that patch was needed, I would recommend a stronger steel and a few more screws to prevent the problem that required a repair. Just a suggestion. Really enjoy your videos. Thank you
@donaldjohnson5633
@donaldjohnson5633 Год назад
Or just not wreck the coach after...
@keithbrowning3899
@keithbrowning3899 Год назад
@@donaldjohnson5633 Centre of gravity is high with the driver and his mate so far off the ground. Is that why it turned over/crashed.
@cyrilhudak4568
@cyrilhudak4568 Год назад
It's a parade wagon.
@payntpot7623
@payntpot7623 Год назад
Heads up watchers; this is Nuts (and Bolts) and will have you seeing double and diving for cover (pairs of Bolt Holes). The only thing it does not get down to is Brass Tacks (yet......)
@stevep3840
@stevep3840 Год назад
You can be called the Sherlock Holmes of Carriage and Wagon building. Great work. Fun watch.
@brucemeller2794
@brucemeller2794 Год назад
Loving these videos, Dave. Thank you.
@mrsbobbinlacer
@mrsbobbinlacer Год назад
Thank you for the video it is so interesting to watch your thought process in fixing something correctly.
@jacilynns6330
@jacilynns6330 Год назад
Dave I’m curious about that usual hammer you have. I also think that one of the handles was a replacement while the other is original. Just a guess but I bet someone thought that having the handles horizontal instead of vertical would be used as a step to get to roof. Using all the evidence presented I can make a guess at what happened. This was designed as a people carrier, with luggage on the back. Not a large amount of weight. Over time cargo was put on top of the carriage tied down somehow. This increased the wieght carried and eventually the rear axle gave way or the wheels. That made the back crash down hard bending the undercarriage. As well as wrecking a few things. A local blacksmithy probably got it repaired enough to get the driver home with a few extras to help prevent it from falling apart and making it easier for top cargo to be loaded and unloaded. Probably got used for awhile like that till a better coach made for people and cargo came along. Or a train or boat and was sold to someone else as a farm type wagon, kinda like old vans are used on farms. Eventually being used in its final days as a novelty parade type thing till it was beyond easy repair left to rot to dust. I would not be surprised if it had, at one point, lamps or places for hurricane lamps.
@chuckthomas8176
@chuckthomas8176 Год назад
Great !
@winstonsmith9740
@winstonsmith9740 Год назад
Speed and skill. A lost combination. The jigsaw of old weathered timber is straight-out "wabi-sabi" art BTW, certainly worth keeping - would make an interesting wall hanging.
@JAdams-jx5ek
@JAdams-jx5ek Год назад
Doing good work.
@rodneywroten2994
@rodneywroten2994 Год назад
thanks for sharing
@drbichat5229
@drbichat5229 Год назад
Great job as usual
@flywayhome8903
@flywayhome8903 Год назад
Once again thanks for the video.
@waynespyker5731
@waynespyker5731 Год назад
Uniformity........ Solves the secrets!
@Convoycrazy
@Convoycrazy Год назад
I know it’s too late by now but 🤔 what if the front braces were mounted that 3/8 to 1/2” higher on the box? And the diagonals re-adjusted? Looks great!
@donaldelrod9172
@donaldelrod9172 Год назад
interesting puzzle of pieces and parts. sorta like doing a jig saw puzzle without the picture to follow for clues.
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