Fine Tune a Recurve Bow | Get Better Groups with Fine Tuning Recurve | Archery Tuning Series Ep 11 

FYI fine tune at the distance that matters most to you. If you are shooting 70m rounds do it there. For indoors shoot at least 30 arrows per change on new target faces and turn them over to see your group spread. Field archers I’d do it at the longest distance.

This is the easiest fine tuning demonstration I have seen in a long time. Great job.

Finally I understand what my coach was doing with my bow. 😂. It changed my ring from 7 to 8.5 at 50m.

Thanks Jake .. You are great!!

Thanks Jake, always thrilled to watch your videos!

Again, awesome video Jake, will try this tomorrow!

Now this! Is what Im looking for... Thanks Jake

Well done Jake. After several videos you are relaxing into your own personal style of presentation. It comes over very well and you have a clear and honest way of communicating.

This is fantastic great to see some one that has shot at top level giving out free advice / help etc top points champ

Thank you Jake for sharing your knowledge with the archery community. Your no nonsense way of describing obscure and difficult things (like plunger tension) is just awesome.

Great video, well done

Hi Jake. Nice explanation about horizontal and vertical tuning. Very expeditious and practical method. I will optimize my tuning process! Thank you.

Thanks Jake, this is brilliant something just clicked during your explanation. Can't wait for the range to open tomorrow.

was expecting somethig like that on the plunger video and got disapointed a little, but now i'm really happy. Thnx for this and I'll try this afternoon.

Brilliant 👍 video aswome thanks Jake

Brilliant information video Jake, love it, that fine method tuning I will definitely be using, and I ll let you know how it pans out. Keep these going, defs the best out there in youtube land 😁

Great Video...thanks!!!

That is supreme! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I will try this technique, but my button is not so friendly to adjust.

Archery and archery's laws lay hid in night. God said "let Jake be" and all was light. Please keep it coming and please hurry up and sell me your new tuning book and app.

How about a video on how to set up a recurve sight out of the box. This is one of the things I struggled with when just starting.

Very awesome and helpful video. Does the sight ever become a part of fine tuning? If so when?

Hi Jake, could you please repeat how you'll adjust and compensate the change applied on the rest position? Like in the video, if for instance you incrementally lowered the rest to narrowdown the vertical dispersion, the tip of the plunger now would touch the top half side of the arrow shaft, thus how do you get the tip to be placed again in the middle of the arrow? Just by moving up the nocking point ? Thanks!!

Will be interesting when you try this for barebow - you also want to hit where you aim (at all distances) - not always so simple when also fine tuning...

Hi Jake, wonderful video again. Can you teach to make temporary nocks that we can screw up and down the serving to adjust nock heights. That would be very useful I think here as an alternative to raising rest height.

Hi Jake - I'm relatively new to the sport and benefiting hugely by following your tutorials. I shoot barebow. Would you please explain how changing the plunger pressure spreads/reduces the group size rather than simply moving the group left or right. I'm probably missing something so appreciate your patience here 🙂 thx sir.

Great guide. In my club we have indoor only 18 meter targets. Do do thing is to do Fine Tune a Recurve Bow in 18 meter. Can it be less? as 10 meter?

Is this method finding also the center shot? At least the right -left? Walking back tuning and this modify the same. Don't they?

Jake, you mentioned not adjusting things like brace and tiller during this process. Does this assume/recommend a neutral tiller and also that center shot is already set? Thanks for the deluge of helpful videos!

A hypothesis on how Fine-Tuning achieves better groups despite seemingly deviating from the Perfect Tune: The Perfect Tune has the most forgiveness, as the bareshaft arrow flight is equivalent to the fletched arrow, thus the fletchings have the maximum capacity of arrow flight correction potential (highest margin of forgiveness). However, this margin of forgiveness is distributed evenly along the vertical and horizontal axes of the arrow flight. It is likely that the archer's technique itself has a biased error distribution. For example, maybe the archer tends to expand through the clicker a little bit too hastily when under pressure, causing minor increases in draw-length and subsequently increases the dynamic draw weight, resulting in a weak-high bias in the grouping pattern. Theoretically, Fine-Tuning would then find that a slightly stiffer plunger and a slightly higher nocking point (or slightly lower arrow rest position) would have the best groupings - these two adjustments are basically compensating for the weak-high grouping bias. So overall, Fine-Tuning reduces the margin of forgiveness (due to deviating from the Perfect Tune), but redistributes it according to the error bias of the archer, providing the most forgiveness when it counts for the archer, and therefore results in better groupings. Just theory-crafting, no evidence nor citations.

That was a great lesson on fine tuning. The marker is difficult to see. I would like to suggest a fatter marker

great video's.. i'm just starting at the age of 70,and am limited to a max of 20m. i'm starting with 25" riser and 22lb limbs to start with. with this method still be ok at 10 and 20m to start with ?

Thank you Jake. Great video again. But a question. If I move my rest up or down wont it be problem for the center pressing by the plunger? Is better if I move the nocking point up/down or not?

Also like some one said to me archery is not judged on style etc only where the arrows hit so it dosent matter if your arrows do loops etc if they hit the 10 thats all it counts. Like to saying if the arrows are hiting where your aim / wanting for the them to hit thats all that counts

I am so shocked, I never would have considered adjusting the rest height, I always assumed that the arrow should be flush in the center of the plunger button

Hello Jake, I really appreciate your videos mate, brilliant, thankyou! I am having a problem with arrows consistency hitting right ( I'm a right handed barebow shooter) and wonder if I should adjust my sideplate out? My arrows are slightly stiff now so maybe byhaving a close to centre shot setup is causing this issue? Cheers, Jason

Great advice here Jake! Is it normal to have to change the fine tune every few weeks? EX the tune achieved one day not being as perfect a few weeks down the line. Just asking of my own experience where I'd have an amazing tune one day, and requiring more and never ending adjusting to keep perfect? Thanks.

I did tuning like this on compound and one additional thing I did was number the arrows so that I could identify if I had arrow that might be bad, consistently shooting outside the group, of course, I would not look at the number while loading the arrow so as not to influence the shot. I would on occasion find this to be a factor. What is your thoughts on that.

One thing I’m always hearing with setup videos is hearing ‘adjust plunger’ all the time, however, I still haven’t heard where should we start From? Is it weakest to strongest? Start with a certain spring dependant on spine and draw weight?

Hi jake, I have a question regarding tuning, I used to shoot 42 lbs with 500 arrow spine, but problems happened and i had to shoot with 40 lbs. The things is that i am unable to properly tune my bareshaft,my bareshaft fly so left compare to the fletched arrow.So I had to scratch the method and only tune the fletched arrow to ensure it fly straight without having to adjust left or right on sight on all distance. So if i want to do the fine tuning, will it work out for my arrow? since I noticed that the method only involved plunger and arrow rest without adjusting tiller or brace height. Thank you

Jake, How can I get your books on tuning

Jake, you mentioned adding and subtracting clicks to the plunger button. Would this be the tension or left/right setting? Thank you for your very informative videos.

Have you ever considered using lower limb poundage?

Hi Jake, if you have a tight group but they are left of the gold rather than central would you suggest simply moving the sight or adjusting the centreshot? Thanks

I really wish you practice this on 70m if possible and we really want to see from soft to stiff pluger groups

Sir Which limbs is best for 70 meter?

Jake. I nievly always assumed that the best arrow flight would produce the tightest groups. Apparently that is not the case. Do you have a theory to explain why? Thanks in advance. Learning a ton here.

Hi Jake! Wouldnt be better if we calculate the standard deviation of the arrow positions on each axis (y for up and down or x left to right) using the data from an app like "My targets"?

Jake do you tune your bow in this manner before tuning your arrows? At what stage in the process do you consider one’s string choice? I appreciate your comments.

If you're wondering what that diagram is called, its a bell curve diagram.

I think I managed to follow what you were saying about rest/nocking point, but is it possible for you to actually demonstrate?

Can you not with that thumbnail?