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Finishing Secondary Transmission.... Mini 4WD Trophy Truck Project - Part 9

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With this project we are taking chain drive to the next level and seeing how well it works with 4WD and large 32" tires. I've had great success with the chain drive setup on the CBR1000 buggy so with this project I want to build it again but this time we are making it 4WD with big 32" tires and its a two seater. we are using a T90 transmission as a transfer case to give us high/medium/low range and reverse.
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@aapo0881 Год назад

legend says there is over mile of chain in that thing !!

@BrendaGibson-ys6qn Год назад

I have heard that too!

@mg-bx6bi Год назад

You're doing what you like, what's interesting, and what's different. You're not proto-typing a production vehicle. I love your projects.

@TSRGarage Год назад

Another work of art. That is an impressive drive line. The alignment of the cross brace may not be technically perfect, but it looks great and will definitely get the job done. I hope all watching appreciate the time,effort, and thought that has gone into this build. Not to mention the extra time to set up cameras and edit these outstanding videos. Finally, does it have a name? Mr. T 🤔 for all the gold chains, lol. Great work.

@csloat9396 Год назад

Yes! all unique projects need a name

@drekislav Год назад

With this amount of exposed chains it must be "Finger destroyer"

@brianellison3525 Год назад

Wow lotta hate on the guy for doin his thing. He's comfortable with chains. Build yours your way. Be well all. 👍

@sjv6598 Год назад

The amount of chains on that thing is both impressive and also mighty hilarious at the same time.

@tomjohns8498 Год назад

Sadly I'm really enjoying this build 😋 with the amount of chains ⛓️ you have made a MR T ⛓️

@ThePippin89 Год назад

- "How many chains does your truck have?" - "Yes!" 😂 Loving the work man. Can't wait to see it finished.

@michaelblacktree Год назад

It's all good. Keep doing your thing, and we'll keep watching.

@hannable3871 Год назад

Noting better on Super Bowl sunday than a video drop from Rather B Welding.

@firepinto Год назад

Chains will just add character to this beast. Plus a field service kit would be simple.

@rhyswoodman6781 Год назад

As a perfectionist myself, watching you machine things is the perfect antidote to imperfection anxiety.

@kable698 Год назад

The best Inventions aren't created without experimenting

@kirkeverett295 Год назад

There’s an ungodly amount of chains in this thing😂 curious to see how loud they all are when it’s finally driving

@stevehamilton9418 Год назад

I’m curious too!

@charlesirby9222 Год назад

It's going to have it's own VIBE!

@kizzmiaz Год назад

It's a flail on wheels. 🤣

@josephglazier3286 Год назад

i wonder what 100lbs of chain sound like at 2000 rpm? lol

@jeolman1 Год назад

so many points of failure, too many chains IMO. So much power loss due to all the chains, etc. etc. Pardon the pun but too many weak links!

@dooglo9346 Год назад

You do great builds with great ideas. Really think you need to get away from chain drives though. Seen your work with machining and welding axels. You can do it

@geoffburrill9850 Год назад

Yes it is complicated but I completely understand where you are coming from and it will be utterly amazing when it is finished, so keep up the good work.

@BraxxJuventa Год назад

Thanks for filming Chris. 👍😁

@josealmeida8731 Год назад

Another cold Sunday, and there you are

@scoutsapp5624 Год назад

I love watching you work hard on these things, it’s so fun to watch how you problem solve.

@treehouseoffroad Год назад

Both Mr. T and Slick Rick would approve of all these gold chains! I pity the fool that can't think outside the box!

@johngordonhouchen1312 Год назад

The opening shot I thought it's got more chains than Jimmy savile ! .admire your work and your stuff does work so why not

@SeanKarleone Год назад

Coming along nicely!

@scottmork9598 Год назад

Your introduction to chain stretch is going to be soul crushing.

@HitchHiker4Freedom Год назад

I'm a fan of experimentations like this. Never know til you try.👍

@brunobarks6544 Год назад

And...... Fade to black. Lol. Thanks for another great video. 👍

@nazoe83 Год назад

*💪 yess.. go, finishim Chris . .*

@bigdaddy741098 Год назад

Well people can build it differently when they build their Own off-road vehicle. I'm here to see how You do it and to see how well it works, and how much fun you have building it and figuring it all out, and then how fun it is to rip around.

@Ozzieseth Год назад

This dude can fab stuff like no tomorrow and he does it out of his garage. I’ve had some people try to machine stuff for me in fully built workshops and this guy could’ve done a way better job

@tillmanxl6914 Год назад

I like it! 👍🏻 Keep up the great work! There is always going to be a critic don't worry about it. 😊👍🏻

@Karl90C1500 Год назад

You're machining skills and way of approaching things is inspiring.

@dopeexterminatr2248 Год назад

thank you for your videos, im having a really hard time right now and your videos are an escape for me, theres only ine other chanel that does what you do and they rarely upload. i genuinly appreciate your effort in every project and episode you make

@EdwardMurray06 Год назад

Next project I’d like to see something road legal, but off road capable. Preferably with differentials and axels, lol I get it though and it’s fun to experiment with stuff. The main thing I’d be worried about is how loud that machine will be when you factor in exhaust, chain noise and everything else. I’ve had this complaint for years, but if the powersports industry would research and deploy less loud exhaust systems, there would be less people complaining about them. Inexperienced people think loud = fast which is hardly true.

@micaiahbecker9649 Год назад

This buggy has more features than I have problems. Truly insanity bro. Love the vids.

@diegomontoya1900 Год назад

LOW RAGE!!! As usual, awesome work, looking forward to seeing this beast in action!

@ThunderDivine Год назад

That's why you do it, cause its never been done before. - Absolutely insane how uve progressed tru the years. You have a great shop now. - This is absolutely your sickest build yet.

@AlteredCarbons Год назад

i love the trial and error testing man. its really fun watching what you think of for solutions.

@spartacus9852 Год назад

LOOKS NICE. I'M EXCITED FOR THIS PROJECT👍. I THINK YOU NEED TO AD SOME MORE CHAINS🤣

@Silverlyx Год назад

Another approach may be to use a diff (locked) at the drive on the pivot point, and attach sprockets to the ends (one off a small 4x4 for driving front). Then you could put the engine and transfer box in a straight line onto the input shaft … But that’s some thinking getting all the chains working 👍👍

@jstephenallington8431 Год назад

On every build you do, I can see your fabrication skills just keep going up and up, you're definitely an inspirational worker. I would just point out that you don't absolutely need to use round tubing on the entire frame, (which you don't, I can say) you can incorporate more flat bar, u-channel, t-bar etc. etc. Fantastic work Chris, truly awesome!

@suzbox1829 Год назад

Hi, I like the videos,great workmanship to get everything squared up and done right. I have notice in some spots with the chains slack,it seems that the tensioner will have to be on the torque side (top part of the chain) of the chain. Tensioners should allways be on the bottom (slack side) to avoid tensioner wear.

@mooversspeedshop Год назад

Depends on which side the driving side is. The tensioner on the top, of the engine to transfer case chain is on the low tension side

@nateham92 Год назад

awesome work with the secondary gearbox. nice to see the chain tension adjustment across that main shaft work out! on a unrelate note the placement on those two air ducts on the front of the air box. is very convenient! as most of the bikes that motors like this come IE (most 600cc-1000cc super bike engines) use fresh air ducts on the front fairing area to direct a bit of air to the box and create a bit of pressure. faster you go..... more dense the air gets going into that air box. food for thought. but there is plenty of room to get some ducts to those inlets down the road! also a bit of a snorkel for off roading! great work! love the videos

@The1withlogic Год назад

All those chains look like something out of an 80’s horror film.

@tsstsstsstsstsstss Год назад

Those gold chains! I second "Mr. T" as a name for the build. Also, put a tennis ball on that gear lever before you put an eye out! 😄

@jamesarnold6059 Год назад

Straight up wizardry.

@GodschildinNC Год назад

Great build as allways. I am with you on the trailing arms and chains, so much cooler than buying CV axles. Just need to keep them covered when running.

@musicauthority7828 Год назад

I noticed that you used pillow blocks on the input and output shafts on that transmission. I swear by pillow blocks they are very strong, and very adjustable, and they are grease able, and they are reasonably priced. I have only one concern now that its starting to come together. the amount of bars used in the frame and rollcage are starting to add up. and it's making me curious about it having a weight problem. especially in the area of HP to weight ratio. and you might have to add some guides on the longer sections of chain, to reduce chain wrap up. otherwise I don't see any other issues. I worked in a muffler shop, and occasionally I would have to build roll cages for the circle track cars. that run at the local track. and from what I could tell your frame and cage is looking good.

@davidowen888 Год назад

Phenomenal Machinist skills 👏 👌 this rides gonna be EPIC 🤓☮️ oh room for a gusset there on that X tube by the trailing arms that didn't make it to bottom🤏

@bigjim8088 Год назад

A trepanning tool would help you a whole lot on the lathe. You could save a lil bit of material with it too.

@leadgindairy3709 Год назад

For sure, instead of just turning it all to chips. Lol

@chiwuikeugochukwu7532 Год назад

I really do hope you add doors .. It's coming up beautifully 👍

@joelarson3528 Год назад

Yes chainy but for sure a talented guy🤘

@andersson.l.e Год назад

It's coming together nicely.

@maxtendo9505 Год назад

What an insanely cool build! I can only imagine what you could do with a CNC laithe/mill.

@anit15012 Год назад

600k + subs. Doing something right! March on brother!

@rreyesco Год назад

This is a great project! Though might be a little too heavy and complicated.. a solid axle in the back and a diff in the front with the engine up centered drive by a single chain does the trick.. wayy lighter simple and cheaper!! But good luck men its still phenomenal work!

@wolfparty4234 Год назад

Your last closing clip was like you were reading my mind…!! Weird!😂

@coolfrost6 Год назад

The upside too all the chains is that after the transmission you can lose 2 out of 3 chains and still have power to some wheels.

@insAneTunA Год назад

I watched a video about a guy who bought a 6x6 amphibious ATV by Amphicat built in the 70's, and it had a similar looking drive train with multiple chains and axels and sprockets. It was about 50 years old, and it still worked like a charm. It needs to be said that those amphinious 6 wheel ATV's don't drive really fast. But you might conclude that if it still works after 50 years that it is a proven concept.

@scottmork9598 Год назад

A proven concept in a low horsepower application with minimal shock loading. This is not going to end well.

@christopherallen9615 Год назад

This build is really exciting! I'm still terrified of the grundtal munching chains LOL. I'm sure is extremely strong as this is being built though they'll be tons of train tunnels. At any rate, I hope this field goes viral cuz it is lit! It looks like it is built like a tank! The size of it with the giant tires is going to make it look lit!

@JimRyan-AKA-Pigeon_Kicker Год назад

You might have to use a pinch style tension mechanism where you have lessened chain slap while you apply throttle and let off the throttle. I mean think about it, you're mashing on the torque then reversing that torque every time. A floating compression style tensioner will let the chain adjust itself to the forward and reverse torque while maintaining your set chain tension. In theory I guess, if you follow my thoughts.

@airgunningyup Год назад

a simple solution when you find a random highspot and want to narrow it down is to put the part bewteen centers. this eliminates the chuck from the equation , especially if you make a center in the chuck and leave it there to hold the work ( because you have now machined the new center exactly 0 on the spindle axis )

@future-matze-35 Год назад

Keep up the great work! Doing what you do, experimenting, not following the usual path makes it interesting and fun to follow/watch.

@leaningr Год назад

WOW, that is a lot of chains!!!

@TuttleScott Год назад

I used to have an old polaris atv with chains all over the for 4wd and it seemed strange but it was super easy for a home user to work on.

@MotoMattMania Год назад

The abrupt ending 🤣☠️

@EliteRock Год назад

Something people might be missing is that unlike the chains on bikes, the tension on those on this machine (and Chris's previous builds) don't vary with suspension movement because the pivots and drive sprockets are concentric, and that's much easier on them.

@fullmetaljacket7 Год назад

Regardless, way too many chains. Convoluted, noisy, unreliable, dangerous. It's time to move on from the go-kart mentality.

@EliteRock Год назад

@@fullmetaljacket7 I suspect you're not an engineer or even a mechanic.

@fullmetaljacket7 Год назад

@@EliteRock Mechanic. One doesn't have to be an engineer to realize how ridiculous that setup is.

@EliteRock Год назад

@@fullmetaljacket7 Cut/paste of a reply further down; _"Very inefficient setup for sure ..."_ No, actually. Even in less than optimal condition chains are intrinsically very efficient, _more_ so than gears, particularly bevels such as in diffs which generate a lot of side-thrust internally. Obviously losses increase with wear and loss of lubrication, but o-ring chains can withstand high loads for high mileages without much degradation. Some people must be gauging their efficiency from dried-out, crusty chains on neglected kid's bicycles.

@fullmetaljacket7 Год назад

@@EliteRock And you must be gauging their efficiency based on a motorcycle that uses ONE single chain, not a bunch of them, together with tensioners, bearing blocks and whatnot. Not to mention, he's gonna have a lot of fun adjusting all of them after each ride after he learns chain stretch is a thing. If chains were ideal for such application, 4x4's would use them instead of driveshafts.

@benscootin4329 Год назад

Next video is going to be so satisfying. Love this build

@roadboogalabuilds5318 Год назад

Lookin good, I like the experimenting, that set up seems to work amazing on the CBR 1000!

@tcmits3699 Год назад

Very interesting video. Just a friendly suggestion, did you ever consider using (front wheel drive splined hub bearings) mounted to your input and output plates on the stckshift trans there-by supporting your input and output shafts and sprockets mounted to the 4 or 5 stud hub. Would "just" have to take trans splined collars turned down to fit bored out wheel hub splines, then welded. Than again maybe not, good luck 🤞 thanks for sharing 🙂

@acurarl9929 Год назад

I like the complicated set up of chains. I would love to see you swap chains and sprockets for belts and pulleys. Just think it would be nice an quiet and super smooth

@Mad.Man.Marine Год назад

Awesome content man!! Love this build in particular! Heads up. If you want a better finish with no filing on regular and mildly hard steels. Use high speed steel. Carbide is awesome and my biggest lathe is fully set up with it. But on a tool room size lathe you really aren’t pushing the carbide hard enough to get a great finish. A nice honed h.s.s. Will give a spectacular finish on steel 90% of the time. Especially critical if you are running a lip seal or o ring on the surface.

@caseybinion806 Год назад

Awesome bud it is getting there can’t wait to see it at ride high keep up the good work 👍😎

@jetink600 Год назад

It is what it is! 👏🏾

@chrisdenman2847 Год назад

@rather B welding , might be a good time for a sprocket tensioner where tensioners are used. With 4WD and reverse, plastic rollers may not deal with that very well. Food for thought at least. Love all your builds!

@robertallison4623 Год назад

Great job take ur time. It's gonna be fine 🙂

@brucebasil4164 Год назад

Compliments and praise x 100

@michaelmays9292 Год назад

There's 3 dudes id love to see compete thats on you tube ,grind hard plumbing ,this guy ,and visual builds i think thats the name ,the dude that broke his leg on one of his builds them 3 guys guys ,would love them all build tge same thing and put what they build through its paces

@kmikem78 Год назад

Vasily Builds* :)

@Kingjotfif Год назад

Perfect spot for a PTO for hydraulic jacks it isthe trophy truck after all

@tristanmcnabb2741 Год назад

Allsome work Chris looking really good 👌😁🎉🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 from cruzermans inventions

@dukiemoto8676 Год назад

You keep doing what you do, It’s freakin’ awesome👏

@michaelcrebbin7328 Год назад

Loving the build that drivetrain is gonna be awesome great job 🥰🥰

@EliteRock Год назад

Dayamn, that passed quick!

@bobkelly2447 Год назад

I think you did the output of the 2ndary trans totally wrong ! Yes you can get away with it with your washer/spacers BUT you took away from the convenience of just loosening the bolts and moving the transmition back and forth to adjust it.... mount that outside bearing horizontally like the other side man ! no washers needed then ! Regardless... fantastic build man ! and great machining too you are getting extreamily good at that stuff now ! you surpassed this old man years ago ! GOOD WORK ! I love your videos ! keep it up !

@bryduhbikeguy Год назад

It's coming together nicely.Rock solid even ;) Lathe speed faster,and cut slow for polished surface.Can't wait for the mountain runs.

@larrydavidson3402 Год назад

Absolutely fantastic job on this build Chris.

@roninkenbrandt6745 Год назад

Beautiful! Great work. Love that lathe. Keep up the good work I’m really enjoying this build!

@MarkCarr331 Год назад

That doesn't look complicated at all 😅

@djmjr77 Год назад

The all purpose drill bits work well in hardened material and stainless which can work harden.. Bosch makes a good set..

@shanewendt4595 Год назад

When you do your chain tensioner maybe use a gear on the chain rather than a roller like on the cbr1000

@ScruffieWilliamsburg Год назад

I bet you could build an incredible Rube Goldberg machine.

@051570orion Год назад

I think it looks cool , and creative, you always do good work 👍

@Henrik.Yngvesson Год назад

When you cut out the sprockets you could rough cut on the plasma first so you only have to clean up on the lathe.

@bubster1981 Год назад

Thread the upper left hand side of your band saw vice and use a bolt and jam nut instead of spacers all the time

@yusufabdrahman592 Год назад

So good ii boss part10 👌👌💪💪👍👍✌️✌️

@Natshorts Год назад

Love your builds!! Wish I had half the talent that you do!!

@acurarl9929 Год назад

Tap threads in sprocket an then you can use short bolts an no nuts. Have just as much threads as the nuts have. And it be lighter an cleaner look. An good idea on the tensioners as the bolts will slide over time with out one. Nice wrk. Would been nice to have both pillow block bearing going the same way so you can adjust tension on the fly vrs the washers/shims witch is not as user friendly

@sjv6598 Год назад

The sprocket is hardened, cutting threads would be tough or impossible.

@wags9777 Год назад

Pretty sweet build. the only problem I see is you're trying to push chain. The connection from the motor to the transmission Is pushing the chain. It'll work fine in reverse. going forward might be a different story even with a tensioner.

@fuzielectron5172 Год назад

Loving your build Chris. In an extra video by a visitor you mentioned turbo or supercharging in the future, confess to hoping this happens. Have you looked at belt driven Rotary Superchargers, a few videos on the internet showing them opened and the planetary gears inside, a serious machining challenge taking a blown turbo unit and using the cold side mated to a homemade drive system just a thought.

@hemibreath Год назад

I know you wanted low range etc. BUT I built a biggie years ago “before RU-vid” I chopped the gear box off the bottom of an old outboard to make a forward/reverse gear box ! It also gave me 90* box. HP and RPM no problem Much lighter to! Just to put a idea bug in yer ear 😆

@andis10000 Год назад

we need more chains. the future is in chains. but seriously, they will stretch in such severe conditions. for me, a single chain in a buggy already gives me a headache

@micflynn1 Год назад

Chris the thing that people don't understand then aren't mechanically inclined is with the setup you have if you break one to change on the rear-drive you still got one will pull them also the disadvantage of a CV joint and the advantage of using sprockets is you can always change the sprockets out and get different mechanical advantage different gear ratios you can't do that with a fixed gear box with CV axles....