Finnish Mosin-Nagant Variants 

"Not to offend any russian viewers, but the reality is many russian weapons are crude, effective and reliable" I'm not so much as offended, but as proud about that fact

My mosin shoots quarter size groups at a thousand yards, makes me breakfast in the the mornings and does my taxes.

Don't handle mosins like a mauser. The action is quite different. For a mauser it's a simple turn-pull-push-turn sequence. Due to the angled cam surface on a mosins reciever it will stick like glue if you rotate the bolt straight up. You have to start pulling on the bolt even before it's fully unlocked. The motion is as if you want to strike your left shoulder with your right and in a big arc. If you do that, it works almost effortlessly. Similarly wgen you're on the forward stroke, you start pushing the bolthandle to the side as soon as you're near that same surface. I had a 1952 made soviet M44 and that thing worked smooth as butter when i handled it correctly. Just a friendly little advice from switzerland :) hope it works out for you when you shoot a mosin next time.

Thanks for still releasing this video even if you had to cut it a lot because of the noises! SLAP THAT BOLT!

My antique M39 has a super smooth Bolt but I think it was put together by somebody that was drunk because the front sight and the back sight and the barrel are all canted different from each other relative to the receiver flat

I took me until the end of the video to realize that this was a InRange video, and not a Forgotten Weapons video. I thought Karl was making a guest appearance.

Good to see the Finns didn't get rid of the sticky bolt. Even my own personal Finish Mosin has a sticky bolt. Something just never change LOL

Special thanks to Karl: "Take the crude out!" - I wouldn't put it better myself. If you want something more refined from a Russian design - just give it to the Finnish Master (builder, mechanic, whatever...). It is not even a Russian Master is in any way inferior to the Finnish Master - the thing is, Russian Master doesn't really see the problem in crudeness. And MN was not supposed to be "the greatest Russian rifle in History" - it was set to retire by 1920s. 3 wars made it into legend - not a design itself (there were lots of complaints out-there even before the Russo-Japanese War). Thanks, guys, appreciated.

I want to make a clever comment, but I haven't Finnished the video yet.

Hay guys, maybe the Finns are on to something. It's not the rifle it's the man.

Great editing considering the surrounding. 😊

This showed up on my recommended feed nicely. It's 13th of March, it's the 80th anniversary of the ending of Winter War, and Winter War had Simo Häyhä, who used an M/28-30 Mosin Nagant.

Jeewiz InRangeTV uploads before forgotten weapons? How interesting

I'm confused. Why the sudden videos about spurdo weaponry first in Forgotten Weapons and now here? It's still good content

Is this old footage from the last time you guys were in Finland or do you guys just keep flying back and forth?

Super interesting! Thanks!

5:59 "This is Simo's rifle I was told, which means I'm going to miss everything because there's no Russians downrage."

What you forgot is the Tkiv 85 which is a sniper variant of the Mosin Nagan and still in service.

All hail Simo Häyhä.

1930 M27 , heavy barrel, modified rear sight, modified winged front sight Finnish 2 piece stock, new barrel bands. Proud to own, also 1934 and 1943 M91s. Cool ole rifles, I often wonder about the men who carried these into battle. If these could talk. Nice video.

Great to see more video from your trip. I was lucky enough to get my hands on a beautiful 41 SAKO barreled m39 and absolutely love it. Head and shoulders above any other Mosin I've handled.

Note: Improved marksmanship. And it is fitted with a type of three point sling. Didn't someone say 'Cut into pices and throw away?' I was always taught to wrap mysupport arm through the sling, it stabalises the rifle and does give better accuracy.

Thank you at 0:57 for saving my ears.

"You manhandle mosins." Yeah you do. I remember the first time I ever held one, I couldn't get the damn thing to open. Not sure why I thought it would just come open like the Swedish Mauser I'd been shooting earlier that day, I'd heard about their reputation.

Every now and then you can find a mosin with a decent bolt. Working with them some can especially help. I've gotten my M39 to a pretty slick point. It's still a mosin and was sticky with hard extraction when I first got it but after working with it a bit its smooth now. It's no Enfield but significantly better than youd expect from a mosin

That'd beat my hand to pieces slapping that bolt handle, but at least you know it is getting the job done.

I'm guessing it's just the shadows fucking with the color balance, but every once in awhile the grass behind them starts changing colors. Looks like they're shooting rifles in Wonderland or something.

I have an M39, and it is my favorite rifle in my collection.

My M39 has a fairly smooth bolt, even my Russian 91/30 is pretty decent. The Finnish Mosin has a better trigger but still shoots very high at 100 yards.

InRangeTV Ian, you should do a Polish mosin m44. Extremely high quality mosin's.

I have a question I have just received a 1932 finish M27 and I have heard that they fire the 7.62×53r but I want to know if I can safley shoot the Russian 7.62×54r is there any difference because I've heard it's safe but I want you're opinion on it and I would greatly appreciate any assistance

Great video. But what about covering the M24?

Love my m27 ski pole!

Can you do a video of why the Mosin-Nagant falls short of its contemporaries?

were did yall find the beyonette for the M39! i want one sooooooo bad for my M39!

Ah, the joys of filming on a live firing range :P

That was the ONLY complaint I had on the Mosin 98/30. I wanted a bit of 4x4 to work the bolt, lol.

beat that bolt like it owed you money!

Will you guys be releasing Red October 2017 stage videos?

Hyvä 😊 . suomalainen sotilaskivääri palveli hyvin toisessa maailmansodassa.....hyvä ase .

Very interesting about that horrible stiff bolt. I have a Finn 91, Finn 91/30, A M27, and four M39's and they all have very easy to use bolts (for a Mosin). Usually the Finns chose bolt parts that fit and functioned quite well, then just re-numbered the bolt handle. Maybe some parts got swapped on that one over the years....or needs some work/cleaning. All Mosin bolts definitely have issues related to the design, but ones as bad as that one are rare on a Finn in my experience.

i should have bought a dozen M-39's from Classic :( i did buy one beautiful Sako 1942 M-39 though that i call the magic Mosin cause at 200 yd.'s it's boring shooting at a 12" gong. looks brand new all the metal and stock that once i cleaned all the cosmoline i finished with BLO . The strap i soaked with Ballistol and brought it back to new condition. really all Finnish rifles are excellent even the new bolt rifles shoot well. only limitation is my eyes shooting with irons :) 54r milsurp ammo has gone threw the roof now but the new non-corrosive stuff is still cheaper than most .30cal. ammo. got lucky and have 2 cases of brass non-mag. Yugo 54r that i don't want to use. lol.......good video.......

Perkele bepis :DDdDD Obligatory Finnish shitposting comment, scroll on.

Killer info but the white balance shift on this video made me think someone slipped something in my lunch, haha.

The bolt sounds a lot smoother than a regular mosin, did they tweak those at all?

use the sling to steady our aim

Lol your video saturation is freaking out

I have a 1928 Tikka M27 (D marked twice) in a M28 stock marked SYT on the right finger groove (early hinged nose cap). It does not have wings on the matching bolt or the machined slots in the receiver (they stopped this in 33’??). There is no splice in the stock and no SA mark anywhere the barrel or receiver. What gives?

Are the hex receiver Mosins smooth with their action, or are they also just as bad as war time Mosins?

Does anyone know what range the M39's were zeroed at when they were assembled? I wonder because the only rounds I have shot through mine hit about a foot and a half to two feet higher than point of aim at 100 yards.

I must have a Finish mosin for my collection of mosins.

I guess I just got lucky with my m39 then. The bolt on mine was as smooth as my 1940 k98k. Stupid accurate too. 1-2 Moa out of it off of a bench.

FINNISH!!!!!!!!

Maybe they're hard to cycle because the parts have swelled in the non-Finnish-winter heat. They might work better when it's 30 below.

You could say the Mosin truely... FINNISH-ed... its evolution with the m39

Front sights on Finnish Mosin Nagant are nicknamed the Spitz because they resemble the ears of the Spitz dog

Chainsaw bayonet when

No you're not here today, it's winter

Surprising lack of russian propaganda trolls

Something I don’t understand. I have a few mosins. A 1910 Tula, 1917 Rem (both Finn marked) and a beater type 53 Chinese carbine. The Chinese mosin is by far the worst cosmetically yet the smoothest. The Remington feels sticky and the Tula needs to be beaten to work, but that type 53 has only been sticky once after hundreds of rounds. And the trigger is a smooth and even, superior to any other gun I own. Am I missing something, because according to my own personal experiences, the Chinese made type 53 is the finest mosin ever made. Maybe after decades of production everything was finally dialed in? But every video I’ve seen people say the American mosin has the best machining or Finnish mosin is best (despite Karl having to beat them), are other Chinese mosins also this good? Or did I get an above average example?

I have a 28/30 engraved import 7.62x53…. The S&B brand 7.62x54R will not chamber. If you used a different brand (PPU?) is that why you had to slap it to lock the bolt down? Perhaps PPU is “friendlier” for feeding. What say you?

Cadillac grade garbage rods! All joking aside I’d love to own a Finnish mosin.

Simo; the best single maker of good communists

Ain't no Mosin like a Finnish Mosin.

Doesn't matter how much work you put into it, a Mosin still cycles like a Mosin, CHUNKY.

Clearly the best Mosin Nagants there are. The one consistency I found about Russian Mosin Nagants is their inconsistency. Finnish Mosin Nagants are totally different. The Mosin Nagant is not always that stiff. When they were newer, you did not have to beat them open, and if you do some restoration to them, they clean up nicely. Mosins do seem to wear in the same way though. They all get stiff bolts over time.

The reloading looks a bit rough but maybe it is just from the age of the gun.

Was that really the exact rifle Simo used during the Winter war?

look how smooth that bolt is!! it loads a round like your trying to jam an 800 pound American into a smart car LOL

Only inrange could make a mosin video enjoyable without neck beards

Please tell me that you asked them why they built a bunch on M39s in the 1970s. :)

Was this filmed like literally in between bursts from a machine gun?

I wish they could try my Polish 44. You can work the bolt with just your pinky :/

Would you recommend this over the K31?

It looks like this was a nightmare to film and edit around the gunfire

What do you guys do to earn a living? Also how much of the money you spent on going to Finland is funded by Patreon? It's something I'm interested in knowing, Cheers!

So what that actually the M28/30 belonging to Simo Häyhä?

If that is a Fiskar's bayonet.. it is worth more than the rifle.

LEAVE THE MOSIN ALONE. IT'S BEAUTIFUL JUST THE WAY IT IS. I like my M39, too.

Whats the current tikka built Mosin worth today? Fall 2018? RU-vid opinions people? (Those who havent been banned yet...)

They re-Finnished the rifles.

For some reason Ian looks really Finnish to me....and I've never even been to Finland

My Mosin doesn't have the sticky bolt. I got lucky I guess.

A mauser actioned Nagant has to be built

cold... warm.. cold... warm... cold...

Slap slap slap slap goes the bolt

Mosins, not very good, but still fun

dam its tough being a south paw - then again if Karl keeps bashing his hand when working the bolt he might have to resort to shooting lefty style as well.

You skipped the M28. You were really fighting that 28-30. While I'm no Mosin fanboy, and certainly don't have a lot of experience with a lot of different Mosin pattern rifles. My M28 gives me no trouble in cycling.

There's a noticeable increase of jumpcuts in this video compared to most of your other content. Gets a bit disorienting.

Well russian doctrine was always "good enough when in huge numbers". I believe it's slowly changing, at least in the armored vehicle sector with the new Armata platform.

Guy's I cannot believe you have done all these video's about Finnish guns and yet the only mention of Simo Hayha is briefly as you shoulder the same model of Mosin he used. Come on guys do a video about Simo so that his incredible story can be spread further afield.

Gotta Shmack the bolt! Ha!

i like Karl's "bitch slap" the bolt technique for Mosin-Nagants

One of the most interesting models and one of the models most people often forget were the finnish m91/30's with tikka barrels in 1943 until 1944. Why did they make them? They already had m39's and they were producing the M91 for there troops so why would they start making another model? The only real russian m91/30 piece on them is the rear sight but having a lot of m91/30 rear sights isn't really a good reason to build a whole new rifle. Why not just put m91/30 sights on m91's that they were producing at the same time? Or just quit building m91 barrels and start building only m91/30 barrels

I was used of better research made by Ian on his other discussions. A lot of important info are missing about these excellent rifles. Also, what I've heard is not "all" correct. As for "Simo's" rifle ... Ha Ha Ha! Why not talking about the "very genuine horse saddle pad of General Custer" !?! Simo used during the 93 (or so) days he fought during the Winter War with is own (personal purchase) 28/30, serial number 60974. It got lost in Kollaa when he got shot. He was offered a m/28 by Colonel Anterro Svensson as recognition. Simo also used a kP/-31 SMG and was proficient in using a Lahti LS/26 LMG (he won contests, pre-war, with the LS/26). The M28/30 has an aluminium barrel jacket at the stock fore end, and a reinforced bayonet fixture. Also, the "Lottas" M/24 are not presented.

My 91/30 has a WAYYY better bolt than those, the force you guys had to go to work the bolt seems really odd. Bad ammo?

I have to agree that the Mosin is not the most refined rifle ever designed, but it does work when asked to. I've found that a bit of grease on the cocking cams in the bolt goes a very long way to making the action cycle smoothly. It's not Lee-Enfield smooth and never will be, but it usually results in smoothness comparable to my M48 Yugo Mauser, which is good enough to use and not need any sort of strong-arming to operate.

The finns didn't improve anything really. They made the barrel to use .308 bullets. Changed the front and rear sight, and worked the triggers ( the only really improvment compared to a generic 91/30) None the less mosins still beats mausers in all the aspects. I have owned one k98k mauser and traded for 2 m91/30s. Best thing ever I ever traded. I now own 11 mosin nagants. ( Iwonder who I offended)

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