Lovely video Nic, great content showing how the system is gradually replaced and the steps you take to ensure a working and compliant system. I'm currently fitting a radio fire detection system to a nuclear power plant here in the UK, which is proving very successful so far. We are about 60% complete. Looking forward as always to your next video.
Loving this series. Didn't watch the whole video yet, but I can tell, that this is also is good. Keep up the good work! Love your documentation and content.
Coming along nicely. Congrats once again on another successful upgrade well done. As usual gonna miss those classic bells but just wait til the BIG New Year’s Eve event; it’s gonna be EPIC!!!
Once you're done with everything, can you do before and after shots on what the alarm sounds like? Meaning that you have a clip of the old system, then a clip of the new system. I haven't watched this yet so I don't know the progress yet.
I really love your Notifier installation videos Nic. They’re part of what got me into doing Notifier for my hobby system. I would love to be able to work with Notifier out in the field someday. 👍 🤩
The Sync-1 module was discontinued in the United States, its possible that system sensor realizes that card is not acceptable, or the UL said to kill it off. It's possible that CSA/UL(C), or System Sensor Canada has yet to follow in the same decisions. It's being recommended by System Sensor to use the MDL3 instead as it can follow the sync of other MDL3's, and from the panel/other sources. The booster idea is also acceptable too, especially with the high demand.
Not the biggest fan of those NAC expander cards, they never work. We had the same problem with those to the point we stopped using them. Id rather just use the full external power supplies like the PSE10. But even then lately, we have been getting tons of bad boards in from Honeywell (since they decided to make one whole power supply branded as honeywell, for any honeywell brand fire system) our companies owner actually complained a ton to them about it lol... Great video as always man!
With a lot of complaints to Notifier about the defective XP-6 cards, they'll definitely issue a recall on them with their other defective accessory boards because they just don't know how to get them to act right
Your Guys decision to go with the NAC Power Supplies is the right move in my opinion. not your fault the engineer spec'd what they spec'd. our standard procedure for a building such as a school is to use a FCM-1 to trip however many FCPS (or PS10 now days) we need for the NAC load when installing 3030 systems.
Furthermore, we have been having issues with those XP-6C cards as well. we recently replaced a XP-6C with (6) FCM-1s as we were having nothing but issues, it is a high rise, so we had to keep individual control of each circuit.
I think mechanical bells with vibration or mechanical horns and chime fire alarm are discontinued so it’s speaker strobe unit with voice evac time or electronic ones I think.
The previous strobe of Edwards are not synced until either until 1999 or 2003 idk along the way with genesis models if you see a red label sticker text it’s enhanced there is plenty of black ones which can be free run that has its Nac unit which will sync the strobes up evenly.
Fun Fact: If these devices were SpectrAlert Advance horn strobes and if they were overloaded then the pitch of the horn would drop because that happens when the voltage drops under their regulated voltage range as they use resistor based capacitor clocks instead of crystal based capacitor clocks
Did they reconnect the graphic annunciator? Or did they not get the card for it. Also, could you see if those cards have the same issue on your home panels?
The graphic annunciator hadn't been hooked up on the Quickstart either was not operational since the ESA 2000 unfortunately we never made that work again
I don't mean to sound rude or anything but do you guys not use Honeywells multitude of calculators to determine how many power supplies and stuff you need to cover the amount of devices you're installing? I feel like that's a pretty major whoopsie. The drafting guy at the place I work for calculates everything beforehand and we usually don't risk putting the max amount of devices on each circuit. Now I will say the 3030 does have issues with booting when drawing major loads. There is a 3030 installed in a hotel near me I believe its my fire alarm inspection 15, that cannot boot with all the SLC cards plugged in due to boot up spike, but this building is way smaller so I dunno. That hotel has around 20 power supplies in the FACP room alone.
I would've thought someone would've. it isn't mine or my coworkers fault we are just provided products to install usually someone in the office of the company providing the materials should be looking over materials for compatibility with the system and that everything would work. they may not have been informed that the strobes need to be set to 110 which massively increases the load but I'm honestly not sure. Office people don't always have the same field experience therefore why XP-6CA curds were provided as in theory they should work but anyone with experience would avoid them.
@@nics-systems-electric fair enough. Also XP6-CA cards aren’t NAC cards they’re circuit control cards. They need a PS-24 or APS-24 to provide them with enough extra current to act as full nacs.
As much as EST deserves the shit it gets, one thing they did right was making their alarms (Genesis and Enhanced Integrity and newer) self-sync without any synchronization input. If only System Sensor could’ve done that too, but EST probably patented that technology something…
this is the biggest replace fire alarm system i notice unsync strobes that were crazy turn a firework but this video the strobes where going off but not horn that was weird buy hey did you got access the elevator shaft replace the detector with smoke
Nick I warn you that thing you’re using to synchronize the strobes wasn’t gonna work. It caused un synchronization at your high school. That’s the same thing that’s happening here if you want have it synchronized just get a booster panel I’m not complaining. I’m just letting you know.
It's just Nic and yes, sometimes they do work. But that's not an excuse for Honeywell the product is supposed to do a job and it doesn't do it. Unfortunately "Warning me" doesn't change how the parts are specked for the job. I know, you know, and the tech knows that they cause problems. But that doesn't change parts that are already supplied.
How come detectors go green when installed? They didn’t do that in the past, did they? Btw I commented this in a different video that was completely off topic from this comment so I’m really embarrassed lol
