In this video I compare the classic Firebox Gen 2 stove against the Ikea Hobo stove Link for the lid mention in the video (updates) www.aliexpress.com/item/32914... #fireboxstove #ikeahobostove #woodstove
Thanks Mark! I think it's awesome when people make their own stoves because of how much they learn about stoves in general. as far as I'm concerned the more people understand the nuances of how wood stoves work the more they will appreciate the Firebox Stove. I spent a full year doing basically what you did. Before starting product design I wanted to be sure I was starting in the right direction. I made rocket stoves, wood gas type stoves, and simple hobos all In different shapes and sizes. Observing wood fueled flames in so many scenarios gave me a wealth of information as a foundation for the design of the Original 5" Firebox Stove. Mentioning difficult burning condition is so important. high elevations cold temperatures or damp wood changes the dynamic of how a stove Burns drastically. Not to mention wind. I wanted a stove which would perform well in all safe burning conditions. Of all my stove designs the 5-inch Firebox works the best acrost all conditions. Some technique may need to be adjusted such as fueling the stove vertically to draw more air and or graduating to smaller diameter sticks to create more heat. Sorry to ramble, your video and the comments inspired me I guess.
Hi Steve. Your "ramble" is greatly appreciated. It was in part because of one of your early videos where you show how you started testing different designs that I began experimenting myself. I have nowhere near the knowledge or experience you have but enough to appreciate what you were able to achieve with your designs. I am looking forward to the long awaited titanium version. Thanks for commenting
27 mins for a stove comparison vid? I’ll make coffee and breakfast while watching. ... ... wait, the video is done? I did make my coffee, but between the soothing voice, fun footage, and sound advice I was so glued to the screen my breakfast hasn’t even been started yet. 😂 Another great job. Thank you!! 👍🏻
I was very close to buying the Firebox but I'm a projects man and frugal ... I'll be making an Ikea Hobo Stove - there is something satisfying about using something you created. Thank you for a most excellent summary of the two and their operation!
I agree totally, I do love my Firebox and it is a better stove in terms of flexibility than the Ikea Hobo but making and using the Ikea Hobo is a lot of fun and as you say, very satisfying. Thanks for commenting
Excellent comparison. In defense of the firebox in terms of burn rate, I believe that you did mention that you can flip the "ash" pan over and insert it up against the bottom of the burn chamber. That will slow down the wood burn rate which would make it more comparable to the ikea burn rate if not even better. Also in defense of the Firebox, the way I generally use it is to split a larger round piece of wood into quarters. In use, those quarters are each turned 180 degrees from their natural position and dropped into the stove so the the 90 degree angles on each of the quarters are in burn chamber corners and with the rounded side toward the middle. With this type of wood arrangement I get quite a long burn rate especially with the ash pan cutting back the air flow from the bottom. All in all I thought the video comparison was very well thought out and well done as usual.
Hi Lonnie. I agree with you on ways to get more from the Firebox. I had hoped to show that there are a great number of ways of using it that would determine burn rate, etc. I have used the two methods you describe to great effect. Thank you for your kind words and for commenting
Looks valid to me. I’m beginning to notice that you do spend a lot of time next to these stoves on your knees but we never seem to have video of you getting up afterwards. If I spent that much time on my knees I would have to have a tree next to me to get up! Your my hero.
Well .. I know how you guys feel .. mine really isn't the knees .. it's the back which causes the pain in the knee joint area .. either way it's a pain to get up
Great video. I use an Ikea stove exclusively, and a friend of mine has the Firebox. I have respect for the Firebox, but for the price by itself, let alone the accessories, no thank you. Him and my son had a competition, boiling water, and cooking a chicken in pots laid horizontal on top. They were the same results. Neither one out did the other. Compactness? You still need a pot of some sort for the firebox. Like your set up, my pot nests in the Ikea stove, so put that pot with the firebox and you are pretty even. As I said, I respect the Firebox, but I really feel that it doesn't out do the Ikea, especially for the price. I have cut off skewers, a piece of mesh screen, and the siege crossmembers, and a small grill all inside the set up, and I can switch between the grill and siege set up if I want or need to.
I agree totally with you on the Ikea. That is why I wanted to show it in this video and the previous ones. It is the best stove for the money and better than most commercial stoves for all the reasons you mentioned. Thanks for commenting
Good comparison! The Firebox Stove belongs on the Top 5 List. But I'll use the $98 for other essential gear like a Complete Pathfinder Stainless Steel Cooking Set ($78) and an EverOne Wool Blanket ($20). Or a combination of other gear....
Some great gear in your list. For me the Firebox remains my number one choice as all round best stove, especially in titanium but it is a lot of money for many people. Especially when the Ikea hobo stove will serve much of the same function. Thanks for commenting
I think you are a genius for coming up with this comparison series. Its always great to see if you are getting full value for your money or if you need to upgrade to a better stove depending on what stove you've purchased.. Keep up the great uploads!!
Great video! It's always good to see that even the "home made" items can perform in the ring. I did laugh when I saw the title. I've had a Firebox gen 2 for a long time and have cooked many a meal on it, grilled using wood, pellets, lump charcoal, run alcohol in it. It's by far the most versatile, roughest stove I own. Heavy as all get out, but you can put a cast iron dutch oven on it and not worry about it collapsing. I didn't believe that the Ikea could hold a candle (Still don't think so..haha) but it did perform admirably. Thanks for sharing this with us.
People often ask me which stove I would choose if I could have only one. I reply it would be the Firebox followed by the Ikea. The new titanium Firebox stove has just arrived and it may become the one stove to rule them all. Thanks for commenting
It was Taiwan where the wood is always wet and we don't have hardwood 😄 Yeah, I almost wanted to cry seeing how close the stoves came in the burn test. For me it's day and night, Firebox takes maybe 5 mins to a boil once I have some ambers built up supporting a fire, for the Ikea I might not even get a boil at all. But very interesting to see your results, thx for this!
Thank you for setting me strait on where you were talking about. It was in part because of your previous comment that I felt it was important to mention about how the stove performance will vary in different environments. Steve (from Firebox) mentioned ion his comment about performance at high altitude. Another variable where the Firebox shines. Thanks for commenting
Mark i love your videos.You answer so many questions that i have.I love the diy projects.I love to build wood stoves and alcohol stoves .Then test them to see what i can do to improve on my design.As I have seen you like to do this also.Good job my friend,you are a class act.Thank you for taking the time to do the vids,and keep up the good work.
Thank you so much for your kind words. I expect I am an amateur DIY person but I do love when I can make something that works well and saves me money. Thanks for commenting
I would love to see the differant ways you pack down your pack and how the differant stoves cause you to make efficiency decisions . This channel was made for me I'm so excited to find you
Glad you are enjoying my channel. My packing tends to be different than most people as I usually take along gear that I am testing. Makes for a heavier pack. If I am not recording I tend to go much lighter of course. I could do video on what I would take if I am not testing gear and recording. Thanks for commenting
I can appreciate where you are coming from on the cost. The Ikea will likely do everything you need it to do. Metal drawer knobs sound like a great idea for legs. Thanks for commenting
I'd buy a firebox all day long. The designer of the product uses and demonstrates real world applications frequently. The only reason to buy or make any other stove is to save a few dollars. For me, I;m happy to support Firebox for all of the design and testing.
I like the concept of the IKEA stove. It would be easy enough to make a wider one from a stainless steel pipe. That would counteract the rapid cool down effect and it's disadvantages mentioned at the end of the video. As a backpacker a metal cylinder has an appeal for protecting things like a bag of charcoal / dried food or housing a pan/flask water bottle. Great video 👍
You're a bad influence, Mark. After viewing several videos on the Firebox, (I was about to design another folding stove), I ordered a Firebox. Today, I picked up an Ikea strainer (the bigger one) at VV and made a hobo stove. When will it end? Keep up the good work. I find your videos very informative and well done.
The Firebox is an investment but it will last you multiple lifetimes. I have often said, if I could have only one stove it would be the Firebox. Now I have the titanium version and it addresses the weight issue nicely but is considerably more expensive. The Ikea strainer is fun to play with and no end to the possibilities. Thanks fore commenting
For me, using a camp stove maybe twice a year on a motorcycle camping trip, I use a small canister gas stove and also have and use 2 hobo stoves, this one you show and a smaller one. That is more than enough for me. But, if I was hiking and camping on a regular base, say at least once or twice a month, only then I would consider the more expensive stove.
Totally understand. If I only had the Ikea I would be happy to use it all the time. In fact, it was all I used for years before receiving the Firebox as a Christmas present from my wife. Thanks for commenting
I have been very fortunate to acquire the stoves I have mostly as gifts. I really enjoy them all bit do not feel handicapped at all using the Ikea hobo stove. Thanks for commenting
I think the firebox is amazing, but man... That price tag is hard to swallow. Single-handedly the main reason i turn the firebox website off everytime i think about buying one.
John, you can use the conduit clamps, but you can also use spade thumb bolts and wingnuts and lock washers and washers. You don't have to drill holes if you use 4 feet which is a little more stable. I use the holes in the bottom and the appropriate size bolt setup. The beauty is that you can rotate the feet and put them under the container for storage in a sack. I like the Walmart ditty bags that are (3) for $5 to put my stove in. And you can use the different size bags for different size stoves. With that setup of thumb bolts, wingnuts, and lock washers you can tighten the legs in or out. Another neat idea is to cut a couple of holes in the bottom across from each other so you can put long pieces of wood in stove. See Survival Lilly's video. Lastly, you can use a 5" stainless Oatey shower drain from Lowes. It has 4 little tabs on the bottom. Bend them vertical and it fits on top PERFECTLY. You can also use the stakes found at Walmart. A pair (or 3) of the cheapest metal stakes in the camping area can be inserted at various heights and you can then support different fuel options such as an alcohol stove or maybe those fuel tablets. Another neat way to make a pot stand on the top, and one I like better is to get a chicken grill beer can stand for a grill also sold at Lowes and bend the side down on each side of the stove so that the ring sits on top and then get a stake and pend it to hold the two sides that have been bent down and flattened and bent in such a way that the top is held on. If you look up the Fancy Feast Cat alcohol stove and make it the right height you can transport that with you to make a highly versatile and inexpensive stove. The Oatey shower drain is about $5 3-5 metal stakes are about .50 each. The thick round stakes that are about a dollar each will also work in the stove. Depending on your design. The stuff sacks at Walmart are $5 for (3) so you can use for a couple of stoves and/or have leftover sacks The beer can chicken grill stand can be had for about $5 Tape a piece of paracord to the bottom of your BIC lighter to secure to the bag drawstrings with it handing on the top. And, the feet cost abput $7 for (4) 3/4? conduit clamps, (4) 1/4? lock washers, (4) wing nuts and up to (16) flat washers depending on how you want to do it. And, I made the small stove and was able to fit a small round tin combustion kit in the stuff sack with the stove. I love this little versatile stove because it is easy, there is no setup, and because something like a Stanley set will nest right in side of it. I like to take this out when hiking for the day. I also like to keep one filled up with dried wood, some cotton ball and/or dryer lint and some processed and full size fat wood and put in a stuff sack with a lighter in my truck so I always have one of these stove.
I also love the Firebox stove. So much in fact I now own the 5" Firebox in stainless steel and titanium as well as the Nano in SS and titanium. Thanks for commenting
So far the only thing I note is that it can warp a tiny bit. Does not affect setup or use and acn be bent back easy enough. Extra care need to be taken when using it is hot as that is when the metal is most malleable. The weight difference justifies the cost to me. Thanks for commenting
I’m a old Boy Scout we made coffee can stoves. Even used a old brass gas stove during wilderness survival in Boy Scouts for a month in woods. An I was a soldier back when we had canteen cups so I’m a fan of make your own unless you find something that does something I can’t make on my own. It’s like we have become a people of buy an throw out instead of make things your own way. I’m trying to make a rocket stove that’s take down if I get it working I’ll show you I think you’d like my I idea. That’s judging from you content. An everything I’m using you can find in a grocery store.
Yes, I would be very interested. I have come up with something based on the Ikea Hobo stove that acts like a rocket stove and will be doing a video soon. Thanks for commenting
Hi! Thanks for posting. I like your backyard bushcraft videos! I went to my local Ikea today to look for the pot you showed in in the beginning of the video, but it looks like they have replaced it with a new version called "Kungsfors" (kings river/rapid/stream or something other watery) that has the same diameter as the strainer and doesn't fit inside. This made me a little sad as I was looking for a cheep stove and pot. Is the one you have from the "Ordning" series?
Yes, the pot was from the Ordning series. It is unfortunate it is not available as it is a perfect fit for the strainer. It may be possible to find them in thrift stores. Thanks for commenting
Another Great side & side comparison, Love your New Improved IKEA ! I Have another not yet started But I May borrow your idea of the 2 Feed Ports if you don't mind, Mark ? Happy Canada Day ! ATB T God Bless
Happy Canada Day to you as well Terry. Any ideas you see on my channel are yours to copy and share as you please. I think Steve (Firebox) is the person who deserves credit if anyone does.
Thr firebox is the Leatherman of the wood stoves. Incredibly durable and, as mark put it, the "Hallmark of versatility", just like the zebra billy pot is to all other bushcraft pot sets. I'd love to see the firebox compared to the solo stoves, or at least the lixada scout or tower stoves.
I have had the Ti version from week one , 6 fire sticks internal grate , all more than good , the grill plate not used much a cheep Chinese wire grill works better with a nice steak ( sorry Steve ) it does not stick so hard , The extra capacity is essential with damp wood , One of the nicest things i have ever owned , cost is soon forgotn
I was fortunate to buy one of the first 100 titanium Firebox stoves. A review and comparison is still on my list of videos to make. Thank you for commenting
Excellent video!! Now for a bit of a shock comment!! It is now July 20 so a bit more time and usage of these twig stoves has been experienced. Apparently there is a slight but common problem with the Firebox that has been seen over time and that has to do with the rather tiny hinges of the Firebox. After a number of hotter burns the thin wire hinges are not fairing so well. They are eroding and changing shape at a different rate than the rest of the stove. This is causing it to be difficult in opening and closing. The panels are seizing up. It is also said that some users are cutting out some of the side panels to create more airflow. If loading wood using the designated ports at the bottom the time to create a greater burn is much longer. The hinges on the Bushbox XL are more robust and of a different design so as not to affect the stove functionality as the stove wears over time. It is also recommended that large burns are not really what these type of stoves are truly intended for. They are really meant to boil up some water for a hot drink or to use for dehydrated meals. Not to be used to cook up steak dinners for 6 or to use as campfires. Here is what is peculiar. I heard this all from one of the owners of an outdoor camping store which is very popular on the web and at their actual store. They also mentioned that they heard that Firebox is not likely to survive after the summer 2020. Anyway I just thought I would put this out there for everyone. I don’t own any twig stove but if I can I think I am going to purchase a Bushbox or possibly a Firebox if I can find one. I am pretty handy so if the hinges screwed up the operation I’m confident that I could somehow do a repair. Probably go with a Bushbox however! Just sayin’
Wow. I had not heard this before. I have not had that experience with my Firebox either. Although, I have not had more than 50 or 60 fires in mine as I have too many stoves. I also have the Bushbox which I agree is very robust but has a few downsides as well. I will look into this more for my own information. If you can provide me additional references to these complaints I would appreciate it
Mark Young I live in southern Mississauga Ontario just a short bike ride from The Canadian Outdoor Equipment Store on Lakeshore Blvd near Hurontario St in southern Mississauga. I think that they have only one store in Canada, I could be wrong. Maybe he was just trying to make a sale of one brand over the other but did say that he was one of the six owners of the store. Don’t know if you’ve heard of them either.
@@Brad-vs1lk Hi Brad, Yes, I know of Canadian Outdoor Equipment. I have purchased a few items from Tim over the years. They have an excellent reputation for service. I believe they carry a few of the higher end camp stove brands online including Firebox, Bushcraft Essentials and LittleBug.
I enjoy your channel very much. Thank you for the great information and ideas. I use the Ikea utensil holder with the holes in it, but I can't find any like to one you have nesting inside of it. Do you have any suggestions where I might find one? I didn't see them on the Ikea site.
Thank you for your kind words. I buy all my Ikea utensil strainers at our local thrift store. Of the many that I purchased, my first was a bit smaller than all the others. There is also a tall and short version. I do have two other videos on smaller alternatives if interested. Thanks for commenting
So I'm sure you were expecting to hear from me on this one! 🙂🙂. So I have a couple comments, but I'm glad, on the whole that you did this. So first, since it's only a stick stove, I don't really care if I use a little more wood, so I think they should be stuffed to the max. They're just sticks, it's ok if it uses more, so long as it does what I want quickly. UNLESS it's one of those super annoying stick stoves that are a pain in the ass to keep full. The firebox has a large top side port to feed, along with the overlapping side ports. That's one of the reasons I fell in love with it. It's so easy to keep running. I never use it like you do btw. I build a little bonfire, then use the side ports and just keep sliding them in. I love it because I can control the heat to a degree. I hated the stick stoves I used before because I had to keep taking the pot off to feed it, and same as with your last comment. I used to sit in front of a stupid smokey tin can whenever it was damp, and the firebox is a million times better. I also use it for two people usually. It's a bit of overkill for just one person for a day, unless it's winter. I do love that you made a super cheap stove though. I get a kick out of you showing we can make a perfectly usable stove for a couple bucks and a few minutes work. I chuckle at every contest.
Hi Jim. I know I did not do the Firebox justice in showing what it is truly capable of. The idea of using the same amount of wood is just to control a variable. I will likely do other videos showing the true capability of the Firebox. I agree on the small stoves or others that require a lot of attention to keep burning well. They are more work than they are worth. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Dont get me wrong Mark, I see your logic in using the same amount of wood, and if you did it my way, you'd have just as many comments the other way around. I was just sharing my personal point of view on whats more important based from some frustrating past experience. Fuel efficiency only matters if you have a stove that sucks to keep fed. its only sticks after all, but many that you test do fir into that category, so its all good. as for doing it justice, with all those videos of baking muffins, to grilling steak, its pretty tough to "do it justice". to me, the best part is the ability to control the heat with the overlapping ports. good video over all. You just asked for some input, and I gave it. I dont suppose you have acccess to one of those gasifiers with the fan built in, and charges batteries too ( I cant thing of the name) do you?
@@jimf1964 Jim, no offence taken. Your thoughts are always welcome. I don't own a Biolite stove (that is the name you were trying to think of) but I did borrow once once and compared it against the VitalGril. I could probably borrow it again. What are you thinking?
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yes, thats the one. Honestly, In hated that darn thing. Its the number one stove I'm thinking of when I talk about bad experiences with damp wood. I:d personally be interested to see someone like you try to run it in real world conditions. I know it would work with dried wood, but real forest material? I will admit, I had the BBQ attachment, and that rocked. It was like a mini BBQ, that I could take to the park, but as stove, on a damp day? No way.
A very good review. I know nothing about the Ikea but I have been using the Firebox for the past two years. I agree with your findings and opinions on versatility. My other stoves, gas, solo wood stove, etc have been put into retirement by the Firebox. It is just so bomb proof and handy. When I can't get wood or I'm too tired/cold to look for fuel the Firebox works superbly with a Trangia spirit stove inside. The height of the spirit burner can be easily adjusted using a pair of firestick rods, supplied with the stove. This feature, along with the way it folds flat for transport, can burn all types of wood in several configurations, durability, etc makes the Firebox an essential for any regular camper in a temperate region. Expensive but worth every penny.
I agree totally. When you look at versatility and fuel savings by not having to buy gas/alcohol, the Firebox becomes much more justifiable to purchase. Now, I just bought the titanium version and it is much more expensive although half the weight. I am just beginning to test it out. It is not for everyone but for those who can afford it (I used my RU-vid earnings) it looks like the perfect stove
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I'm interested to see how the titanium stove compares. I would have gone for this if I was back packing but these days I motorcycle camp. Weight is less important than volume, but if I was lugging the thing around I suspect the titanium would be the way to go, so long as it is as strongly made as the stainless steel version.
I don't know why anyone would use a 2+ pound stove for a Trangia, unless they are in their backyard. If I wanted to use a Trangia I would just bring the series 27 or 25 stormcooker, they are less weight and include 2 pots and a pan and are designed for the Trangia. The Firebox is great wood stove, but all the'features' are pointless. I bought mine for the features but really only use it to burn wood, for everything else I have better much lighter options.
In defense of the Firebox. In the real world of car/truck camping and backpacking you will know the difference between the two when you bump those round stoves bend them even a little. Then all of the accessories just don't fit. In its flattened state the Firebox is nearly impervious to the hard knocks of tossing backpacks into your truck. In fact, you can sit on it and nothing will likely happen. You just can't beat the engineering which has gone into the Firebox stove.
you know what would be better for both of these, especially the ikea, and especially in winter when pots/pans get icey. Stainless steel cloths peg or money clip, or something to that effect, to clip onto the stands to hold the pot in place. The ones on the ikea should be longer to accommodate an 8" pan.
I have the original 5" firebox with all the accessoreies and absolutely love it EXCEPT for the weight. Once your done cooking it becomes a mini fire pit (remember the old indian saying "white men build big fire and sit far away but indians build small fire and sit close" which takes less fuel. Can't wait till the tiatanium version is available. As you mentioned, costly but will last several lifetimes.
I would really love to see you, particularly, breakdown the contrasts and benefits of the Pack Stove XL vs the Firebox2 5". I can see either as a single stove, universal solution, ie. if you could only have one. Your opinion would be of great interest. (Recommented from another of your videos, because it also seemed relevant.)
I think I could make a video like that. I am still working with the Pack Stove XL and will be reviewing it first then I will make a some comparison videos for sure. Thanks for commenting
Great video Mark. Really interesting. You mentioned that you were going to put a link to the pot lid, but I couldn't see it. Could you where the lid came from, thanks?
Sorry about that. Here is the link to where I purchase the lids on eBay.ca www.ebay.ca/itm/Dustproof-Anti-dust-Glass-Cup-Cover-Coffee-Mug-Suction-Seal-Lid-Cap-Tool/273495104689?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=572886960110&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Interesting video. For a medium sized wood stoves they are to me equal in cooking performance. As seen in your burn videos. Pre loaded with Swedish style wood, charcoal or pellets they performed identically as a burner/stove. My preferred fuel is lump charcoal. I also use a trangia burner in all my wood stoves especially the IKEA. I prefer it for cooking generally. I let the lump turn gray before putting a pan it; much the same as Steve of Firebox does on his stoves. Add the appropriate sized pot to either stove/cook kit and they take up the same space in your bag though I prefer a frying pan but I don’t go far and if you want what only a pan can do you take one regardless. You never said how the firebox perform better other than folding . I have been collecting small camp stoves for over ten years. Alcohol,gas and wood. I own several wood stoves including the IKEA and the solid Bottom Emot gasifier stove (Solo Scout Titan knockoff), Emberlit, and Bushbox essentials pocket stove Clones as well as several of the Chinese originals. I would buy a mid sized Firebox. One Between the G2 and Nano. We have a few minus 32 degrees days. The IKEA preforms well here in Georgia Winters so I can’t compare it to to colder climates. I don’t go out to play when it’s around 32F degrees or below. Though I don’t own a Firebox yet, It looks like it will do the job as stated. At the end of the day if you put a (properly prepared) fire in any of them they will all accomplish essentially the same thing {Cook Food}. There are so many equally capable stoves on the market that one could be happy at any price point. IKEA scores high in that regard. At $2.50 (U.S) in stores the IKEA next to a used can hobo stove is arguably the best bang for the buck stove available and would last longer than an old coffee can hobo stove. For me cooking food is the reason I use any stove. Boiling water is a far second. I want solid food when I’m out and about but then again I don’t rehydrate food and don’t walk ten miles to make it. I use my stove Fishing and car camping like Steve of Firebox fame does. He does the food thing too , I haven’t seen him doing Mountain house. I am interested in the New Modular Firebox Kickstarter stove. If it is sized between the Nano and G2 I’d be very interested. Overall an interesting overview. Thanks for sharing your comments and observations. Cheers!!
Great analysis based on experience. You have a good size collection, maybe more than me. The Firebox is a great stove as it the Bushbox XL and many others. The Ikea Hobo stove is still the best value overall. I am hoping to get a chance to test out the new mid-size Firebox Freestyle soon. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thank you I’m glad your able show as many varieties of stoves as you do. Fellow collectors and I certainly appreciate your comprehensive due diligence. I enjoy your videos. Your attention to detail and your experiments are both interesting and entertaining. It’s been fun watching you adapt to new methods and suggestions. I look forward to you take on the Freestyle as it fits a size niche that many of us solo campers have looking for in a flat pack that size from Firebox stove. I have been wanting to add a Firebox to my collection for years but I have all sizes of flat pack stoves covered except the Freestyle-Bushbox Lf size stove. I watch his channel regularly. He has to Lots of good cooking ideas especially how to use the stove at lower cooking levels with alternative fuels and mods. The modular element looks of his new stoves looks like it will offer us several new ways to enjoy the outdoors as well. Continue the good works. Keep well. As always I’ll be watching. Cheers from Atlanta! P.S. side note; I purchased a new gasifier stove recently on Amazon that is a Solo Clone. It’s sized in between the solo lite and the Titan. It is virtually identical to the Solo Stove/Bushbuddy offerings except it has holes in a solid lower level instead of the wire. Unlike other Chinese gasifier stoves this one has a solid floor base just like the Solo stoves. The reason I have been singing their praises is their price. I bought two in the last two month’s. One for $19.99 and the other for $23.99. The quality and workmanship is looks identical. It’s just the right size for the solo camper who wants to accommodate a 9 or 10 inch frypan on the appropriate type of excursions. Like short day hikes car camping, boat-canoe/kayak camping etc. I have not burned either yet. Just had an operation on my throat in October with complications to my vocal cords from nerve damage. I’m fine. I’m on the mend and hope to be totally back to normal in the couple of weeks. www.amazon.com/EMOT-Stainless-Portable-Backpacking-Traveling/dp/B093FWM3QZ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8. Again more Cheers
I have both firebox stoves ( 5" & the nano , & both in ss ) . I have a homemade achol burner that just fits the nano ( in conjunction w/ solid fuel plate ) . The burner was made from a 7.5 oz coke can . There barely is enough clearance for the flame . W/10ml of heet it will perfectly heat a can of progresso soup ( in the can ) , w/out the need for stirring . When flames go out , soups hot ! Ez pz !
I would like to see a comparison between the nano G2 and the ikea one. And try with trangia in all too. One of the big problems with trangia and similar is the preheat times. Especially in cold weather. Another is wasted heat running up the sides of any cooking container (cylindrical). I also thought about burner height (wood or triangia). Neither stove allows for on the fly adjustment to maintain that 1" height or adjustable temperature once lit. Perhaps get a 20 quart SS stock pot and place each in one of those stoves in it to slow down heat loss? And it would slow the wind too (alcohol stoves easily can be blown out by the wind). May even help in cold weather by reducing wasted heat during preheat. Adds weight so probably not that good for backpacking. But stationary camping it might work well, or even in the back yard? Would be interesting in trying lump charcoal and briquet charcoal in each too. Firebox is good for 4 people or so. Nano good for 1-2 people, more if you have lots of time on your hands. Ikea should be big enough for 4 people. More fuel surface area = hotter burn. Less fuel surface area = longer burn. How much soot does each of your stoves put out? Some complain about the time it takes for cool down. I suggest while they cool down, wash some socks. Clean utensils. Relieve yourself? CLEAN UP THE CAMPSITE? If SHTF, you can always use a little water (or even pee on them) to cool them down quickly.
Hi Mark l haven't heard from you for a long time , but nice to see a vid from you again , l have a fire box and l am very pleased with it but if one does not want to spend so much money then the Ikea is the way to go.
Fantastic comparison I suppose if I'm stealthing down and dirty and fast would be key but if I were cooking eggs for the wife and daughters I would want the steady longer and more constant flame And if I want wanted cool beans brain fun well gasifacation is sure to tickle the tingle part of the brain Thanks for sharing
Good thoughts on stove selection. Lately, I have had a fascination with pack-able rocket stoves. Hard to come up with one that is efficient and carry-able as well. Thanks for commenting
Once I saw the Firebox Stove I had to purchase one. I was intrigued by the ingenuity of the design, the versatility in its ability to use wood or the Trangia, and the accessories to grill and bake. I thought the cost was very reasonable considering all the accessories that came with it including a large 3 qt. Billy pot. Three minutes for a full rolling boil of that much water is faster than a microwave. Both stoves were impressive.
Patricia Ribaric :- I don't think "all the accessories" do come with the Firebox, everything is extra. The Billy pot and lid are about $30.00 to 35.00 U.S. (tax & delivery extra) depending on size.
I hope to do that comparison soon. The issue I have is that my Bushbox LF is a smaller version than the Firebox. I can talk features, etc, but it would not be a fair performance test. Thanks for commenting
If you changed the Ikea stove to three legs instead of four, it would be stable on any terrain and would save some more weight. I saw yours rocking slightly on the cement slab with four legs. It wouldn't do that with three legs.
Thanks for a great video. I'll probably never look for a Firebox since I have more than enough options now. Would you know the name of the Ikea pot you showed nested inside your hobo stove? I've made extra plates for my Nimblewell and Trangia Triangle, so they are much more functional for me and my equipment. Several mods picked up from this video to add to my stoves. Much appreciated. Cheers.
If I had only the Ikea I would be perfectly happy. I just checked the Ikea site and I cannot see the exact pot but the KUNGSFORS is very similar. Hope this helps
Love the dog bowl oven. I always thought these might make good camp pots, but the identical sizes as an oven is brilliant! How does this work on a gasifier/wood pellets setup? Thanks for another great video.
This is harder to answer than you might think. Short answer would be a titanium Bushbox XL or Firebox. Long answer might need a video. Thanks for commenting
Great vlog Mark the Firebox is very good however love the fact you build your own stoves and compare with the big boys I like lixada stoves they are light and very robust this would be a good one to match the firebox
Glad you like the video series. I had not considered comparing the Firebox against the Lixada ( I assume you mean the woodgas stove and not one of the others) but will give it some thought. Thanks for commenting
I live in South Africa where the Rand/Dollar rate of exchange is approximately 15:1. I priced a firebox in South African Rands and almost fainted. Fortunately there is a similar product made by a South African company called LK. R299. Thank-you Jesus. (Now I just need to find a South African made bushcraft knife that equals the Mora Companion....)
Glad you liked the video. Both the SS and Titanium stoves work about the same. The Ti stove is about 40% lighter in weight. If that helps. Thanks for commenting
Mark .. I saw a video from waypoint survival used a can and a fan cover from the back of an old computer tower to make a mini grill .. I was thinking for the IKEA stove one that was large enough that the screw mounting tabs could be bent over to cup over the IKEA stove and you could have a grill for the nearly nothing weight addition it would easily store under the stove in the bag
I have a few of the fan covers and they work great with the Ikea strainer. I have learned that yo can only bend the tabs once. They break if you bend them back. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for that information .. I could only find an IKEA strainer actually at IKEA .. but I did find a cheap knock off that is stainless at Walmart .. pretty much anything that is quality has to be bought on amazon and shipped in where I live .. other than that the best you can purchase where I live is the basic car camping equipment .. Coleman . Ozark trail .. Walmarts store brand or similar quality..
Ikea has a better burn rate. Both boiled in about the same time but the Ikea burned less wood. That goes to the Ikea. Also on set up time the Ikea was faster but marginally so. But cost is the big deal.
The Ikea is a great basic setup. I find the Firebox more versatile but so much more expensive. The Ikea can be improved with a bit of tinkering. I have a few videos on that. Thanks for commenting
I use my Firebox Gen 2 regularly at home just for relaxing fun. I have a number of take down and folding stoves, including the Bushcraft Essentials XL in SS. This is the only folding stove that I think can stand up to as much fire as can be built in it without significant warpage. Something not recommended with the BE-XL. Also it is the most versatile of all the stoves I either have or looked at. However I do like all my stoves for specific uses. I have a couple of Ikea containers and plan to follow your design when I get around to making one of those. One thing I would like to know more about is the cook pot you used on the Ikea. Enjoyed this and many of your other videos.
I did not know that about the BE XL. Very interesting considering that it is more expensive than the Firebox. I checked the Ikea site and don't see this pot anymore. It was called the ORDNING. There is a similar one called the KUNGSFORS. Hope this helps
Did you ever get the titanium firebox 5"? Wondering what your impressions are on that, and sturdiness/ability to take long hot fire vs. the SS version..
Yes, I have the 5" FB in Ti. It is as close to perfect as you will want. It is 40% lighter but considerably more expensive. I have noticed it can warp a small amount after a really hot fire but it is easy to return to true. I have heard it performs better than the SS version but I have not noticed any difference. I do plan to do a review and comparison video at some point. Thanks for commenting
Back again. 1. Don't believe you deserved the 'snarkygram'. I'm writing a book to my 4 grandsons, and copied it out to pass on to them in a few years in the chapter that tells them "Things to not say, and things to never do." It comes right after ..."If you think that's stupid, listen to this one..." That'll be a long chapter from my perspective for sure. 2. Any experience with an Optimus 8R ?
Great story on the book you are writing. I have not owned the Optimus but would love to have one someday. I did have a Svea I picked up second hand but could not get it to work correctly so I gave it to a friend. Thanks for commenting
How many 5-10 dollar stoves can you buy for Fire box 80 dollar stove. I'm cheap. Haven't got around to makeing one but metal coffee cans could replace by repurpose n the IKEA with coffee can.
is it a real Ikea utensil container or is it a knockoff- lots of them in dollar stores and they are noticeably lighter. Ikea shopper alert ! THe inside pot is great - got one !
Hi Mark I have been mulling over making an IKEA hobo stove and like your idea of clamps for the feet. I was wondering what would be a cheap alternative for a pot stand and then noticed that we have vertical stainless toilet roll stands that when cut down would be perfect. They have a round base with concentric stainless “wire” circles - the upright ones that hold the toilet rolls in place could be cut off - one could be bent over to use as a hook to lift a pot off (maybe with some insulation) I would cut a couple of notches in the stove to hold the pot holder in place. I think there are a number of variations that could have different uses but without be able to send you a photo I hope that this makes sense. David B Western Australia
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