Fired a drywall contractor 

Yip

Agreed

That's true bro 😂😂😂😂😂

100%.

And then there are 2 drywallers🤣

Yeah it’s really not that bad. When you’re finishing you can fix bad outlet cuts like these with tape and mud in about 15 seconds a piece.

Yeah, they did a shitty job, but I used to do this for a living and he may as well just fix what they did rather than start over. Drywall is forgiving and easy to fix. I'd be most pissed about them not staggering the joints, though as that can lead to cracks.

Yeah I was about to say the guy was kinda over reacting when he said he was gonna rip it all down. I've definitely seen worse than this and although it's a bad job, it didn't warrant it to be all torn down. Just fix all that with tape and mud, they do worse jobs in brand new apartment buildings

Just what I was thinking

@@katkiller50 that’s why you screw and not nail. Lol I don’t know who uses nails on drywall my brother

i agree finish work would easily cover up. but firing because of not showing up is valid

Lmfao, good luck learning how to mud and hang drywall. It’s taken me two years an I’m still incredibly inexperienced but go on and wreck your house.

Dang man that's an expensive way to learn. Hope you pick things up fast and dont mess up a lot.

@@waynewayne8419 you must be a really bad student. It’s one of the easiest things you can do in construction.

@@Fixin-To 🤣🤣

I completely agree man. I did the electrical, plumbing, and drywall in my house. I come from a computer engineering background. But have lots of family in construction and have learned from them and their friends.

This is so common, it's almost a parable. So few people really are what they say they are, and in the United States there is really no way to tell, until one gets burnt. Even online ratings can be faked. Everyone is fake here.

Yep with the pros if you hire a good one they still only do C or B level work. If you want A level work you really have to do it yourself. If you hire a crappy company they are going to do D or F level work and leave you with the mess. This is why I hate pros who argue 'only pros can do X good' - Nah DIY adept people can do it better with more time.

Don't know the contractors everyone is using check references i am a carpenter and I have never advertised one day all word of mouth for the last 15 years

Pro is about speed. Of course If we charged 3x more and took sweet time on things mud will hide. I have seen mud fix everything he pointed out. Look at cars with Bondo. It looks horrible at first coat. After sanding and another Bondo you have a better chance

There is no way you hired a drywall contractor and your first time job was better. There also is no such thing as a "supposed Pro". They were either pros or not. Chances are you hired cheap and got what you paid for. Had to remove it and do it yourself because you blew money twice on the job. Good work ain't cheap. Cheap work ain't good

@Ty Hart $100 per room just to mud the joints? That's pricey, but I suppose if you have a bunch of other crap to do it might be worth it just to save 3 days.

100 dollars per room to do the shitty part no one likes? They got a deal

@@brentiers that is actually very cheap. How many rooms.. say five. Only five hundred bucks that is dirt cheap. Id be worried hiring someone who worked that cheap.

$100 per room?!?! How long ago was this? I'll fly him in and put him up in a hotel with as much work as he wants for that price

@@LittleBunnyKungFoo just don't mention that each room is 1000 square feet lol

No shit, lol!!

Typical trumpanzee

@@1219santiago and you're a typical racist Ed.

@@1219santiago Keep voting for the authoritarians buddy. 👍 We'll be in camps before too long.

@@MMGJ10 fear monger much? You dopes live in fear ! They are coming for us ! Bunch of dopes

Same here. I'm no pro drywaller, but I've done a good bit, and never anything this terrible. I'd be embarrassed as hell to ask for money for that.

Professionals do a shit job most of the time man. Professionals focus on doing a good enough job as fast as possible. So most of the time you get C and B level work. You can do it yourself for A level work just with more time.

@@Lolatyou332 I think most of my work was in the B+ range, but I always set standards for myself a little higher than I can feasibly reach lol

@@MMGJ10 I've done dry wall too man. I'd be ashamed of my work if that's what I had to show. Even just watching RU-vid videos about how to do it. You realize how to do it correctly. These people that cant follow directions are the worst, like bro why are you trying to spread miss information

@@Lolatyou332 agree going fast is name of game but, I see gradeA finish work all the time.

Bingo

If i did drywall, it doesnt matter how much it cost. They agree to do the job and did a shity one. When i was doing minimum wage at goodyear, all the cars I work on was the best that I know how to do. I took pride even though i get paid minimum wage.

@@internalharm Agree with this. I get “knowing your worth” but that means not accepting low paying jobs not doing a shitty job because you’re getting payed low. If you don’t like the pay, don’t do the job

Sometimes…but usually it’s because tradesmen these days just do sloppy ass work. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to find “pros” at any price range to do quality work.

A typical contractor's response. Though has some degree of truth to it. Usually the "going" range is pretty wide, so "too cheap" is subjective

Well that’s gay!

How dust you take it? Those conversations can be difficult.

Best comment on here by far!!!

I don't comment often, but Squad had got me in tears! Way to go!

Still, that kind of quality should not be coming from professionals. Looks like a whiskey cut. One too many shots and handed a router 🤣

He's not panicking. He's refusing to pay for shitty work. Holy fuck. If you think this kind of work is acceptable then you are a part of the problem.

@@isaackvasager9957 excuse me! my bad, I didn't mean to offend all the drywall prima donnas and all the drywall snobs. so let me get back in my place over here with all the drywall Jack legs and the drywall hacks🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🐂💩

@@aaronhammond778 Not really offended. It's just the fact that the quality of work performed was far from someone who was even half way competent in the field. If a homeowner or really just your average Joe had presented something like that, no biggie, just means more work for them later, live and learn. If a professional does that kinda work, non stop bitching from the finishers and if they do bad the painters will get on their asses. Just horrible stuff. I did framing, drywall, and all the mud work for years. Still far from a master but I know the standard of quality. When I do work for friends, I deliver a job worth twice as much, for nothing but maybe a beer.... when the work is done lmao.

@@TheOfficialDjProduct understood and well taken. I'm just expressing myself as someone who has had to come in behind other people's sloppy work and fix and repair things and to me it was no big deal because I have knowledge in using quick set mud to hide a multitude of sloppy cuts and gaps to make the end result finish product look awesome.

Agreed got to finish hanging before you start mudding unless it's multiple rooms and you got a couple guys hanging and a couple guys mudding....

I concur doctor

Structolite and Durabond 90 would take care of most of that.

@@jefferyepstein9210 why 90? Why not use some 20 and get it done faster...or use some 45 with added accelerator....

Hmmm. The over cut devices are a problem. The drywall mud can break when the electrician installs the devices. If you don't give special attention to those areas you'll have an issue later. I have used strips of metal stud bent into the hole to prevent breakage and worked great.

you suppose he took the cheapest bid too?

Exactly. There’s an expression in Spanish that essentially translates the idea; “The musical band always sounds bad when you pay them in advance.”

@@domusdebellum3042 of course, see my reply to william myers comment

@@domusdebellum3042 if these losers bid higher do you really think the job would have came out better?

@@jayc4715 maybe you dont understand what multiple bids means. its not one person submitting multiple, its many companies submitting a single bid each. unless the client adds work, a contractors bid usually will not go up after submitted.

Exactly what I thought watching this. been hanging and finishing drywall for like 3-4 years and ik all it needs is a lil prep work with some tape and durabond on those busted corners/edges and fucked up box cuts. Wayyyy cheaper and quicker than to tear it all down and restart lol

@@Tpowershutdown :)...Exactly, I've fixed stuff that makes that job, look like it was done by 15 years union trained Irish rockers in Boston...:)

Yeah, not as bad as it sounds,

Yeah, not as bad as it sounds, I care more about the finished result than the process. Some guys are amazing spacklers but it doesn’t seem that way before the end.

I thought people would bash this guy for being so critical. Somebody that's good with mud can cover that shit up easy. It's kind of like stopping an artist halfway through his picture saying I know what your drawing isn't gonna turn out good. Wierd.

If it was one or two defects then sure. But if every box is WAY overcut, drywall damaged all over the place, you can tell they don't know what they're doing. Clear here they don't/can't use a rotozip, or a tape measure.

repairs on EVERY sheet? Cmon

@@Donnybrook10 You don't have to rotozip the windows and conerbead wasn't done yet but they job looked like it was going to shit but everything there was easily salvageable

There’s so much work out there right now those guys probably packed up their tools and were working on another job within the hour. That’s part of the problem, you can’t find skilled craftsmen because they all have jobs. As a contractor, what you’re left to pick from are guys that do substandard work or they are just learning the trade. If you do have good guys, you better hang on to them.

Whilst some truth in this, the whole thing is a mistake.

I agree. Would have never paid then half upfront showing up late

I dont have an hour for you to cut a hole. Lets move junior

Rotozip makes it easy

because the electric boxes were a problem for them and they lacked the skill to measure and cut. You can see what their intent was.

I was wondering the same thing.

My thoughts exactly!

Yeah but. It says alot about your general knowledge. He paid for Pros. Got just Reggi drywall guys. Its sloppy. You know that. And just because you can hide it with mud. Well , say no more

@@jeromeduffy9270 it’s not hiding it just perfecting the job..

@@draketracy6969 Ehh I ain't too sure. I can do that. Why pay good money for sub standard

Gaps around electrical outlets are fire hazards. Yes, they can be fixed, but that isn't what you want to start with on a fresh job. Everything about that guy's experience said, fire them. I hope he got some of his money back.

I have become a DIYer because of those reasons, I have paid for services that look worse if I done them smh..

@@fidelgarcia5683 that's funny

@@edzachary8657 it's a fact. When I write software I do research and follow best practices. DIY is not far off from that. That said, I've explicitly forbidden to let contractors get into my house unless it is extremely necessary.

@@walterdiaz2003 It's so funny how many of us IT individuals have this mentality. I didn't know the first thing about DIY when I bought my house 6 years ago, but I viewed it just like I would a web project and did the research, bought the necessary tools and did it step by step. I always just assumed that professionals were the way to go for these projects, but it turns out sometimes doing it yourself is far more satisfying, even if it has a little bit of a learning curve. I only hire contractors now for extremely difficult or dangerous tasks and attempt to do the rest myself. Good luck to you!

@@goomba478 When you solve problems that are highly complex all day every day, while constantly self educating, these types of tasks are not very intimidating. If you can handle CSS, you can handle drywall ;P

Why did your gender have anything to do with your new found drywall skills!?

This made me uncomfortable. I'm a female and hang drywall with my eyes closed and looks beautiful. It's like your undermining urself. Pitiful.

apples and oranges. This garage is relatively new construction with perfect right angles. There's no excuse.

Just an FYI. When you have walls that are that rough, that's what strapping and Cedar Shakes are used for

You can fix a lot of that, but damn ... you shouldn't have to. Cost more to fix than it does to hang it right to begin with.

Nothing mud cant fix. Lol

I would just duct tape the joints and then spray paint the duct tape. They say duct tape can fix anything

@@andrewferguson8032 lol classy fix. Although you can just buy white ducttape and cut out a step

@@Teh_Random_Canadian why didn’t I think of that?

They drank that money Mon-Thursday

They shuld do real brick or concrete walls and problem solved. Whit all rescpect but you my American friends like yo build and live in Toy houses Made almost like they where cardboard.

@@AlexMartinez-hr5gm Brick and concrete is cost prohibitive. Drywall is cheap.

@@ericjones1621 Here in México almost every house Is build whit Brick and concrete. I dont get why that would be prohivitibe in a succesfull country like yours.

@@AlexMartinez-hr5gm this isn't true at all

@@AlexMartinez-hr5gm Mexico manufactures a boat load of bricks.

I gave you a like just for your name alone

I thought it was funny that the ceiling is harder to drywall then the walls and an electrician (me) did a way better job then the 'pro' did on the walls. I've addressed the outlets numerous times in the comments. And the wasted board is $11 sheets of drywall, I'll spend the extra $50 to not have to deal with the lifetime of cracking around outlets and switches. Probably more place could crack too because this isn't a full time heated garage temps will vary nearly 100 degrees.

On point!

Your ceiling is horrible bro... Did they ever say they were "Pros"? Probably not

@@ambientretreats2529 The ceiling is tapeable, maybe a bit of extra work but nothing horrible. I do a lot of drywall quality checks, the ceiling was much better than a lot of pros get away with right now.

These guys very obviously had about 0 training. You would have to know they are like this unless this is their first ever job under your company.

All contractors imo. Fail to show up for something they schedule: fired.

They already had half their cost upfront. Firing them for being late is literally throwing money away

LOL, reminds me of a job my sister contracted out some years ago. They undertook to remove the lead paint from the walls and repaint. My brother in law and I walked in after they'd been at it for 4 or 5 hours and they had plastic sheeting everywhere and the walls were all primed. My BIL made a few sarcastic comments to me in a loud voice and we noticed the guys stiffened. We pressed them about the removal of the lead and the cheekiest bastard said they'd done it. What?? 4 hours and you've stripped and primed?? Woow you're far too good. Or cheats. He didn't like that and when I scaped some of the primer away there was the previous paint. The prick then said that they've yet to do that wall. BIL said 'so you prime the wall and take it all off with the lead, am I right?' he said yep and we both burst out laughing. The guy then said to my sister, 'Look lady, I don't think we could give you the finish you are looking for' then started to pack up.They were so quick to get out that they left a number of tools, about 10 litres of paint and all their plastic rolls. It was a good laugh but we had to clean it up and eventually did it ourselves. The other issue with these grubs, they scam single women and old people who have to later pay to get it all done again. Properly.

Good contractors are hard to find. Which is why referrals are so important, talk to friends who had work done, if they had a good trademen then use them. If they are 20% more, there is a reason for that

As far as electrical. This garage has 100A service panel, whole garage surge protector, 18-8' LED lights, lots of plugs, 3 flood lights outside, LED soffet lighting, 3 - 30A welder outlets, a 2 post car lift and coming soon ... 10,000 watts of solar panels. I'll probably make a video when its done, but being that it is winter and I'm doing it in my spare time it will be spring before it's finished.

good points

Cut edges at doors and windows dont matter they will be boxed with trim, youll never see it

@@ambientretreats2529 cut edges don't matter. Butt joints do.

I always make sure the jobs are clean. Becaus most people look and the surroundings.

1.) I had plans to do the drywall but was too busy and running out of time. Winter was here, really wanted it sealed and heated. I knew, I was going to hire a drywall guy. So I figured, hire the drywall guy and let him put up 11 sheets of drywall. 2.) There bid was ridiculously low at $2K. In reality this is probably a $6000 job. This is where I messed up. I underestimated the skills it takes to do drywall. I thought how bad could you fk it up?! 3.) I paid them upfront because I didn't care, $800 was almost nothing when the garage is costing $35K+. They said they were ready to start and I was excited to lock in that, too good to be true deal.

They shuld do real brick or concrete walls and problem solved. Whit all rescpect but you my American friends like yo build and live in Toy houses Made almost like they where cardboard.

Never in 18 years have I seen a crew that hung and couldn’t finish.

A good job starts with the beginning process being done correctly. Mudding can only help so much. Also when you say "band aids" that should only ever be done for a mistake... not a solution to poor handiwork.

@@austinwolfe7295 well kinda… I mean I could easily fix all of those .

thought I was only one who actually did this.. incredible🙏🏼

Are you serious? This is disgusting work. You should never have to pre fill that much and that is very sloppy work. Butts of the sheets are breaking on the same stud in 2 rows, those gaps are ridiculous and for “doing a lot of drywall” that’s unacceptable work. Try pulling that in multi million dollar homes

@@beanz4033 to be honest, I didn't look at it that closely. I was just saying that drywall is pretty easy to fix and make it look perfect.

Exactly

Hangers are cheep for a Reason

99.9% of failures of mesh tape are from not using hot mud with it. I still wouldn't tape with it but great for repairs.

I think u supposed to than how would you install the boxes

Boxes are firstfix in the uk Switches after plaster is complete

Not needed separately. You can prefill while your taping.

@@doofusmaguilacutee4998 I find pre filling with 90 is best..it doesn't shrink

@Ed wouldn't know anything about being in the military or doing man things...cuz he's a BETA

Good drywallers dont nail, they screw. Dont nail drywall... Especially ceilings

@@ambientretreats2529 In my experience, most of them tack all the drywall up on the top and bottom, then move on to the next room while some other guy screws off the walls. And yes, they screw the lids. Doesn't change what they did to get those wedge-shaped tears. They beat it in when it was too tight.

@@ricoludovici2825 I feel you, I work solo so no nails, but i see how crews might "prehang" I guess, makes sense.

Oh ya I broke my rule of going with the middle of the road priced guy and went with the cheapest. 100% a lapse in judgment on my part or possibly I wasn't giving the proper credit and resect to the skill of a good drywall guy.

@@440Trick yes, myself my wife and one other guy did a job that size recently, hung finished, primed and painted in...... 1 day! Believe it or not. 20 minutes set type mud mixed and applied by 3 people at same time really gets things going. Then i wet slick finish it, looks like plaster when im done.

@@440Trick also i charge more than most but my progress levels are what your paying for. Sorry that happened to ya. Really screwed up situation.

Dont think so. Why would you do that?

Raha not sure what part you mean by you don’t think so. I’ve been a contractor in the remodeling business for 19 years and hung more board feet of drywall than I care to remember. Cutting out electrical boxes is much easier with no electrical devises installed. Any full time drywall hanger would have made you remove them. Glueing drywall to the studs means less screws in the middle of the board. In return less time finishing and no future screw pops. You can post a video of your poor job you where getting (that you were) but watch some on hanging techniques. Just my opinion.

@@JeremyWatson3355 Wow, I work for the govt so, needless to say, quality and efficiency are not a priority. That said, never seen it done that way but I'll ask the electricians. Plainly much easier for the drywallers. So you have the electricians do the boxes ?! Very surprised. Never seen glue used either, nice idea but seems like it would be time consuming and expensive. What area of the country are you in?

As an electrician, I would never put my devices in before drywall goes up lmao. There would be mud in every hole of every receptacle. That would basically be asking for my stuff to get wrecked. I don't even like putting my devices in before paint. But I guess it's done differently everywhere. Some drywallers & mudders must be good enough to work around them.

@@thiscommentmightbefunny.1810 What areas are you guys in? I work around all trades and a couple guys at work build homes on the side so I will be asking around. This is honestly pretty weird, I would think you guys are screwing with me but that would be weird also. I'm in the OKC area.

Not true. Wish it was! Sometimes you pay top buck and get screwed over sometimes you pay bargain basement and get screwed over.

Cant argue that Brah

@@mrobvious5892 Seen that too.

You’re right I believe that. Number one the guy was doing a OK job. Number two: The owner was probably paying cheap wages.

I don't do much residential because they never seem to realize the value in some trades. "Oh, it's just mud work. I've seen it on RU-vid. It isn't difficult". Same with replacing a door, etc. Commercial customers understand the value and those project managers pay out for that kind of money everyday. They are not suprised with sticker shock.

Exactly.....once it's taped and mudded it will be fine....smh

Yeah I thought this vid was kind of petty crap honestly. Sure some things could be better like the outlets but the door and window🤨come on guy you kidding me with “idk how you trim over that”. Ya hire a pro trimmer that’s how you trim over that, guy! Jeez man. Hahaha

@@daltonking3723 what do you mean, there no drywall to back the trim?

@@440Trick were you planning on a drywall jamb or a wood jamb? Drywall jamb would be tough with how car back them cuts are I would say. But Wood jamb would come out from the window flush to the drywall face and then trim would be nailed to the jamb and out on top of the drywall. Now if the drywall is back from the wood framing more than 2” then yes it’s a poor job but if it’s closer to the window then your ok, a trim carpenter can easily remedy that. Hope this makes sense and helps. I’m a master carpenter/ drywall/ general contractor and have learned how to work with other trades.

Trim floats, box that sht in. Its fine

I think there is some codes for that. This is a detatched garage.

Fiba tape and durabond 90 will never crack. Better yet. Mesh tape and perlite, cement and sheetrock 45 and all purpose the same day and call it a day. .👍

@@kirklewis3627 Okay, found the contractor. Mesh tape is better? Or paper tape for ease of use?

Yes, Mesh or fiba tape your seams. Paper tape your butts. You must use sheetrock or durabon on seams for ultimate bond. Put butts on with all purpose once dried. Go wide from the middle of paper tape to level wall with sheetrock. Once dried. Coat seams and butts with all purpose. End result is your base coat is solid and wont crack, the top coat is sandable, once dried sand heavy edges lightly ,a third tight coat over everything removes all little pockets for cleaner finish, less sanding. Follow these instruction for a premium finish, top dollar work. Have a great sunday.

@@kirklewis3627 Damn, I'll try to soak that in. Thank you.

@@nimrodery 1 step at a time. Mix small amounts 8th- quarter pale. Mix thick add water by hand to thin down to desired consistency. You got it.👍

I was thinking the same thing. I’ve been in the drywall business for 8 years and let me tell you, I’ve seen some shit but nothing like this!

You can do some california patch for those over cuts for the switches and receptacles... Those cuts for windows r good enough for trims, even if you use drywall for windows a good metal corner bead will cover those over cuts..

I find ceilings to be the easy part, it's just a big wall with almost no plugs. But yeah, this is the sort of job you do for yourself after watching a couple RU-vid vids (hopefully the right ones).

Side note, recently ran out of mesh late on a Sunday, borrowed some from my neighbor, it was paper tape... I remember now why I stopped using paper years ago. Mesh is the way to go.

Are you the contractor he fired? lol. If you say their poor work is acceptable, you haven't seen a decent dry wall work. That's all I'm saying.

@@nukestrom5719 If I was the contractor his garage would be a pile of ashes...lol

Over-cut outlets is a sign of a sloppy, inexperienced crew. Their finish would have been s h i t. I can tell by the mud they already started. These guys were high, no doubt in my mind. A good choice to fire them.

Love when hacks don't know they're hacks

@@islamerica3032 - guy there’s plenty wrong with this job. Butt joints aren’t even staggered. Huge pieces missing in the corners. You can’t mud a corner like that and get a good finish. Gaps not pre filled. I’m no expert but fackin hell I see everything that is wrong here.

Totally true