Firefly RUINED Honkai: Star Rail? 

Bro is reacting to a reaction video reacting to a reaction video, what has mr. pokke come to

Bald on bald violence 😭

Tectone doesn't argue to come to an understanding, he argues to win

Tectone will never admit when he is wrong even when it stares him dead in his face.

ya im skipping this drama harder than Jades banner. almost an hour is a decent gym workout, let alone their own videos

There are quite a few videos of people clearing AS and other modes with just 4-star characters. Tectone is just salty because he couldn't just auto the last stage of AS and not read the requirement of breaking the enemy first to do massive damage. There is power creep but it's not like older characters can't clear the current MOC, PF, and AS.

Don’t let this distract you from the fact that FF can’t kill trotters especially Numby

I started playing in 1.6 on the 2nd half of the patch when Ruan Mei was running. I was spending a good chunk of change on most character banners, probably 100-150 per charcter I wanted to ensure E0S1 for most of them. Despite doing that, I wasn't using money to refresh or anything, just battlepass and monthly pass and played every single day. Even with being that dedicated to playing the game and enjoying it so much, I didn't manage to full 3 star clear MoC till SAM's MoC, which was SIX MONTHS after I started. Sure I was wasting a lot of resources and didn't really start learning how to build teams and characters well for the first 3 months but still, I was playing every day, using my stamina every day, and it took me that long to full clear while spending. My point being that despite spending money on pretty much every new character from Ruan Mei's first run going forward, I didn't full clear simply cause I pulled the characters. I still had to put in a ton of time and get lucky on relic rolls, learn how to build my teams correctly, start spending stamina wisely and just being smarter overall about how to play. I'll admit I'm nowhere near the average player. But the fact that Tectone thinks anyone should be entitled to just starting and being able to full clear every piece of content is just plain idiotic and shits on all the time the players like me and others that full clear all the content have put in to learning the mechanics of the game and building our characters.

28:28 Um akchually 🤓$500 can get you 1875 pulls assuming you spend it solely on the Express Supply Pass for 100 months straight or 8.33 years.

no one ruined anything in single player game, its just fomo not that deep

ah yes 2 bald dudes with the same facial hair style duking it out over a fictional mech girl

I love how decorative Pokke is in this video

this other bald guy is power creeping tectone in baldness

Tectone arguing for the 99% majority of the playerbase aka "f2p casuals" who have never opened MoC in their life, about how they should be able to get max rewards from all endgame content. Even if you make it easier, they're still not gonna go there due to anxiety or lack of knowledge in the game.

I think the point MrPokke brought up resonates with me the most, we are on Hoyo platter and whatever they feel like doing they will, we dont know how far are they willing to push the powercreep or unit or archetype shilling. That annoys me the most about hoyo games, whether be it star rail, genshin or zzz, whatever they put out whether its good or not we will have to eat it up because they are that big.

I mean, there are CN 0 cycle clears with seele with 4 star characters and f2p LCs...granted relic quality is high, but nothing unattainable. She's literally the 1st unit to be released in this game. And yet people are able to this with her cause they want to and have put in the work for it. And the fact of the matter is, firefly would not clear as well with any 4 star support (hmc isn't a 4 star and we know it) in this game. So which js it? Newer units decimating older ones? The game just fucks over older units? Both? Neither? When u think about it, the newer units simply have it a lil easier but that's the problem, people only want easy results in gacha games and it is what it is. Since newer supportive units get released and the fundamental design of the relic system, older units can keep up and even excel in the right conditions...we all saw the rise of himeko, clara, and even JY. Hell, kafka became the top of the meta with the release of B.S when people were shitting on her even BEFORE launch. Topaz became one of the most lucrative units with the follow up comp despite her questionable value to many people on her release. Powercreep isn't a problem in this game or any single-player gacha, and that's a fact. It's greed and recency bias. Reminder that a dot from an asta basic would do more dmg tham e6 s5 acheron against a traffic light. Yeah... These units we love are only as good as mihoyo allows us to make them within the context of the game itself...not compared to newer toys.

Tectone's brain is as smooth as his head.

The game is not the one ruined by Firefly but the wallets of many

Why do people think that characters who are able to implant weakness on their own are broken when they literally only have one way to do damage which is breaking? Also applying weakness doesn't remove the resistance like with SW so you're going to be doing less damage anyway. Only an idiot would play firefly on a fully fire resistant MOC. Also, there are already enemies that have toughness bar locking mechanics. This why I stop watching tecc bro doesn't even know what he is talking about.

I swear people will complain about a game being to easy, looking at ZZZ. Then, turn around and complain about a game being to hard 😂. If you have been playing HSR since it came out, then you should be able to clear all the content. If you are a new player, then you should not expect to clear all the content.

Cut my balls if Bald Man not gonna say this in Wuthering Waves 8 months from now. It looks like Gacha Games are designed that way.

They gave out harmony MC for free… one of the single most meta defining and powerful characters in the games history…? They didn’t even lock the super break support behind a limited character.

LOL Tectone immediately disregarding because "he spent $500". Well, I spent $0 and I fullclear auto MOC even Apocalyptic Abyss.

Tectone is right , we are wrong What he mean of "lose" is not cant clear endgame content, but cant utilize the buff Even if you can clear MoC with 0 cycle as long as you cant utilize the buff that mean you "lose" 🤣🤣

its not meta problem if you can still see full 4* team 3star MOC 12

"Friendly fire will not be tolerated!"

these two wont even need to talk in a discord channel they can communicate via morse code with the light shining off their heads

the reason why hair leaves the scalp is because of lack of iron in the blood it's the same for trees no iron and the top stem becomes bare of Leafs and I'm not saying it as a joke.

The funny thing teccy is basically describing exactly how Genshin META is where all roads lead to XIANGLING 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥 Jokes aside, I think HSR is now on Hyperbloom phase in GI. Easy to build and easiest to clear with FF. At end of the day, It really doesn't matter as long people can still clear with old units. Seele being 1.0 is still S tier. Clara is still relevant. Himeko/Herta OP tier in PF. Yanqing continues to be fraud. At least for now, It's not a problem in HSR.

Its hard for me to take anything Tectone says from a meta perspective just because, frankly, hes not good at the game. His whole argument would hold water, if there werent people know clearing MOC, AS, PF with 1.0 characters. But the fact that these characters are still relevant, kinda disproves powercreep in the way that hes talking about it. Theres a dude thats clearing all of endgame with 4* only units with no sig LC's (Shoutout to Ruri Goko) so hate to break it to yall, but if you have half decent built accounts, you not clearing content is a skill issue. I feel like the people argeeing with tectone are the people that pull on EVERY banner, dont vertically invest in the comps they already have, and just want the shiny new toy. When you do that, yeah, you can make the arguement that endgame requires the new banner character. But smarter players, that commit to 2-3 archtypes and invest in their characters dont have that problem. They invest in their units, only pull characters that would actually benefit their current teams, and use stam wisely. Theres skill in not only playing the game, but also building out your account. We are a year into this game, and 1.0 characters are still clearing endgame, which is already miles better than most gacha's. Do newer units require lower investment levels to clear? In some cases yes. Are they absolutely required? No, and the perfect example is SUPA BREAK himeko slapping this MOC. TLDR: Playing and account building is a skill set, and if your a longtime player still struggling to clear endgame, its a skill issue, respectfully

I'm gonna say this again, Mr,. Pokke's our account review with Xethrion was actually very insightful and he has a great take about powercreep in HSR. Powercreep in HSR is gonna be more noticeable since it is one of the few ways for people to pull characters since there's no pvp

I finished building FF a week before her banner even ended without using stamina refresh. This is despite everyone starting literally at 0 since her relic and planar sets both came out at the same time as her so no pre farming. Thats how fast super break teams are built

"Have this character or you lose." As a person who knows what losing a few Stellar Jades feels like it ain't that deep man, hsr is still a top quality game

I made a f2p alt account towards the end of fu xuans og banner. I would consider myself a tryhard. The biggest issue with f2p imo is the resources. Nameless Honor grants so many resources its insane. It lets you invest in more characters. Overall, Im having a great and fun experience with my f2p account. I tend to 3 star all the content most of the time. There are times when the buffs on the end game content dont benefit my team comps well at all.

the only horrible take is the one that MrPokke ain't a relatable f2p streamer with amazing neutral community and with only authentic and unpaid chatters 🔥🔥🔥

Kektone has skill issues. That's it. I've been playing since GGZ. The only game they have (which is still active today) that has a serious power creeping was Honkai 3rd. LOL.

Also in regards to that 1 million scanned, many of those accounts could just not have been logged into for months as well. They don't specify active and non active accounts

As an day 1 free to play I can say I'm not that frustrated about it, usually take it more like a challenge and I was really happy and had so much fun when harmony MC was out, even more than acheron and firefly, I was using Luka, himeko, even Welt and having an absolute blast, something I can say is that I feel like having some level of awareness of leaks is the smart move when one is to be a f2p. I kinda agree with pokke on the fact that casual f2p are not the same at all as a sweaty f2p, of all the people I think maybe the only ones that are suffering are f2p that pull without having some awareness of meta and leaks and are also sweaty somehow, which is kinda surreal, really

Tectone responding to this guy cause he thought he can win the argument but not responding to Iyo's video when Iyo proved him wrong is such a pussy move 😂😂. Also 8:43 he said something about using brain and strategy while he complains last AS cause he didn't know what the boss mechanics, HMC superbreak, Firefly enhanced attack is such a ingenious thing to say. Especially when he himself doesn't play the game, but his mods does it for him 😂

I just realized that the intro is playing come as you are

Acheron banner was better for my new to HSR friends. Because acheron had free dr ratio and the next banner was adventurine, crazy sustain carry. It was hard to build ratio and acheron at the beginning for sure though

I feel like in HSR, the current cycle buffs for MoC/PF are much more essential to max star clears compared to Genshin (or at least Genshin's first 3 years, idk what it's like now). Abyss felt like you had a bonus to using the latest character (who you probably didnt have fully built yet if the boss mats/artifact set were new), but it wasn't so hard that you felt forced to use the latest flavor of the month teams, it was easy to 'brute force' with the same teams built around a bunch of 4*s.

Super Break = Dendro, thats how much it broke the game and we all saw how dendro affected Genshin.

The true just pull what ever you want it. Can't clear Moc full stars? Or PF? Or apocalip shadow? Who care just 60 jades less everage.

Ever since the SAM MoC I've been able to fully clear every piece of end game content with all stars. Low spender, all E0 characters, only Acheron's sig LC. I even skipped Followup meta entirely yet was still able to get through Aventurine MoC using my DoT team (with Asta, because I didn't have Ruan Mei) because I realized Kafka's Follow up was allowing me to get the 6th attack in a turn to trigger the MoC buff. The idea that the buff only works for 1 character is such a dogshit take, people used Himeko and Gui in place of Firefly to utilize the latest break-centric MoC buff.

i still didn't see any powercreep in my game

2024 has so many people debating about a damn gacha game. Just play and have fun.

BREAKS the meta, but firefly kinda saved my account because my DHIL was good but my jing yuan and seele are not good enough for the harder content. Lost a lot of 50/50s (including losing on Acheron) and had guaranteed firefly and signature light cone. I can clear pretty much anything now because of firefly

I am one of those people who had to build a full new team just so firefly does not suck ass, it is not a enjoyable experience i can confirm

I have really bad luck when it comes to relic farming so i have always disliked carry metas where the relics are everything. I aopreciated that they brought the dot builds to the front and break teams with hmc. Its so much more fun to not be cucked by an arbitrary rng system that just never hits.

When my Gallaghar started doing 160k superbreak dmg (built as a healer) , maybe they r not complete wrong where game is going

Firefly just bulldozes everything in her way, she really did break star rail

it's very easy for Hoyo to wall out Super Break... Shields, Multi-layer toughness, Toughness barriers.. Break dps needs their weakness implant to even do anything..

I like what Pokke has to say don't really know how I feel about the other two.

Just introduce gimicks to disrupt auto-ing endgames😂. (like the traffic lights, or mechanics that negate nukes if you're not paying attention that the elite has put up its invulnerability buff) I think FGO introduced multiple breakbars when many units can oneshot bosses with new meta supports.

18:43 agree if you read the instructions on the gamemode they already tell you that you need to utilize whatever buff you picked.

thanks pokke for being 1 of the only gacha content creators that doesnt immediately annoy me and i can actually listen to u lol

This is such a funny arguement for me cause I’m a bp buyer and I have been using JY since he came out and I skipped Acheron and I have been clearing moc with him. Tbh hsr has done a good job of giving buffs to characters to keep them up to date power wise. I have no complaints about meta

Yeah that part about casual F2P getting max rewards in one try is silly. At that point noone would have a game to play. Max rewards in Hoyo games even as F2P is at the worst very doable and most commonly quite easy. I first max cleared MoC I think right when FuXuan came out and haven't missed any max rewards since in any mode. That is fully F2P account status (technically 15 bucks total for 3 passes but I never dropped below 20k jades). Funnily, in MoC it IS mostly 1 try. ApoShadow and PF are harder on my account. For PF my only Erudition is Herta. No Himeko, zero 5 star DoT units, no Firefly. Also didn't use Acheron in the new one because she didn't work well (sub 30k points). Still, after finding the right team I was able to get max rewards every time. Heck ApoShadow I did with Seele and Jingliu just because I wanted to not trivialize it with Acheron. My only signature LC is Acherons and my only limited Eidolon is FuXuan E1 (at 4 pity..). Everything else is E0 with Herta shop or 4 star LCs, and most of those aren't even close to S5. But if you're F2P and *not* playing every day idk why anyone would expect to get all rewards. You're not following the games intended gameplay loop at that point so, duh?

tectone became so powerful to versions of him exists on our timeline

on my f2p no pulls 4 star only account I 0 cycle full auto first try moc12 apocalyptic shadow autism universe every time

Bro would anyone believe me when I say I make around 500/month? There's bills, rent, then I also gotta eat, and that's just my damn self, those Americans often forget how privileged they can be

seeing 3 tectones in one screen is crazy

To me, having DOT, hypercarry, crit, break effect, follow up teams based on the availability of characters allows players to tailor their team comps. Considering 4* options and standard 5* units, you can do crit, and DOT teams at most, with a little hypercarry. I don’t agree that if you dont have this character, don’t bother. Remember genshin had characters that can shield, and then enemies had a way of reducing your HP even with shield on. In the future, there could be enemies that will have immunities to certain team comps, and that will require you to have many teams that can circumvent those immunities. Break effect teams weakness is that some units toughness bars cannot be reduced. DoT teams can freely enjoy because at the moment, there is nothing giving them a hard time, unless there are DoT immune enemies, or enemies that can cleanse debuffs.

"if you cant auto with a completely f2p team and get max rewards on your first attempt it means im right" 😭😭😭

Personally, I'm eccstatic that newer characters don't require too much relic investment. Grinding for relics with RNG is the worst part of HSR's gameplay for me.

Tectone VS. Tectone

Damn. The Dramaception is at it NUCLEAR PEAK.

Hot take but I don't think if you spent $500 on a character you wanted or liked that you should be considered a whale. If anything, maybe a whale moment. Been playing gachas since around 2016 and from what I understood, whales are people that spend up to thousands on every single new unit or character that comes out, thats why they are called whales. At most, the dude in the video could be considered a dolphin. Nowadays people love saying anyone who spends over X amount of money is a whale, but by that logic even monthly pass buyers will be considered whales when 3rd anniversary arrives and they've bought the same $5 pass for 30+ months

we got pokke reacting to tectone reacting to tectone from walmart reacting to tectone before gta 6

Us players clearing everything with max stars with only 4 stars 🤯

I see Pokke losing his hair reacting to this

well, I played HSR from day 1, on the early days I can't even constanly beat phantilya until I got Fu xuan. my team at that time only consist of what, seele sw natasha and tingyun probably. so yeah, I had a hard time on the early, mid and late game so its still the same difficulty for me. even for now the PF first half pretty hard for me while I have clara, since the enemy didn't attack at all like the bug wait for explode then i lost my control on clara, she didn't even proc the counterattack.

Tectone bending the facts to fit his narrative

Pokke with the nuclear reasonable takes

the double standards of these people that say they dont need to compare x game to y game when the situation favors that and then go back to comparing them again just to get a one up on the game that they shill on

Two eggs beefing it out, peak content

I have true F2P experience since this game launched at the first day, I can clear any content even 3 star on end game content after 6 months gameplay It's hard but it is not impossible (But you know....sometimes if you can't clear, you just can't clear as F2p, I deeply understand😢)

I mean, she's ruined it for me. In the sense that after I pulled her, I started thinking, "Why am I not just playing a full rpg?" and I dont have a good answer for why not. Since for the price of pulling one copy of a character, you can buy a full rpg game. If youre fully f2p HSR makes some sense, but if you're someone who's willing to spend money on on games, like me, then Star Rail becomes a really bad value proposition both in time and money because every new character is the price of a new game and the story is infinitely mid compared to a full release rpg. Once I realized this internally, I lost all interest in the game and personally rate it as the worst gatcha in terms of value.

crazy that genshin devs mastered the powercreep problem by making dps more and more niece and have old powerful 4 strars. Quite genius tbh.

RIP DanIL E2 in F2P accounts.

Pretty sure Seele can still go in and clear MOC 12...so where is the creep? Pretty sure I watched a video where a dude with ass invested free characters cleared the newest game mode and MOC. So where is the creep? If there is power creep in a PVE game, the devs are fucking up badly and that's all there is to it. Insane how in 1.1 of WuWa too people are ALREADY talking about power creep like fuck people, just play whoever and you will still win.

dont need to watch this video, that bald guy [not tectone, the other one] had some arrogant and weird moments before which led me to stop watching his content by the third video or so. I'm good.

I started playing the game 3 months ago and can clear full star everything, i think people that can't clear at all are just skill issued

Oh no pokke watches the egg

Imagine someone else is reacting to pokke's this video 💀💀💀💀

Late upload moment lmao but I agree with Tectone mostly when it comes to F2P players who are day 1 players who don't play everyday because they're not getting enough jades to grab the new shiny DPS but at the end of the day Players need to put effort in grinding better relics The game has auto play and if you can't click auto, you're lazy lmao

I don’t think firefly is the problem I think hoyo is the problem, back when Acheron released they did NOT make enemies as big of hp sponges as they are now they decided to only do this for the break teams. I don’t understand why they waited till firefly to double enemies hp bars it’s like their saying “oh you don’t have Acheron or firefly? Drop money now or struggle without immense investment for your every team” it fucked me over on my alt cause I play this game more casually and take breaks once in a while so only a few of my units are well invested in

In the great words of necrit if you walk into a bar ur gonna find liquor if you play a gatcha game the game will be pull to win to some degree Also tec mentions that he got 2 stats and his happy with it and didn’t want to restart that’s him ignoring the skill expression he claims isn’t there trying different teams and trying different optimizations in the battle is the skill expression it’s the same as saying I got 2/3 rd the way through a boss and the game let me progress the I could try again or try different weapons but I’m happy with what I got so I’ll move on if he is ok with that that’s fine but don’t say the game doesn’t have skill expression when ur choosing not to use it

Bro which chat is which 😭

I said it before and I'll say it again It's not as big of an issue if an issue at all, it was the case since game released, new character is always having a buff to make them stronger BUT other characters can still benefit from it and are very capable of clearing content Tectone is actually fighting for very small specific part of the community and not the largest demographic, the largest demographic doesn't care and doesn't even engage with the endgame - stats from prydwen

Anyone who is playing this game for a while and still can't clear endgame content and complaining about powrcreep I think its time for you to stop playing this game and go play candy crush or something 😂 And also the new players not being able to beat endgame is irrelevant because they are not supposed to beat these content in a month of playing. They are called "Endgame" for a reason and you haven't reached it yet 😉

I bet the next meta is going be FUA with enemys only base on the amount of times u hit them 😂

new players today will not be able to reroll fast enough because banner in going down in no time.

Ima b real, I still clear shit with my serval. I don’t even spend that much (monthly and bp). Like ima b honest, there really isn’t a difference between a lucky f2p account, and a person who spends to get a copy of each character. Like he’s assuming that all f2p players hit max pity 💀. Gacha smack has spent a good amount of money on the game, but his account is very relatable. A “whale” account is an account that has e4 -e6 units. But getting a copy of each character? And maybe their weapon? That’s not a whale. If anything, that’s more relatable to how most people play.

I really don't like Ruan Mei as a character. So I pulled Firefly instead of her. I really, really regret it, she cannot do MOC12 without Ruan Mei. So the investment in Firefly isn't about relics, it is about getting the 5 star to support her which sucks just as much for a F2P player who started playing in 2.0 and loses every.single.damn 50/50

Acherons vs Yanqing its not about powercreep. Its about of bad desighned chars. Because even Serval > Yanqing in most cases she is 1.0 4* with him being 1.0 5* both standart.

Bro's characters aren't even built well and he cries cause he can't auto clear 3 star Apocalyptic Shadow lmao. Tectone has been and always will be a clown.

I think you misunderstand tec’s take when he says “do it in one try”, Legionz is beyond overconfident in this video and tec is just challenging that, if he says it’s not a problem and any free to play can do it, he should have no issue proving that in the slightest

"The skill floor and skill ceiling is a lot closer together in HSR" ... HSR TikTok disagrees! 😂😂😂