I love my Fisker Ocean. I have had it now for 4 months, drove it to Florida from the north, and have 3,000 miles on it. As I learn the ins and outs of this car I love it more and more. Fisker, you have my support as you handle the bumps in the road. You have my support! My agenda is to see this company successful!
Fisker is one company I really hope finds its way to mainstream success because they seem to be producing practical real world cars at an affordable-ish price without too many gimmick's.. Just a solid, well designed product...
They are helping push down the prices of other companies. The other companies are catching on and trying to become competitive to Fisker's price ranges. The other car companies are all slowly following Fisker's lead.
Ha there are as many gimmicks in the design as most. The spinning screen, Hollywood mode, California mode, 500 limit boost mode launches, solar roof, hyper mode
Ginny, the comparison to the EX30 in the dimensions is wrong, sorry it is nearly half a meter shorter, so obviously the legroom in the back is less... and yes I do use both glove box and frunk in my EV6! The latter for cables tow bar and dirty boots! I believe people would use it more if you could open it easier! And as for costs: I don't think that anyone would mind the few dollars pounds or € this piece of plastic would cost. If there is space under the hood I want to use it!
Couple of things. 1 the solar roof (in sunny California or similar) is claimed to add 1,500 miles of range per yr not the 150 miles Ginny stated. 2 while it’s a beautiful car it’s pretty heavy (up to 2.434 tonnes EU unladen) thanks to a very large battery pack, while regen is weak so I would wait for longer UK reviews to get a realistic picture of range and efficiency. Also worth noting a lot of software was sub optimal in early European deliveries esp for charger navigation. Definitely worth longer UK reviews and your own test drives.
They claim 1500 but currently it actually doesn't add anything. "Future update" like many other basic functions. Software is super buggy. Car needed another year of testing and the Customer Service is really bad if you don't live within 30 miles of one of their centers.
I really hope they get the basics sorted. Really can’t understand why they didnt slot in a google interface like Polestar Volvo. They may have piled too much on their in house plate @@gimmeroc7172
Saw one of these in a matt finish at at some services on the M6 a couple of weeks ago and was blown away by how good it looks in the metal. One of the most impressive cars I’ve seen in recent years and as you say the pricing seems really competitive. Only concern from the new owners was whether Fisker is going to last the course as a new brand. Time will tell but I certainly hope so…
Bring on the new Renault 5 Retro. That Fisker looks massive. No CarPlay 😳 Does look quite smart all the same. Considering the Company background everyone is just glad to see it on the road. Praise the lord a Secondary screen right in front and and some buttons. Too be fair my glove box is empty and that’s a Macy-Dee’s try. The Volvo EX30 is still the best offering I’ve seen so far. If that comes in for £37k in the U.K. on the road fair play. But who services it outside California…….?
Thank you so much for your wonderful review of the Fisker Ocean. I watched two reviews done here in America recently and not only is there English poor they actually made up new words. It’s nice to have a reviewer that not only speaks English, but understands how to use English properly. Thank you for a wonderful review of the ocean.
Interesting comparison to the Evoque. My first thought was that the front looks very like the latest Evoque with the smaller headlights. The opening back window is interesting too. I once had a Mk1 Freelander. That had an opening window in the rear door. It was a waste of time as the fumes from the exhaust were drawn back into the cabin. Not an issue with an EV of course
It's an AWD SUV, so it'll be mainly driven around town? So what do people who live in the sticks drive? Sports cars? Yes, I use the glove box, and yes, I'd want a frunk to store the charging cables, rather than having to empty the boot area. Other than that, I love the doggy windows, and the opening tailgate window is a brilliant feature. An opening tailgate window makes BMW estates so practical. I was thinking of replacing my old AWD BMW diesel estate with a Model Y Long Range, but the Fisker may be the better choice. But... i can't find anywhere in Yorkshire to test-drive one.
you won’t. way too early in uk for anything except london. they do a travelling test drive experience, so might be worth keeping an eye out. delivery wouldn’t be until mid 24 i think. although they did deliver their first Sport very recently.
Yes, if people who live in the sticks want to get home, a decent list of sports cars literally have more ground clearance than the station wagon Fisker Ocean has. The Ocean has five inches of ground clearance, it is NOT an SUV or “crossover,” a category created by the Subaru Outback which has over eight inches of ground clearance. It is also really heavy so not great handling on curvy mountain roads and poor highway range, owners are saying below 250 miles. Combined with a huge battery pack and a lack of a good charging network, road trips might, or might not, work out okay.
@@tribalypredisposed Very good points - assuming you live in the wilderness. In the UK, a lot of people live in small rural towns and villages, with at worst a muddy track to contend with, with maybe uncleared snow in the winter. I would guess a Fisker AWD would cope just fine. My AWD BMW 335D MSport Touring (ie wagon) has no problems in these settings (I use winter tyres). It weights over 1.8 tonnes, so a bit lighter than a Fisker, but not by a huge margin.
I use the frunk on my Mustang Mach-E all the time. Mainly to put food in so it doesn't stink up the cabin. But I think it's a better place to put things like groceries. Less space for it roll around in. I also use my glove box for document storage for insurance and registration. The trays seem too small to be very useful. I do love the solar roof even if it doesn't provide much extra range. Great video.
I agree I never put fast/takeaway food into the cabin - into the frunk it goes. 18 months on people are saying it still has that new car smell. And a curry spill in your cabin on that cabin carpet oh I’d cry for weeks.
I use my frunk all the time, I keep my cables there, and food water etc for my long journeys, which in my first year of ownership in my Tesla Y has been 2 trips to the alps winter and summer, and 2 trips down to Menorca
Theres alot to like about the Fisker Ocean, one being these are made in Austria, not China, as alot of Teslas are. What scares me a little is if Fisker will be around in a few years, 15:25, and any warranty is best used for kindling. Fisker need to convince Tesla buyers to hand over their cash. With Tesla's charging network thats a tough sell. However charging network and longevity of company concerns aside, I would take an Ocean all day over a Model Y. Although not premium, the Ocean is nicer than the Model Y both inside and out. And it doesnt look like a jellybean.
TIL I don't use my glove box for all my documents, spare bulbs, spare air fresheners and assorted stuff and my charging cables, V2L adapter, warning triangle and first aid kit aren't really in my froot. Meanwhile Fisker's research told me that I really want to wind down the rear window, but not have a wiper on it. Sounds fine in California, but a few hundred miles in Lincolnshire would send me right back to my Niro
I was just going to say that it reminder me of the small Range Rover... when you mentioned it on your video. One great benefit of the Fisker is it should be insurable in UK, unlike any Range Rover that is so stolen in UK.
This thing drives off without even needing a start button. What makes you think that can’t be hacked. One of the most common cars taken by hacking into the key signal now is… the Hyundai Ionic 5 vin fact the thrives actually take over the whole software in the car so it stops sending data & meaning it can’t be tracked.
There is one in our village. It does look fab. Will we ever see in one sale in big numbers? Can control quality? Residuals could be a risk too I did also notice a few things that should be standard are in expensive packs. I hope Fisker make a go of it and it and continue to grow. New entrants have to be better, cheaper or have a USP. I am not sure it has any of those.
From what I gather Fisker has made over 10.000 of the Ocean by now, so while there was some initial issues due to parts deliveries and so they seem up to speed now. And their cars are build by Magna Steyr in Austria which also does the Mercedes G-wagon, the electric Jaguar and more I think should mean quality control is not an issue.
@@alangravy27 depends where you live, and how you charge, as to whether Tesla's network is a USP and whether it is one that will sell the car... eg if you almost exclusively charge at home then the network is not particularly relevant, and it depends on the density of other charging options (I am in the UK, and understand that the US might be different in number of options, and typical driving distances), and I am not sure if it can still be considered Unique as other vehicles can use the Tesla network as well... but I have driven a few EVs and have found that in Teslas the integration of the route planning and the Tesla chargers was just so seamless (eg telling you chargers which were free, what your % battery would be, preconditioning the battery before arriving at the charger, and the payment experience itself) - so I would agree with you on that being a USP, if you also include the infotainment.
FYI CarPlay requires an IC on the board of the infotainment head unit. Its not just as simple as a software update if the car doesn't have the chip already.
Not for me. As a former driving instructor, I consider any car that requires basic adjustments such as heating to be done via a touch screen to be inherently dangerous. Let’s hope Fiskar don’t go down the Tesla route of getting rid of indicator stalks, too!!!
and what happens when the screen goes black? too many people go the electronic gizmos...imagine leaving your laptop outside in 100 degree weather in the summer and -20 in the winter.
Car manufacturers tends to "make research" and discontinuing all the useful, nearly essential, but rather costy stuff like glove box, frunk, physical buttons, splited rear seats etc. nowadays.
Love the car, and love the design, but this report was missing more info about the company and all the struggle to manufacture the Ocean. It's relevant and pertinent for the public to know because that doesn't take anything away from what a great car it is.
Unfortunately there is ko struggle to manufacture Ocean as it os manufactured by experienced Magna. There was problems to deliver to customers already manufactured vehicles, but it being sorted big way. Better to struggle to deliver than struggle to ramp up production like Lucid, Nio etc
They have models available by zip code or you can fill out your custom order estimated delivery is right on the site 3 months or less. Mine should be a couple of weeks hopefully
This is an interesting car well reviewed Ginny. I do find it interesting that Fisker have done some market research on what people actually use but I guess the may be different for different territories. I like that all the windows roll down (great to let those pesky wasps out in the summer days) but it adds cost and we don't have a rear wiper. The loss of a frunk however might be good to keep costs down but to have somewhere to put the charging cables without emptying the boot is a downside if the car is loaded with on a family holiday run or after the weekly shop. As for the loss of a glove box, OK I can understand that I don't use mine that often but I keep all my emergency gubbins in it, a pen, paper (for details of an unforeseen incident) and a small first aid kit and phone cables etc. I could live without an electric window in the tailgate and doggy windows to keep the frunk and glove box that require no power and are simple mouldings but that's just my view. Overall it looks like a great car though. Many thanks for sharing.
California mode is a nice party trick, but it means no rear wiper or washer! And yes it has a rear camera but no washer for that either. Same for front headlights, no washers. Built for California and not our filthy multi-season European weather and roads. Still love it though.
Glove box. Yes, we use one with our Buzz. It holds a tire pressure gauge, a pencil, an eraser, and a notebook, along with the vehicle registration and insurance papers. The notebook holds details about every trip including: code for day of week, date, stop time, start time, duration, stop km, start km, distance. Charging? That information is provided by our Easee charger, so I get a monthly update given to me and - at the end of December - an annual summary. Would I buy a Fisker Ocean? Theoretically, yes when Buzz reaches 10 years of age, but since I am 75, my wife and I have most likely bought our last vehicle. I think the Ocean would be appropriate for our children.
It depends where, unfortunately in Canada the entry level of the CX-30 is like 10000$ more than the Ocean Sport. I was very disappointed at Volvo for this. So the choice is obvious for me. With two kids, the CX-30 is way too small anyway
Wow that a lot of comments on a car that’s from a new player in town to most people. We all know that Henrik Fisker has a fantastic CV as a designer and that his first attempt at his own car did not go according to plan. This attempt is better thought out but so far has had a few teething problems. I believe that he will get over them and when you see the car in the flesh you release that he is on to something. I have put my money where my mouth is and placed an order and if I was in a position to invest in the company I also would. We need to look to new companies to invigorate the car sector and not just sit back and let the Chinese companies take over. The likes of BMW, Ford,Toyota etc who are like oil tankers and take too long to change direction. In the UK Jaguar developed the fantastic I-pace and then just let it wither on the vine instead of developing it. I hope Fisker is able to stay nimble and grow we need more like Henrik.
I think that’s missing the point; the point was that a 2500kg car with a 100kW+ battery and a 700km range and that achieves only 5.5km/kW is not a city car, not that it’s inherently a ‘bad’ car. It’s not about Henrik Fisker’s qualities or the fact that Fisker is a new kid on the block. Just that we don’t want our urban areas full of huge truck-like inefficient lumps whatever fuel they run on.
Hmm… so it does not have true 1-pedal driving, since regen can't bring it to a complete stop. Disappointing. The range is impressive. I'm glad it has some buttons and a binnacle, as Tesla goes overboard with its "minimalist" design. Too bad the vents can't be manually adjusted. No glove box? My wife wouldn't put up with that, as she's always got "stuff" in ours. And no frunk? We always use ours on roadtrips. I think a solar roof is more of a gimmick than anything. My car is never out in the sun long enough to make any difference. Besides, I "fuel" my EV with rooftop solar anyway. I think I'd be happier with an Ioniq 5, truth be told, despite its much lower range.
Glove box yes, under the seats. One pedal driving is coming through OTA update. There was a little error in the commentary, the solar roof will give 1500 miles of driving in a year (I live in California). Ionic 5 was too small for me being 6ft 3, I bang my head on the roof, in the Ocean I have no issues.
I have the 2024 Ioniq5 ultimate (Canadian)and i love it extremely much. I love the Hyundai EV so much we sold our rav4 and got a Kona 2024 ultimate as our secondary car... No Fisk no Tesla...we really found the best EV cars out there for the use we want
A nice looking car. I do hope Fisker makes a success this time round with their business. As for the glove box. My wife drives DS-3 electric, I understand people not using a glove box of that size. I drive an IONIQ5 that glove box is used all the time, great for storing iPads, phones, etc. Under the bonnet storage is where I keep charging cables and other car necessities, wheel, spanner’s etc. so what have Fisker got in the front of their car, not too many components I hope. The more components the more chance you have of maintenance issues.
For the UK market the Taco Tray should be the Kebab Platter. It is a large SUV, a type of car that the vast majority of people buying them do not need. TBH if you are buying an EV to help the environment then it is hypocritical to buy a large SUV when you do not really have a proper use case for it.
Although I know the car has a “taco” tray, it would have been nice to learn if it has cruise control or lane keep or a head up display. Similarly, can you charge your phone? Is there a USB port? Vehicle to load? Where is the charge port? Perhaps Fisker research has decided all these things are not required and they have gone the way of the glove box.
I have an Ocean ONE. Cruise control is working (but no adaptive yet, awaiting the Radar to be activated). No heads up display. Yes you can charge phone, double Qi chargers in front under screen. USB C ports in center console and rear passengers seat area. Yes vehicle to load is there already. Charge port is left hand side on front wing.
I really don’t understand why people need 0-62mph in 4 seconds… I mean… what do they do during the rest of a journey. It really does not make any sense at all.
Im in the motor trade driving transporter trailers and deliver these across the UK. In the past I’ve driven Tesla’s across the country and have no issue admitting I’m a Tesla fanboy. First impressions with the Fiskers I’ve delivered is that I was quite impressed. Not driven one properly but I’m quite impressed feel, looks etc. Would be interested on the actual range and what it’s like on the road……..
For all the cost cutting and removal of frunks and glove boxes, it's still not that cheap at cost. You're looking at well over £40k once you move away from the standard white paint and budget eco plastic fabric and add features that should be standard like rain sensor wipers, heated steering wheel and heated seats.
I drove this car for the first time yesterday. Fisker had a meet and greet close to me and I had the opportunity to really get a good feel for the car. The version that I tested had a price tag of approximately $73,000. It's a very nice car and has a lot of technology. This is the first iteration of the Ocean and I think they will continue to improve as time passes. There's a lot to like. But I wanted to be blown away and I wasn't. The first thing that crossed my mind was, well, this is a nice car but it's overpriced by about $25,000. I recognize that Fisker's peers such as Tesla and Rivian are even more expensive but I just couldn't justify the price. Since I'm in the market for a new SUV I also recently drove a new Grand Cherokee Limited which I could buy for $48,000 and it is better appointed, more comfortable and drives and handles better. I do hope Fisker survives and flourishes. I would love to see them put a dent in Tesla's market share.
I'm almost impressed. Will they ensure OTA updates don't `brick` the vehicle? Usually prefer my updates installed at the dealers, where any issues are theirs to solve. Have Fisker got many dealers in the UK? Seems like a lot of `coming soon` extras promised bu not delivered in a car costing THIS much? Are you adding-on `over the air updates` to your regular reviews as we need to see `how many` and `how often`? I don't have any problem at new installers in the industry but `promising` and `delivering` are facts that can only be proven - look at the shoody aftermarket at Tesla for example.
Very nice car,I've often wondered why manufacturers haven't used solar panels before now. Is the large screen that dominates the controlling of the car going to be the norm from now on ? Quite a few cars have that system.
It does seem like a lot of manufacturers are going that minimalist centre infotainment screen - the biggest reason is it saves money - think of all the individual button and switches it replaces! However I’m not convinced it adds convenience or is safe for adjustments when on the move. Some will argue virtually everything is set once and if needs to be altered can be done so through voice commands. I’ve chosen a car with a plethora of traditional switches and knobs - the GV60 and quite happy thank you. The biggest issue I see however is redundancy if that screen goes on some vehicles you won’t even be able to put the car in Drive (cough*- highland refresh of Tesla for example). With a more traditional setup - Head up display, driver binnacle, HVAC screen and infotainment screen and separate drive gear selector all separate there is some resilience/back-up/ redundancy! I can see my speed on the HUD or still change gear should the infotainment screen fail.
@@Antiguan_Dart The refresh Tesla Model 3 has back up buttons to select drive. reverse, park etc should the screen fail . That said I would prefer the stalk on the older model
Generally because the power generated from a panel small enough to fit on a car roof is minimal and hardly worth the effort. Fisker aren't stupid though, they know the solar panel will help their sales because people will convince themselves they need it. Bit like SUVs in general
I agree, if smaller wheels give better range and are more comfortable, why are manufacturers all forcing bigger wheels on us? It’s not because the bigger wheels are more expensive by any chance?
I recently looked at one of these in Westfield Shopping Centre, London and it’s a very nice car indeed. No Froot, turned me off straight away, as a Model Y driver I use the Froot more than we use the boot. We found overall storage space is very lacking compared to the Model Y. I really, really like the Fisker but there are some practical fundamentals that let it down.
Looks great and as others have said, it looks very like the Evoque or Discovery Sport? A few comparisons to the EX30 were made which are confusing as size wise, it's like comparing a with a Mini Countryman to a XC60? The FisKer Ocean is 4,774-4,775 mm L x 1,982 mm W x 1,631 mm H and the EX30 is 4,233 mm L x 1,837 mm W x 1,555 mm H, more or less 50cm shorter and a foot narrower? No wonder there's more interior and boot space in the Ocean. I've got to say some of the design features of the Ocean are great but just not sure if the company with all its troubles will be around longe term. I hope it is as its a refreshing change.
I had one of the first fisker sports preordered, but after being bit with suffering all the “teething” issues of the MG4 when it was brand new I’ve gone right off new cars ( it seams other new cars from VW, Hyundai have similar software issues ) I cancelled my order. I’ll see how they are doing in 2 years time and hopefully they will be quite abit cheaper on second hand market.
Great video .. just to clarify one point ... Fisker website says "When fully exposed to the sun, the Fisker Ocean Extreme's SolarSky can produce up to 1,500 clean, emissions-free miles per year"
My main concern is that it could be another Jaguar iPace which was also produced by Magna. I know Fisker designed it, but when you get a 3rd party to manufacture it, that’s when commitment to the long term can be a problem.
@@yitzele it was an amazing car when launched, ahead of its time, car of the year, but the JLR did not commit to its continued development / updating. I believe they lost empathy and direction because a 3rd party produced it. Now JLR have a new direction to manufacture luxury Jaguar and Range Rover cars themselves and yes use 3rd party components and technology but they will own it. I am looking forward to this.
@@antonymcneillis you're right in all, but I don't think there's a connection with the fact that it's produced by magna. Loads of cars are produced by them, and jlr independently developed the I pace in its entirety. It's got more to do with jlr as a company which is going through massive restructuring and is constantly on the brink
I agree Ginny. The more electric cars for sale and being driven the better, but only if you can afford one, which i think is still out of reach for most people in the UK right now
I test drove one in Glasgow on a terrible day raining stair rods - I was concerned about no rear wiper but the rear view mirror can be old style or a camera screen - in camera mode it stayed crystal clear even in heavy spray conditions but the back up camera badly needs a water jet to clear it after driving in those conditions. The aircon works on a very reduced mode in Earth mode and the car has no heated front screen - misting up was a problem until I moved into Fun mode when the screen cleared in seconds with a very powerful blast from the fan. Needs a heated front screen if you are going to drive in the most efficient mode. I’m used to driving air suspension Land Rover Defenders and Range Rovers - the ride on steel coil springs on 22” wheels with low profile tyres on potholed roads on the south side of Glasgow was as good as on air suspension. To me though too many standard items are still “to arrive by OTA update” or just missing from the specs. I doubt in Scotland that neither the California mode or the solar roof will get much heavy use………… for the time being I’ll stick with my 2023 Defender 90 but in 2 years time maybe Fisker will have sorted out the OTA update items. It is a lovely car to drive though and the quality feel of everything you touch was very high. I don’t have a frunk in my current EV and rarely need to dig out charging cables as I have a tethered home charger or use rapid fast chargers with tethered cables when out on the road so keeping the cables in the under boot floor box isn’t really a problem and my EV is a Mini Cooper S E where storage is at a premium.
Be interesting to see which of these many new brands remains .. No dealerships ?? How do service ??!! 1 , 2 year old value , prob half price .. Decent used EVs , seem good value , as long as have extended warrant ly
love it, like you said this is what the Land Rover Evoque should be in 2024 :) Fisker is on the right path. I hope that they make it and introduce more models here in the EU
I'd sooner have the frunk and save the environment with a smaller screen that doesn't have to needlessly rotate, and manual controls for all the common functions. That way I could turn the screen off.
issue with the California test is you were unable to see how front-biased this car is. during the test in Milton Keynes, it was losing traction during acceleration in any mode except the earth. Also there is a lot of pending updates and the amiable staff was clear, that there is no roadmap, as they don't want to overpromise. but: * ACC ? - OTA * Hill assist? - OTA * one pedal driving? - OTA * no regen driving? - OTA * keyless entry? - OTA Taller drivers may also have some issues with the driving position, as both armrests are very low, and the window line is very high.
what's the braked towing limit and what's cost of getting towbar fitted???? Can't see info on fisker site but do recall seeing towing limit of about 1100kg
Love the review. Thank you. I'm very interested in Fisker. We have a BYD Atto 3 here in Western Australia and very impressed with it but the Fisker could be our next EV if/when it arrives here. I'm sure it will at some stage.
Great looking car and I love the idea of the rotating screen. My Volvo XC40's portrait screen is sooo small to watch RU-vid on that I always wish I could rotate it to landscape while charging. The only thing I don't like about it is the logo's honestly. They look outdated and don't do the rest of the design justice.
Good looking but seems different to the prototype some how. Not a fan of the need to select driving mode and then select boost in order to get max power, prefer to let my right foot make the decision on how much power goes to the wheels, apart from the most powerful Plaid models, this is how Tesla do it. The other worry is the charging network, especially in the UK. Only a concern on road trips as most will charge from home, but still. Do we know how they're be looked after in the UK? Not seeing any Fisker dealerships. Price seems similar to Model Y which has sold like hot cakes in the UK such is the popularity of SUVs, although in many cases due to "want" not "need" :)
Why would you not include a frunk..? Its not difficult and its a bit of extra storage which is useful on road trips, especially given this cars rather poor boot capacity for its class. I use my frunk all the time for storing things that would make a mess of the boot, like hiking boots and other outdoor gear. This is supposed to be a utility vehicle after all. Real swing and a miss there.
Can we all please agree that the "physical" brakes should be referred to as "friction" brakes, to differentiate them properly from regen braking, which is also physical, but uses magnetism as its retarding factor? Thankyou.
I’d like to see Electrifying make a long U.K. road trip in mid winter, parking up outdoors each night in close to sub zero temperatures and see how driving range is affected. How much range will a car 'lose' overnight? Advertised EV ranges, alas can all be taken with a pinch of salt but it would be interesting to see how accurate the Fisker advertised range is.
so their research showed people don't need glove boxes and front trunk, but they do need to roll down the trunk window and those small corner windows? what group did you do your research on!? ...and if it was some crazy fun teenage group, how in the same time they don't need max acceleration more than 500 times?
I really like this. They've clearly put a lot of thought into it. To get an electric SUV of that size with excellent range and tech for £37k is really impressive. An electric Corsa can cost more than that!
I love how well thought out this car is. Finally an EV that doesn’t make you sit with your knees around your ears. This should sell well, the PEAR should do better as well.
Am I the only one who doesn't drive around with stuff in their boot? I'd much prefer a frunk for my cables and nothing else, than having to lift up a shelf to get at them :( That being said - I saw a Fisker in Glasgow the other day, and it looked great. The entry level price is surprisingly good too (albeit with a much lower range).
I was very disappointed when i saw it at the fully charged show. It is nice height but way too long for our roads. Hope the bench seat at the rear looks more premium. The price with extras makes it pricey and with big questions about longevity of the company I am not convinced. Really want them to do well as their intentions were great.
