I like this format where everyone gives their opinion on the topic that interests them the most, a bumper to bumper with all from donut would be interesting
100% agree with the knob situation, having a quality feeling piece of hardware to interact with will always feel infinitly better than just a touchscreen.
not to mention how much safer it is to be able to feel for a knob without taking your eyes off the road vs having to look down at a screen to click through three submenus to turn ur AC down three degrees
@@emery_orioni couldnt agree more with you. I was searching for a new car here in Brazil and i think its ridiculous how i couldnt find a single model in my budget with a less tech focused interior without having to go for the absolute bare bones versions. I guess i will have to buy an used car again lol
I miss when you guys used to upload every day. However, I definitely appreciate how insane the quality of your videos has gotten. Even if you only uploaded once a week, I'd still watch every video.
The rear 3/4 view of this car is absolutely stunning. Complete opposite of the last gen. Fender flares are so smoothly rounded, tri-tip exhaust stand out so nicely against the diffuser, and have a nice satin finish this time with the bigger pipe in the middle. And the rear wing is perfect. Just looks amazing from the rear and rear 3/4. I'm guessing 333 HP
@@johncarlofernandez2698 My complaint with the new one has to do with the base Civic styling. Only Type R specific complaint is the wing doesn’t match the rest of the car.
The Civic Type R look progressed the same way gaming laptops did. It went from flashy and plasticky to something more reserved but still shows off its ability. Just look at modern Razer laptops, they're now going for the more "mature and business-like" look and I feel like this is going a pretty similar way.
I hated the FK8 until I randomly bought one in a hungover stupor of irrational decision making, and then it turned out to be the best all around car I've ever owned and today I think they look great. It's a ridiculous car that owns it. I love when designers take chances and that car is always going to turn heads, it's a hardcore classic. This is so much less interesting to me. It looks like a better car all around, but I don't know if the character of a legend is there. Maybe I'm just older now.. all I see now is $1600 worth of tires that pick up nails and screws like bubble gum and last 10k miles if you don't drive it like you're supposed to and you get lucky with the location of all the flats you're gonna get lol. I had 8 flats in 10 months in my factory FK8 tires. I downgraded after that to be able to get to work on time. Get off my lawn!
Good analysis, pretty much every industry started going after that mature look in the last 5-10 years or so, newly built housing, every day appliances, and even power tools (newer tools are pretty much all electric and lightweight with a minimalistic design). The smooth simplistic and modern style is really favorable among our generation and it takes less time and effort to put together. Steve Jobs knew that long ago and made a simplistic phone with modern technology and that's why Apple is so successful today. the I phone was released in 2007, check out the best selling phone of 07 "Nokia 6500 classic". Worlds apart
I feel it more progressed in the same way millennials have into being a 40 year old dads that are still trying to look young. Because this looks like they stuck a wing and hood scoop onto a dad car. Definitely didn't nail that mature look as much as the Golf does, and looks a lot more boring the Elantra N and GRs.
When they showed the engine with the turbo integrated into the cylinder head, I thought of the 3S-GTE with the turbo mounted on the manifold. That was a built engine out the door. Honda modded their engine and tuned it for you, maintaining OEM HONDA reliability. Can't wait to find out what they do for the Integra Type S.
I miss the days when Hondas were so uniquely styled. Back in the 1980s they were so distinctive. I had a Prelude S2, S3 and S4, all were brilliant. The Honda City Turbo and Turbo2 were also brilliantly quirky and fast. the 1980s CRX and Integras were also fantastic to look at, drive and own. By comparison, this Civic type R is so "blah" in its styling. It just doesn't look that much different to all the other similarly sized modern cars. So disappointing 😞
right? when you look at it it just looks very basic. the red seats and red carpet is something I really do like, but Honda is just being too conservative with their design
I think it actually kinda fits the bill for honda. Cars today have so many bells and whistles standard (thanks to Kia and Hyundai), and Honda is giving you all of those in a racecar disguised as a grocery getter. Hondas are legendary "blah" cars that non-fans and haters love to disregard. But with a little bit of imagination and great engineering, Hondas become a totally different animal. That's the Type R spirit. taking a boring car and pushing it to the limit. This time around it also gets the practical side of Honda we know and love as well in the non-Type R models, and shows us a new side with the premium interior design. The previous type R was the first in a long time for the US, so it had to project itself. I feel as if it was specifically designed and targeted for the US. Similarly to how the FG2 and FK2 are most certainly designed for the Euro market. This one has JDM vibes. It's as chill as seeing an FD2 in Hiroshima traffic on a rainy summer day. In Japan, they just blended in with the rest of the cars. Nobody made a fuss about them, and yet you could still tell they were badass just sitting in stock form.
It's so cool to see how far this channel has come... I've been around since around a million subs and I can't believe your over 6.7 million at this point- that opens up a lot of doors. Can't wait to see what that brings, you guys grinded hard turning out quality videos and it paid off. Congrats ya'll!
The same reviews about the 2018 Accord was said about it's sound system, and it sounds good to me. These car makers don't always put much concern into a system that can be upgrade by aftermarket systems. Another thing, I'm glad they made it longer, bc i'm 6'3 and I like to be sure that tall ppl can fit in the back seat bc my son is tall also.
I can't help but feel like this car really looks like a Dodge Charger... especially the headlights and tail lights. Maybe some Kia Stinger vibes with the taillights too.
Yes Yes Yes. Was thinking the same. I don't also get why most of these reviewers don't like the previous generation. I liked it a lot. These new gen ones look like modern basic sedans
The only "fake vent" on the FK8 is the fog light shroud. The side vents bring in air for downforce, reducing drag, and also work with the hood scoop to siphon heat out of the engine bay all through the fenders while exiting out the rear of the front fenders. The brake ducts are underneath the fog lights and actually channel air to the brakes too. The FK8 also has the same "turbo mounted to collector integrated into the head" too, so that's also a moot point for "probably how it makes more power than any other CTR before."
I still like the old design just wish all those vents were real. Also really curious because the wheel base looks a lot different how much weight did they add and will that result in poor handling. Have they still got torque steer down. This is going to be awesome to compare the old to the new.
I love last gen. Best selling amongst millennials and lasted pretty long from '16-'21. I'd still take this one over a 2015 but it's definitely trying to be toned down for boomers.
@@StealthNinja4577 yeah and I guess I just don't dig that like make that the si and keep the type R focused. Chop some weight add some hrsprs and for crying out loud make it exciting the Gundam look was kind of a selling point to me. But the masses like what they like I guess.
What a beautiful piece of machinery. I love how it’s gone to a more humble appearance rather than screaming “I AM A CIVIC TYPE R” like the previous gen did. The interior is DROP DEAD GORGEOUS. The simplicity is just so satisfying. 10/10 would buy.
I love how whenever a company releases a new car they are always like "It's the fastest one yet!"...Like yeah that would be pretty bad if it was slower than the previous model lmao, good job I guess
As history has told us, regulations lead to much slower cars sometimes. Technology is there. Epa says otherwise and ignores tire pollution as that effects big businesses rather than the consumer.
@Xtal Toyota MR2, Mitsubishi Evo X, it´s much more common then one would think. 😅 Even the new integra has the SAME HP while being heavier then the old one, be it, much more torque due to forced induction, but not what we hoped we would get..
Not that Honda cares, but the interior and rear-half of the car are a great improvement. Personally, I prefer the front-end of the previous gen, still love the crazy look
They can't get the rear end right. The previous one was too busy, this new one is too bland and generic looking. There is nothing there that says "Honda" to me. That rear end could have a modern Kia badge on it and it would be equaly fitting.
@@mattmattmatt131313 Honda is going through a bit of a design slump. The only car they absolutely nailed is that Honda-e electric. It's not super my thing but the car is very balanced and has lots of distinctive features.
@@polymerizedrecords Oh yeah the Honda E is a great design. One area where they are really strong at the moment is interior design, both in the E and also in this new Civic.
I love having knobs over touch screen when it comes to HVAC controls and it seems alot of car companies don't understand this, I lole the user feed back of a knob vs touch screen that you have to dig into sub screens to get the air pointed where you want and to go from regular ac to max ac vs just putting a button for that.
I wanted a STi for the longest time. Huge in to the whole Evo vs STi war. 26 now and got a Genesis G70 3.3 because I matured and didn't want rally anymore. Still wanted speed, but needed practicality more.
I still prefer the look of the old one. I liked that it was angular and stood out compared to the regular Civic. It's funny that they mention it looks like a gun damage head since I like the look of those robots. It's a design that I enjoy. This one is way more subtle.
I really, really like the styling of this gen. I adore cars like the EF, EG and EK because they weren't overly aggressive, expensive or assuming but had the driving fun to back them up. That's more what this is. The rear's probably the weakest for me but it's not bad.
@@beanvan99 put a kill switch on the fuel pump and one on the starter like I did. Some may say it's extreme but I've been with mines for twenty two years so...
TBH I think this new one looks off. The hood has almost an overhang over the front which is weird, the rear quarter glass goes into a line which is weird, and finally this Civic *looks* big, and kinda is. It’s the size of an Accord from several years ago.
Great video guys, love the channel! The new Civic Type R looks like a banger, good looks, smart interior, actually slick heater controls and vents, but can we Honda please, please have the champion white wheels back, black wheels are so odd feeling now. 👍
I prefer this understated design way more. The last few type Rs looked like people with no taste slapping fake vents everywhere. This harkens back to the older cleaner type Rs which I like way more.
I bought a Civic EX-L this year after the transmission in my old car fried, it was interesting seeing whats different and what stayed the same. I was expecting the interior to be stripped way down and more barebones.
I honestly prefer the exterior styling of the previous generation. However, I love the new interior, especially how minimalistic the dash is. For the power output, I think it will be around 340-355hp.
the previous generation looked childish and gaudy imo. I appreciate the restraint of the new one; seems more like a canvas for any modifications you'd want to make.
Imagine being a dad having a 17year old kid and he like cars giving him the 2017 and buying the new one will be very funny the mature and fast and the childish and fun
@@marioelburro1492 the type R is holding value so well that, if interested in the new one and you can get it without a crazy dealer markup, trading the previous gen R would be a no-brainer. I do not have a previous gen... I have a 2011 Civic LX. Lol I'm very interested in getting a GR86 though, and outfitting it with a supercharger after the factory warranty expires. By then, I will have done other, smaller things to it and prepped it for forced induction.
3:43 side view gives me newer BMW sedan vibes, and from the back it looks like a Kia stinger. Front kinda looks like last year model of the accord with Acura headlights lol. Interior is probably the coolest out of this car
Looks like a Acura TLX 4 door wagon. Plus its a type r. R for racing. The comfyness of the seats, climate control button feel and radio/sound system isnt what people are looking for in a Type R.
Yes. I'm European, and I can't help but laugh every time I see the weird ass design of the 8th and 9th generation civic. Especially the 8th, it looks like a giant computer mouse, LOL. This one is the best design in LOOOONG time for sure.
Yeah this is a dumb take, this is the worse looking civic of them all. Looks like another generic Hyundai concept car. 8th gens were the best & still look up to par for today, 9th gens were the last really good looking civic’s.
Nolan, that cover on the intake is one of two things.. that little box is most likely a noise suppressor to keep the intake noise down. If it's electronically controlled it could have a baffle system that opens up wide at full throttle... OR.. it's something to chill the air after it being heated during compression.
Probably why a lot of the new gen cars look blank and not overly agressive unless if "the last agressive looking cars before we go electric" theory is true.
I had a 2000 civic SI. Brand new in sept 99. I lived just north of Denver CO. My buddy had a 97 Integra type R. Number 501 I believe. There were only 1500 of them sold in the US. We would go screaming through the canyons west of Boulder. The most fun I’ve ever had to date. I moved on and up in my older years now. I have a 2017 Cadillac ATS-V. It’s awesome. Way more powerful. I live in FL now. It’s fun. I would love to drive it in the canyons back home. But this has me feeling nostalgic. I think I might buy this one and take it up there. These civics were always made for the canyons. You can throw them around like carts.
I had a 19 fk8 type r for 2 years before having to sell it in a move, best car I ever had I can't even imagine any car that could replace it or give me as much joy and i've driven m cars and amgs. Best car ever
@@kelalkelal It has VTEC but only on the exhaust side if I'm not mistaken, just like the Civic SI. Obviously not the same motor but similar nonetheless.
Gotta say how the Donut media crew ALWAYS manages to make better videos. Every little detail makes it even better, thank you bois for making amazing content for yt.
i liked the sharp edges of the old civic thats why i liked it so much but its cool too see them experament like this and see what people like and also i think its going to make about 400 HP
Two friends (a set of brothers), one has the 2015 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo Final Edition. The younger one has a 2013 Honda Civic Si... the Civic is sooooo much more fun to drive. Not faster, not cooler looking, not at all as expensive. But again, it is leagues more fun to drive. You're absolutely right Civic get undue hate.
As a former Honda assembly line worker who absolutely destroyed his back for a company that doesn't give two shits about their employees, I hate the company. But the product is what it is, and they are fun to drive (as long as you're not tall and don't have permanent damage to your lower spine...).
@@JesseArt Did you retire? lol Ohio? Alabama? or Indiana Plant? They're different now, and realized the work force is dwindling since the boomers retired. Now they seem to treat their employees significantly better than any other place I've ever seen
I’m a Honda guy and I never loved the civic til now. I honestly love how the civic looks especially the type R. I’m 18 and I’m looking to get a new car and I’m definitely aiming to get the 23’ type r!
Just watched this live. It’s certainly not my favourite Civic but it’s so great. Can’t wait to see these things at track days and car meets and I especially can’t wait to see the wonderful builds that enthusiasts do with these beasts. Honda has outdone themselves once again. Cheers to another generation of the iconic Civic Type R!
the thing that makes me like the new design so much is how it is informed by simplicity and function. I've seen some people argue that a Type-R should always be more agressive but i have to disagree since this design language isn't new to the R badge. it is very reminiscent of the EK9 (my favorite) and i'm all in for it.
Ya all kidding me, wider fenders, unique hood and bumpers, 265 wide tyres and that's subdued and not unique? Perhaps the big H has been too successful in toning it down🤣!
Car’s really pretty, but is enormous for what it is. I understand that modern regulations make it difficult to produce a lightweight/short wheelbase little monster but damn this thing is a whole family hauler. For a full size sedan I’d much rather a 3series but I might be biased🤷♂️
I absolutely love this thing. Looks miles better than the boy racer vibe of the old one, has the manual, and I think it has 320-330 HP. If only Subaru brought back the STI.
I mean what does the new wrx not have that an sti does besides badging and a wing? Does it not have lsd, a 6 speed, and around 300hp? I guess its about 30 short but what more could it need to be an STI?
@@Owen-zm6sq I'd expect the STI to have 320-330 HP, more than the 271 HP WRX. Also, the new WRX has all this but is it really an actual WRX without the STI?
@@kb0x personally id pick an sti over wrx any year just for the LSD but im not a big fan of the no true scotsman stuff. For some wrx trim is just fine, and here they're combining both into the same car. Now aesthetics are probably the new WRX biggest issue.
@@Owen-zm6sq err IG they are combining both into the WRX and I can see why some people don't want the STI, but the STI was integral to Subaru's character. Aesthetics tho... err that is a whole different story.
Yooooo!!!! Droppin' TesseracT in the video! Amazing metal band from the UK. So much more respect for this channel. I sent the link over to the drummer! Thanks for repping a fantastic group 🤗
I'm going to be really tempted to trade in my 19 Si for one of these while I still have the resale in the car. My wife picked up a 22 hatch touring 6 speed and it's an amazing car.
@@ShaiyanHossain yeah, our sales rep said as soon as she ordered hers in a 6 speed they stopped offering them, and it took months to come in... she probably has one of the only manual touring hatches in the country... and it's a lease lol
In a world where any car must be electric,a hybrid, a crossover, only with automatic transmission, with tons of unnecesary stuff and with the general price being more expensive I'm glad to see brands like Honda to deliver cars that maybe are not so affordable but still delivers fun
@@StealthNinja4577 Honestly I'm open to new ways of fuel but with the ongoing EV problems like charging times and battery range, the price of an hybrid, the nonsense of a crossover, the trend to install a screen to something that doesn't need it and all the concern of the actual enviromental situation (like the prohibition of selling cars based on fossil fuels) makes me to just buy an old car and modify it to make it fun while trying to save fuel. Now, I believe there's the technology to make cars more reliable with fuel economy and power like Freevalve or the hybrid engines in F1 so, why we cannot still have access to it while just the rich people can still buy cars with the best options?
@@PPablinho hey I'm with you man. If a dude wants an ev, a Harley, hydrogen car, an old hippie wagon, a German Panzer IV main battle tank... go for it more power to ya. If a dude wants to build charging stations everywhere and bought the land and paid all the taxes and fees I don't care. But no we set up these rules for the peons and they're the ones that pay for us to not follow them.
@@PPablinho honestly it's all a huge scam just gotta follow the money. The same people that tell you that the end is nigh... again are gonna make money off the alternative or want to save money on something cause they're cheapskates. Doesn't matter if you're a scientist, a politician, a ceo every human is capable of being a scumbag.
Love my 2014 si coupe in clear coat white. It’s fun to drive and has an actual engine that is big enough to pull without a turbo. I’ll be getting a type r soon but you can get a 5.0 mustang and still have a couple of G’s left for aftermarket parts.
Wow I really want to get my hands on this Type R far more than the other, it would be a very big step up from my 2008 Honda Civic. Perhaps my new obtainable dream car. (Edit) Also much happier with the interior and that they seemed to figure out what should be knobs and what shouldn't.
I work at Honda Dealership as window tinter and these cars are so nice...I love when one comes in, jist tinted 2 for showroom. Tinting them makes them look so clean and there fun and easy
I actually love this design! It looks freakin awesome. I can tell Honda engineered and designed this generation after analyzing and reviewing every single piece of data from the previous generation to refine and restructure into an even better model then ever. This is why I love Honda. They work so hard to deliver what we WANT and focus on constantly improving. I can see the power of dreams is truly living on with this next generation Type-R and I now want this more then ever! Keep on keeping Honda and keep on keeping on Donut! Love to see it! 💪🏼💪🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Love the look of the FK8. This just looks soft to me. It also looks like a boat. May as well be the Accord Type R. And 40k for a FWD Honda that will be marked up to 60k (or more given the market) is just not the value it should be. The dealers here in the states will kill the whole point of this car.
This is so true, the look is growing on me slightly, but it just doesn't seem special enough. 60k? Well all I can say is come the fall in 2023, If I have a big enough down payment to finance, I'll just try my best to get a base model RS3 at 60k msrp. I will literally go dealer to dealer and try my best to place an order at msrp + tax and tags. Just not into paying over sticker at all.
MORE VIDEOS LIKE THESE!!!! Felt like I was checking out a new car with the homies. Can't tell if I really like the type R, how great this review was, or both
I was just talking with my dad about the design (he has an FK8) and personally, he feels like they toned it back a bit too much, but wants to know how the airflow management works for this one. Personally, my thoughts on it are I honestly can't decide between this one and the FK8. They're both just that good.
The FK8 looks like they let a 12 year old fast and furious fan design it. The design of this is way nicer. The airflow will work fine, they literally explained some of the aero elements in the video.
I have an 2019 FK8 myself, and it's a hard decision. I like the edgy looks of the FK8, that's what makes it special. The new variant is trying to fit in with every other car today, and imo they're quite boring. I may wait a year or so and get the new model. We'll see!
This is more mature, FK8 are good for some people, but IMO its kinda edgy with that over aggressive looks and those fake vents everywhere. Looks like those body kits option from NFS Underground 2 😅
I honestly was happier to see James' reaction to the new Civic Type R then Nolan's review on it. James was in a true state of shock. Last time that I saw him happy like that, was when he drove the 2018 Civic Type R. I loved the new Civic Type R too, BTW. Nice video!
By the old Type R, you mean the 2017 one? Because they've been making civic Type-Rs since the 1990s. I did not like the 2017 model because it looked like it was trying far too hard to look fast, very much a 19 year old boys car.
I really really like the design of the new Civic. Looks like they brought back all the retro from old Civics along with keeping it fresh and up-to date. Far better than the older Civic in my humble opinion. Looks extremely minimalist and I love it. Haven’t finished watching the video but hopefully the rest of the car’s as good as the looks!
I like the 2017 civic a bit more. It stood out and was unique and I couldn’t tell what inspired them for the 2017 model. The new one looks like an accord with a Kia stinger rear. Doesn’t stand out and scream type R to me.
@@ghostpro1293 It went from flamboyant to plain. Which, in my opinion, is a mistake. The new Type Rs will just vanish in traffic. The FK8 was clearly visible from a mile away.
I just realized Donut has 6 mill subscribers!!!!!!!!!!!. I have not been online for a while but I when I subbed you had 1 mill, you guys have grown so fast and you deserve it. GG
This is the 1st new Honda that I genuinely like this looks so good👌🏾. The previous type of iteration was cool but it was ugly at the same time. And don't even get me started on the new integra. Happy on the direction Honda is taking. Also I think it's going to make 365HP
They kept the FWD because it's part of the type-R trademark... and on those tires, I think 365hp is the most you can push it without spinning them to death. Some torque regulating tech for 1st and maybe even 2nd gear, that allows for a good launch.
I think they need to ditch the whole FWD stuff. Once you crest the 300 HP level, you really need to either shift to RWD or AWD. I'm guessing the price tag for this will be mid-to-high 30K (probably out the door with taxes at 40K). So the demo that could afford this can't. So just do away with the lame FWD. That way adults in their 30's would actually want to buy it. PS I would argue the Corvette going mid-engine was much more sacrilege than Honda taking making this RWD. However, it was necessary to stay competitive.
@@tacticalbutler1556 Agree, if we're talking performance. But if Honda was talking pure performance, we would be seeing a DCT/10spd-auto option. Honda stayed close to the Type-R roots and that was the north star, even if it meant not being able to put 400hp down, and settling for the most those 265 tires can handle. The question is how much?
@@karmahunden Agree. I mean, the reviews of the Ford Focus ST when it was released were all positive in spite of it having so much power for a FWD car. But it also came at a much lower price tag. I guess only time will tell, but I think the market and tech have changed so radically over the past 25 years that this iteration of the Type R will have to be reimaged in the coming years.
I love my 2021 type r. I do like the exterior look of this one however, not a fan of the interior compared to my 2021. I can't imagine this one pushing much more power. Gonna guess right around 318-326 hp. I am curious to see how this one handles the track compared to the previous type r
@@lamydora457 You'll see most factory FWD cars don't go much over 300hp. Too much wheel spin. There are plenty of FK8s with 450hp+ but they spin alot in 1st-3rd.
11th gens in general look a million times better than the 10th gens. I always hated the 10th gen styling. I own a 9th gen currently, and I'd love to get myself into this new R
